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pussnheels The Fiction Factory 769	Posted - 2012.12.10 08:38:00 - [121] - Quote Midnight Pheonix wrote: Didn't you get the memo? Null-sec power bloc's all blued each other for the holidays and are spending the time killing red crosses to RMT enough isk to buy christmas presents. i smell alot of jealousy on this one, absolute ignorance to the OP , remember 2 things , first less than 20 % of all players are actually living in nullsec , second nullsec is huge and very spread out , with activity centered around the main alliance/ corp hubs; plus the use of jumpbridges makes null sec look rathezr empty I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Kurt Saken State War Academy Caldari State 19	Posted - 2012.12.10 09:27:00 - [122] - Quote My reasons to leave a null corp were the excessive number of rules you have to follow, but of course i know this depends on the corp, so i don't blame null. I don't like to follow orders, and more important: i don't like mining, general carebear operations or station hugging. Now i play EvE as i want.
TheLegion Vanguard Frontiers Intrepid Crossing 2	Posted - 2012.12.10 10:48:00 - [123] - Quote Malcanis wrote: TheLegion wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Commander Ted wrote: So lets all move to null and have lots of good small gang fights and have fun? Join -A- in Stain, I hear they will ~wolfpax~ there after they get owned out of their current sov. Or you can join goons and instantly reduce your IQ by 100 :) Says the IRC member Could easily say the same of "the iniative" which certainly has a ring of irony.
Wo nko University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:02:00 - [124] - Quote why is null empty? - titan bridging - jump bridges - jump freighters - beef'd up ratting systems - no new interest in 0.0
Lilan Kahn The Littlest Hobos En Garde 48	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:08:00 - [125] - Quote main reason is super coalitions that killed of lots of small alliances for lulz to claim marginal space and then promptly dosnt use it other than for epeen
psycho freak Snuff Box 50	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:13:00 - [126] - Quote null sec is a **** hole for sheep and they masters who fight over moons you get the odd pvp corp in npc 0.0 would you fight for someone els to get space ritch of your back ? i wouldnt left null years ago and never looked back
TheLegion Vanguard Frontiers Intrepid Crossing 5	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:16:00 - [127] - Quote Lilan Kahn wrote: main reason is super coalitions that killed of lots of small alliances for lulz to claim marginal space and then promptly dosnt use it other than for epeen that's basically the jest of it. It's funny because when those super coalitions were founded they were all about the straight up fight, but once they got space their ego exploded. I'm looking forward to the day that a mechanic is changed that will break down these coalitions. Back in the day it used to be alliance vs alliance. Now it's alliance vs alliance,alliance,alliance,alliance, etc.
pussnheels The Fiction Factory 772	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:20:00 - [128] - Quote March rabbit wrote: Commander Ted wrote: Did a 50 jump roam in my caracal and found absolutely 0 people going between gates. Jumped into a busy bottleneck constellation full of ratters and died as expected. Even then though the busiest systems in null have only 60 guys docked and active according to the map. Whats going on? Aren't their people roaming around looking for fights? half a year ago there was regions Delve and Querious. Red Alliance moved there after leaving its home. Many small/medium alliances lived in those regions. And started fun war with many small engagements and roams. It was really fun and 0.0 was alive. Then came Delve2012 and some big NAP coalition stomped all dwelleres of Delve and Querious. Got them out and settled these regions by TEST bots. And now all you can find there is empty systems and bored pirates trying to find someone to shoot. And this is very common story you obvious not been back yet or still feel hurt, atleast i know i am not a bot I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 593	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:22:00 - [129] - Quote TheLegion wrote: Their [GOONS] end game obviously is to zoom around space blue to everyone wearing pink thongs and rainbow colored t-shirts that say "best friends for life!" Anyone who actually has ever interacted with Goonswarm understand why the idea of them doing anything in pink thongs is disgusting. Also the last person to be commenting on Null Sec issues is the guy who's a a member of an Alliance that only keeps it's space because it's so worthless no-one else wants to invade it and IRC can be trusted to form up and welp their terrible fit ships every time you go into their space. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 659	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:24:00 - [130] - Quote TheLegion wrote: I'm looking forward to the day that a mechanic is changed that will break down these coalitions. Back in the day it used to be alliance vs alliance. Back in what day? The days of the old NC (which was bigger than any current coalition)? The GBC? The RedSwarm Federation? The LV-led Southern Coalition? Coalitions aren't the problem. The problem is a really ugly combination of a sov system that puts way too much emphasis on numbers at a single moment (the dreaded final timer) in combination with the general worthlessness of holding sov is the problem. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Eight Two Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:25:00 - [131] - Quote While we're at it, back in the day people used to travel instead of sitting at a Titan bridge all day. That was back when the universe was still black and white. Then came handholding and easymode so the bears could roam freely and harvest al dat goo. There's a reason after all why people call 00 more safe than highsec in a lot of aspects. There's nothing really that nullsec does better than WH or lowsec these days.
Kaylyis No One Loves You Inc. LockJaw Inc. 48	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:29:00 - [132] - Quote If you want to find people in null set your map filters to show active cyno generators, pick an alliance you want to **** with and see which of their systems are along the pretty blue cyno/jump bridge systems. i imagine youll find someone really quick.
Eight Two Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:29:00 - [133] - Quote Snow Axe wrote: Back in what day? The days of the old NC (which was bigger than any current coalition)? The GBC? The RedSwarm Federation? The LV-led Southern Coalition? Coalitions aren't the problem. The problem is a really ugly combination of a sov system that puts way too much emphasis on numbers at a single moment (the dreaded final timer) in combination with the general worthlessness of holding sov is the problem. Sorry for possible doublepost here but this and the general risk adverse attitude of the coalitions in question. People ran from fights back in the day too but it was nowhere near what it's like today. People actually preferd sh*t hitting the fan over looking at the fans in the caldari ship hangar.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 659	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:35:00 - [134] - Quote Eight Two wrote: Sorry for possible doublepost here but this and the general risk adverse attitude of the coalitions in question. People ran from fights back in the day too but it was nowhere near what it's like today. People actually preferd sh*t hitting the fan over looking at the fans in the caldari ship hangar. That's what I'm saying - the space simply isn't worth really fighting for anymore. That's why alliances either give up immediately when their space is under actual threat (Raiden in Tenal, Nulli in Delve) or they give up the moments the fights themselves aren't fun (Dotbros in Tribute/Vale). There was a point when, if things got tough, you'd call in allies, try to make new friends, actually do ~things~ to save your home because you felt it had value and you wanted to keep it. Those days are gone, and a large part of that is due to you realizing your home has no value anymore. That needs to change big time, and in a way that gives any alliance holding sov in any space a fighting chance, not the current "no tech? lol" system. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
TheLegion Vanguard Frontiers Intrepid Crossing 5	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:42:00 - [135] - Quote Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: TheLegion wrote: Their [GOONS] end game obviously is to zoom around space blue to everyone wearing pink thongs and rainbow colored t-shirts that say "best friends for life!" Anyone who actually has ever interacted with Goonswarm understand why the idea of them doing anything in pink thongs is disgusting. Also the last person to be commenting on Null Sec issues is the guy who's a a member of an Alliance that only keeps it's space because it's so worthless no-one else wants to invade it and IRC can be trusted to form up and welp their terrible fit ships every time you go into their space. Atleast IRC has big enough balls to not go along with the fashion trend and want to be blue to every single alliance/corp/person/asteroid belt in the game. We form up and we fight, even out numbered and still fight for an area that has 0 tech moons or cobalt. You have to hide behind the facade of a massive coalition to do anything, if your alliance went toe to toe vs another out right, you'd get curb stomped. That's why yall batphone every single person in the coalition if a person outnumbers you even by 1 pilot so you can bring in double to 10 times the number. So take your meaningless epeen bs and stick right up where the sun don't shine and grow a pair. Until then, you are just apart of the blue ballin masses fartin about the space making comments about nullsec when you yourself don't do jack crap for it.
psycho freak Snuff Box 52	Posted - 2012.12.10 11:46:00 - [136] - Quote make all null sec npc space tbh you nly fight over moons realy no jumpbridges and beeing able to keep your stuff safe in npc station might actualy encorage newer corps allainces to go there but i think the null secers would cry if this happens as 0.0 wouldnt be the safe haven behind sea of blues it is today they cry over afk cloakers imajine the teairs if reds docked in they npc station with them most 0.0 entertys are guttles blob fests who wont fight unless they friends /friends friends/mom and dad/ cousin herbat and ant may are there to back them up if npc space then gurrilla warfare would play a major roles in o.o way of life null sec is the way it is becouse the ppl who live there have made it this way also 90% the systems are worth sh*t
Long John Silver Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 45	Posted - 2012.12.10 12:03:00 - [137] - Quote Darvaleth Sigma wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Two words: "Dynamic sec status". Your grasp of mathematics is astounding. Please, share more of your brilliant genius with us. The OP is technically correct, since "sec" is an abbreviation, not a word. Long John Silver \| Pirate Alt-áand Forum Troll.
Eight Two Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.12.10 12:18:00 - [138] - Quote Snow Axe wrote: Eight Two wrote: Sorry for possible doublepost here but this and the general risk adverse attitude of the coalitions in question. People ran from fights back in the day too but it was nowhere near what it's like today. People actually preferd sh*t hitting the fan over looking at the fans in the caldari ship hangar. That's what I'm saying - the space simply isn't worth really fighting for anymore. That's why alliances either give up immediately when their space is under actual threat (Raiden in Tenal, Nulli in Delve) or they give up the moments the fights themselves aren't fun (Dotbros in Tribute/Vale). There was a point when, if things got tough, you'd call in allies, try to make new friends, actually do ~things~ to save your home because you felt it had value and you wanted to keep it. Those days are gone, and a large part of that is due to you realizing your home has no value anymore. That needs to change big time, and in a way that gives any alliance holding sov in any space a fighting chance, not the current "no tech? lol" system. I am starting to believe there is a little rest of reason left with the Goons. A thousand times this.
Iceni Angel Constellation 68	Posted - 2012.12.10 12:27:00 - [139] - Quote Yes there was a much higher % of players mooching about in null before sov mechanics, bubbles and jump freighters were introduced into the game. Most anyone and everyone used to run the pipes from time to time because the opportunities (mining, ratting and a target-rich environment) were more than enough to tempt most people in, and getting your proceeds back out into empire space in a bog standard indy whilst flying solo was something anyone could achieve, with a bit of skill, a dose of good luck and a steady hand when the adrenaline kicked in. Ahhh the good old days.... of course the game has improved a hell of a lot since then, but in the process it has lost much of the raw-ness and become more complex and sophisticated, which does not suit everyone.
Eight Two Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.12.10 12:35:00 - [140] - Quote Iceni wrote: Ahhh the good old days.... of course the game has improved a hell of a lot since then, but in the process it has lost much of the raw-ness and become more complex and sophisticated, which does not suit everyone. Well to be honest 00 was never made to suit everyone in the first place, however a lot of the old freedom was sacrificed for rushing mechanics into a decently working system and then just leaving them to rott and gather dust. A proper, dynamic and hard to manage and maintain SOV mechanic, resources worth fighting over in all constellations and all that without the ability to bridge a complete navy across the galaxy could bring all that back. Easily that is. Don't get me wrong, it's not like it was all roses and unicorns back then out there but there was a lot more content worth going and fighting for than there is nowadays.
octahexx Charante Morior Invictus. Ethereal Dawn 25	Posted - 2012.12.10 12:37:00 - [141] - Quote why null is empty? have ever stepped intoa bus and all the seats are taken except one,problem is its a 1 metric ton fat guy with pizza all over his shirt that has holes in it with half his gut sticking out on the other seat and he is so fat he actually takes up 1 1/2 seats. now...you have a choice are you gonna try and cram youself into that half seat and get his elbow in the back and generally feel super akward and silly? Or just stand up the entire ride? The fat guy is HBC and Goons. The half seat is the crappy space you can take in null. fakeedit: no problem is there no leaders to get behind to form a counterblock, some space is also useless and you dont do effort of building stations just because its so fun. But the true answer is because there is less people in null,because the *** guy took the seat and nobody wants to ride the bus. Some people say they need to nerf the bus to solve the problem like removing internal lights and windows and maybe som seats and tun off the heating. Yeah theat should work.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5439	Posted - 2012.12.10 14:02:00 - [142] - Quote TheLegion wrote: Malcanis wrote: TheLegion wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Commander Ted wrote: So lets all move to null and have lots of good small gang fights and have fun? Join -A- in Stain, I hear they will ~wolfpax~ there after they get owned out of their current sov. Or you can join goons and instantly reduce your IQ by 100 :) Says the IRC member Could easily say the same of "the iniative" which certainly has a ring of irony. You could try, certainly, but we're nothing to do with Goons so all you'd be doing is reinforcing my point. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 549	Posted - 2012.12.10 14:03:00 - [143] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Nex apparatu5 wrote: I never got the whole "waaaa CTAs" and "waaa I don't have enough isk" arguments. Most competent nullsec alliances got rid of CTAs long ago, and will fully reimburse you for PvP losses in fleets. I had my reasons for leaving null, but neither of those were part of my decision. They're a popular talking point in NPC corp channels alongside the permanent 75 man gatecamps that guard every enterence to hisec. Ain't that the truth. When i was new in 2007 I got into a mission running corp and they kept talking about how evil null sec was, how if you go there your ship will magically vaporize, how you become a slave, how it's so bad that if you lose 10 ships in a 2 day period, Icleandic Special Forces Commandos will come to your house and make you eat disgusting fish based dishes etc etc. Then I actually went to null after a few months puttering around in FW and I'm all like "where is all the fish i was promised?". CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1886	Posted - 2012.12.10 15:01:00 - [144] - Quote Malcanis wrote: You could try, certainly, but we're nothing to do with Goons so all you'd be doing is reinforcing my point. Good job burning down -A-'s home, by the way. Wish I could see it, busy playing GENERAL DISCUSSION: Online instead. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 2231	Posted - 2012.12.10 15:36:00 - [145] - Quote pussnheels wrote: man lot of you still feel butthurt for getting kicked out of your sandcastle, really , and yes i do realize that one day i will be kicked out of null sec by somebody else instead of whinning about it why don't you do something about it One day there will be no TEST or goons anymore and coalitions are a pretty fragile concept in this game Why should someone care to come kick you away? To achieve what? Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 456	Posted - 2012.12.10 15:46:00 - [146] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: pussnheels wrote: man lot of you still feel butthurt for getting kicked out of your sandcastle, really , and yes i do realize that one day i will be kicked out of null sec by somebody else instead of whinning about it why don't you do something about it One day there will be no TEST or goons anymore and coalitions are a pretty fragile concept in this game Why should someone care to come kick you away? To achieve what? Vaerah, this null sec guy is not going to get it. The people that want to play the null sec game ALREADY DO. The vast majority of players in the null sec alliances that got wiped out in the past 9 months have not left null, they have merely joined other corps/alliances that have been subsumed by the remaining alliances. The concept that people in high sec have no interest in waging null sec war, is lost on this guy. Plus, he does not see that the players that at one point would have liked to knock off Test or goons have instead JOINED the CFC or HBC, and hence no longer a force of change. The saying "be careful for you wish for" is for very appropriate for the current null sec stagnation issue. They are so bored with no one to wage war against in null they have decided to wage war against high sec, and they are winning.
LHA Tarawa Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 98	Posted - 2012.12.10 15:55:00 - [147] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: If we had system to system dial in warp like Star Trek or Star Wars it would be the end of the Great Wall of Carebear formed by the gank pipelines and intel channels and the end of safe nullsec. Get rid of local too and it's the end of botting. Why do you want to make null even more empty than it already is? Anything that makes it easier to kill people will simply mean there are fewer people there to kill.
terrly bronks Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.12.10 15:59:00 - [148] - Quote Wo nko wrote: why is null empty? - titan bridging - jump bridges - jump freighters - beef'd up ratting systems - no new interest in 0.0 Yep ^^ I to did a 50 + jump in 0.0 very little out there small gate camps at enter points and thats about it the alliance I was in had 15 people in it in my TZ and 100 maybe in the intell chanel . 0.0 is not as fun anymore
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 346	Posted - 2012.12.10 16:05:00 - [149] - Quote Wo nko wrote: why is null empty? - no new interest in 0.0 That was is legit. You go there two or three times, evac two or three times, end up leaving a bunch of stuff you will never see again, two or three times. Suddenly you see it for the suckers bet it is.
Mortimer Civeri Aliastra Gallente Federation 264	Posted - 2012.12.10 16:29:00 - [150] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: pussnheels wrote: man lot of you still feel butthurt for getting kicked out of your sandcastle, really , and yes i do realize that one day i will be kicked out of null sec by somebody else instead of whinning about it why don't you do something about it One day there will be no TEST or goons anymore and coalitions are a pretty fragile concept in this game Why should someone care to come kick you away? To achieve what? The only reason that someone would want to kick anybody out of 0.0 is if you have money moons, a high enough trusec to make hubs, havens, and sanctums, appear when you upgrade the system, or is convienient to put a jump bridge to empire in, and that is about it really. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

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