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Aren Madigan EVE University Ivy League 75	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:31:00 - [631] - Quote Grimpak wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: At the risk if going slightly off-topic if I may. By sheer coincidence, I was looking at the Eve-Uni website earlier today with a view to applying so that I could improve my terrible pvp skills. Think I shall look for a different corp. Eve-Uni and the game in general would suffer no great loss if their CEO if he was to biomass his character. thing is, 3 years ago I would recomend eve-u to any noob that wanted to learn stuff. nowadays and specially with this crap? hell better get your teaching somewhere. I still would even if Kelduum is completely in the wrong in every way. Completely condemning someone for one thing you don't like is grade school behavior far as I'm concerned.
Nikolai Lachance Happy Wheels Logistics 3	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:32:00 - [632] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: At the risk if going slightly off-topic if I may. By sheer coincidence, I was looking at the Eve-Uni website earlier today with a view to applying so that I could improve my terrible pvp skills. Think I shall look for a different corp. Eve-Uni and the game in general would suffer no great loss if their CEO if he was to biomass his character. That's a very bold assessment from someone with no experience in the corporation or in dealing with Kelduum himself. If improving your PvP skills is your goal, then you have many options available to you. E-Uni deals in educating in all aspects of EVE gameplay, including PvP but PvP is not a focus of the organization.
Zombie132 Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:33:00 - [633] - Quote Kick Kelduum from the CSM! He has publicly defamed CCP, acted irresponsibly and behaved in a way which is counter to the interests of the player base he was elected to represent. [K]ick [K]elduum [F]rom the [C]SM! K-KFC! Just thought this rabble needed a catchcry~
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3381	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:33:00 - [634] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: At the risk if going slightly off-topic if I may. By sheer coincidence, I was looking at the Eve-Uni website earlier today with a view to applying so that I could improve my terrible pvp skills. Think I shall look for a different corp. Eve-Uni and the game in general would suffer no great loss if their CEO if he was to biomass his character. Make sure he sends all his isk to some space-important group ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alicia Fermi PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 33	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:34:00 - [635] - Quote That is unfair. EVE University less run by Kelduum than the volunteer army of recruiters, mentors, teachers, and so on. (Hell, Kelduum even handed the day-to-day CEO-type activities to another director as we was moving countries.) I still think that E-UNI is a good place to direct newbies who cannot get into one of the other newbie-friendly corporations (e.g. Dreddit, GoonWaffe, etc.). However, I would suggest that said newbies move to a corp dedicated toward their chosen game style once they have the basics down and an idea of what they want to do.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 774	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:34:00 - [636] - Quote Aren Madigan wrote: Grimpak wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: At the risk if going slightly off-topic if I may. By sheer coincidence, I was looking at the Eve-Uni website earlier today with a view to applying so that I could improve my terrible pvp skills. Think I shall look for a different corp. Eve-Uni and the game in general would suffer no great loss if their CEO if he was to biomass his character. thing is, 3 years ago I would recomend eve-u to any noob that wanted to learn stuff. nowadays and specially with this crap? hell better get your teaching somewhere. I still would even if Kelduum is completely in the wrong in every way. Completely condemning someone for one thing you don't like is grade school behavior far as I'm concerned. dunno, eve-U definitely wasn't like this in the past, and stuff changed with Keldrum, so, personal opinion is that the issue is Keldrum, not eve-u. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Moneta Curran Lunar Industries Ltd 17	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:36:00 - [637] - Quote This Kelduum character should resign. No politician should get away with embezzlement. If one infamous CSM member can show the good grace to step down after an impulsive drunken sneer at the expense of some random clown, Kelduum should certainly give up his seat after this attempt to hide botted isk in plain sight. The fact that he feels entitled to the botted isk is hilarious, the way he tried to create public outrage over this appalling. It merely demonstrates that he is completely unfit to be on the council.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 976	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:38:00 - [638] - Quote I mean no disrespect to Eve-Uni. They just need a new CEO. This is not a signature.
Aren Madigan EVE University Ivy League 75	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:38:00 - [639] - Quote Grimpak wrote: dunno, eve-U definitely wasn't like this in the past, and stuff changed with Keldrum, so, personal opinion is that the issue is Keldrum, not eve-u. Honestly I don't even know anything about the guy. Plus situations change. I'd say though there isn't one person in the world who you can't **** off and make essentially throw a tantrum. Except maybe people like Ghandi...
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2417	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:42:00 - [640] - Quote Nikolai Lachance wrote: Mallak Azaria wrote: Callie Cross wrote: Everyone keeps jumping on this EUNI CEO SUPPORTS BOTTING bandwagon, but no one can provide a single word of source backing it up. Have a good, long read through the E-UNI thread that started all of this. And if, upon doing so, you come away with the impression that Kelduum supports botting, you have reading comprehension issues (or a significant personal bias against Kelduum). Kelduum Revaan wrote: he was a station trader, and a very good one at that, playing trade markets in EVE like a professional, using the common tools available, as well as custom built tools, but never automating anything to do with the EVE client himself - the closest he ever got was probably to create custom in-game-browser pages to streamline his workflow, meaning he would log into an alt, and update around 30 orders a minute for 10-20 minutes at a time. Says he did nothing wrong, then immediately proceeds to tell us how he did it. Kelduum supported a botter & tried to justify his actions, therefore condoning it. And that's only in the first post, there's a whole 11 pages of E-UNI people supporting this. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular.
Shamon Hussad Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:42:00 - [641] - Quote Can someone explain to me, without using any derogatory language, or calling others names, why we are all hating on Keldrum?
Nikolai Lachance Happy Wheels Logistics 3	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:43:00 - [642] - Quote Moneta Curran wrote: This Kelduum character should resign. No politician should get away with embezzlement. If one infamous CSM member can show the good grace to step down after an impulsive drunken sneer at the expense of some random clown, Kelduum should certainly give up his seat after this attempt to hide botted isk in plain sight. The fact that he feels entitled to the botted isk is hilarious, the way he tried to create public outrage over this appalling. It merely demonstrates that he is completely unfit to be on the council. Are you daft? E-Uni receives an unsolicited donation of all of a player's ISK as he decides to quit the game. Kelduum, knowing this player was involved in disciplinary action for potential botting to obtain ISK, isolates this donation away from E-Uni assets to prevent it from being used for corp activities, and then contacts CCP to determine the legality of this ISK. How do you get from that to an accusation of "embezzlement" or an attempt to "hide" botted ISK? Kelduum could have simply allowed the money to be used in the corporation. The question is, would it have been confiscated if Kelduum hadn't said anything to CCP? Or, was Kelduum (and by extension in this case, E-Uni) essentially punished for his due dilligence?
Khanh'rhh GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1702	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:44:00 - [643] - Quote Wowza. Just when you think Kelduum can't get any more whiney and entitled he posts something like this Kelduum on E-Uni forums wrote: Actually, E-UNI has historically been treated pretty badly by CCP, although probably not on purpose. From expansions that break things, them 'stealing' our public channel by making it official (which totally broke it for some time) to broken API things and bugs with titles, not to mention the changes to wardec mechanics which were supposed to fix loopholes but in fact made things worse. In fact, Retribution was the first expansion in years (as long back as I can recall) that didn't break something important to E-UNI It's "probably not on purpose" that expansions didn't personally consider his alliance. Jesus wept. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's
Aren Madigan EVE University Ivy League 75	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:44:00 - [644] - Quote Shamon Hussad wrote: Can someone explain to me, without using any derogatory language, or calling others names, why we are all hating on Keldrum? Mostly people upset he brought this in the public eye and false assumption he supports botting I think sums it up.
Alicia Fermi PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 34	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:45:00 - [645] - Quote Shamon Hussad wrote: Can someone explain to me, without using any derogatory language, or calling others names, why we are all hating on Keldrum? Kelduum, as E-UNI's CEO, was checking the legitimacy of a 300 billion ISK donation left by a biomassing player (player received a temp ban beforehand). CCP get back saying the ISK is not legitimate and remove it. Kelduum fails in getting told exactly why and writes up a post in the E-UNI forums where the toys come out.
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2422	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:45:00 - [646] - Quote Aren Madigan wrote: Grimpak wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: At the risk if going slightly off-topic if I may. By sheer coincidence, I was looking at the Eve-Uni website earlier today with a view to applying so that I could improve my terrible pvp skills. Think I shall look for a different corp. Eve-Uni and the game in general would suffer no great loss if their CEO if he was to biomass his character. thing is, 3 years ago I would recomend eve-u to any noob that wanted to learn stuff. nowadays and specially with this crap? hell better get your teaching somewhere. I still would even if Kelduum is completely in the wrong in every way. Completely condemning someone for one thing you don't like is grade school behavior far as I'm concerned. It just so happens that this one thing that we don't like has a detrimental affect on the game & it's players, and don't forget that people are pretty quick to condem a goon or TEST member for doing one thing that they don't like. Don't try to pretend that it's not the case. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 777	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:46:00 - [647] - Quote Aren Madigan wrote: Shamon Hussad wrote: Can someone explain to me, without using any derogatory language, or calling others names, why we are all hating on Keldrum? Mostly people upset he brought this in the public eye and false assumption he supports botting I think sums it up. tbh, from my POV, discrediting eve-U. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Kathern Aurilen 15	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:48:00 - [648] - Quote Hannott Thanos wrote: CCP Sreegs, not the hero we want, but the hero we need. Lol he needs a cape flapping in the breeze from his air recycling system on his ship I am a chat alt, unskilled in the ways of pewpew -á:( I named my mining frig adVenture time!!
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 1037	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:48:00 - [649] - Quote Shamon Hussad wrote: Can someone explain to me, without using any derogatory language, or calling others names, why we are all hating on Keldrum? Because the goons, test, et. al. need someone to scapegoat to draw attention away from their own botting activities. /dons Nomex suit. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.'
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 6709	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:48:00 - [650] - Quote 317B ISK Gone from Goonswarm: Who Watches the Watchmen? tl;dr: Goonswarm member with spotless record gets temp banned for suspected botting. Is told to go away when he professes innocence and provides proof. Decides to just leave EVE and donates 300 billion ISK to Goonswarm. Goonswarm asks CCP if its all legit, CCP removes it. Goonswarm asks why even leave it with him if it was legit, and is concerned that CCPs security team have no oversight. Goonswarm is told to go away. CCP's security team have no oversight? clearly the reaction would be "oh man this ban was clearly undeserved and Goonswarm should have kept the 327B" ~a proud belligerent undesirable~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8
Kinis Deren EVE University Ivy League 146	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:49:00 - [651] - Quote Moneta Curran wrote: This Kelduum character should resign. No politician should get away with embezzlement. If one infamous CSM member can show the good grace to step down after an impulsive drunken sneer at the expense of some random clown, Kelduum should certainly give up his seat after this attempt to hide botted isk in plain sight. The fact that he feels entitled to the botted isk is hilarious, the way he tried to create public outrage over this appalling. It merely demonstrates that he is completely unfit to be on the council. Moneta, at no point did Keld "try to hide botted ISK" as you put it. In fact, just on the merest suspicion that it might be tarnished, Keld raised the concern with CCP in the appropriate manner. Please read the E-Uni thread for a full description of what went on. If Keld is guilty of anything, I think it is putting too much trust in a fellow corp mate's ("John", in this instance) word that their actions were whiter than white, based upon the amount of work the guy had apparently done within the corp. CCP Sreegs has spoken and that really should be the end of this thread and the whole sorry affair tbh.
Nikolai Lachance Happy Wheels Logistics 3	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:49:00 - [652] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: Kelduum Revaan wrote: he was a station trader, and a very good one at that, playing trade markets in EVE like a professional, using the common tools available, as well as custom built tools, but never automating anything to do with the EVE client himself - the closest he ever got was probably to create custom in-game-browser pages to streamline his workflow, meaning he would log into an alt, and update around 30 orders a minute for 10-20 minutes at a time. Says he did nothing wrong, then immediately proceeds to tell us how he did it. Kelduum supported a botter & tried to justify his actions, therefore condoning it. And that's only in the first post, there's a whole 11 pages of E-UNI people supporting this. Kelduum supported the individual because, based on his knowledge of what "John" was doing, he didn't believe it was botting. According to "John", none of his interactions with the game were automated. Kelduum would not support violating the EULA (evidenced by the fact that he is withholding the content of the petitions, much to his detriment). And, insofar as what "John" was actually doing was a legitimate violatoin of the EULA, I'm sure Kelduum would support the appropriate disciplinary actions. The key thing here is that, given what Kelduum knows about "John's" actvities, there is no EULA violation. Clearly CCP disagrees, so that means that Kelduum A) is misinterpreting or misinformed about some aspect of the EULA, B) What Kelduum knows about "John's" activities is incomplete, or C) CCP is being liberal with their own interpretation of their EULA. The only thing that is not true is that Kelduum knows/believes "John" was legitimately botting and supported such activity.
JD No7 Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable. 29	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:50:00 - [653] - Quote Is Eve Uni supposed to teach players some actual skills, cos all I see is muppets in 1s and 2s getting murdered in 0.0.
Callie Cross Tax Code 6	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:50:00 - [654] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: Says he did nothing wrong, then immediately proceeds to tell us how he did it. Kelduum supported a botter & tried to justify his actions, therefore condoning it. And that's only in the first post, there's a whole 11 pages of E-UNI people supporting this. Ummm no. Explaining that someone did not automate a process ("botting") is not supporting a botter. Kelduum Revaan wrote: he was a station trader, and a very good one at that, playing trade markets in EVE like a professional, using the common tools available, as well as custom built tools, but never automating anything to do with the EVE client himself Kelduum Revaan wrote: as well as custom built tools, but never automating anything to do with the EVE client himself Kelduum Revaan wrote: never automating anything
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2422	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:51:00 - [655] - Quote Andski wrote: 317B ISK Gone from Goonswarm: Who Watches the Watchmen? tl;dr: Goonswarm member with spotless record gets temp banned for suspected botting. Is told to go away when he professes innocence and provides proof. Decides to just leave EVE and donates 300 billion ISK to Goonswarm. Goonswarm asks CCP if its all legit, CCP removes it. Goonswarm asks why even leave it with him if it was legit, and is concerned that CCPs security team have no oversight. Goonswarm is told to go away. CCP's security team have no oversight? clearly the reaction would be "oh man this ban was clearly undeserved and Goonswarm should have kept the 327B" 'lol botter' Andski is right, that is exactly how the EVE community would react if it was us. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular.
Aren Madigan EVE University Ivy League 75	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:51:00 - [656] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: It just so happens that this one thing that we don't like has a detrimental affect on the game & it's players, and don't forget that people are pretty quick to condem a goon or TEST member for doing one thing that they don't like. Don't try to pretend that it's not the case. And did I say those people were any better?
Alicia Fermi PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 34	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:51:00 - [657] - Quote Andski wrote: 317B ISK Gone from Goonswarm: Who Watches the Watchmen? tl;dr: Goonswarm member with spotless record gets temp banned for suspected botting. Is told to go away when he professes innocence and provides proof. Decides to just leave EVE and donates 300 billion ISK to Goonswarm. Goonswarm asks CCP if its all legit, CCP removes it. Goonswarm asks why even leave it with him if it was legit, and is concerned that CCPs security team have no oversight. Goonswarm is told to go away. CCP's security team have no oversight? clearly the reaction would be "oh man this ban was clearly undeserved and Goonswarm should have kept the 327B" It was all Soundwave's fault.
Nikolai Lachance Happy Wheels Logistics 3	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:52:00 - [658] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: Wowza. Just when you think Kelduum can't get any more whiney and entitled he posts something like this It's "probably not on purpose" that expansions didn't personally consider his alliance. Jesus wept. That wasn't a post written out of a sense of entitlement. He wrote that in response to the suggestion that CCP somehow gives E-Uni special treatment. It isn't that Kelduum believes CCP has wronged him in all of these instances, he is simply indicating that the history of changes to the game clearly do not comport with the claim that CCP gives E-Uni special treatment.
Saithe Grumpy Old Spacevets 70	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:53:00 - [659] - Quote I demand immediate reimbursement of my butthurt detector, because after reading this thread, mine exploded in to thousands of tiny pieces of flaming shrapnel and somehow my "thorax" got caught in it.
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2422	Posted - 2013.02.12 23:53:00 - [660] - Quote Callie Cross wrote: Mallak Azaria wrote: Says he did nothing wrong, then immediately proceeds to tell us how he did it. Kelduum supported a botter & tried to justify his actions, therefore condoning it. And that's only in the first post, there's a whole 11 pages of E-UNI people supporting this. Ummm no. Explaining that someone did not automate a process ("botting") is not supporting a botter. Kelduum Revaan wrote: he was a station trader, and a very good one at that, playing trade markets in EVE like a professional, using the common tools available, as well as custom built tools, but never automating anything to do with the EVE client himself Kelduum Revaan wrote: as well as custom built tools, but never automating anything to do with the EVE client himself Kelduum Revaan wrote: never automating anything Except the whole part where he used a web-assisted program that allowed him to perform actions faster than they can actually be performed. Kelduum knew about this, no matter how you try to spin it, the evidence is in his initial post. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular.

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