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Horus V
The Destined
Drunken Hyena Association
86
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:29:00 -
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Another patch and still no jb :(
V |
Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD
Shadow Cartel
32
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:32:00 -
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+1 |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5372
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:53:00 -
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CCP RealX wrote:Hi, I want to thank you all for taking time to give this matter you attention. We (meaning the CCP sound department) are monitoring this thread closely and take all opinions into consideration. I hope you don't think we made this decision lightly. First, some back story. As many of you know that used the jukebox it was quite buggy and we got a lot of negative feedback regarding its use, it didn't measure up to other media players, it didn't support this or that codec etc. The jukebox works as a plugin to our audio engine (Audio Kinetics WWise) and was based on a now deprecated Microsoft MP3 decoder that was used as an example on how to build plugins for the WWise engine. As mentioned in the blog these were the biggest issues that factored into the removal the jukebox. We believe we made the right decision but that is for EVE's community to decide. If we however made the wrong decision and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. And I ask you all to weigh that into your thoughts on the matter. The jukebox needs a lot of love, and if we will give it all the love that it needs it will take development time away from game-play related features. If you decide that there is more value for you in the jukebox than there is in new features we will shift our focus back to the jukebox. Regards, RealX
Bolded some very important bits...
I vote no on the jukebox. There are hundreds of more important spaceship-related things to work on in this spaceship game. There are also hundreds of alternatives to play music.
Why is this even a thing?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Nisanthro
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
3
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:29:00 -
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Signed!
Please bring the jukebox back! |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1863
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Posted - 2014.10.10 22:22:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:CCP RealX wrote:If we however made the wrong decision and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. And I ask you all to weigh that into your thoughts on the matter. The jukebox needs a lot of love, and if we will give it all the love that it needs it will take development time away from game-play related features. If you decide that there is more value for you in the jukebox than there is in new features we will shift our focus back to the jukebox. I vote no on the jukebox. There are hundreds of more important spaceship-related things to work on in this spaceship game. There are also hundreds of alternatives to play music.
I vote yes on the jukebox. Tiericide is in its final stages and there are a few other major concerns to look at, and the lack of a jukebox and the current state of in-game music is one of them. This might not be the most pressing concern just yet, but I think the time is fast approaching when the developers will be able to start focusing on side projects.
I'd rather have a jukebox first before we delve into new features that are going to introduce new balance issues. Lets get everything squared away first.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
"What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk |
Horus V
The Destined
Drunken Hyena Association
88
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Posted - 2014.10.12 14:47:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:War Kitten wrote:CCP RealX wrote:If we however made the wrong decision and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. And I ask you all to weigh that into your thoughts on the matter. The jukebox needs a lot of love, and if we will give it all the love that it needs it will take development time away from game-play related features. If you decide that there is more value for you in the jukebox than there is in new features we will shift our focus back to the jukebox. I vote no on the jukebox. There are hundreds of more important spaceship-related things to work on in this spaceship game. There are also hundreds of alternatives to play music. I vote yes on the jukebox. Tiericide is in its final stages and there are a few other major concerns to look at, and the lack of a jukebox and the current state of in-game music is one of them. This might not be the most pressing concern just yet, but I think the time is fast approaching when the developers will be able to start focusing on side projects. I'd rather have a jukebox first before we delve into new features that are going to introduce new balance issues. Lets get everything squared away first.
I also think that music in this game is very important matter. Plus I still don't understand what was wrong with the old JB. It was in perfect condition.
The fact that it was part of the game any music I added was giving me the feel like its from actual game and I could then change it any time I wanted to make adjustments when the game action/situations actually changed. Just like in movies. I believe many people used it exactly the same. How difficult is to understand that we play the game for fun and when we have more power given to us we actually can make this entertainment more meaningful to us because we are all different people.
Using other tools or media players does not make sense because the game has to be minimised in order to change tracks braking immersion in the same time. If CCP think this is not important then why do we have web browser in game??? Its just another "non game-play related feature" yes or no?
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Zylithi
Immortalis Fratres Vacui
Legio immortales CXCI
39
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Posted - 2014.10.15 00:41:00 -
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Signed! |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1866
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Posted - 2014.10.17 08:59:00 -
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Horus V wrote:Plus I still don't understand what was wrong with the old JB. It was in perfect condition.
Code conflict. It couldn't be left as-is with the coming updates or it would have become bugged and/or ceased functioning. It had to be updated/rewritten in order to continue functioning as it always had.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
"What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk |
MsArj
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.10.17 09:01:00 -
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+1 |
Eric Shang
Living Asylum
203
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Posted - 2014.10.17 10:43:35 -
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Never used it but it sounds cool. Bring it back
+1
I fly my ships from a Asylum
My Pirate Journey:
http://ericshangthepirate.wordpress.com/
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Nadja Dobrovodsky
Fornax Chemica
Zaibatsu Mercantile
2
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Posted - 2015.01.04 19:19:40 -
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+1 from me, I just came back and I couldnt find that option like WTF. bringing it back will not bring unfair advantage to anyone its a damn control that we PAY. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
406
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Posted - 2015.01.04 19:44:03 -
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have there been any other dev posts besides the one about moving the thread? |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
1009
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Posted - 2015.01.04 21:37:59 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:have there been any other dev posts besides the one about moving the thread?
Yes one about monitoring this thread closely. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2334384#post2334384
One about removing a Rant. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2344604#post2344604
And that last one was back in 2012. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
408
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Posted - 2015.01.04 21:51:11 -
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ah well glad to see how close they have been watching it these last two years....
even if it was "too buggy" they could at least put music in the game outside HS
that BS about how the current music works to add "immersion" to the system you are in only works the first few minutes the first time you enter then it just gets dull |
Endecroix
Royal Reidquat Airforce
14
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Posted - 2015.01.05 14:46:49 -
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Signed. I would like the music looked at. Eve's music is some of the most atmospheric in any game. To have the atmosphere lessened due to repetitiveness seems counter-productive. A game immerses you with graphics (which we have improved), gameplay (which we are working on) and audio (which took a step backwards).
I fail to see why one of the most immediately apparent aspects to immersion is now only available though accessing a 3rd party site. That in itself seems strange so I would like CCP to take a good look at their decision here as I am not sure it was necessarily a good one. I like the idea of themes across regions to tell you where you are but the fact remains what we have is just recycling of the same old tunes and it's got rather stale. |
Niewidka
Zabijaki i Pijaki
YARRR and CO
6
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Posted - 2015.01.08 12:14:37 -
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Bring IT Back |
Mornak
Exotic Dancers Union
SONS of BANE
31
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Posted - 2015.01.08 13:33:33 -
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CCP RealX wrote:... and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. ...
the jukebox is a nice to have... but not more than that.
imho there's more important/game-relevant stuff that needs to be done than this... -1 |
Samchitto Ormand
Serenity Collective
0
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Posted - 2015.01.09 12:26:30 -
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+1
would like to see it back  |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2200
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Posted - 2015.01.10 11:37:47 -
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Mornak wrote:CCP RealX wrote:... and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. ...
the jukebox is a nice to have... but not more than that. imho there's more important/game-relevant stuff that needs to be done than this... -1
It's just a .mp3 player. I don't see that its addition to the game would cost much in terms of new features. I'm ready to pay the price.
T3 Strategic Shuttle | T3 Flexible Battleship
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Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.01.17 08:21:07 -
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I'm going to go ahead and sign this because I can. I detest the dynamic music format, largely due to my overall low opinion of the 'actiony' tracks that play whenever I activate an acceleration gate. I just want the functionality of the old jukebox back -- if people want to use the new system, leave them to it! Some kind of toggle button would satisfy all parties, I'd wager. |
Antera Deninard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.15 14:33:19 -
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So are we getting it back? |
Suede
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2015.03.15 15:26:31 -
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Provence Tristram wrote:I'm going to go ahead and sign this because I can. I detest the dynamic music format, largely due to my overall low opinion of the 'actiony' tracks that play whenever I activate an acceleration gate. I just want the functionality of the old jukebox back -- if people want to use the new system, leave them to it! Some kind of toggle button would satisfy all parties, I'd wager.
you be lucky for CCP to even read the post
they have more stuff to fix or update to bring back an old thing that got removed
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Koebmand
Silverflames
32
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Posted - 2015.03.18 01:10:02 -
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Yes, bring back Jukebox. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
916
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Posted - 2015.03.18 07:42:06 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Mornak wrote:CCP RealX wrote:... and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. ...
the jukebox is a nice to have... but not more than that. imho there's more important/game-relevant stuff that needs to be done than this... -1 It's just a .mp3 player. I don't see that its addition to the game would cost much in terms of new features. I'm ready to pay the price.
not to mention with all the QOL things CCP seems to be pushing this would be a big one and just an over all gift to the player base particularly the vets who have been playing long enough to remember using it
Fuel block colors? Missiles for Caldari T3?
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Sleightz
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
15
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Posted - 2015.04.23 21:43:34 -
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Whatever happens with this I hope we eventually get a major overhall on the current state of music in EVE.
Detailed rant here: http://www.tricksofthetrades.net/2015/04/23/eve-has-sound/
Twitter | www.tricksofthetrades.net
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Iain Cariaba
1307
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Posted - 2015.04.23 22:19:34 -
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CCP really shouldn't dump anymore time or money into the music of EvE. Regardless of how much effort they put into the soundtrack, unless they continually funnel more and more into it, constantly releasing new tracks, it'll get old, and once again it'll be muted for outside music players.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
763
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Posted - 2015.04.23 22:26:25 -
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Bring back the jukebox, I bet many new players dont even know eve has a soundtrack besides that noise CCP call immersive.
RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE
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Finnfurian
IYAOYAS INC
0
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Posted - 2015.05.23 12:37:29 -
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Bring it back!  |
Velarra
381
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Posted - 2015.05.24 05:22:14 -
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One way to re-enable the jukebox functionality:
Gather up the eve music files from sound cloud, turn them into videos with the music with a video editor. Add visuals or leave it blank.Encode them for use on the CQ screen and deposit them into the CQ Screen video directory. Enter CQ.
You now have all of the eve music tracks with visuals of your choice, when you log into stations & enter CQ.
Note: You can do this with other video content of your choice too.
The only serious issue is you won't have the music while flying in space, nor the ability to skip tracks easily, without reordering them. |
g0nz028
25 Steal Industries
1
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:12:08 -
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Supporting this! |
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