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Ron1n
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:28:00 - [1]

You think Stain alliance powerful?! No! There just never was RUS corp!
We will kill each from Stain alliance. We will destroy you all completely, Will kill each transport in system with any status of safety. We will kill each miners. We will destroy all your battleships. We will press all your cruiser. And for you begin Third Genesis!

You may avoid this, having paid 100 000 megacyte and 100 000 zydrine. The MASS Corporation must pay fine to us . I do not know as you will get such amounts of minerals, but I certain for powerful Stain alliance this is trifle.

If anyone will give me list all corporations falling into alliance. I will is much thanked.


Ron1n
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:28:00 - [2]

You think Stain alliance powerful?! No! There just never was RUS corp!
We will kill each from Stain alliance. We will destroy you all completely, Will kill each transport in system with any status of safety. We will kill each miners. We will destroy all your battleships. We will press all your cruiser. And for you begin Third Genesis!

You may avoid this, having paid 100 000 megacyte and 100 000 zydrine. The MASS Corporation must pay fine to us . I do not know as you will get such amounts of minerals, but I certain for powerful Stain alliance this is trifle.

If anyone will give me list all corporations falling into alliance. I will is much thanked.


Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:33:00 - [3]

Hmph...And I always respected RUS Corp. What has caused this turn of events? And no EVE Marshals isn't part of the Stain Alliance, though they have helped us before.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:33:00 - [4]

Hmph...And I always respected RUS Corp. What has caused this turn of events? And no EVE Marshals isn't part of the Stain Alliance, though they have helped us before.
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KillerQuokka
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:36:00 - [5]

Hmm...interesting...care to give us more info?

And no, Symbiosis corp is NOT a member of Stain alliance either ;)
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KillerQuokka
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:36:00 - [6]

Hmm...interesting...care to give us more info?

And no, Symbiosis corp is NOT a member of Stain alliance either ;)
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:48:00 - [7]

Way to go RUS. Burn them all Ron1n! If I can help, give me a call. I will do my best.

Атака!

Edited by: Molly on 18/07/2003 08:50:41
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:48:00 - [8]

Way to go RUS. Burn them all Ron1n! If I can help, give me a call. I will do my best.

Атака!

Edited by: Molly on 18/07/2003 08:50:41
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:51:00 - [9]

RUS = Russian players. Write a post in russian before you are too critical. k? =]
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:51:00 - [10]

RUS = Russian players. Write a post in russian before you are too critical. k? =]
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:55:00 - [11]

It's not a "drunkard vocifering insaneties..." and it's not a threat it's just a PROMISE.

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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:55:00 - [12]

It's not a "drunkard vocifering insaneties..." and it's not a threat it's just a PROMISE.

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:56:00 - [13]

100,000 megacyte!?!

*chokes on breakfast*

damn, thats a lot of cheddar.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:56:00 - [14]

I know you will make it guys. Crush them! Crush them!

And take some pictures when they pray for foregivness and stuff please!
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:56:00 - [15]

I know you will make it guys. Crush them! Crush them!

And take some pictures when they pray for foregivness and stuff please!
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.07.18 08:56:00 - [16]

100,000 megacyte!?!

*chokes on breakfast*

damn, thats a lot of cheddar.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:10:00 - [17]

Well I guess this signals the start of the first great Corp Wars. My intial question was stupid now that I think about it. And I too choked at the thought of 100k Megacyte...
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TRIGGER
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:10:00 - [18]

Official statement:
Over the past few weeks RUS has shown good interest in the Stain Alliance, to the point where the Alliqance have been allowing members from RUS to hunt and stay in our HQ and they have asked to join the alliance. As RUS well knows I asked that only 1 member hunt here Technolisa for now (the reason RUS know why).
The member that entered today was very politely asked to leave until he was authorised to enter by an officer of my corp. He declined and proceeded to hunt until he went to the gate where members where guarding, he was not targetted and was given free passage to leave. He opened fire on a ship and left.
At this point I take no action until I speak with RUS but be warned, threatening with a fine does not do RUS corp any justice .
I hold RUS members who I know in high regard and so I wait to speak with a representative.


Edited by: TRIGGER on 18/07/2003 09:10:33
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:10:00 - [19]

Official statement:
Over the past few weeks RUS has shown good interest in the Stain Alliance, to the point where the Alliqance have been allowing members from RUS to hunt and stay in our HQ and they have asked to join the alliance. As RUS well knows I asked that only 1 member hunt here Technolisa for now (the reason RUS know why).
The member that entered today was very politely asked to leave until he was authorised to enter by an officer of my corp. He declined and proceeded to hunt until he went to the gate where members where guarding, he was not targetted and was given free passage to leave. He opened fire on a ship and left.
At this point I take no action until I speak with RUS but be warned, threatening with a fine does not do RUS corp any justice .
I hold RUS members who I know in high regard and so I wait to speak with a representative.


Edited by: TRIGGER on 18/07/2003 09:10:33
Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:10:00 - [20]

Well I guess this signals the start of the first great Corp Wars. My intial question was stupid now that I think about it. And I too choked at the thought of 100k Megacyte...
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:13:00 - [21]

Should be interesting....

:)
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:13:00 - [22]

Should be interesting....

:)
Bolka
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:16:00 - [23]


I definetely didn't say this because of the quality of his english.
I meant the quality of the content.
Bolka
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:16:00 - [24]


I definetely didn't say this because of the quality of his english.
I meant the quality of the content.
Gurenus
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:21:00 - [25]

Oficial press release:
From this minute RUS Corporation breaks all diplomacy contacts with Stain alliance and all alliances which has any contacts with MASS Corporation. This step has been caused, numerous violations of the charter of alliance by MASS Corporation. The fact of actual attack of our CEO by member of MASS Corporation while he huted NPC pirates in one of the systems controlled by alliance can't be forgiven.
Today head of corporation sanctioned attack on any of members of Stain allinace, anywhere in universe. If corporation is no longer member of Stain alliance it will not be attacked. Only way to stop our troops is pay to RUS Corpotration 100.000 Megacyte and 100.000 Zydrine. Until then it's a war.
Gurenus
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:21:00 - [26]

Oficial press release:
From this minute RUS Corporation breaks all diplomacy contacts with Stain alliance and all alliances which has any contacts with MASS Corporation. This step has been caused, numerous violations of the charter of alliance by MASS Corporation. The fact of actual attack of our CEO by member of MASS Corporation while he huted NPC pirates in one of the systems controlled by alliance can't be forgiven.
Today head of corporation sanctioned attack on any of members of Stain allinace, anywhere in universe. If corporation is no longer member of Stain alliance it will not be attacked. Only way to stop our troops is pay to RUS Corpotration 100.000 Megacyte and 100.000 Zydrine. Until then it's a war.
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:26:00 - [27]

I should have asked RUS for 100k Zydrine and 100k Megacyte after Technolisa destroyed a Thorax and my predecessor to pieces :P.

Joke.

Edited by: Molly on 18/07/2003 09:26:14
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:26:00 - [28]

I should have asked RUS for 100k Zydrine and 100k Megacyte after Technolisa destroyed a Thorax and my predecessor to pieces :P.

Joke.

Edited by: Molly on 18/07/2003 09:26:14
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
Thano
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:30:00 - [29]

and so it begins.....
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:30:00 - [30]

and so it begins.....
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:33:00 - [31]

A real war, I love it :P


/me contemplates moving ship and ammo production closer to Stain ;)
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:33:00 - [32]

A real war, I love it :P


/me contemplates moving ship and ammo production closer to Stain ;)

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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:36:00 - [33]

< gives RUS corp thumb up.
I never forget Stain aliance the podding long time ago so 2 certain members r always KOS. :o)

Edited by: Caya on 18/07/2003 12:21:27
Rock Dollar
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:36:00 - [34]

Let's get ready to rrrrrumble!!

Good luck RUS - I'm sure you will get plenty of support for this action.


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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:36:00 - [35]

Let's get ready to rrrrrumble!!

Good luck RUS - I'm sure you will get plenty of support for this action.


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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:36:00 - [36]

< gives RUS corp thumb up.
I never forget Stain aliance the podding long time ago so 2 certain members r always KOS. :o)

Edited by: Caya on 18/07/2003 12:21:27
Frakture
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:37:00 - [37]

Really sparked my interest.....
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:37:00 - [38]

Really sparked my interest.....
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:38:00 - [39]

OK
talks now in progress between us , no war im afraid

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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:38:00 - [40]

OK
talks now in progress between us , no war im afraid

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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:39:00 - [41]

You paid 100k Zydrine and 100k Megacyte then already?

Would be a short mega corp war then.

Edited by: Molly on 18/07/2003 09:40:07
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:39:00 - [42]

You paid 100k Zydrine and 100k Megacyte then already?

Would be a short mega corp war then.

Edited by: Molly on 18/07/2003 09:40:07
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:40:00 - [43]

zzzz
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zzzz
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:41:00 - [45]

bah....
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:41:00 - [46]

bah....
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:42:00 - [47]

Please be patient, if war begins, you will be first to know about this.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:42:00 - [48]

Damn..wish I had 100k of Mega and Zydrine laying around...Unless someone with a fast tongue talked their way out of it.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:42:00 - [49]

Damn..wish I had 100k of Mega and Zydrine laying around...Unless someone with a fast tongue talked their way out of it.
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Gurenus
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:42:00 - [50]

Please be patient, if war begins, you will be first to know about this.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:45:00 - [51]

RUS you have to get that 100k Zydrine and 100k Megacyte now or to go to war.

Otherwise nobody would take you seriously at the next war declaration :P.
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:45:00 - [52]

RUS you have to get that 100k Zydrine and 100k Megacyte now or to go to war.

Otherwise nobody would take you seriously at the next war declaration :P.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:50:00 - [53]

"RUS you have to get that 100k Zydrine and 100k Megacyte now or to go to war."

They could always take the ransom then go to war anyway claiming it was of very poor quality... :s

Wonder if we'll be getting live war updates on the news screens, that "Life of Zap" movie they show all the time is growing really old...
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:50:00 - [54]

"RUS you have to get that 100k Zydrine and 100k Megacyte now or to go to war."

They could always take the ransom then go to war anyway claiming it was of very poor quality... :s

Wonder if we'll be getting live war updates on the news screens, that "Life of Zap" movie they show all the time is growing really old...
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:55:00 - [55]

j0shepine you are genious!
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:55:00 - [56]

j0shepine you are genious!
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:57:00 - [57]

bah, after this big talk of 100k mega, if you backdown now, next thing you know, the fountain posse will be after you with their CTD's of d00m;/
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Posted - 2003.07.18 09:57:00 - [58]

bah, after this big talk of 100k mega, if you backdown now, next thing you know, the fountain posse will be after you with their CTD's of d00m;/
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:03:00 - [59]

Vae victo, vae victis!

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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:03:00 - [60]

Vae victo, vae victis!

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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:04:00 - [61]

This is beginning to warm up now. Has official war been declared? (I mean, in-game, not just the press rel.) Or is it just going to be PoS for everyone, regardless of security hits?
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:04:00 - [62]

This is beginning to warm up now. Has official war been declared? (I mean, in-game, not just the press rel.) Or is it just going to be PoS for everyone, regardless of security hits?
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:08:00 - [63]

Ok, if they pay us 100k of minerals, then there will be no war for sure. IF they not, well they can say better than me, what is happening right now near they HQ.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:08:00 - [64]

Ok, if they pay us 100k of minerals, then there will be no war for sure. IF they not, well they can say better than me, what is happening right now near they HQ.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:18:00 - [65]

I got a stipid question...

but why should we pay 100k mega?

we did nothing to you people...

you are the only ones that have attacked and killed a minning ship....

whats the payment for?
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:18:00 - [66]

I got a stipid question...

but why should we pay 100k mega?

we did nothing to you people...

you are the only ones that have attacked and killed a minning ship....

whats the payment for?
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:21:00 - [67]

If you declare a War, especially one declared with such ferocity, and then back down without the ransom obligation being fulfilled, ie 100k of Mega and Zyd paid in full, then you will look weak, and unable to carry out your initial strong threats.

The key is, either think about what your posting, and the consequences it has or be willing to stand by your word, and follow through on your convictions, wether those convictions were made in haste or anger, should have no bearing on the dealing of the ultimatum.

I have much respect for RUS, and imho they are the strongest corp in the game, for many reasons, so I hope that the leaders will not back down on this threat, or their next War Dec, is just going to be scoffed at.

I would also be very interested in knowing the Stains Alliance version of the story, what are the actions that caused such a ferocious rebuttle from such a normally measured and controlled corporation.

All Very interesting tbh.



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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:21:00 - [68]

How near is near? I don't see much traffic in the stain region at all...
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:21:00 - [69]

How near is near? I don't see much traffic in the stain region at all...
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:21:00 - [70]

If you declare a War, especially one declared with such ferocity, and then back down without the ransom obligation being fulfilled, ie 100k of Mega and Zyd paid in full, then you will look weak, and unable to carry out your initial strong threats.

The key is, either think about what your posting, and the consequences it has or be willing to stand by your word, and follow through on your convictions, wether those convictions were made in haste or anger, should have no bearing on the dealing of the ultimatum.

I have much respect for RUS, and imho they are the strongest corp in the game, for many reasons, so I hope that the leaders will not back down on this threat, or their next War Dec, is just going to be scoffed at.

I would also be very interested in knowing the Stains Alliance version of the story, what are the actions that caused such a ferocious rebuttle from such a normally measured and controlled corporation.

All Very interesting tbh.

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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:24:00 - [71]

Numerous cases of harasing of our members, threats to kill few of them and today our CEO. When he was hunting and tried to take lot from pirate you destroied it. You say it's your system but aren't you violating rules of alliance?

Edit: Commenting above post, we did not backwarded and don't have any plans to do it (unless fine will be payed).

Edited by: Gurenus on 18/07/2003 10:29:09
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:24:00 - [72]

RUS!! :] I coming to help you, I HATE THE STAIN ALLIANCE they should all die horribly!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:24:00 - [73]

Numerous cases of harasing of our members, threats to kill few of them and today our CEO. When he was hunting and tried to take lot from pirate you destroied it. You say it's your system but aren't you violating rules of alliance?

Edit: Commenting above post, we did not backwarded and don't have any plans to do it (unless fine will be payed).

Edited by: Gurenus on 18/07/2003 10:29:09
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:24:00 - [74]

RUS!! :] I coming to help you, I HATE THE STAIN ALLIANCE they should all die horribly!
Grikl
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:29:00 - [75]

now you are just plain out lieing

we have never harrased any of your members and it was anounced days ago that our system is in lock down because of the minerals being bugged...

but what do you do you bring bestowers to our system...

you are not allowed to mine in our system but you did and we did nothing ...
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:29:00 - [76]

now you are just plain out lieing

we have never harrased any of your members and it was anounced days ago that our system is in lock down because of the minerals being bugged...

but what do you do you bring bestowers to our system...

you are not allowed to mine in our system but you did and we did nothing ...
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:32:00 - [77]

I am not going to discuss here who is right and who is wrong. I do not be going to play in the words. I and You beautifully know why this has occurred. So you have two choices, die or pay.

Edited by: Ron1n on 18/07/2003 19:27:09
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:32:00 - [78]

I am not going to discuss here who is right and who is wrong. I do not be going to play in the words. I and You beautifully know why this has occurred. So you have two choices, die or pay.

Edited by: Ron1n on 18/07/2003 19:27:09
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:35:00 - [79]

"So you have two choices, die or pay"

lol, that is a classic quote :)

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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:35:00 - [80]

"So you have two choices, die or pay"

lol, that is a classic quote :)
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:36:00 - [81]

OK . Ronin comes back in system to talk with our CEO...
We get word no actions will be taken by either side.
Then Ronin locks my ship and starts attacking while still in talks.
Hmmmmmmmm
Reminds me of a "Date that will live in Infamy"

Japanese talked of peace just before they attacked Pearl Harbor and u know how that war ended.
Edited by: BlackViper on 18/07/2003 10:40:02

Edited by: BlackViper on 18/07/2003 10:40:57
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:36:00 - [82]

Can I say how sad I am that a corp we have treated as friends for so long should destroy a defensless miner in what appears to be a fit of anger, after a request that you keep to the agreement we made with you not to hunt in our HQ for the time being.

You then within minutes of declaring a cease-fire attack us a second time without warning.

I know it is almost the weekend, but I just hope that when you sober up, pride won't prevent you from putting things to rights.


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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:36:00 - [83]

OK . Ronin comes back in system to talk with our CEO...
We get word no actions will be taken by either side.
Then Ronin locks my ship and starts attacking while still in talks.
Hmmmmmmmm
Reminds me of a "Date that will live in Infamy"

Japanese talked of peace just before they attacked Pearl Harbor and u know how that war ended.
Edited by: BlackViper on 18/07/2003 10:40:02

Edited by: BlackViper on 18/07/2003 10:40:57
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:36:00 - [84]

Can I say how sad I am that a corp we have treated as friends for so long should destroy a defensless miner in what appears to be a fit of anger, after a request that you keep to the agreement we made with you not to hunt in our HQ for the time being.

You then within minutes of declaring a cease-fire attack us a second time without warning.

I know it is almost the weekend, but I just hope that when you sober up, pride won't prevent you from putting things to rights.


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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:37:00 - [85]

I not use word to talk about this???

ok come and kill me than cuz i aint got no 100k mega to pay you


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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:37:00 - [86]

I not use word to talk about this???

ok come and kill me than cuz i aint got no 100k mega to pay you


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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:40:00 - [87]

quite frankly the STAIN ALLIANCE are a STAIN on the life of EVE, you should all die horribly, Each and everyone of you, I will see to it that I make my life on eve dedicated to wiping you out.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:40:00 - [88]

quite frankly the STAIN ALLIANCE are a STAIN on the life of EVE, you should all die horribly, Each and everyone of you, I will see to it that I make my life on eve dedicated to wiping you out.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:42:00 - [89]

omg..
look what hapens when Technolisa goes to work...
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omg..
look what hapens when Technolisa goes to work...








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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:45:00 - [91]

yo griki muppet features, its not your system, hasnt got your name on it?
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yo griki muppet features, its not your system, hasnt got your name on it?
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:46:00 - [93]

Yes Lisa..has not been a good night. You might wanna talk to Trigger..Lots has happend tonight.

Ronin betrayed our trust Tonight :(


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Yes Lisa..has not been a good night. You might wanna talk to Trigger..Lots has happend tonight.

Ronin betrayed our trust Tonight :(


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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:47:00 - [95]

woOt. Looks like it'll be a war after all.

*finds good vantage point and gets comfy*



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woOt. Looks like it'll be a war after all.

*finds good vantage point and gets comfy*



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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:48:00 - [97]

bah....no peaceful resolution!!! time for eve to go to war!!! drum! drum! drum!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:48:00 - [98]

Everyone knows excelent reputation of RUS Corp. Do you belive to Stain alliance which expeled and killed everyone in their regions? MASS, your lie is only aggravate your sitaution.

Conserning hunting, isn't repawn rate is suficiant for you? Maybe you need respawn every second to satisfy your ambitions.
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Everyone knows excelent reputation of RUS Corp. Do you belive to Stain alliance which expeled and killed everyone in their regions? MASS, your lie is only aggravate your sitaution.

Conserning hunting, isn't repawn rate is suficiant for you? Maybe you need respawn every second to satisfy your ambitions.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:48:00 - [100]

bah....no peaceful resolution!!! time for eve to go to war!!! drum! drum! drum!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:49:00 - [101]

BlackViper stop this Pearl Harbor propaganda ****.

Most of the Americans do not know, but the U.S. Navy intelligence service has been aware of the upcoming attack and they even informed the president.

That's a historic fact.
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:49:00 - [102]

BlackViper stop this Pearl Harbor propaganda ****.

Most of the Americans do not know, but the U.S. Navy intelligence service has been aware of the upcoming attack and they even informed the president.

That's a historic fact.
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:51:00 - [103]

oh yea thats right i forgot to write my name on it..... doh


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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:51:00 - [104]

oh yea thats right i forgot to write my name on it..... doh


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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:53:00 - [105]

everyone i know has been threatened by the alliance, quite frankly the tables will turn, very very soon indeed.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:53:00 - [106]

everyone i know has been threatened by the alliance, quite frankly the tables will turn, very very soon indeed.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:54:00 - [107]

Gurenus... I will not argue with u in forums. Lisa knows our corp and our policys. i will leave this up to the leaders to work out.

You can call us all the names u want. that has never bothered me in the past and never will in the future.

We have always tried to provide a safe enviorment for ppl. daily we have to run the pirate corps out from blocking access to stain and would be travelers..

And with that i must say goodnight and may the wisdom of our leaders guide us inb the right direction.



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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:54:00 - [108]

Molly,

Can I assure you that we had no warning from CIA, or any other US deparment before RUS attacked us.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:54:00 - [109]

Molly,

Can I assure you that we had no warning from CIA, or any other US deparment before RUS attacked us.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:54:00 - [110]

Gurenus... I will not argue with u in forums. Lisa knows our corp and our policys. i will leave this up to the leaders to work out.

You can call us all the names u want. that has never bothered me in the past and never will in the future.

We have always tried to provide a safe enviorment for ppl. daily we have to run the pirate corps out from blocking access to stain and would be travelers..

And with that i must say goodnight and may the wisdom of our leaders guide us inb the right direction.



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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:55:00 - [111]

finally some content...lol!!!
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finally some content...lol!!!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:57:00 - [115]

Tbh i think RUS are lieing through their teeth about STAIN attacking there members etc, STAIN have kept to the same story throughout this thread and RUS seem to have different stories...I dont know Trigger well, but i do know i could trust him :o)
If a war breaks out then so be it, ill be on STAIN's side
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:57:00 - [116]

Tbh i think RUS are lieing through their teeth about STAIN attacking there members etc, STAIN have kept to the same story throughout this thread and RUS seem to have different stories...I dont know Trigger well, but i do know i could trust him :o)
If a war breaks out then so be it, ill be on STAIN's side
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:58:00 - [117]

nice one!!! some one find a tomb stone!!! quick!!!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:58:00 - [118]

nice one!!! some one find a tomb stone!!! quick!!!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 10:58:00 - [119]

RUS??



Edited by: Random on 19/07/2003 02:41:32
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RUS??



Edited by: Random on 19/07/2003 02:41:32



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nice one!!! some one find a tomb stone!!! quick!!!
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nice one!!! some one find a tomb stone!!! quick!!!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:03:00 - [123]

I think no war will be forthcoming tbh.

Stain will pay the 200k of minerals, or a settlement figure close to it.

But I am very vey surprised at the sheer anger portrayed in the first post.

Why aren't the CEOS from each corp involved in this thread?

What is the reality of a war, surely Rus aren't strong enogh to enter Mass space? So a few traders get wasted, whilst the commanders and chiefs sit buried and safe deep in thier own space. Much like real war I suupose.

Whatever happens, imho, it will be very difficult for either corp to come through this with reputations intact, if they are going to resolve this now very Public issue, in private.

Dont wash your dirty laundry in public, and if you do, dont pitch a screen up around it 5 minutes after a crowd has gathered to watch you. All that happens then, is people imagine what is actually going on behind the screen. Reputations are forged this way, unfortunately.



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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:03:00 - [124]

I think no war will be forthcoming tbh.

Stain will pay the 200k of minerals, or a settlement figure close to it.

But I am very vey surprised at the sheer anger portrayed in the first post.

Why aren't the CEOS from each corp involved in this thread?

What is the reality of a war, surely Rus aren't strong enogh to enter Mass space? So a few traders get wasted, whilst the commanders and chiefs sit buried and safe deep in thier own space. Much like real war I suupose.

Whatever happens, imho, it will be very difficult for either corp to come through this with reputations intact, if they are going to resolve this now very Public issue, in private.

Dont wash your dirty laundry in public, and if you do, dont pitch a screen up around it 5 minutes after a crowd has gathered to watch you. All that happens then, is people imagine what is actually going on behind the screen. Reputations are forged this way, unfortunately.

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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:04:00 - [125]

let the games begin!!!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:04:00 - [126]

let the games begin!!!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:06:00 - [127]

Everyone is so scared of RUS, its quite amusing. Go RUS for having so much respect.



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Because all of this happened in the middle of the night and they're probably all in bed :)
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Because all of this happened in the middle of the night and they're probably all in bed :)
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:06:00 - [130]

Everyone is so scared of RUS, its quite amusing. Go RUS for having so much respect.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:07:00 - [131]

"Reminds me of a "Date that will live in Infamy"

Japanese talked of peace just before they attacked Pearl Harbor and u know how that war ended."


Who cares how it ended, just think of how much brand new content was designed and built while it lasted... ;s~
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:07:00 - [132]

Trigger is the CEO of MASS

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"Reminds me of a "Date that will live in Infamy"

Japanese talked of peace just before they attacked Pearl Harbor and u know how that war ended."


Who cares how it ended, just think of how much brand new content was designed and built while it lasted... ;s~
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Trigger is the CEO of MASS

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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:10:00 - [135]

Are they scared enough to pay 100k of Mega and 100k of Zyd? Thats the question tbh.

(100,000 * 7000) + (100,000 * 1250) = Price of humiliation?

It looks like being caught between a rock n hard place for Stains, back down, pay the cash, and avoid some fairly heavy losses but look ****weak in the process, or dont pay, and potentially begin the disintegration of your Alliance (assuming the reported strength of RUS is the truth of course).



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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:10:00 - [136]

Are they scared enough to pay 100k of Mega and 100k of Zyd? Thats the question tbh.

(100,000 * 7000) + (100,000 * 1250) = Price of humiliation?

It looks like being caught between a rock n hard place for Stains, back down, pay the cash, and avoid some fairly heavy losses but look ****weak in the process, or dont pay, and potentially begin the disintegration of your Alliance (assuming the reported strength of RUS is the truth of course).

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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:11:00 - [137]

Ron1n is our CEO, wich you know very well. Oh by the way in Russia it's not night at all.
If it will be necesary to enter MASS space will do it. Sorry but I can't tell anything else right now.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:11:00 - [138]

lol
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:11:00 - [139]

lol



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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:11:00 - [140]

Ron1n is our CEO, wich you know very well. Oh by the way in Russia it's not night at all.
If it will be necesary to enter MASS space will do it. Sorry but I can't tell anything else right now.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:12:00 - [141]

As I understand it - Ronin is CEO of RUS (thread starter), and Trigger (CEO MASS) replied on first page of this thread.
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Viziam

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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:12:00 - [142]

As I understand it - Ronin is CEO of RUS (thread starter), and Trigger (CEO MASS) replied on first page of this thread.
Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:17:00 - [143]

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We have always tried to provide a safe enviorment for ppl. daily we have to run the pirate corps out from blocking access to stain and would be travelers..
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Apart from of course those travellers who accidently ambled into your territory, and were then destroyed with little or nor warning. Or who were driven out at the end of a gun barrel.

Now you will be brought to your knees but those proud warriors of RUS who first struck a blow against the horror of M0o ascendency, and now turn their gaze on your indulgent fantasies of grandeur.

Your actions, in opposition with the goals of the Greater Holy Amarr State indicate lapses of your Amarrian members into heresy, godless blasphemy and worse. Be they unable to answer faithfully to the Inquisition they will be cleansed, according to Spiritual Law.

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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:17:00 - [144]

i like war... as long as im not the one loosing my little ship..

Edited by: Psy Corp on 18/07/2003 11:17:06




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Athule Snanm
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Amarr
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:17:00 - [145]

>>
We have always tried to provide a safe enviorment for ppl. daily we have to run the pirate corps out from blocking access to stain and would be travelers..
>>

Apart from of course those travellers who accidently ambled into your territory, and were then destroyed with little or nor warning. Or who were driven out at the end of a gun barrel.

Now you will be brought to your knees but those proud warriors of RUS who first struck a blow against the horror of M0o ascendency, and now turn their gaze on your indulgent fantasies of grandeur.

Your actions, in opposition with the goals of the Greater Holy Amarr State indicate lapses of your Amarrian members into heresy, godless blasphemy and worse. Be they unable to answer faithfully to the Inquisition they will be cleansed, according to Spiritual Law.

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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:17:00 - [146]

i like war... as long as im not the one loosing my little ship..

Edited by: Psy Corp on 18/07/2003 11:17:06



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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:18:00 - [147]

dragunov

"I dont know Trigger well, but i do know i could trust him :o)"

**** you dont know me well... buy me a battleship bp, you can trust me.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:18:00 - [148]

dragunov

"I dont know Trigger well, but i do know i could trust him :o)"

**** you dont know me well... buy me a battleship bp, you can trust me.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:21:00 - [149]

TBH, i think the old russians have been getting a litle too ****ed on there beers, from what i can see this is all rus's fault, from what ive heard mass have not fired upon any rus members but rus have killed 1 mass miner adn fired upon a guard, therefore rus r digging themselves into a deep whole, and btw iw ill stand aside MASS my former corp -MoLeH-

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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:21:00 - [150]

Fact is members of the STAIN alliance threaten people going through. IMO they should be wiped out along with any other alliance that prevents other corps and freelancers heading through stain and mining there.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:21:00 - [151]

TBH, i think the old russians have been getting a litle too ****ed on there beers, from what i can see this is all rus's fault, from what ive heard mass have not fired upon any rus members but rus have killed 1 mass miner adn fired upon a guard, therefore rus r digging themselves into a deep whole, and btw iw ill stand aside MASS my former corp -MoLeH-
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:21:00 - [152]

Fact is members of the STAIN alliance threaten people going through. IMO they should be wiped out along with any other alliance that prevents other corps and freelancers heading through stain and mining there.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:25:00 - [153]

sydicate, dragunov trusts trigger cos trigger trusts him, trigger si a good bloke, i am now in a newbie corp and trigger does all he cna to help us, we have progressed so much faster because of this and TBH i would be happy to sit in my omen and open up with my litle guns to aid MASS the corp on teh right side of thsi conflict. -MoLeH-

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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:25:00 - [154]

I've never had a problem with the Stain Alliance, and foresee no problems with them. The Stain Alliance was created for a reason and they got the job done. As for them threatening folks? The Stain Alliance protects the mineral assets in the Stain region for their Alliance members. It's a game folks, it's all in good fun.

Keep the Faith,
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Noctoz
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:25:00 - [155]

This story doesn't make much sense.
I suppose however that we will know soon what is actually going on.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:25:00 - [156]

sydicate, dragunov trusts trigger cos trigger trusts him, trigger si a good bloke, i am now in a newbie corp and trigger does all he cna to help us, we have progressed so much faster because of this and TBH i would be happy to sit in my omen and open up with my litle guns to aid MASS the corp on teh right side of thsi conflict. -MoLeH-
NGRU Storm
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:25:00 - [157]

I've never had a problem with the Stain Alliance, and foresee no problems with them. The Stain Alliance was created for a reason and they got the job done. As for them threatening folks? The Stain Alliance protects the mineral assets in the Stain region for their Alliance members. It's a game folks, it's all in good fun.

Keep the Faith,
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Noctoz
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:25:00 - [158]

This story doesn't make much sense.
I suppose however that we will know soon what is actually going on.
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Fekhr
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:27:00 - [159]

Kind of lame for a somewhat decent corp. like RUS to first start a thread with basically trash talk without content, then make a official post then change it.
Makes me wonder what happened in the first place? Did this ronin dude get drunk start playing EVE failed to act correctly in game and then kill a miner and then getting even more drunk and post a non readable post on the forums. Seems like some have pretty low demands for their leaders if you ask me.

Please now that you guys (RUS) have started this thread give us more content. Tell us what happened in the first place. I want to read RUSĘs version of the story in correct English.

I have greate respect for Russians in RL but this is kind of lame of you guys. RUS do this correctly, post you reasons (explaine) then your demands then declare war.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:27:00 - [160]

/me prepares her ammo production facilities to run overtime and hires even more haulers.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:27:00 - [161]

Kind of lame for a somewhat decent corp. like RUS to first start a thread with basically trash talk without content, then make a official post then change it.
Makes me wonder what happened in the first place? Did this ronin dude get drunk start playing EVE failed to act correctly in game and then kill a miner and then getting even more drunk and post a non readable post on the forums. Seems like some have pretty low demands for their leaders if you ask me.

Please now that you guys (RUS) have started this thread give us more content. Tell us what happened in the first place. I want to read RUSĘs version of the story in correct English.

I have greate respect for Russians in RL but this is kind of lame of you guys. RUS do this correctly, post you reasons (explaine) then your demands then declare war.
Josephine
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:27:00 - [162]

/me prepares her ammo production facilities to run overtime and hires even more haulers.
xzarax
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:28:00 - [163]

They protect my minerals? I pay for this game like you and they belong to me as well as you, if it means destroying this alliance that prevent gamers from playing in those areas, then yes, you should be destroyed, you cause nothing but bad to the game this way.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:28:00 - [164]

They protect my minerals? I pay for this game like you and they belong to me as well as you, if it means destroying this alliance that prevent gamers from playing in those areas, then yes, you should be destroyed, you cause nothing but bad to the game this way.
Korath
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:34:00 - [165]

It's called claiming areas of space for your own. Perfectly valid if you ask me. What do you think is going to happen when people get their stations built in the far out regions. You can bet they'll be patrolling those areas and keeping people out. This is no different.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:34:00 - [166]

It's called claiming areas of space for your own. Perfectly valid if you ask me. What do you think is going to happen when people get their stations built in the far out regions. You can bet they'll be patrolling those areas and keeping people out. This is no different.
LeMoose
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:36:00 - [167]

Any one here other than me notice Space Invaders kissin RUS's ass?

Oh and RUS, I think you babushka's are diggin your own grave.

keep us upto date on this one please.
LeMoose
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:36:00 - [168]

Any one here other than me notice Space Invaders kissin RUS's ass?

Oh and RUS, I think you babushka's are diggin your own grave.

keep us upto date on this one please.
xzarax
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:37:00 - [169]

the fact is its easy to occupy one of the best places to mine in space, fact is there is not many places to mine now, due to these alliances claiming the decent areas.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:37:00 - [170]

the fact is its easy to occupy one of the best places to mine in space, fact is there is not many places to mine now, due to these alliances claiming the decent areas.
Ywev
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:38:00 - [171]

Ya space invaders fear rus's power. However, If we see any RUS ships they will die. We have already killed a few of your cruisers in a few regions. Bring the bships, We will kill them, now that your guns suck as bad as ours do.



Pod ya later..
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:38:00 - [172]

Ya space invaders fear rus's power. However, If we see any RUS ships they will die. We have already killed a few of your cruisers in a few regions. Bring the bships, We will kill them, now that your guns suck as bad as ours do.



Pod ya later..
Ywev
Psy Corp
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:43:00 - [173]

why is it that everyone thinks that just because you pay for this game you own everything in it... everyone pays for this game and its just as much everyones as its yours... but the thing is that its not enough of everything for everyone.. and thats why you want to start an allience like stain.. just so you can have it all to your self.. and if anyone els wants from that part or any other part of space that has an allience defending it.. you need to fight for it.. this is a game.. and its not a nice game were you get everything on a silverplate.. you will have to fight for getting the stuff you want.. just because you pay for the game no one els should defend space for there corp so you could take from it.. everyone has the goal of being the biggest one.. and you dont get there by letting everyone taking stuff you could have for your self by defending space.. and by defending a region you make it harder for other players to get big.. and that all good for you.. so please stop with the im paying for this game so you shouldent defend a part of space and stoping me from mining there.. stop your whining and do something to stop them instead..




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Psy Corp
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Caldari
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:43:00 - [174]

why is it that everyone thinks that just because you pay for this game you own everything in it... everyone pays for this game and its just as much everyones as its yours... but the thing is that its not enough of everything for everyone.. and thats why you want to start an allience like stain.. just so you can have it all to your self.. and if anyone els wants from that part or any other part of space that has an allience defending it.. you need to fight for it.. this is a game.. and its not a nice game were you get everything on a silverplate.. you will have to fight for getting the stuff you want.. just because you pay for the game no one els should defend space for there corp so you could take from it.. everyone has the goal of being the biggest one.. and you dont get there by letting everyone taking stuff you could have for your self by defending space.. and by defending a region you make it harder for other players to get big.. and that all good for you.. so please stop with the im paying for this game so you shouldent defend a part of space and stoping me from mining there.. stop your whining and do something to stop them instead..



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Fekhr
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:44:00 - [175]

WOW another step closer to total EVE war. SA, Mo0, sinister against RUS.

Next thing you will hear is EVEN TEAMS like all other shooter games. :P

Edited by: Fekhr on 18/07/2003 11:46:33
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:44:00 - [176]

WOW another step closer to total EVE war. SA, Mo0, sinister against RUS.

Next thing you will hear is EVEN TEAMS like all other shooter games. :P

Edited by: Fekhr on 18/07/2003 11:46:33
MoLeH
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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:47:00 - [177]

no Xzarax they protect there minerals theyve claimed them for there allies, just like many corps set up there HQ and try and prevent outsiders comeing in, the only difference between other corps and MASS, is MASS can stop outsiders coming in, all mass r doing is aiding lowly corps like mine to grow stronger quickly, and TBH rus r in the wrong, MASS was allowing rus to hunt in stain space and beeing very curtios all tehy did was set down a few rules like "only one rus member in HQ at one time" and "rus member must get permission to enter MASS space before entering" a rus member then came into MASS HQ while there was another rus member there, he also did not ask permission from a MASS officer, then when politely asked to leave declined and went on to hunt, guards from MASS then assembled at teh stargate incase there was trouble and when the rus member finally proceded to the stargate he started to approach tehn just before he jumped he fired upon a MASS guard, tbh it was rus that broke the rules MASS set done adn therefore rus r the guys in the wrong, whatever there reason for blatent disraguard for the rule Arrogance, Alchohol,Drugd i dont no but whatever the cuase its no on and they should have payed MASS teh same respect MASS where giving rus, and again i will state my allligence to MASS -MoLeH-

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Posted - 2003.07.18 11:47:00 - [178]

no Xzarax they protect there minerals theyve claimed them for there allies, just like many corps set up there HQ and try and prevent outsiders comeing in, the only difference between other corps and MASS, is MASS can stop outsiders coming in, all mass r doing is aiding lowly corps like mine to grow stronger quickly, and TBH rus r in the wrong, MASS was allowing rus to hunt in stain space and beeing very curtios all tehy did was set down a few rules like "only one rus member in HQ at one time" and "rus member must get permission to enter MASS space before entering" a rus member then came into MASS HQ while there was another rus member there, he also did not ask permission from a MASS officer, then when politely asked to leave declined and went on to hunt, guards from MASS then assembled at teh stargate incase there was trouble and when the rus member finally proceded to the stargate he started to approach tehn just before he jumped he fired upon a MASS guard, tbh it was rus that broke the rules MASS set done adn therefore rus r the guys in the wrong, whatever there reason for blatent disraguard for the rule Arrogance, Alchohol,Drugd i dont no but whatever the cuase its no on and they should have payed MASS teh same respect MASS where giving rus, and again i will state my allligence to MASS -MoLeH-
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:04:00 - [179]

Omg Wow...
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:04:00 - [180]

Omg Wow...
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:06:00 - [181]

fair enough, then I shall make it my goal to attack anyone in the stain alliance preventing me from mining there for the rest of the duration of this game.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:06:00 - [182]

fair enough, then I shall make it my goal to attack anyone in the stain alliance preventing me from mining there for the rest of the duration of this game.
Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:21:00 - [183]

>>
The Stain Alliance protects the mineral assets in the Stain region for their Alliance members... it's all in good fun.
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Now they will die slow agonising and lonely deaths in distant stars of Stain...it's all in good fun.

Live by the sword, and die by the nuclear holocaust.

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Athule Snanm
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Amarr
Blue Apple Industries

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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:21:00 - [184]

>>
The Stain Alliance protects the mineral assets in the Stain region for their Alliance members... it's all in good fun.
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Now they will die slow agonising and lonely deaths in distant stars of Stain...it's all in good fun.

Live by the sword, and die by the nuclear holocaust.

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Dragunov
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:22:00 - [185]

i believe the story told by Moleh is the correct one, as MASS are not the kind of corp to just cause problems for no reason, RUS seemed to have made the wrong move and are now trying to put the blame on MASS, then they ask for 100k of mega and zyd..rofl, what next RUS? stop lieing to everyone and tell everyone you made a mistake by not following the rules, im pretty sure MASS would accept the mistake if nothing more happens.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:22:00 - [186]

i believe the story told by Moleh is the correct one, as MASS are not the kind of corp to just cause problems for no reason, RUS seemed to have made the wrong move and are now trying to put the blame on MASS, then they ask for 100k of mega and zyd..rofl, what next RUS? stop lieing to everyone and tell everyone you made a mistake by not following the rules, im pretty sure MASS would accept the mistake if nothing more happens.
Jobe
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:34:00 - [187]

Oh dear.

Look what happens when you get a good nights kip.

Mass - A part of the Stain Alliance
Jobe
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Amarr
Viziam

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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:34:00 - [188]

Oh dear.

Look what happens when you get a good nights kip.

Mass - A part of the Stain Alliance
Grikl
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:36:00 - [189]

this is becoming silly

Me no talk me kill only!!!

nice CEO

you will get no minerals from us so deal with it...

if we had 100k mega we would have 100k battleships ... someone missed math class

have fun :)
Grikl
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Posted - 2003.07.18 12:36:00 - [190]

this is becoming silly

Me no talk me kill only!!!

nice CEO

you will get no minerals from us so deal with it...

if we had 100k mega we would have 100k battleships ... someone missed math class

have fun :)
Deathlok
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Posted - 2003.07.18 13:01:00 - [191]

RUS shows itself as the pirate corp it really is I see. Demanding a crazy ransom for a rule it appears they violated.

You know, you peeps keep talking about RUS, and how strong they are. I just looked up the Stain Corps. Ya Rus you go get em, all 800 members of Stain. hahahahaha, then I will only have to put Stain in as an area to avoid for the RUS debris.

RUS had two ships kill two of MOO's a few weeks ago. May I be the first to say.... big deal.

(I hope RUS attacks them, as RUS is no better then a Pirate corp if they are going to beg for money like this)

Deathlok
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Posted - 2003.07.18 13:01:00 - [192]

RUS shows itself as the pirate corp it really is I see. Demanding a crazy ransom for a rule it appears they violated.

You know, you peeps keep talking about RUS, and how strong they are. I just looked up the Stain Corps. Ya Rus you go get em, all 800 members of Stain. hahahahaha, then I will only have to put Stain in as an area to avoid for the RUS debris.

RUS had two ships kill two of MOO's a few weeks ago. May I be the first to say.... big deal.

(I hope RUS attacks them, as RUS is no better then a Pirate corp if they are going to beg for money like this)

loci
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Posted - 2003.07.18 13:02:00 - [193]

jobe, "Mass - Apart of the Stain Alliance"

apart means separate...

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Caldari

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Posted - 2003.07.18 13:02:00 - [194]

jobe, "Mass - Apart of the Stain Alliance"

apart means separate...

Endyl
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Posted - 2003.07.18 13:06:00 - [195]

(OOC)
People should not go in too much personals attack here.

IMHO RUS is trying to add content to the game.

Grats to RUS for showing the way. :)


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(OOC)
People should not go in too much personals attack here.

IMHO RUS is trying to add content to the game.

Grats to RUS for showing the way. :)


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rules are made to be broken.
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rules are made to be broken.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 13:15:00 - [199]

Why is this xzarax talking. I have newer seen him befor, nor heard of him.
Let the big ppl talk xzarax and go to "How to fitt my cruser" forums ;)

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Why is this xzarax talking. I have newer seen him befor, nor heard of him.
Let the big ppl talk xzarax and go to "How to fitt my cruser" forums ;)

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Posted - 2003.07.18 13:23:00 - [201]

The manner of the original post just reminds me of "All your base are belong to us..." ;D
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The manner of the original post just reminds me of "All your base are belong to us..." ;D
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random, you dont really know who your talking too.
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random, you dont really know who your talking too.
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hes got a pretty good idea, "a noob".

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hes got a pretty good idea, "a noob".
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This is looking interesting.

How much for a spectator ticket? Willing to pay a little bit to both sides. :)

I have a VCR next to my machine and TV-out, so I might be able to provide news footage. (Unfortunately I was teh st00pid and forgot to make sure my DV camcorder had analog input though, so getting the video back into the comp could be difficult.)
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This is looking interesting.

How much for a spectator ticket? Willing to pay a little bit to both sides. :)

I have a VCR next to my machine and TV-out, so I might be able to provide news footage. (Unfortunately I was teh st00pid and forgot to make sure my DV camcorder had analog input though, so getting the video back into the comp could be difficult.)
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Better than not knowing what you are talking about I suppose.
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Better than not knowing what you are talking about I suppose.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 13:37:00 - [211]

Space Invaders is not kissing anyone arse.
And I am not kissing anyones arse.

I just prefer RUS over the Stain Alliance.

Their members I have met SO FAR are pathetic idiots with sentences like "YOU DO NOT **** WITH THE STAIN ALLIANCE" or "Yeah i see your all on blackbirds ugly little Cruisers ...ill just bring 30 battleships here in 2 hours ...i hope your guys will be ehere".

Technolisa destroyed my Thorax assuming I was a pirate (in old days where I wasn't :P), it was rather funny to get owned in 2 seconds by an Armageddon.

Anyway, I am Polish and have learned some Russian in the school, that's why I like them particulary.

It's just a personal choice.

Edited by: Molly on 18/07/2003 13:38:14
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
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This should be good, please settle this with an all out war and not just a payoff =P

This would be a good war indeed.
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This should be good, please settle this with an all out war and not just a payoff =P

This would be a good war indeed.
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Space Invaders is not kissing anyone arse.
And I am not kissing anyones arse.

I just prefer RUS over the Stain Alliance.

Their members I have met SO FAR are pathetic idiots with sentences like "YOU DO NOT **** WITH THE STAIN ALLIANCE" or "Yeah i see your all on blackbirds ugly little Cruisers ...ill just bring 30 battleships here in 2 hours ...i hope your guys will be ehere".

Technolisa destroyed my Thorax assuming I was a pirate (in old days where I wasn't :P), it was rather funny to get owned in 2 seconds by an Armageddon.

Anyway, I am Polish and have learned some Russian in the school, that's why I like them particulary.

It's just a personal choice.

Edited by: Molly on 18/07/2003 13:38:14
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
"
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all I gotta say is... all your base.
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all I gotta say is... all your base.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 14:03:00 - [217]

makes no odds what you say, I do not take to threats to kindly, and all I have had from this alliance is threats.

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makes no odds what you say, I do not take to threats to kindly, and all I have had from this alliance is threats.

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Ywev

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Posted - 2003.07.18 14:15:00 - [221]

It is too bad it has come to this.




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It is too bad it has come to this.


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anyone for popcorn?



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anyone for popcorn?
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Well, it seems to me that this was inevitable. RUS wants access to those fields and hunting grounds no matter what, even if they have to start a War for them.

It sounds like RUS has clearly voilated the agreements with the Stain Alliance, but then I don't think they really care about that. I would think twice about making such agreements with them (RUS) myself, now.

I myself call out for RUS to tell us the Truth. Tell us why you REALLY made these demands and are declaring war. Don't make up some excuse to make it look like you are in the right.

Edited by: Bonepart on 18/07/2003 15:21:56

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Well, it seems to me that this was inevitable. RUS wants access to those fields and hunting grounds no matter what, even if they have to start a War for them.

It sounds like RUS has clearly voilated the agreements with the Stain Alliance, but then I don't think they really care about that. I would think twice about making such agreements with them (RUS) myself, now.

I myself call out for RUS to tell us the Truth. Tell us why you REALLY made these demands and are declaring war. Don't make up some excuse to make it look like you are in the right.

Edited by: Bonepart on 18/07/2003 15:21:56

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I'd also like to point at the word "negotiations" which in this case means that both sides are propably talking with each other AND the 200k minerals that were demanded are there just as part of negotiations, afterall noone ever starts out demanding what they expect to get, that would afterall be supid and kill much of the potential fun that you can have while negotiating.
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I'd also like to point at the word "negotiations" which in this case means that both sides are propably talking with each other AND the 200k minerals that were demanded are there just as part of negotiations, afterall noone ever starts out demanding what they expect to get, that would afterall be supid and kill much of the potential fun that you can have while negotiating.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 14:36:00 - [229]

That assumes you actually want your demands to be met in the first place...

Bonepart: by what right had Stain to make these 'laws' - they are not a legitimate authority. Their 'laws' are in fact illegal and if RUS clears the region of their mafia-like activities then they are doing the galaxy a favour, and themselves.


Edited by: Athule Snanm on 18/07/2003 14:38:41
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That assumes you actually want your demands to be met in the first place...

Bonepart: by what right had Stain to make these 'laws' - they are not a legitimate authority. Their 'laws' are in fact illegal and if RUS clears the region of their mafia-like activities then they are doing the galaxy a favour, and themselves.


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Posted - 2003.07.18 14:42:00 - [231]

Does someone need a reason to wipe out a criminal alliance? the STAIN alliance are crying out for war they threaten every pilot who goes through the system.

Completely agree with above post.

Edited by: xzarax on 18/07/2003 14:43:13
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Does someone need a reason to wipe out a criminal alliance? the STAIN alliance are crying out for war they threaten every pilot who goes through the system.

Completely agree with above post.

Edited by: xzarax on 18/07/2003 14:43:13
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"We will press all your cruiser"

Boy, everybody hates wrinkly cruisers!


*English isnt the author's first language, I know...I just thought the comment kinda funny.

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"We will press all your cruiser"

Boy, everybody hates wrinkly cruisers!


*English isnt the author's first language, I know...I just thought the comment kinda funny.

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Posted - 2003.07.18 14:47:00 - [235]

I was part of the SA not long ago :) they asked people to leave nicely before starting any conflicts.. there is a stain webby with ROE which was to be followed, I assure you nobody was just shot at, From what i understand robin opened fire on mass members then come on the forum shouting his mouth off... Personel i dont think rus stand a chance in stain, they made abit of a name for themselfs using the same bugged weapons mo0 used but bigger ones... and thats why they won. RUS if stain do pay you the stuff you want there either blind or stupid as if it come to it I dont think you would stand much of a chance, your out numbered and out gunned .. thats my two cents anyhow
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I was part of the SA not long ago :) they asked people to leave nicely before starting any conflicts.. there is a stain webby with ROE which was to be followed, I assure you nobody was just shot at, From what i understand robin opened fire on mass members then come on the forum shouting his mouth off... Personel i dont think rus stand a chance in stain, they made abit of a name for themselfs using the same bugged weapons mo0 used but bigger ones... and thats why they won. RUS if stain do pay you the stuff you want there either blind or stupid as if it come to it I dont think you would stand much of a chance, your out numbered and out gunned .. thats my two cents anyhow
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Posted - 2003.07.18 14:59:00 - [237]

I fail to see why people hate the Stain Alliance/Mass so much. Yes you may have been threatened if you did not follow the rules or have permission to enter the region.

Is it really that hard to just write an EveMail requesting entrance to the Stain region? No, I didnt think so.

If you did not have permission to enter, disobeyed the rules, and failed to respond to their messages then ya, you diserve to be driven out. If you retaliate by firing you diserve to be treated the same.

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I fail to see why people hate the Stain Alliance/Mass so much. Yes you may have been threatened if you did not follow the rules or have permission to enter the region.

Is it really that hard to just write an EveMail requesting entrance to the Stain region? No, I didnt think so.

If you did not have permission to enter, disobeyed the rules, and failed to respond to their messages then ya, you diserve to be driven out. If you retaliate by firing you diserve to be treated the same.

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Posted - 2003.07.18 15:09:00 - [239]

Why, Dear Athule, but its the Right of Might, of course. It they want to hold that area of space for themselves and their allies, more power to them.

Now if someone with more Might, aka RUS, wants to push them out and claim the space for their own, or for everyone else, then ok, I can deal with that.

But don't cloak the reason for the war behind smoke and mirrors. Call it what it is. Near as I can tell the SA was honoring the agreements they had with RUS. RUS just decided that wasn't good enough anymore.

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Why, Dear Athule, but its the Right of Might, of course. It they want to hold that area of space for themselves and their allies, more power to them.

Now if someone with more Might, aka RUS, wants to push them out and claim the space for their own, or for everyone else, then ok, I can deal with that.

But don't cloak the reason for the war behind smoke and mirrors. Call it what it is. Near as I can tell the SA was honoring the agreements they had with RUS. RUS just decided that wasn't good enough anymore.

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OOC:

Bleh, this thread isn't working anymore. Page 7 doesn't show up unless you are browsing all the topics

Edited by: Bonepart on 18/07/2003 15:20:06

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OOC:

Bleh, this thread isn't working anymore. Page 7 doesn't show up unless you are browsing all the topics

Edited by: Bonepart on 18/07/2003 15:20:06

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Posted - 2003.07.18 15:18:00 - [243]

dont any of you undrstand the legitimacy of power? or even brute force? that is the reason we, in the Stain Alliance, can say "this is ours".

i dont think a surrendur is in the cards for the SA either. even if we wanted to, which we dont, surrenduring once would bring all the little girl corps over and they would start demanding stuff too.

so i hope you like running over to stain and fighting us on our home turf, where we have the ammo dumps, shipyards and the support of 100's of people.

personally i think most people hate the SA cuz they are jealous... weve seen quite a few others adopt the same type of model as the SA. At least we dont shoot first, ask questions later like Venal. We do try to be civil about it.


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dont any of you undrstand the legitimacy of power? or even brute force? that is the reason we, in the Stain Alliance, can say "this is ours".

i dont think a surrendur is in the cards for the SA either. even if we wanted to, which we dont, surrenduring once would bring all the little girl corps over and they would start demanding stuff too.

so i hope you like running over to stain and fighting us on our home turf, where we have the ammo dumps, shipyards and the support of 100's of people.

personally i think most people hate the SA cuz they are jealous... weve seen quite a few others adopt the same type of model as the SA. At least we dont shoot first, ask questions later like Venal. We do try to be civil about it.
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Athule Snanm:

"by what right had Stain to make these 'laws' - they are not a legitimate authority. Their 'laws' are in fact illegal and if RUS clears the region of their mafia-like activities then they are doing the galaxy a favour, and themselves."

What are you talking about? Stain is all 0.0 space, the guy with the biggest guns makes the rules. There's no legal or illegal out there.
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Athule Snanm:

"by what right had Stain to make these 'laws' - they are not a legitimate authority. Their 'laws' are in fact illegal and if RUS clears the region of their mafia-like activities then they are doing the galaxy a favour, and themselves."

What are you talking about? Stain is all 0.0 space, the guy with the biggest guns makes the rules. There's no legal or illegal out there.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 15:24:00 - [247]

Rumors... Nothing but rumors.

Facts:

- We have had a period asking people to leave Venal.
- We can arrange passes / NAPs for individuals / corps for Venal.
- We usualy ask intruders we see for the first time to leave Venal and warn them to not enter again.

The Venal Alliance is not a bunch of trigger happy cowboys.

Why don't you stainies just stay in Stain and shut the **** up. I have seen many of you causing trouble in Pure Blind and Venal, so I am not wondering why you might encountered "shoot first - ask later."
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
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Rumors... Nothing but rumors.

Facts:

- We have had a period asking people to leave Venal.
- We can arrange passes / NAPs for individuals / corps for Venal.
- We usualy ask intruders we see for the first time to leave Venal and warn them to not enter again.

The Venal Alliance is not a bunch of trigger happy cowboys.

Why don't you stainies just stay in Stain and shut the **** up. I have seen many of you causing trouble in Pure Blind and Venal, so I am not wondering why you might encountered "shoot first - ask later."
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
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"....Bring the bships, We will kill them, now that your guns suck as bad as ours do."

LOL

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"....Bring the bships, We will kill them, now that your guns suck as bad as ours do."

LOL

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Interesting to see the all-time goody-goodies RUS are turning into meanies.
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Interesting to see the all-time goody-goodies RUS are turning into meanies.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:13:00 - [253]

j0rt Im pure evil...

oh no.. whats hapening.. the horns started growing.. Im.. Im.. begining to transform into... a... m0oo0o00o0oo0....

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j0rt Im pure evil...

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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:14:00 - [255]

Ah pipe down j0rt ^

I don't see why people would blame either side in this conflict. STAIN made rules that they expect to be followed. RUS doesn't like those rules, and whether they broke them on purpose or accidently doesn't matter. RUS has the firepower and the manpower to back up any action. I am not affiliated to either side, but RUS gets my vote in this one _just_ because they had the balls to talk trash and threaten an alliance of hundreds of people. How many of you out there could do the same, then back up your words with military power? Maybe TTI has the firepower, but they are not interested in things that don't profit them.

RUS is living quite well to its reputation. Ever since beta after having witnessed a small gang of RUS frigates decimate a fleet of cruisers, I've been cautious whenever I see one. Other than m0o, I think they're the only corp out there actually willing to risk and use battleships in an all-out war..

Good for them, and good for STAIN for bringing some spice into this normally bland existance in eve.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:14:00 - [256]

Ah pipe down j0rt ^

I don't see why people would blame either side in this conflict. STAIN made rules that they expect to be followed. RUS doesn't like those rules, and whether they broke them on purpose or accidently doesn't matter. RUS has the firepower and the manpower to back up any action. I am not affiliated to either side, but RUS gets my vote in this one _just_ because they had the balls to talk trash and threaten an alliance of hundreds of people. How many of you out there could do the same, then back up your words with military power? Maybe TTI has the firepower, but they are not interested in things that don't profit them.

RUS is living quite well to its reputation. Ever since beta after having witnessed a small gang of RUS frigates decimate a fleet of cruisers, I've been cautious whenever I see one. Other than m0o, I think they're the only corp out there actually willing to risk and use battleships in an all-out war..

Good for them, and good for STAIN for bringing some spice into this normally bland existance in eve.


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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:22:00 - [257]

No1 was claiming anything , ronin was hunting , blackviper blew up hes cargo , Ronin blew up their(MASS corp) "mining" Maller , wich was camping the gate with 2 battleships...
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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:22:00 - [258]

No1 was claiming anything , ronin was hunting , blackviper blew up hes cargo , Ronin blew up their(MASS corp) "mining" Maller , wich was camping the gate with 2 battleships...








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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:30:00 - [259]

Just fight it out already :)

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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:30:00 - [260]

Just fight it out already :)
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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:38:00 - [261]

Why do you want war to begin? What will you have from it? If you hope that war would begin at same day conflict began, you're wrong. So, no actions today, that's for sure.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:38:00 - [262]

Why do you want war to begin? What will you have from it? If you hope that war would begin at same day conflict began, you're wrong. So, no actions today, that's for sure.
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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:48:00 - [263]

LOL :)
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Posted - 2003.07.18 16:48:00 - [264]

LOL :)








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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:08:00 - [265]

Ronin clearly a big coward to attack and kill a mining ship, that thinks hes friendly. To suddenly decide you're going to change your standing to another corp and kill a mining ship without declarding you're no longer friendly is utter cowardness. What a hero.
Rest assured the cowardly Russians will be dealt with, and be under no illusions, they are no match for Stain.
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Ronin clearly a big coward to attack and kill a mining ship, that thinks hes friendly. To suddenly decide you're going to change your standing to another corp and kill a mining ship without declarding you're no longer friendly is utter cowardness. What a hero.
Rest assured the cowardly Russians will be dealt with, and be under no illusions, they are no match for Stain.


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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:11:00 - [267]

Hmmm...Honestly I hope they do go to war...and I hope they both wipe each other out...mihgt actually create a teeny demand for ships or ammo etc. Not to mention a hurting mega corp/alliance makes it easier for new players and corps to try and break into the market and whatnot.

Also makes pirating alot easier not having to worry so much about being blown to hell by a large omnipotent force hehe

Hey....how do I get my avatar pic to show up?

Edited by: Spike Spiegel on 18/07/2003 17:11:58

aha nm got it

Edited by: Spike Spiegel on 18/07/2003 17:18:35
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Hmmm...Honestly I hope they do go to war...and I hope they both wipe each other out...mihgt actually create a teeny demand for ships or ammo etc. Not to mention a hurting mega corp/alliance makes it easier for new players and corps to try and break into the market and whatnot.

Also makes pirating alot easier not having to worry so much about being blown to hell by a large omnipotent force hehe

Hey....how do I get my avatar pic to show up?

Edited by: Spike Spiegel on 18/07/2003 17:11:58

aha nm got it

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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:14:00 - [269]

just to create a picture of MASS...
i had just made an alt...
an gallente researcher...
was moving her to the system of my research labs...
then i pass up to a gate, and a MASS member locks me, and fire!...
no warning, no nothing... i was in noob ship... i asked if i could pass, as it would only be a waste of bullets killing me... "no"... i asked if i could pass in an egg... "no"... so all i have to say is that any MASS member is KOS from me.. what else can i do when they just shoot off on me without warnings...

PS: this episode was NOT in stain... so i wasnt tresspassing...

Edited by: pYlette on 18/07/2003 17:16:23
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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:14:00 - [270]

just to create a picture of MASS...
i had just made an alt...
an gallente researcher...
was moving her to the system of my research labs...
then i pass up to a gate, and a MASS member locks me, and fire!...
no warning, no nothing... i was in noob ship... i asked if i could pass, as it would only be a waste of bullets killing me... "no"... i asked if i could pass in an egg... "no"... so all i have to say is that any MASS member is KOS from me.. what else can i do when they just shoot off on me without warnings...

PS: this episode was NOT in stain... so i wasnt tresspassing...

Edited by: pYlette on 18/07/2003 17:16:23
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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:24:00 - [271]

Here's what reallu happened.

I know I'm the HQ Security Officer who asked RUS Copr CEO RONIN to leave HQ last night...

Here's a bit of my talks with him...

Ecliptical MSG to RONIN> RONIN as you know I'm under orders to allow only one member of your corp here, Technolisa, so I would ask you to please leave...

to which he responded...

2003.07.18 06:58:00
thats mean NAP with stain aliance finished? And we can kill you all? ŲŲCEO RUS corp

then I said in pvt msg to him...

You could try that, but you know the uggliness that would start. I would hope we can avoid all that, and me I'm just an officer passing on the orders that were given to me, if you dont like them, I cannot do anything about them, however u can talk to my CEO Trigger about them...

To which he replied 2x quickly...

2003.07.18 07:09:00
i can fly anywhere and nobody haven't rights to do forbid me it

2003.07.18 07:11:00
Thats all my answers to you. if you have more ask my Consul Technolisa. One lock from your members will mean WAR

Well after this it all went downhill...

I ordered everyone not to lock him but keep tabs on what he was doing. We had person just tracking his movements from a distance, not engaging, or showing threatning posture.

A couple of minutes of jumping around our belts and planets, he came to exit gate from our HQ (there's only one), alocked and open fire on a maller sitting at a distance, (GRILK) which was only setp for mining, as this is what this particular person does most. He destroyed that ship quickly, then both me and KiLeak another Mass member, opened fire on him, we took down his shields quickly and were already starting to do heavy dmg when he ran out (jumped) to a neighboor system, we followed, be he had logged...

This is the extent of what happened.

I urged him not to start this, but be assured WE ARE NOT SCARED, NOR WE'LL PAY ANY AMOUNT OF ISK FOR THIS BULL.

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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:24:00 - [272]

oh please put up names if you gunna make staments like that....

and tec i am a miner and have no fighting skill your ceo knows that as he killed me in a hole 3 seconds ... and as for what i do in my own system is all up to me...

and we allways have guard duty its our system ofcorse we have someone at the gate

please get your ceo undercontrol no one ever locked or fired unpon him he did all the firing you are a resaonable person i know but your ceo is a bit fire happy

we will pay no mega and will protect our system.....

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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:24:00 - [273]

Here's what reallu happened.

I know I'm the HQ Security Officer who asked RUS Copr CEO RONIN to leave HQ last night...

Here's a bit of my talks with him...

Ecliptical MSG to RONIN> RONIN as you know I'm under orders to allow only one member of your corp here, Technolisa, so I would ask you to please leave...

to which he responded...

2003.07.18 06:58:00
thats mean NAP with stain aliance finished? And we can kill you all? „„CEO RUS corp

then I said in pvt msg to him...

You could try that, but you know the uggliness that would start. I would hope we can avoid all that, and me I'm just an officer passing on the orders that were given to me, if you dont like them, I cannot do anything about them, however u can talk to my CEO Trigger about them...

To which he replied 2x quickly...

2003.07.18 07:09:00
i can fly anywhere and nobody haven't rights to do forbid me it

2003.07.18 07:11:00
Thats all my answers to you. if you have more ask my Consul Technolisa. One lock from your members will mean WAR

Well after this it all went downhill...

I ordered everyone not to lock him but keep tabs on what he was doing. We had person just tracking his movements from a distance, not engaging, or showing threatning posture.

A couple of minutes of jumping around our belts and planets, he came to exit gate from our HQ (there's only one), alocked and open fire on a maller sitting at a distance, (GRILK) which was only setp for mining, as this is what this particular person does most. He destroyed that ship quickly, then both me and KiLeak another Mass member, opened fire on him, we took down his shields quickly and were already starting to do heavy dmg when he ran out (jumped) to a neighboor system, we followed, be he had logged...

This is the extent of what happened.

I urged him not to start this, but be assured WE ARE NOT SCARED, NOR WE'LL PAY ANY AMOUNT OF ISK FOR THIS BULL.

Ecliptical, Military HQ Security, Security Officer, MASS Corp.
"They call me WitchDoctor Lifter of CURSE's"

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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:24:00 - [274]

oh please put up names if you gunna make staments like that....

and tec i am a miner and have no fighting skill your ceo knows that as he killed me in a hole 3 seconds ... and as for what i do in my own system is all up to me...

and we allways have guard duty its our system ofcorse we have someone at the gate

please get your ceo undercontrol no one ever locked or fired unpon him he did all the firing you are a resaonable person i know but your ceo is a bit fire happy

we will pay no mega and will protect our system.....

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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:26:00 - [275]

can i get tickets?
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can i get tickets?
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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:29:00 - [277]

pylette.. plz give me the MASS members name. we had a few rouges that have since left MASS.

As with any corp, u will always have Those that just want blood. Mass Nor the Stain alliance are about killing with out Provocation.





Edited by: BlackViper on 18/07/2003 17:32:36


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I've heard of 3 X-Trading Company members that the X-Trading Company is going to leave the Stain Alliance... That true?
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
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Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:29:00 - [279]

pylette.. plz give me the MASS members name. we had a few rouges that have since left MASS.

As with any corp, u will always have Those that just want blood. Mass Nor the Stain alliance are about killing with out Provocation.





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I've heard of 3 X-Trading Company members that the X-Trading Company is going to leave the Stain Alliance... That true?
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Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
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Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships
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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:58:00 - [281]

1manarmy i believe was his name...
1something atleast
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Posted - 2003.07.18 17:58:00 - [282]

1manarmy i believe was his name...
1something atleast
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Posted - 2003.07.18 18:06:00 - [283]

really guys, RUS is probally just bored to tears with noone to kill and figure SA would be a good way to spice up their eve lives;p


hell, i was on the verge of quitting before i turned 'rat cause i was so damn bored, wouldnt be at all surprised if RUS is doing the same thing.
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really guys, RUS is probally just bored to tears with noone to kill and figure SA would be a good way to spice up their eve lives;p


hell, i was on the verge of quitting before i turned 'rat cause i was so damn bored, wouldnt be at all surprised if RUS is doing the same thing.
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pYlette

1man army was kickt out of MASS. I dont know if it was temporarly or for good but he was a lose canon :/

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pYlette

1man army was kickt out of MASS. I dont know if it was temporarly or for good but he was a lose canon :/

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Posted - 2003.07.18 19:19:00 - [287]

I think everyone here (MASS and RUS) needs to calm down and get a grip on things. Let the CEO's work it out and work together. I have always felt that RUS was a fair level-headed corp. and I know from experience that the Stain Alliance is friendly to those who are friendly, so I know that this situation can be resolved.

If not, it will take a hell of a lot more than just a few corps to press the Alliance out of Stain. We are several hundred strong with lots of friends who see that we are trying to make this game more than a mining, NPC hunting game.

So let's just try and get along, and not get over anxious. If you can't then don't come to Stain, whats the big deal. There's nothing here all that special anyways.

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I think everyone here (MASS and RUS) needs to calm down and get a grip on things. Let the CEO's work it out and work together. I have always felt that RUS was a fair level-headed corp. and I know from experience that the Stain Alliance is friendly to those who are friendly, so I know that this situation can be resolved.

If not, it will take a hell of a lot more than just a few corps to press the Alliance out of Stain. We are several hundred strong with lots of friends who see that we are trying to make this game more than a mining, NPC hunting game.

So let's just try and get along, and not get over anxious. If you can't then don't come to Stain, whats the big deal. There's nothing here all that special anyways.

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Posted - 2003.07.18 19:24:00 - [289]

Well I read thru page 5... ;)

Not having ever entered Stain (cos I have not mined in beta or release anything above gneiss before and to get a rifter and then plag/pyro/scord for ammo mins ;) cos I hate mining) I have no clue about any of the participants ;)

But - I will say :( used to think RUS was "Rodents of Unusualy Size"

Before you take umbrage :) I got that from "The Princess Bride", a kick-butt flick especially if you like fantasy and medieval legeneds etc.

Shoulda known cos that was: R.U.S. actually ;P

Of course Rus makes sense seeing as the people in some parts of Russia were KNOWN as the Rus (hence likely "Rus-sian" if my fuzzy memory serves me right (believe in Crichton's book "Eaters of the Dead" the protaganist travelled amoung them on his journey too)

So in the words of that great Editorialist of old, Emily Litella:

"Oh...nevermind"
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Posted - 2003.07.18 19:24:00 - [290]

Well I read thru page 5... ;)

Not having ever entered Stain (cos I have not mined in beta or release anything above gneiss before and to get a rifter and then plag/pyro/scord for ammo mins ;) cos I hate mining) I have no clue about any of the participants ;)

But - I will say :( used to think RUS was "Rodents of Unusualy Size"

Before you take umbrage :) I got that from "The Princess Bride", a kick-butt flick especially if you like fantasy and medieval legeneds etc.

Shoulda known cos that was: R.U.S. actually ;P

Of course Rus makes sense seeing as the people in some parts of Russia were KNOWN as the Rus (hence likely "Rus-sian" if my fuzzy memory serves me right (believe in Crichton's book "Eaters of the Dead" the protaganist travelled amoung them on his journey too)

So in the words of that great Editorialist of old, Emily Litella:

"Oh...nevermind"
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Posted - 2003.07.18 19:49:00 - [291]

Looks like GW 1 in Eve is a fact.. took longer then i thought ;)

(mk players know what i mean :)
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Looks like GW 1 in Eve is a fact.. took longer then i thought ;)

(mk players know what i mean :)
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Posted - 2003.07.18 20:26:00 - [293]

I have no idea what the size of RUS is, but with all these posts and a whole lot of Stain Alliance members, you can bet that something accidental sure may result from this.

And for the record, Stain has proven to be friendly to an awful lot of corps, that probably wouldnt mind mining in RUS' area. Perhaps its time those people had some extra territory eh?

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I have no idea what the size of RUS is, but with all these posts and a whole lot of Stain Alliance members, you can bet that something accidental sure may result from this.

And for the record, Stain has proven to be friendly to an awful lot of corps, that probably wouldnt mind mining in RUS' area. Perhaps its time those people had some extra territory eh?





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Posted - 2003.07.18 20:55:00 - [295]

Hi CoRM. Ń alliance forever ,-)!

Looking at the "what really happened" post:

1) er, ok, if you cannot understand why logically posting "what really happened" when you were a primary involved party is invalid, i can't help you - but i *do* see that's your side of things.

2) i have a sneaking suspicion there was a serious translation problem. And i'm sorry, but you excaberated the whole mess. Look what happened:

his response to you was "NAP over?" That should have been a warning flag to you. Whether for real or not, you should have considered the possibility that *he didn't get what you were saying.* Instead of being clear and simple, however, you responded with a long string of complicated verbiage - very much IC and admirable and, had it been me, i would have gotten the point straight off. But Ron1n might not have.

I certainly don't think he should have blasted anyone, especially if - if this is true - none of you locked him, and merely followed him about.

However, you may wish to consider the possibility that he misunderstood, and that your warning of existing terms was taken as a "**** off we don't like you any more and we're breaking the deal." Doesn't excuse toasting a noncombatant, of course.

And i don't understand how he needs reimbursement since he didn't lose anything...



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Hi CoRM. Ń alliance forever ,-)!

Looking at the "what really happened" post:

1) er, ok, if you cannot understand why logically posting "what really happened" when you were a primary involved party is invalid, i can't help you - but i *do* see that's your side of things.

2) i have a sneaking suspicion there was a serious translation problem. And i'm sorry, but you excaberated the whole mess. Look what happened:

his response to you was "NAP over?" That should have been a warning flag to you. Whether for real or not, you should have considered the possibility that *he didn't get what you were saying.* Instead of being clear and simple, however, you responded with a long string of complicated verbiage - very much IC and admirable and, had it been me, i would have gotten the point straight off. But Ron1n might not have.

I certainly don't think he should have blasted anyone, especially if - if this is true - none of you locked him, and merely followed him about.

However, you may wish to consider the possibility that he misunderstood, and that your warning of existing terms was taken as a "**** off we don't like you any more and we're breaking the deal." Doesn't excuse toasting a noncombatant, of course.

And i don't understand how he needs reimbursement since he didn't lose anything...
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Posted - 2003.07.18 21:41:00 - [297]

I thought it was pretty clear that Ronin was just looking to pick a fight. The entire scenario is almost one big cliche

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Posted - 2003.07.18 21:41:00 - [298]

I thought it was pretty clear that Ronin was just looking to pick a fight. The entire scenario is almost one big cliche

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Rust said:
"Better than not knowing what you are talking about I suppose."

You going to take that from a man who thinks the CIA existed during World War 2??

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Rust said:
"Better than not knowing what you are talking about I suppose."

You going to take that from a man who thinks the CIA existed during World War 2??

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Posted - 2003.07.18 22:00:00 - [301]

See what happens when I go to work?

Everything falls apart.

j/k

I'm sure RUS and SA can sort it out - I agree with Bad Harlequin; it's probably just a silly translation error.

SA are a peaceful alliance - we only use force where absolutely necessary and, I'm sure you all know, most are well capable of supplying the force :)


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See what happens when I go to work?

Everything falls apart.

j/k

I'm sure RUS and SA can sort it out - I agree with Bad Harlequin; it's probably just a silly translation error.

SA are a peaceful alliance - we only use force where absolutely necessary and, I'm sure you all know, most are well capable of supplying the force :)
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fight, dont fight..wont mess with the freelancing people
probly make us some extra cash
someone has to respully these corp's with ore while all their people's are fighting

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Posted - 2003.07.18 23:16:00 - [304]

fight, dont fight..wont mess with the freelancing people
probly make us some extra cash
someone has to respully these corp's with ore while all their people's are fighting

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Posted - 2003.07.18 23:41:00 - [305]

HAHA DEATH TO THE M00 AND STAIN ALLIANCE!!!!

GO RUS GO GO GO!
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Posted - 2003.07.18 23:41:00 - [306]

HAHA DEATH TO THE M00 AND STAIN ALLIANCE!!!!

GO RUS GO GO GO!
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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:00:00 - [307]

"HAHA DEATH TO THE M00 AND STAIN ALLIANCE!!!!

GO RUS GO GO GO!"

How pathetic.
I know very well how powerful RUS are(I've been talking to them and seen their battleships).
But to think that RUS could go to Stain and start a real war...
Think for your self. Of course they can make the trip to Stain with a fleet. And they can attack SA members when they spot them outside Stain. But a large war in Stain against the alliance would require huge numbers and a large supply of ships/equipment/ammo inside Stain, which is impossible.

Considering the strenght of the corps, and what a small incident that led to this, I would guess there will be no war, and no payments either.


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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:00:00 - [308]

"HAHA DEATH TO THE M00 AND STAIN ALLIANCE!!!!

GO RUS GO GO GO!"

How pathetic.
I know very well how powerful RUS are(I've been talking to them and seen their battleships).
But to think that RUS could go to Stain and start a real war...
Think for your self. Of course they can make the trip to Stain with a fleet. And they can attack SA members when they spot them outside Stain. But a large war in Stain against the alliance would require huge numbers and a large supply of ships/equipment/ammo inside Stain, which is impossible.

Considering the strenght of the corps, and what a small incident that led to this, I would guess there will be no war, and no payments either.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:07:00 - [309]

Rust, a little late, i know, but you're an idiot.

The CIA was formed in the 50's to deal with the KGB and GRU. At the time the only intelligence ops in the pacific were run by the Navy, and they did know that the japonese were coming. Roosevelt wanted to enter the war but knew he couldn't without the support of the American people. Pearl Harbor was to the US Government what Convetry was to Churchill, a necessary evil to bring out the better good.

btw, Go Rus!

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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:07:00 - [310]

Rust, a little late, i know, but you're an idiot.

The CIA was formed in the 50's to deal with the KGB and GRU. At the time the only intelligence ops in the pacific were run by the Navy, and they did know that the japonese were coming. Roosevelt wanted to enter the war but knew he couldn't without the support of the American people. Pearl Harbor was to the US Government what Convetry was to Churchill, a necessary evil to bring out the better good.

btw, Go Rus!

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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:10:00 - [311]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
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FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:13:00 - [313]

yeah, what Stavr0s said
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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:13:00 - [314]

AAAYYYEEE!



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AAAYYYEEE!



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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:13:00 - [316]

yeah, what Stavr0s said


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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:22:00 - [317]

If you read the thread you will see that Molly did not make it clear that she was refering to the second world war. She merely said that the President of the United States was aware of the attack.

I was being whimsical by supposing that he might have been forwarned about the RUS attack, but had refrained from informing the Stain allience.

All things considered, I feel this is unlikely to have been the case.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:22:00 - [318]

If you read the thread you will see that Molly did not make it clear that she was refering to the second world war. She merely said that the President of the United States was aware of the attack.

I was being whimsical by supposing that he might have been forwarned about the RUS attack, but had refrained from informing the Stain allience.

All things considered, I feel this is unlikely to have been the case.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:52:00 - [319]

"Roosevelt wanted to enter the war but knew he couldn't without the support of the American people. Pearl Harbor was to the US Government what Convetry was to Churchill, a necessary evil to bring out the better good."

This is really more an urban myth created and propagated by Americans who can't accept that an outside power and so throughy and completly******them as the Japanese did during Peral Harbor.

Just think, if the Americans knew and had prepared for the attack and owned the Japanese as they attacked, what they won't have gone to war then? Ofcourse they would have, you don't need to be totally humilated in an attack to go to war, just have to be attacked.

Concerning the topic at hand, It will be nice to have a major corp war between RUS and Stain. Lets hope it spreads with allies and others jumping in.

Edited by: Nephlite on 19/07/2003 00:53:52
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Posted - 2003.07.19 00:52:00 - [320]

"Roosevelt wanted to enter the war but knew he couldn't without the support of the American people. Pearl Harbor was to the US Government what Convetry was to Churchill, a necessary evil to bring out the better good."

This is really more an urban myth created and propagated by Americans who can't accept that an outside power and so throughy and completly *****them as the Japanese did during Peral Harbor.

Just think, if the Americans knew and had prepared for the attack and owned the Japanese as they attacked, what they won't have gone to war then? Ofcourse they would have, you don't need to be totally humilated in an attack to go to war, just have to be attacked.

Concerning the topic at hand, It will be nice to have a major corp war between RUS and Stain. Lets hope it spreads with allies and others jumping in.

Edited by: Nephlite on 19/07/2003 00:53:52
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Posted - 2003.07.19 01:03:00 - [321]

/me chuckles to myself


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Posted - 2003.07.19 01:03:00 - [322]

/me chuckles to myself


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Posted - 2003.07.19 01:29:00 - [323]

Roosevelt wanted to enter the war but knew he couldn't without the support of the American people. Pearl Harbor was to the US Government what Convetry was to Churchill, a necessary evil to bring out the better good."

Not quite an urban myth but close, a jap attack was expected and several ships where kept at sea for extended time mostly the navyss aircraft carryers and largest battle ships roosevelt and the DOD dident want to keep every thing in one port and mostly kept the most valuble ships at sea, they knew nothing of the time of the atack or even if it was going to happen but they expected and where stretegecly prepared for it.


And i have alota respect for RUS but they must realize what there geting into and i hope this will come to a peacful ending if not..... no big deal its a damm game, Good luck RUS.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 01:29:00 - [324]

Roosevelt wanted to enter the war but knew he couldn't without the support of the American people. Pearl Harbor was to the US Government what Convetry was to Churchill, a necessary evil to bring out the better good."

Not quite an urban myth but close, a jap attack was expected and several ships where kept at sea for extended time mostly the navyss aircraft carryers and largest battle ships roosevelt and the DOD dident want to keep every thing in one port and mostly kept the most valuble ships at sea, they knew nothing of the time of the atack or even if it was going to happen but they expected and where stretegecly prepared for it.


And i have alota respect for RUS but they must realize what there geting into and i hope this will come to a peacful ending if not..... no big deal its a damm game, Good luck RUS.

-Proud member of Everlasting Vendetta
and the SA

*not speaking on behalf of EV*

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Posted - 2003.07.19 02:26:00 - [325]

ouch RUS... what happened? how many battleships can you afford to lose?


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Posted - 2003.07.19 02:26:00 - [326]

ouch RUS... what happened? how many battleships can you afford to lose?
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Posted - 2003.07.19 02:33:00 - [327]

suss crimsom hehe dont tell them anithing ;)



Edited by: Random on 19/07/2003 02:40:04
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suss crimsom hehe dont tell them anithing ;)



Edited by: Random on 19/07/2003 02:40:04



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Posted - 2003.07.19 02:41:00 - [329]

OOoo..battleships lost?
bha..Ill believe it when I see screenshots

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Posted - 2003.07.19 02:41:00 - [330]

OOoo..battleships lost?
bha..Ill believe it when I see screenshots

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Posted - 2003.07.19 02:56:00 - [331]

im not sure if someone got screenshots... sorry i was too busy. and personally i dont care whether u beleive me or not. RUS knows they got taken... thats what i care about. grats to Trigger and his crew for spearheading that!


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Posted - 2003.07.19 02:56:00 - [332]

im not sure if someone got screenshots... sorry i was too busy. and personally i dont care whether u beleive me or not. RUS knows they got taken... thats what i care about. grats to Trigger and his crew for spearheading that!
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Posted - 2003.07.19 04:03:00 - [333]

I was a mass guy and i support everythign they do i know they will do the right thing and i know that they handled that situation with utmost professionalism they were always makin me be nice even when i didnt want to. Mass and the Stain alliance are all good guys and hella good fighters Trigger/Mass/SA u have my support and my guns if u need them.




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I was a mass guy and i support everythign they do i know they will do the right thing and i know that they handled that situation with utmost professionalism they were always makin me be nice even when i didnt want to. Mass and the Stain alliance are all good guys and hella good fighters Trigger/Mass/SA u have my support and my guns if u need them.



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Posted - 2003.07.19 04:06:00 - [335]

Much has been written, very interesting reading to be honest. Do RUS stand alone, perhaps not. Do RUS have allies, maybe they do. Is there going to be a war, perhaps.

It appears Stain are scared of one corp. Granted RUS are probably the most powerful corp around, but scared of one corp? they discredit themselves.

Is the situation beyond compromise? Thats up to the leaders.....

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Edited by: Dr Gonzo on 19/07/2003 04:18:52


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Much has been written, very interesting reading to be honest. Do RUS stand alone, perhaps not. Do RUS have allies, maybe they do. Is there going to be a war, perhaps.

It appears Stain are scared of one corp. Granted RUS are probably the most powerful corp around, but scared of one corp? they discredit themselves.

Is the situation beyond compromise? Thats up to the leaders.....

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
"Forward, the Light Brigade!
"Charge for the guns!" he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

Edited by: Dr Gonzo on 19/07/2003 04:18:52


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Posted - 2003.07.19 05:26:00 - [337]

Nothing serios happened. Yes, I can confirm that tonight we had collision of our millitary forces. There are small loses from each side. Sorry, but I can't say anything else right now.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 05:26:00 - [338]

Nothing serios happened. Yes, I can confirm that tonight we had collision of our millitary forces. There are small loses from each side. Sorry, but I can't say anything else right now.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 06:15:00 - [339]

Omega Corp has had friendly dealings in beta with RUS and in retail with a couple of it's members. However we are part of the Stain Alliance and will fully support the alliance in it's military ops against enemies of SA.


Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2003.07.19 06:15:00 - [340]

Omega Corp has had friendly dealings in beta with RUS and in retail with a couple of it's members. However we are part of the Stain Alliance and will fully support the alliance in it's military ops against enemies of SA.


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Not sure if the translator I used works good, but her, to you RUS:

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Not sure if the translator I used works good, but her, to you RUS:

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Posted - 2003.07.19 06:21:00 - [343]

RUS, your diplomacy sounds very worrisome.

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RUS, your diplomacy sounds very worrisome.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 07:20:00 - [345]

"Small losses"!


I truly wish there was a way of verifying RUS' massive losses without people relying on word of mouth.


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Posted - 2003.07.19 07:20:00 - [346]

"Small losses"!


I truly wish there was a way of verifying RUS' massive losses without people relying on word of mouth.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 08:16:00 - [347]

Exho, the translation is awefull :)
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Exho, the translation is awefull :)
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Posted - 2003.07.19 08:37:00 - [349]

nice another forum posting ruined...moderator please change the name to politics and "mass" manipulation during the second world war...

p.s. remember when this post was about what was actually going on between rus and the stain alliance....lol What is going on now?
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nice another forum posting ruined...moderator please change the name to politics and "mass" manipulation during the second world war...

p.s. remember when this post was about what was actually going on between rus and the stain alliance....lol What is going on now?
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Posted - 2003.07.19 09:11:00 - [351]

Ehxo
Minmatar
M3G4 Corp say

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Which to you lazy people out there in english is...

At last who - the one who is not scared attacks On the union of Colouring (stain) in their own territory. I always respected you РУС even if your English language - not that good, you sure have means, show us, who - the boss!

Edited by: Bugged on 19/07/2003 09:13:13

Edited by: Bugged on 19/07/2003 09:13:48
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Ehxo
Minmatar
M3G4 Corp say

Russian text removed, only english is allowed on the forums - Wrangler

Which to you lazy people out there in english is...

At last who - the one who is not scared attacks On the union of Colouring (stain) in their own territory. I always respected you РУС even if your English language - not that good, you sure have means, show us, who - the boss!

Edited by: Bugged on 19/07/2003 09:13:13

Edited by: Bugged on 19/07/2003 09:13:48
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Posted - 2003.07.19 09:28:00 - [355]

Sorry it came to this RUS, really like you as a corp but we will defend Stain.

Edited by: Archon Stormrage on 19/07/2003 10:39:10
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Sorry it came to this RUS, really like you as a corp but we will defend Stain.

Edited by: Archon Stormrage on 19/07/2003 10:39:10
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Posted - 2003.07.19 10:11:00 - [357]

I can't help but think even RUS is seriously outgunned here, thumbs up for keeping your backs straight though :)
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I can't help but think even RUS is seriously outgunned here, thumbs up for keeping your backs straight though :)

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Posted - 2003.07.19 10:29:00 - [359]

rus dont have many people us the other do....

with today guns more people = winner

can i be 150-200 km away the place you fight just to see the big boom? i pay 500k
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rus dont have many people us the other do....

with today guns more people = winner

can i be 150-200 km away the place you fight just to see the big boom? i pay 500k
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everybody dies

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everybody dies

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Posted - 2003.07.19 14:37:00 - [363]

I have it on a source that Rus went to Stain last night and got totally owned. I hear it was 5 to 1.
Rus loses some battleships, SA loses one cruiser.

Perhaps RUS should now ask for more money now?
hahahahah

Another case of a corp that "thinks" they are king of the hill.



Deathlok
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Posted - 2003.07.19 14:37:00 - [364]

I have it on a source that Rus went to Stain last night and got totally owned. I hear it was 5 to 1.
Rus loses some battleships, SA loses one cruiser.

Perhaps RUS should now ask for more money now?
hahahahah

Another case of a corp that "thinks" they are king of the hill.



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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:04:00 - [365]

Dammm...... bad time to go on vacation......
well good luck to Rus hope you dont get nailed to bad.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:04:00 - [366]

Dammm...... bad time to go on vacation......
well good luck to Rus hope you dont get nailed to bad.

-Proud Member of EV and SA
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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:19:00 - [367]

RUS Corp. CEO asked me to translate this statement:

Russian text removed, only english is allowed on the forums - Wrangler

As a result of last night battle both sides lost 1 Armagedon. Later there was destroied 5 cruisers and 2-3 Armagedons of MASS Corp, no losess on RUS Corp. side right now.


Edited by: Gurenus on 19/07/2003 15:32:48
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RUS Corp. CEO asked me to translate this statement:

Russian text removed, only english is allowed on the forums - Wrangler

As a result of last night battle both sides lost 1 Armagedon. Later there was destroied 5 cruisers and 2-3 Armagedons of MASS Corp, no losess on RUS Corp. side right now.


Edited by: Gurenus on 19/07/2003 15:32:48
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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:41:00 - [369]

LOL RUS, that was the biggest lie ever!!! i spoke to a RUS guy last night...
he was sitting in a station and was afraid to come out! he was asked if he wanted a lift back home in a BODY BAG!! hehe then he log... and SA says they lost nothing... gives us some screenies... before i belive.... i got screen shots that u losing... show me yours!

Good luck STAIN!!! they cannot win against u! remember that! (stain-alliance has 70 bs and over!)
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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:41:00 - [370]

LOL RUS, that was the biggest lie ever!!! i spoke to a RUS guy last night...
he was sitting in a station and was afraid to come out! he was asked if he wanted a lift back home in a BODY BAG!! hehe then he log... and SA says they lost nothing... gives us some screenies... before i belive.... i got screen shots that u losing... show me yours!

Good luck STAIN!!! they cannot win against u! remember that! (stain-alliance has 70 bs and over!)
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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:48:00 - [371]

If you have screenshots, why don't you post them? Or is it just RUS that need to prove their claims?
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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:48:00 - [372]

If you have screenshots, why don't you post them? Or is it just RUS that need to prove their claims?

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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:55:00 - [373]

If you ask screenshots than you don't know what is PvP in eve is. When you PvP have you ever thought about making sceenshot? It's insane. Your task is destroy opponent and not make screenshot of his death. And by the way only terrorists as I know making video records to prove that they realised terrorist act.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 15:55:00 - [374]

If you ask screenshots than you don't know what is PvP in eve is. When you PvP have you ever thought about making sceenshot? It's insane. Your task is destroy opponent and not make screenshot of his death. And by the way only terrorists as I know making video records to prove that they realised terrorist act.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 16:01:00 - [375]

true :)
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Posted - 2003.07.19 16:01:00 - [376]

true :)
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Posted - 2003.07.19 16:10:00 - [377]

Hmm i cannot believe that RUS hates STAIN alliance so bad, the corp im in is in the alliance. Weve ad encounters with ppl that werent meant to be in the region and the stain alliance ppl escorted them out nicely :D

I'm backing The Stain alliance 100% :D Becuz I'M IN IT =P
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Posted - 2003.07.19 16:10:00 - [378]

Hmm i cannot believe that RUS hates STAIN alliance so bad, the corp im in is in the alliance. Weve ad encounters with ppl that werent meant to be in the region and the stain alliance ppl escorted them out nicely :D

I'm backing The Stain alliance 100% :D Becuz I'M IN IT =P
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Posted - 2003.07.19 16:46:00 - [379]

Last news.
A few minutes ago RUS Corp. destroied 1 Apocalipsise an 3-4 cruisers of SA. Stay tuned.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 16:46:00 - [380]

Last news.
A few minutes ago RUS Corp. destroied 1 Apocalipsise an 3-4 cruisers of SA. Stay tuned.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 16:47:00 - [381]

"And by the way only terrorists as I know making video records to prove that they realised terrorist act."

As far as i know it's pretty common now to have imbedded reporters in the armed forces... (as well as imbedded lawyers, but that can cause things to go all wrong, when everyone starts shooting them instead of designated targets....)

Next time just get some newbie to tag along in the newbie frigate, for the sole purpose of pressing Print Screen while the fight lasts?... :s
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"And by the way only terrorists as I know making video records to prove that they realised terrorist act."

As far as i know it's pretty common now to have imbedded reporters in the armed forces... (as well as imbedded lawyers, but that can cause things to go all wrong, when everyone starts shooting them instead of designated targets....)

Next time just get some newbie to tag along in the newbie frigate, for the sole purpose of pressing Print Screen while the fight lasts?... :s
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:11:00 - [383]

I always thought of RUS corp being a good sport and never thought that they would resort to using propaganda and bold face lies to make them look like they did better than they did.
I know for a fact from a friend in the SA that as of lastnight RUS lost 3 Battleships 3 to 4 cruisers with one pod kill. SA had no loses.

you can take this as more lies or as more info. it's up to you
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:11:00 - [384]

I always thought of RUS corp being a good sport and never thought that they would resort to using propaganda and bold face lies to make them look like they did better than they did.
I know for a fact from a friend in the SA that as of lastnight RUS lost 3 Battleships 3 to 4 cruisers with one pod kill. SA had no loses.

you can take this as more lies or as more info. it's up to you
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:22:00 - [385]

We lost 2 BSs and 2 cruisers.
SA lost 5 BSs and near 7-10 cruisers.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:22:00 - [386]

We lost 2 BSs and 2 cruisers.
SA lost 5 BSs and near 7-10 cruisers.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:23:00 - [387]

Just FYI, the Roosevelt knowing about the attack on Pearl is still just an urban legend. And America did not keep its best ships out of Pearl...if you look at the scenes all of our best battleships were at Battleship Row on the morning of the 7th of December. One Battleship did make it to the mouth of the harbor before it too was sunk. The ships that were out were the carriers, and at the time, America had little respect for carriers, it was simply the fact that the rest of the world had begun embracing carriers that they decided to build 3. Whereas the battleship fleet was by far more extensive. And yes the carriers were out on extended practice but I believe the Enterprise was scheduled for docking that morning.

I cannot agree with anyone saying that Roosevelt let thousands of men die to draw us into a war. Like someone previously stated, if we had simply prepared for the surprise attack and fended it off, we would have our entire battleship fleet and the American public would still be for the war. Yes there would still be the Doves and peaceniks but the general public would have agreed w/ the war.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:23:00 - [388]

Just FYI, the Roosevelt knowing about the attack on Pearl is still just an urban legend. And America did not keep its best ships out of Pearl...if you look at the scenes all of our best battleships were at Battleship Row on the morning of the 7th of December. One Battleship did make it to the mouth of the harbor before it too was sunk. The ships that were out were the carriers, and at the time, America had little respect for carriers, it was simply the fact that the rest of the world had begun embracing carriers that they decided to build 3. Whereas the battleship fleet was by far more extensive. And yes the carriers were out on extended practice but I believe the Enterprise was scheduled for docking that morning.

I cannot agree with anyone saying that Roosevelt let thousands of men die to draw us into a war. Like someone previously stated, if we had simply prepared for the surprise attack and fended it off, we would have our entire battleship fleet and the American public would still be for the war. Yes there would still be the Doves and peaceniks but the general public would have agreed w/ the war.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:26:00 - [389]

Look if you want to talk about Pearl Harbour take it too another thread please.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:26:00 - [390]

Look if you want to talk about Pearl Harbour take it too another thread please.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:31:00 - [391]

Fog of war is fun isn't it folks. RUS v. Stain shoud be fun to watch. Brings to mind of an old video I saw from the old Black Storm Inc of an attack they did on an enemy, if everyone taped there combat i'd be a happy man.

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Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
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Fog of war is fun isn't it folks. RUS v. Stain shoud be fun to watch. Brings to mind of an old video I saw from the old Black Storm Inc of an attack they did on an enemy, if everyone taped there combat i'd be a happy man.

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[i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything
Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
b]
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:36:00 - [393]

We gave them their vodka didnt we? Oops, that was a moltov*****tail..

Seriosuly though..Ronin brought this all upon himself. He was allowed to hunt, he knew the rules..then what does he do? he starts mining. Starts getting lippy when warned and when approached he fired upon mass and runs, then demands meg and zydrine because of his ill doings LMAO; too much vodka Ronin? Ur russian mob tactics wont work here, sorry. As for the fighting over the last 2 days..it has been nothing but RUS running and logging after a few of their ships are destroyed...boring the defenders, then coming back out when the defenders have left or logged. Actions of cowards. RUS will soon stand for RUS Underestimated Stain. It was fun doing business with ya RUS, while it lasted.



Edited by: Graffix on 19/07/2003 17:37:21
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:36:00 - [394]

We gave them their vodka didnt we? Oops, that was a moltov*****tail..

Seriosuly though..Ronin brought this all upon himself. He was allowed to hunt, he knew the rules..then what does he do? he starts mining. Starts getting lippy when warned and when approached he fired upon mass and runs, then demands meg and zydrine because of his ill doings LMAO; too much vodka Ronin? Ur russian mob tactics wont work here, sorry. As for the fighting over the last 2 days..it has been nothing but RUS running and logging after a few of their ships are destroyed...boring the defenders, then coming back out when the defenders have left or logged. Actions of cowards. RUS will soon stand for RUS Underestimated Stain. It was fun doing business with ya RUS, while it lasted.



Edited by: Graffix on 19/07/2003 17:37:21
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Posted - 2003.07.19 17:49:00 - [395]

<<....he starts mining>>
LOL
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<<....he starts mining>>
LOL
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Posted - 2003.07.19 18:10:00 - [397]

I'm very hesitant to believe any of these statistics RUS has provided us with... i remember two years ago in my history class we did a lesson about how both sides manipulate their battle reports to make it sound like they did better than they really did.

What we REALLY need is one of you reporter types to tag along and give an impartial report as to what happens during the next few skirmishes... assuming there will be more skirmishes of course.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 18:10:00 - [398]

I'm very hesitant to believe any of these statistics RUS has provided us with... i remember two years ago in my history class we did a lesson about how both sides manipulate their battle reports to make it sound like they did better than they really did.

What we REALLY need is one of you reporter types to tag along and give an impartial report as to what happens during the next few skirmishes... assuming there will be more skirmishes of course.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 18:24:00 - [399]

If anyone wants, I could send an ALT in a shuttle to be a neutral observer...
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You think Marco Polo said
"Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ?

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If anyone wants, I could send an ALT in a shuttle to be a neutral observer...
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You think Marco Polo said
"Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ?

-Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.07.19 18:30:00 - [401]

I don't really want to tape this message, because of posts above and possibility of topic lock, but I must. Here are today results:
Today we lost 2 battleships. SA lost 5 battleship, 11-15 cruisers.
It would be very nice if SA confirm this numbers, or type their owns, but please without flaming.
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Post was removed as soon as I saw it. Mod squad doesn't have time to watch the forums all 24 hours of the day - Wrangler

Wow, one of the most replied to topics on the boards and it seems the mods aren't paying attention. Why is this twit even allowed to post here?

Oh, that's right, CCP needs every subscriber they can get for a dying game. My bad. Carry on.



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I don't really want to tape this message, because of posts above and possibility of topic lock, but I must. Here are today results:
Today we lost 2 battleships. SA lost 5 battleship, 11-15 cruisers.
It would be very nice if SA confirm this numbers, or type their owns, but please without flaming.
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Post was removed as soon as I saw it. Mod squad doesn't have time to watch the forums all 24 hours of the day - Wrangler

Wow, one of the most replied to topics on the boards and it seems the mods aren't paying attention. Why is this twit even allowed to post here?

Oh, that's right, CCP needs every subscriber they can get for a dying game. My bad. Carry on.



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Posted - 2003.07.19 18:31:00 - [405]

Quote:
If anyone wants, I could send an ALT in a shuttle to be a neutral observer...


and let you have all the fun? I think not!

Corpsicles, get your corpsicles, ice cold and fresh from the pod!

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Quote:
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and let you have all the fun? I think not!

Corpsicles, get your corpsicles, ice cold and fresh from the pod!

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Posted - 2003.07.19 18:53:00 - [407]

I have one more thing. As you probably know there are many corps wich are in SA, but we don't want war with all of them. Here is list of corps wich we will attack:
MASS
Everlasting Vendetta
Old Farts
Solar wind
Storm Guars Elite
The Collective
If your corp is not in the lsit and but in SA, we don't need anythig from and don't want to touch you. Live as before. And I have to repeat once more WE are do not want additional injuries or more corps involved. But don't think we are afraid, if your corp will show hostility to our members you will be included in that list.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 18:53:00 - [408]

I have one more thing. As you probably know there are many corps wich are in SA, but we don't want war with all of them. Here is list of corps wich we will attack:
MASS
Everlasting Vendetta
Old Farts
Solar wind
Storm Guars Elite
The Collective
If your corp is not in the lsit and but in SA, we don't need anythig from and don't want to touch you. Live as before. And I have to repeat once more WE are do not want additional injuries or more corps involved. But don't think we are afraid, if your corp will show hostility to our members you will be included in that list.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:00:00 - [409]

haha, now u dont want a war with whole SA, because u r afraid?! how pitty...
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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:00:00 - [410]

haha, now u dont want a war with whole SA, because u r afraid?! how pitty...
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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:02:00 - [411]

Partial confirmation of violence:
11 Pod kills in Stain in the last 24 hours, 9 of them in the WM-UVD and G-ME2k systems.
18 ships destroyed in those 2 systems as well.
Another 16 ships destroyed in various locations throughout Stain.
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You think Marco Polo said
"Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ?

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Partial confirmation of violence:
11 Pod kills in Stain in the last 24 hours, 9 of them in the WM-UVD and G-ME2k systems.
18 ships destroyed in those 2 systems as well.
Another 16 ships destroyed in various locations throughout Stain.
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You think Marco Polo said
"Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ?

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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:26:00 - [413]

LOL i can see RUS ... those corwards!!! they dont want to get more hostiles corps... cant u chew it RUS ? LOL cowards... ill suggest that all corps will kill RUS as they have becomed the new pirates!!!

RUS IS RUNNING... get use to it!
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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:26:00 - [414]

LOL i can see RUS ... those corwards!!! they dont want to get more hostiles corps... cant u chew it RUS ? LOL cowards... ill suggest that all corps will kill RUS as they have becomed the new pirates!!!

RUS IS RUNNING... get use to it!
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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:28:00 - [415]

I think the SA stands for ****talkers Anonymous....
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I think the SA stands for ****talkers Anonymous....
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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:31:00 - [417]

havent you guys lost enought money repairing yet ???

hehehe
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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:31:00 - [418]

havent you guys lost enought money repairing yet ???

hehehe
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Posted - 2003.07.19 19:33:00 - [419]

Heh, it seems the first casualty in this war was The Truth... as always.
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Heh, it seems the first casualty in this war was The Truth... as always.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:03:00 - [421]

Hmm wonder why we're second on the list then :D
Always nice to know your appriechiated :p Its been a good fight so far. Not sure about losses, its hard to tell when your jumping all over the place fighting.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:03:00 - [422]

Hmm wonder why we're second on the list then :D
Always nice to know your appriechiated :p Its been a good fight so far. Not sure about losses, its hard to tell when your jumping all over the place fighting.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:12:00 - [423]

Sorry RUS - that is what an allience is - you attack one of us - we ALL help each other. As you probably realised yesterday - we had more corps helping than you had ships.

We are are enjoying the fight very much, and hope we can still be friends with those of you who are left when the fighting is over.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:12:00 - [424]

Sorry RUS - that is what an allience is - you attack one of us - we ALL help each other. As you probably realised yesterday - we had more corps helping than you had ships.

We are are enjoying the fight very much, and hope we can still be friends with those of you who are left when the fighting is over.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:15:00 - [425]

OFFICIAL STATMENT FROM M3G4 ON THIS RUS - SA WAR:

RU:
Dudes, do not forget interstella elite, they are the 'main' hub of the stain alliance. Just thought you should know that :)

As well stain is bad at math always, they like 1+2=12 so even if you loose 2 cruiser it will be like 20 to them.

Other than that if you want more intel on stain, I am sure I can release almost any info you would like.

STAIN:
somethings never change hu, fight your war here on the forums with your elite **** talking.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:15:00 - [426]

OFFICIAL STATMENT FROM M3G4 ON THIS RUS - SA WAR:

RU:
Dudes, do not forget interstella elite, they are the 'main' hub of the stain alliance. Just thought you should know that :)

As well stain is bad at math always, they like 1+2=12 so even if you loose 2 cruiser it will be like 20 to them.

Other than that if you want more intel on stain, I am sure I can release almost any info you would like.

STAIN:
somethings never change hu, fight your war here on the forums with your elite **** talking.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:22:00 - [427]

HAHA m3g4, then why are u allways running like hell when they come??? u scared ? and why dont u m3g4 got BS yet...? u allways loosing cruisers ? so u cant build a BS .. LOL .. m3g4 is shot back in stone age!
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:22:00 - [428]

HAHA m3g4, then why are u allways running like hell when they come??? u scared ? and why dont u m3g4 got BS yet...? u allways loosing cruisers ? so u cant build a BS .. LOL .. m3g4 is shot back in stone age!
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:25:00 - [429]

ah yes, duely noted, in the above elite **** talk. nice that you can conferm this for us.

If you wanna flame, fly towards a star until your hull melts f00.

this is not my place to post any further in this topic it's rus - sa topic. smoked out.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:25:00 - [430]

ah yes, duely noted, in the above elite **** talk. nice that you can conferm this for us.

If you wanna flame, fly towards a star until your hull melts f00.

this is not my place to post any further in this topic it's rus - sa topic. smoked out.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:35:00 - [431]

Smoked,

If you beg long enough RUS may let you join in w/ them. Then it will be in your place to post in this thread.

Of course. once they see how you fight they will probably pod you just for being cowards.

Regardless, continue groveling and they may let you be their gophers.

Ronins boots are dirty from the smoke and they need a good lickin, so get to work :)
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:35:00 - [432]

Smoked,

If you beg long enough RUS may let you join in w/ them. Then it will be in your place to post in this thread.

Of course. once they see how you fight they will probably pod you just for being cowards.

Regardless, continue groveling and they may let you be their gophers.

Ronins boots are dirty from the smoke and they need a good lickin, so get to work :)
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:38:00 - [433]

This war really has turned eve on it's head, who cares about the ring event when you have large fleets of battleships slugging it out, lone battleships making daring runs on cruisers, the births and deaths of heroes and villains...this is why i pay ś8 a month for eve.


The true casualty figures of this war might be lost under the meaningless propaganda of the war but the past couple of days have been interesting for everyone involved.


I am sure there are quite a few envious people reading this thread and hoping that they can at least witness some of the action that is going on in stain.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:38:00 - [434]

m3g4 lost 25+ cruisers in the 3 days it took for SA to drive them from Stain. We at Omega Corp personally destroyed around five and witnessed and participated in the destruction of many more. After they requested and were granted 24 hrs to get outta dodge they began talking crap about how they only lost a couple. I wouldn't give any creedance to anything they have to say. Smoked.... how appropriate.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:38:00 - [435]

This war really has turned eve on it's head, who cares about the ring event when you have large fleets of battleships slugging it out, lone battleships making daring runs on cruisers, the births and deaths of heroes and villains...this is why i pay ś8 a month for eve.


The true casualty figures of this war might be lost under the meaningless propaganda of the war but the past couple of days have been interesting for everyone involved.


I am sure there are quite a few envious people reading this thread and hoping that they can at least witness some of the action that is going on in stain.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:38:00 - [436]

m3g4 lost 25+ cruisers in the 3 days it took for SA to drive them from Stain. We at Omega Corp personally destroyed around five and witnessed and participated in the destruction of many more. After they requested and were granted 24 hrs to get outta dodge they began talking crap about how they only lost a couple. I wouldn't give any creedance to anything they have to say. Smoked.... how appropriate.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:54:00 - [437]

<<We are are enjoying the fight very much, and hope we can still be friends with those of you who are left when the fighting is over>>
Its nice to read posts of a smart guy! :)
And I completly agree with you ;)

Edited by: Leshiy on 19/07/2003 20:56:09
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Posted - 2003.07.19 20:54:00 - [438]

<<We are are enjoying the fight very much, and hope we can still be friends with those of you who are left when the fighting is over>>
Its nice to read posts of a smart guy! :)
And I completly agree with you ;)

Edited by: Leshiy on 19/07/2003 20:56:09
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Posted - 2003.07.19 21:26:00 - [439]

Poet, its hardly an urban myth. there is more than enough evidence pointing to the fact that we had already *****ed the Japanese diplomatic code and knew what was coming. Then there were the sightings and destruction of japanese subs hours before the attack just inside the waters of Pearl Harbor.

As far as our best ships being there. The ships in the class of the Arizona, as well the other battleships moored there were obsolete long before Pearl happened. In fact, the newest vessels there were the Carriers.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 21:26:00 - [440]

maybe its not my place for this but RUS is spinning its own lies....

ok first screent shot is of the RUS fleet outside the g-mek2 station
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.parkes/RUS_CC_DUMPING.JPG

also note the CC's around the bs's .. ( cc lagging rus tut tut )

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.parkes/MORE_CC_DROPS.JPG

Rus doing some shooting ..... cool


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.parkes/RUS_B4_THEY_DOCKED.JPG - rus was owned :) <--


( these shots wasn't taken by me btw :D )
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Posted - 2003.07.19 21:26:00 - [441]

maybe its not my place for this but RUS is spinning its own lies....

ok first screent shot is of the RUS fleet outside the g-mek2 station
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.parkes/RUS_CC_DUMPING.JPG

also note the CC's around the bs's .. ( cc lagging rus tut tut )

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.parkes/MORE_CC_DROPS.JPG

Rus doing some shooting ..... cool


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.parkes/RUS_B4_THEY_DOCKED.JPG - rus was owned :) <--


( these shots wasn't taken by me btw :D )
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Posted - 2003.07.19 21:26:00 - [442]

Poet, its hardly an urban myth. there is more than enough evidence pointing to the fact that we had already *****ed the Japanese diplomatic code and knew what was coming. Then there were the sightings and destruction of japanese subs hours before the attack just inside the waters of Pearl Harbor.

As far as our best ships being there. The ships in the class of the Arizona, as well the other battleships moored there were obsolete long before Pearl happened. In fact, the newest vessels there were the Carriers.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 21:45:00 - [443]

bend and flush simmons
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Posted - 2003.07.19 21:45:00 - [444]

bend and flush simmons
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Posted - 2003.07.19 21:48:00 - [445]

It may be true that the carriers were newer but they were looked down upon. It took america years to build them after the rest of the world had started building them. While they were indeed newer they were far from being the flagship of the navy.

And yes it was true that some Japanese midget submarines were indeed engaged and in todays society that message would have reached DC or the DoD quickly, it could take hours or even days for a telegraphed message to be processed and received at the appropriate agency.

We could probably go around and around on the issue, I know I have with other history buffs, but I will never believe in that urban legend.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 21:48:00 - [446]

It may be true that the carriers were newer but they were looked down upon. It took america years to build them after the rest of the world had started building them. While they were indeed newer they were far from being the flagship of the navy.

And yes it was true that some Japanese midget submarines were indeed engaged and in todays society that message would have reached DC or the DoD quickly, it could take hours or even days for a telegraphed message to be processed and received at the appropriate agency.

We could probably go around and around on the issue, I know I have with other history buffs, but I will never believe in that urban legend.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:19:00 - [447]

Why? Because my grandfather worked in Fleet Intelligence at the time, and they all knew what was going to happen, not the scope, but they knew the Japanese were going to attack a major US Naval base in the Pacific in the first week of December.

Since we didn't have too many, much less a major naval base where so many ships were parked, it wasn't too hard to deduce that they were going for Pearl.

Edited by: Maarek Steele on 19/07/2003 22:36:03

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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:19:00 - [448]

Why? Because my grandfather worked in Fleet Intelligence at the time, and they all knew what was going to happen, not the scope, but they knew the Japanese were going to attack a major US Naval base in the Pacific in the first week of December.

Since we didn't have too many, much less a major naval base where so many ships were parked, it wasn't too hard to deduce that they were going for Pearl.

Edited by: Maarek Steele on 19/07/2003 22:36:03

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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:32:00 - [449]

Main Entry: proĄpaĄganĄda
Pronunciation: "prõ-p&-'gan-d&, "prO-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Congregatio de propaganda fide Congregation for propagating the faith, organization established by Pope Gregory XV died 1623
Date: 1718
1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect

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Translated to Russian it obviously means "pure unadulterated bull****".

Show some dignity and honour, RUS.

Stick to the facts.

Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 19/07/2003 22:32:27


LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:32:00 - [450]

Main Entry: pro+pa+gan+da
Pronunciation: "prS-p&-'gan-d&, "prO-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Congregatio de propaganda fide Congregation for propagating the faith, organization established by Pope Gregory XV died 1623
Date: 1718
1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect

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Translated to Russian it obviously means "pure unadulterated bull****".

Show some dignity and honour, RUS.

Stick to the facts.

Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 19/07/2003 22:32:27
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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:38:00 - [451]

m3g4 lost 25+ cruisers in the 3 days it took for SA to drive them from Stain. We at Omega Corp personally destroyed around five and witnessed and participated in the destruction of many more. After they requested and were granted 24 hrs to get outta dodge they began talking crap about how they only lost a couple. I wouldn't give any creedance to anything they have to say. Smoked.... how appropriate.

ROFL! 25+ cruisers!?? We didn't even have that many active cruisers in the entire corp! I guess smoked is right on that: 2+5 = 25 right? The amount of members with cruisers in Stain at that time was not even close to 25, it was more like 8-10, and they didn't lose all their cruisers. This is funny as hell. Rofl! You guys ***** me up, really... and THIS isn't trash talking, I'm not lying at all. The night you gave us 24 hours to leave, most of our crew left intact towards Curse (20ish jumps). So seriously, I don't know where you get that number of 25 cruisers, but we didn't have that many members in stain back then.

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Edited by: Ehxo on 19/07/2003 22:42:23

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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:38:00 - [452]

m3g4 lost 25+ cruisers in the 3 days it took for SA to drive them from Stain. We at Omega Corp personally destroyed around five and witnessed and participated in the destruction of many more. After they requested and were granted 24 hrs to get outta dodge they began talking crap about how they only lost a couple. I wouldn't give any creedance to anything they have to say. Smoked.... how appropriate.

ROFL! 25+ cruisers!?? We didn't even have that many active cruisers in the entire corp! I guess smoked is right on that: 2+5 = 25 right? The amount of members with cruisers in Stain at that time was not even close to 25, it was more like 8-10, and they didn't lose all their cruisers. This is funny as hell. Rofl! You guys ***** me up, really... and THIS isn't trash talking, I'm not lying at all. The night you gave us 24 hours to leave, most of our crew left intact towards Curse (20ish jumps). So seriously, I don't know where you get that number of 25 cruisers, but we didn't have that many members in stain back then.

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Edited by: Ehxo on 19/07/2003 22:42:23
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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:43:00 - [453]

I can say whatever I feel like wherever I feel like so long as I dont break the rules of the forums so you will just need to calm down a bit. Maarek Steele, you wanna compare notes. I dont particular want to be hostile or anything but I've done my own research and comparing notes with someone who has connections to the first hand would be greatly appreciated. If so Evemail me.

If you happen to be a history buff, even better.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:43:00 - [454]

I can say whatever I feel like wherever I feel like so long as I dont break the rules of the forums so you will just need to calm down a bit. Maarek Steele, you wanna compare notes. I dont particular want to be hostile or anything but I've done my own research and comparing notes with someone who has connections to the first hand would be greatly appreciated. If so Evemail me.

If you happen to be a history buff, even better.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:58:00 - [455]

Ok, here's some OFFICIAL numbers from the ingame map statistics:

In the last 24 hours in Stain Region only...

34 Ships have been destroyed
14 Pods have been destroyed

I can't say about yesterday.

The most of the action seem to be happening in the following 2 systems:

HM-UVD (12 ships/7 pods)
G-ME2K (10 ships/5 pods)

There... so if someone says he podded 15 ships of whoever side in the last 24 hours... well he's full of ****.

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Posted - 2003.07.19 22:58:00 - [456]

Ok, here's some OFFICIAL numbers from the ingame map statistics:

In the last 24 hours in Stain Region only...

34 Ships have been destroyed
14 Pods have been destroyed

I can't say about yesterday.

The most of the action seem to be happening in the following 2 systems:

HM-UVD (12 ships/7 pods)
G-ME2K (10 ships/5 pods)

There... so if someone says he podded 15 ships of whoever side in the last 24 hours... well he's full of ****.
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Posted - 2003.07.19 23:15:00 - [457]

damn this has turned nasty, more!



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Posted - 2003.07.19 23:15:00 - [458]

damn this has turned nasty, more!



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Posted - 2003.07.19 23:33:00 - [459]

Yeah a pilot named "Reporter" was in the systems to today. He was told to leave... not sure what his fate was. He wasnt in the system long tho.

One thing that needs to be changed is the way pvp is done. Docking while fighting is just ridiculous. Why would station control let a ship dock while its being fired upon? They should not. There is no logical explanation unless its a player station.

Something also needs to be done about jumpgates. You should not be able to jump right away if you are fighting next to them. It should cause an electromagnetic imbalance or something.


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Posted - 2003.07.19 23:33:00 - [460]

Yeah a pilot named "Reporter" was in the systems to today. He was told to leave... not sure what his fate was. He wasnt in the system long tho.

One thing that needs to be changed is the way pvp is done. Docking while fighting is just ridiculous. Why would station control let a ship dock while its being fired upon? They should not. There is no logical explanation unless its a player station.

Something also needs to be done about jumpgates. You should not be able to jump right away if you are fighting next to them. It should cause an electromagnetic imbalance or something.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 00:43:00 - [461]

Interesting, I was wondering when the next big conflict would be. Frankly, it thought it would be sooner. Anyway, in this game, wars are allowed, and propaganda is also allowed. There should definately be a discussion thread about this on the forums. But first thing is that you keep within the rules. You can insult a corp in a role playing way without namecalling and cursing. Second, keep this on topic and drop the Pearl Harbor discussion.

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Posted - 2003.07.20 00:43:00 - [462]

Interesting, I was wondering when the next big conflict would be. Frankly, it thought it would be sooner. Anyway, in this game, wars are allowed, and propaganda is also allowed. There should definately be a discussion thread about this on the forums. But first thing is that you keep within the rules. You can insult a corp in a role playing way without namecalling and cursing. Second, keep this on topic and drop the Pearl Harbor discussion.

And lets all remember that it's a game.

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Posted - 2003.07.20 01:25:00 - [463]

Since I've had my share of beers for tonight, there will probably be lots of wrong spelling(and english ain't my first)...

Maarek Steele: Without disrespect for your grandfather... But most of us weren't born then. And most of us ain't american. So, actually, we don't want to read ANYTHING MORE ABOUT PEARL HARBOUR in this thread.

Realize it. This is the most interesting thing in EVE since the release. Several battleships blown up. Sure, the pirates blow a BS up some times. Some fleets brakes the blockades daily(SA for example). But what is that (or that damn ring) compared to this war???

Since my char is in Stain, I'm VERY excited... Too bad I'm on a holiday and OFFLINE for a long period(for the second time):(. If I wasn't, my ships would be there with the MASS ships...

"<<We are are enjoying the fight very much, and hope we can still be friends with those of you who are left when the fighting is over>>
Its nice to read posts of a smart guy! :)
And I completly agree with you ;)

Edited by: Leshiy on 19/07/2003 20:56:09
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I must say the same. I've been there to see friendly chats between MASS and RUS(although mostly Technolisa(hmm, Mamont was usually online too in MASS HQ)). It's nice to see that not everyone talks trash-talk, but in fact show respect of their enemy. And I really hope that no matter how this ends, the end will be honourable from both sides.

"HM-UVD (12 ships/7 pods)
G-ME2K (10 ships/5 pods)"
well, not very strange. Everyone who has been in those two systems knows that there are usually several members from two SA corps online in those systems;) It's not hard to see that an aggressor would go there.

About "Interstellar Elite". Yes, they are an important member of the alliance. Although located more "deep into Stain". As well as several other corps missing on RUS's list. To me that list only include about half of the alliance. And not to mention that several corps in the alliance has allies outside of the alliance.
But it's not surprising to see that the Stain-members closest to empire-space are most known.

As RUS already stated: If you're not part of a superior fleet, then you don't have time for screenshots. But of course I loved to see those screenies... But guys, damn it, from now on, everyone fire at the same enemy ship!!!

And those pirate corps... :( (Don't take that smiley as "I don't want you in EVE". I sure do, it's only for your comments in this thread)
Well, it's not hard to see they want this war. Since it means that there won't be a 20 ship fleet coming to brake up their blockades in Catch/Providence each day...
And it's not hard to see that, despite recent events, m0o/sinistar would probably support Stain while m3g4/Da Dragons support RUS.

"Heh, it seems the first casualty in this war was The Truth... as always.
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CEO, hirr"
Oh yes. As always. But who would expect else? Although most of the members in SA and RUS are very trust-worthy, there is always some guys that are not.
And while those trust-worthy probably aint lying, they probably don't tell the hole truth either.

To you guys complaining about SA. Face it, it's 0.0 space, "owned" by Sansha's nation. But SA tries to be friendly when asking you to leave. I guess, either you was unfriendly, or you met one of the members who are now "kicked out" from their previous corps because they were to "trigger happy". And if you guys didn't get it. Those corps in Stain has lots of lots of lots of members/BPs/ships/equipment/minerals. There are many original battleships BP's out there...
Personally, I don't see how RUS could win this war.

But as I stated before, I didn't think it would go to war. I guess some RUS members simply are bored because of the lack of contant in EVE. My current bet is that this will end in a stalemate in some days. When RUS has had their exciting times of war, and no longer can afford it, and the SA will not be interested in spending more battleships going to RUS home to finish it... Then they will settle for a NAP again.

TTI probably is the corp with most money. But when it comes to PvP experience too, the corps in this war is not far behind TTI in the race for "most powerful corp". As a matter of fact, in my opinion, it would be very logical if the first player-owned station will be buildt by a joint effort of Stain members in one of the regions "below" Stain.

Since there was 60 people in local "at the ring" (and lots of them even goining there with their main char), I don't see why lots of alts will be heading to Stain to watch this conflict with their own eyes. Because, to most of the "hard core gamers", this conflict is currently much more important than that ring...




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Posted - 2003.07.20 01:25:00 - [464]

Since I've had my share of beers for tonight, there will probably be lots of wrong spelling(and english ain't my first)...

Maarek Steele: Without disrespect for your grandfather... But most of us weren't born then. And most of us ain't american. So, actually, we don't want to read ANYTHING MORE ABOUT PEARL HARBOUR in this thread.

Realize it. This is the most interesting thing in EVE since the release. Several battleships blown up. Sure, the pirates blow a BS up some times. Some fleets brakes the blockades daily(SA for example). But what is that (or that damn ring) compared to this war???

Since my char is in Stain, I'm VERY excited... Too bad I'm on a holiday and OFFLINE for a long period(for the second time):(. If I wasn't, my ships would be there with the MASS ships...

"<<We are are enjoying the fight very much, and hope we can still be friends with those of you who are left when the fighting is over>>
Its nice to read posts of a smart guy! :)
And I completly agree with you ;)

Edited by: Leshiy on 19/07/2003 20:56:09
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I must say the same. I've been there to see friendly chats between MASS and RUS(although mostly Technolisa(hmm, Mamont was usually online too in MASS HQ)). It's nice to see that not everyone talks trash-talk, but in fact show respect of their enemy. And I really hope that no matter how this ends, the end will be honourable from both sides.

"HM-UVD (12 ships/7 pods)
G-ME2K (10 ships/5 pods)"
well, not very strange. Everyone who has been in those two systems knows that there are usually several members from two SA corps online in those systems;) It's not hard to see that an aggressor would go there.

About "Interstellar Elite". Yes, they are an important member of the alliance. Although located more "deep into Stain". As well as several other corps missing on RUS's list. To me that list only include about half of the alliance. And not to mention that several corps in the alliance has allies outside of the alliance.
But it's not surprising to see that the Stain-members closest to empire-space are most known.

As RUS already stated: If you're not part of a superior fleet, then you don't have time for screenshots. But of course I loved to see those screenies... But guys, damn it, from now on, everyone fire at the same enemy ship!!!

And those pirate corps... :( (Don't take that smiley as "I don't want you in EVE". I sure do, it's only for your comments in this thread)
Well, it's not hard to see they want this war. Since it means that there won't be a 20 ship fleet coming to brake up their blockades in Catch/Providence each day...
And it's not hard to see that, despite recent events, m0o/sinistar would probably support Stain while m3g4/Da Dragons support RUS.

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Oh yes. As always. But who would expect else? Although most of the members in SA and RUS are very trust-worthy, there is always some guys that are not.
And while those trust-worthy probably aint lying, they probably don't tell the hole truth either.

To you guys complaining about SA. Face it, it's 0.0 space, "owned" by Sansha's nation. But SA tries to be friendly when asking you to leave. I guess, either you was unfriendly, or you met one of the members who are now "kicked out" from their previous corps because they were to "trigger happy". And if you guys didn't get it. Those corps in Stain has lots of lots of lots of members/BPs/ships/equipment/minerals. There are many original battleships BP's out there...
Personally, I don't see how RUS could win this war.

But as I stated before, I didn't think it would go to war. I guess some RUS members simply are bored because of the lack of contant in EVE. My current bet is that this will end in a stalemate in some days. When RUS has had their exciting times of war, and no longer can afford it, and the SA will not be interested in spending more battleships going to RUS home to finish it... Then they will settle for a NAP again.

TTI probably is the corp with most money. But when it comes to PvP experience too, the corps in this war is not far behind TTI in the race for "most powerful corp". As a matter of fact, in my opinion, it would be very logical if the first player-owned station will be buildt by a joint effort of Stain members in one of the regions "below" Stain.

Since there was 60 people in local "at the ring" (and lots of them even goining there with their main char), I don't see why lots of alts will be heading to Stain to watch this conflict with their own eyes. Because, to most of the "hard core gamers", this conflict is currently much more important than that ring...



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Posted - 2003.07.20 04:20:00 - [465]

well today was fun rus you bring exciment to eve...

tho for all your big talk you are only bookmarkers droping on gates and stations so you can run or dock right away...tisk tisk

and i tought you would be men and fight like men haha oh well cant expect that from rus i guess...

well to informe all we bouth took losses but dont be fooled we dident loose too rus in my oppion they lost bad ... only jumping and docking tisk tisk....but ok its tactics i dont disrespect that all can be countred :p so run in the station and spend your money repairing...all a matter of time before you run out of money :p

and your silly tactics of disrupting us from mining hahaha there was a mining op going on the whole time the battle was going on :p

and your mining crew sits in a police protected system ....and i thought you big brave guys were more brave than that.....at least we mine in our own systemn 0.0 ....ahhh rus balls arnt so big after all :p

see you tomarrow rusy
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Posted - 2003.07.20 04:20:00 - [466]

well today was fun rus you bring exciment to eve...

tho for all your big talk you are only bookmarkers droping on gates and stations so you can run or dock right away...tisk tisk

and i tought you would be men and fight like men haha oh well cant expect that from rus i guess...

well to informe all we bouth took losses but dont be fooled we dident loose too rus in my oppion they lost bad ... only jumping and docking tisk tisk....but ok its tactics i dont disrespect that all can be countred :p so run in the station and spend your money repairing...all a matter of time before you run out of money :p

and your silly tactics of disrupting us from mining hahaha there was a mining op going on the whole time the battle was going on :p

and your mining crew sits in a police protected system ....and i thought you big brave guys were more brave than that.....at least we mine in our own systemn 0.0 ....ahhh rus balls arnt so big after all :p

see you tomarrow rusy
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Stain are idiots for saying that RUS is playing unfairly if they dont go into head on battles...wtf is wrong with you, didnt you also say that you outnumber them at least 10:1????what do you expect???
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Stain are idiots for saying that RUS is playing unfairly if they dont go into head on battles...wtf is wrong with you, didnt you also say that you outnumber them at least 10:1????what do you expect???
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Posted - 2003.07.20 05:39:00 - [469]

I have sent invitation to eve-i to be the oficial information source of this war. They accepted it. So if you don't belive me or MASS I hope you'll bellive eve-i. Everething will be reported as it is, without adding anything. Also I ask both sides not to attack or even lock reporters. I hope this peace of news would not be flamed.
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I have sent invitation to eve-i to be the oficial information source of this war. They accepted it. So if you don't belive me or MASS I hope you'll bellive eve-i. Everething will be reported as it is, without adding anything. Also I ask both sides not to attack or even lock reporters. I hope this peace of news would not be flamed.
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thanks, its about time
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thanks, its about time


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Posted - 2003.07.20 06:03:00 - [473]

Morpheus were u there? nope. so i would not be so quick to jump on someone who was there fighting it out. its an opinion... you may have your own but until your in the sh|t please refrain from slamming those who are.


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Morpheus were u there? nope. so i would not be so quick to jump on someone who was there fighting it out. its an opinion... you may have your own but until your in the sh|t please refrain from slamming those who are.
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".....I ask everyone not to attack reporters..."

While this is well intentioned, its not practical.

If I had a 1,000 isk for everytime I've seen a pilot in a noob corp appear running scout for a pirate corp, I'd have enough for another Battleship.

My advice,
If you dont want to get shot, stay outta the warzone.


As for getting someone to report this fairly... I assume that will mean that RUS supplies Eve-I with the information? If so, that would mean a third party, to supply info from just one party. Hardly "fair" imo.

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".....I ask everyone not to attack reporters..."

While this is well intentioned, its not practical.

If I had a 1,000 isk for everytime I've seen a pilot in a noob corp appear running scout for a pirate corp, I'd have enough for another Battleship.

My advice,
If you dont want to get shot, stay outta the warzone.


As for getting someone to report this fairly... I assume that will mean that RUS supplies Eve-I with the information? If so, that would mean a third party, to supply info from just one party. Hardly "fair" imo.





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No suply, we just proposed them to be there and reporting everething happends. Well as an example could be last war in Iraq.
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No suply, we just proposed them to be there and reporting everething happends. Well as an example could be last war in Iraq.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 08:22:00 - [479]

Ok ppl.. I know yall wanna know what is happening but for your own safety, I STRONGLY urge u to stay out of stain. If spotted the SA will give u warning to leave. if u fail to respond or don't leave. then u will be fired upon. We ask this for your safety and do not wanna c innocent Bystanders get hurt as Reporter found out. He failed to heed the warning and was destroyed. This was unfortunate and we r not trying to hide anything. but when u have 40+ ships in system fighting it gets very clustered. also spys can be from noob corps so we don't take any chances.

So please do not enter if u don't wanna run a risk of death.

One more thing. I would like to say i also hope that once the war is over, friendships will not be damaged. It is just a game after all. To RUS corp. we will talk tommorow again i am sure :)))

cya in the Warzone Rus...


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Ok ppl.. I know yall wanna know what is happening but for your own safety, I STRONGLY urge u to stay out of stain. If spotted the SA will give u warning to leave. if u fail to respond or don't leave. then u will be fired upon. We ask this for your safety and do not wanna c innocent Bystanders get hurt as Reporter found out. He failed to heed the warning and was destroyed. This was unfortunate and we r not trying to hide anything. but when u have 40+ ships in system fighting it gets very clustered. also spys can be from noob corps so we don't take any chances.

So please do not enter if u don't wanna run a risk of death.

One more thing. I would like to say i also hope that once the war is over, friendships will not be damaged. It is just a game after all. To RUS corp. we will talk tommorow again i am sure :)))

cya in the Warzone Rus...


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CrimsonJade, did you even read my post???btw the last sentence of yours doesnt make any sense, rephrase it...
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CrimsonJade, did you even read my post???btw the last sentence of yours doesnt make any sense, rephrase it...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 08:52:00 - [483]

Morpheus,

He was basically saying "Opinions are like *******s - everyone has one. Until you've been to Stain and taken part in the battle, keep your opinions to yourself because no-one will believe them".

Clear?

Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 20/07/2003 08:52:09


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Morpheus,

He was basically saying "Opinions are like *******s - everyone has one. Until you've been to Stain and taken part in the battle, keep your opinions to yourself because no-one will believe them".

Clear?

Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 20/07/2003 08:52:09
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i think Josh nailed it on the head...


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i think Josh nailed it on the head...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 08:55:00 - [487]

been to stain :P dont feel like coming there ATM tho :D i was talking about theory....how can you accuse someone of using tacticts? thats like accusing ppl of using condoms, or using toilet paper...
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been to stain :P dont feel like coming there ATM tho :D i was talking about theory....how can you accuse someone of using tacticts? thats like accusing ppl of using condoms, or using toilet paper...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 09:04:00 - [489]

I'm not too sure which post you're referring to, Morphy, but I'm assuming it was referring to RUS camping stations/jumpgates.

I'm not sure if that is a good move for RUS - offensive maneuvers should be quick and hard.

Camping inside Stain is just slow suicide.

Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 20/07/2003 09:04:19


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I'm not too sure which post you're referring to, Morphy, but I'm assuming it was referring to RUS camping stations/jumpgates.

I'm not sure if that is a good move for RUS - offensive maneuvers should be quick and hard.

Camping inside Stain is just slow suicide.

Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 20/07/2003 09:04:19
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Posted - 2003.07.20 09:06:00 - [491]

"While this is well intentioned, its not practical.

If I had a 1,000 isk for everytime I've seen a pilot in a noob corp appear running scout for a pirate corp, I'd have enough for another Battleship.

My advice,
If you dont want to get shot, stay outta the warzone."

So. You wish everyone to belive your version of events, and yet you admit that you will attack any repoters that enter the region? Even if they are from somewhere like eve-i? I find that rediculous personnaly. How can you expect anyone to belive you over RUS when they at least ask a legit source to report the war fairly, and you say you will kill any reportes you see. I would expect nothing less from GFL, you are, IMO, a bunch of up yourself trekkies, go back to starfleet command.



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Posted - 2003.07.20 09:06:00 - [492]

"While this is well intentioned, its not practical.

If I had a 1,000 isk for everytime I've seen a pilot in a noob corp appear running scout for a pirate corp, I'd have enough for another Battleship.

My advice,
If you dont want to get shot, stay outta the warzone."

So. You wish everyone to belive your version of events, and yet you admit that you will attack any repoters that enter the region? Even if they are from somewhere like eve-i? I find that rediculous personnaly. How can you expect anyone to belive you over RUS when they at least ask a legit source to report the war fairly, and you say you will kill any reportes you see. I would expect nothing less from GFL, you are, IMO, a bunch of up yourself trekkies, go back to starfleet command.



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Posted - 2003.07.20 09:08:00 - [493]

It's like the man said - they could easily be spies and there's not much time in battle to check info/check chat channel to see who is a neutral observer...or an alt casing out the joint.


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It's like the man said - they could easily be spies and there's not much time in battle to check info/check chat channel to see who is a neutral observer...or an alt casing out the joint.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 09:14:00 - [495]

Current SA Leaders will contact Eve-i and co-ordinate with them..i was reffering to the noob char. that just came in on his/her own.

He did not respond nor heed the warnings. We have the name of the Eve-I reporter and the leaders will contact EVE-i and discuss the details.

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Current SA Leaders will contact Eve-i and co-ordinate with them..i was reffering to the noob char. that just came in on his/her own.

He did not respond nor heed the warnings. We have the name of the Eve-I reporter and the leaders will contact EVE-i and discuss the details.

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khe obviously i posted a second too late lol

Edited by: M0RPHEUS on 20/07/2003 09:20:41
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khe obviously i posted a second too late lol

Edited by: M0RPHEUS on 20/07/2003 09:20:41
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Morpheus is just a little uptight for not being one of the big boys, so relax crimson :).


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Morpheus is just a little uptight for not being one of the big boys, so relax crimson :).


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:) were you one of the few guys we chased off from Venal? :)
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:) were you one of the few guys we chased off from Venal? :)
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We are beings in RUS corps for you is givings us 100k megacytes and are minging we like you it. Google is translating us our we as we speaking it. Stain alliances are the dying in it cause of what is like. Give us your loaf of breads, sick we are of standings in the breads que. longs living Googles and RUS corp is are we going to be the best in world are we at!!!
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We are beings in RUS corps for you is givings us 100k megacytes and are minging we like you it. Google is translating us our we as we speaking it. Stain alliances are the dying in it cause of what is like. Give us your loaf of breads, sick we are of standings in the breads que. longs living Googles and RUS corp is are we going to be the best in world are we at!!!
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ROFL :P
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ROFL :P
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how old is j0rt like 14? shows the maturity of m0o :P
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how old is j0rt like 14? shows the maturity of m0o :P
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lighten up please just cause your in critical mass doesnt mean you have to act like a 50 year old man. Btw im 22 just to clarify ;)



Edited by: j0rt on 20/07/2003 11:33:03
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lighten up please just cause your in critical mass doesnt mean you have to act like a 50 year old man. Btw im 22 just to clarify ;)



Edited by: j0rt on 20/07/2003 11:33:03
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Posted - 2003.07.20 11:38:00 - [511]

Well comming into stain as a reporter will not happen all are asked to stay out of this region till this war is over we do not need any intervention from anyone Russ and alliance members only the rest will be asked to leave quickly and if not they will be killed. RON1n i know u like to play with the peeps minds and yes it is fun to sit back and watch this thread you started grow vastly congrats to you for bringing some excitment to the game it was getting boring to bad Techno wont join you in battle opps did I say that sry Ron thats was privy info. Not nice to be welcomed to stain with open arms to hunt pirates but as always you decieve lie and dishonor your corp by mining in our systems then try to sell the minerals on the market tis tis Ron bad boy there Putting all that aside in just a small amount of time this post is the largest this game as seen and the first combat the devs should be watching this to see all the bugs that are involved in combat so they can fix this beta game that we are paying for and have a much better War, but please ron don't lie and dishonor your corp any more you should be better than that by the way ron did you see the GM that was in both systems yesterday saying that he was there just to fix a agent mission :)))))))))))))))))
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Well comming into stain as a reporter will not happen all are asked to stay out of this region till this war is over we do not need any intervention from anyone Russ and alliance members only the rest will be asked to leave quickly and if not they will be killed. RON1n i know u like to play with the peeps minds and yes it is fun to sit back and watch this thread you started grow vastly congrats to you for bringing some excitment to the game it was getting boring to bad Techno wont join you in battle opps did I say that sry Ron thats was privy info. Not nice to be welcomed to stain with open arms to hunt pirates but as always you decieve lie and dishonor your corp by mining in our systems then try to sell the minerals on the market tis tis Ron bad boy there Putting all that aside in just a small amount of time this post is the largest this game as seen and the first combat the devs should be watching this to see all the bugs that are involved in combat so they can fix this beta game that we are paying for and have a much better War, but please ron don't lie and dishonor your corp any more you should be better than that by the way ron did you see the GM that was in both systems yesterday saying that he was there just to fix a agent mission :)))))))))))))))))
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Hey Jazier, if you expect people to read your posts, please make them readable.
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Hey Jazier, if you expect people to read your posts, please make them readable.

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Posted - 2003.07.20 11:53:00 - [515]

It is not surprising that we get confusing and conflicting reports - believe me large scale battles are fun, but it is hard to know exactly what is going on, particularly when you are trying not to lose your first BS.

I have been involved with most of this episode from the start, and have managed to fire at most of RUS (though to be honest I didn't seem to worry them that much :)).

My reading of the events so far is that RUS came on the first day with about 10 ships, though the main fleet was about 5 - 6 ships. I think they thought they would come to MASS and easily take out our guards and have free rein to kill and disrupt our mining.

However, you would have needed to have been there to see how well the alliance responded to our first real threat. If you think about how much time and effort corps and individuals have put into getting there ships, and the knowledge that once you attack RUS there is no going back ū it would have been very easy to say you were to far away, or just remain quiet on chat. That wasnĘt the case, we had fleets coming from 40 jumps away. People brought BS they had paid for themselves, and I never heard a single complaint when ships were lost. One guy was laughing about how he had warped into the RUS fleet and lost his cruiser, even though he had been left with nothing.

RUS camped our gate and it was clear they intended to fight. Our fleet warped in and all hell broke lose. At this stage I heard claims from our side of 2 RUS BSs being destroyed, and RUS seem to have confirmed this. We got a message from a member of our fleet saying ęI have lost my BSĘ, and we announced the loss to the alliance. In fact he thought he was saying goodbye to us as he was down to about 5% structure, but miraculously RUS choose that moment to warp through the gate. The repair cost was quoted as something like 25 million.

We pursued RUS and I saw two RUS cruisers destroyed, and one guy come out of a station to be popped for fast trip home. I also got a confirmed RUS cruiser kill from another system. We had no loses during this battle on the first day, though people may have been killed coming to us.

The second day, RUS came back in force, and with the knowledge we were no push over. I still suspect they thought they could fight a mass fleet action at this stage. Well, they had the upper hand for the first part of the day (starting 9am ish UK time), but as more SA logged on the tide turned. We lost several cruisers who were scouting or coming to our aid. Due to gravity warp our communications were disrupted (well that is what was said at the court marshal :)) A BS was left exposed to RUS and was lost, a second cruiser heroically stayed to take fire knowing he was going to be toast, so our CEO in another BS could warp away. We had a confirmed kill on a RUS BS that attacked a sub fleet of ours. RUS then fought a brave but futile hit and run tactic for the next several hours.

I commend RUS for bringing the fight to us. They are brave fighters, and use some very interesting tactics. We have learnt a lot from them, and gaining a lot of valuable experience in non NPC fighting, and the use of overwhelming numbers.

I am not sure where it will go from here ū with the best will in the world, RUS does not have the numbers to fight us in a fleet action ū and I donĘt think running from station to station is a playing style that RUS will enjoy.

Others may have perceived events differently, but this is an honest account. I would be most interested to see a report from RUS.

I have taken a number of screenies, if I ever find them and can work out how to put them up ū I will.

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Posted - 2003.07.20 11:53:00 - [516]

It is not surprising that we get confusing and conflicting reports - believe me large scale battles are fun, but it is hard to know exactly what is going on, particularly when you are trying not to lose your first BS.

I have been involved with most of this episode from the start, and have managed to fire at most of RUS (though to be honest I didn't seem to worry them that much :)).

My reading of the events so far is that RUS came on the first day with about 10 ships, though the main fleet was about 5 - 6 ships. I think they thought they would come to MASS and easily take out our guards and have free rein to kill and disrupt our mining.

However, you would have needed to have been there to see how well the alliance responded to our first real threat. If you think about how much time and effort corps and individuals have put into getting there ships, and the knowledge that once you attack RUS there is no going back ū it would have been very easy to say you were to far away, or just remain quiet on chat. That wasnĘt the case, we had fleets coming from 40 jumps away. People brought BS they had paid for themselves, and I never heard a single complaint when ships were lost. One guy was laughing about how he had warped into the RUS fleet and lost his cruiser, even though he had been left with nothing.

RUS camped our gate and it was clear they intended to fight. Our fleet warped in and all hell broke lose. At this stage I heard claims from our side of 2 RUS BSs being destroyed, and RUS seem to have confirmed this. We got a message from a member of our fleet saying ęI have lost my BSĘ, and we announced the loss to the alliance. In fact he thought he was saying goodbye to us as he was down to about 5% structure, but miraculously RUS choose that moment to warp through the gate. The repair cost was quoted as something like 25 million.

We pursued RUS and I saw two RUS cruisers destroyed, and one guy come out of a station to be popped for fast trip home. I also got a confirmed RUS cruiser kill from another system. We had no loses during this battle on the first day, though people may have been killed coming to us.

The second day, RUS came back in force, and with the knowledge we were no push over. I still suspect they thought they could fight a mass fleet action at this stage. Well, they had the upper hand for the first part of the day (starting 9am ish UK time), but as more SA logged on the tide turned. We lost several cruisers who were scouting or coming to our aid. Due to gravity warp our communications were disrupted (well that is what was said at the court marshal :)) A BS was left exposed to RUS and was lost, a second cruiser heroically stayed to take fire knowing he was going to be toast, so our CEO in another BS could warp away. We had a confirmed kill on a RUS BS that attacked a sub fleet of ours. RUS then fought a brave but futile hit and run tactic for the next several hours.

I commend RUS for bringing the fight to us. They are brave fighters, and use some very interesting tactics. We have learnt a lot from them, and gaining a lot of valuable experience in non NPC fighting, and the use of overwhelming numbers.

I am not sure where it will go from here ū with the best will in the world, RUS does not have the numbers to fight us in a fleet action ū and I donĘt think running from station to station is a playing style that RUS will enjoy.

Others may have perceived events differently, but this is an honest account. I would be most interested to see a report from RUS.

I have taken a number of screenies, if I ever find them and can work out how to put them up ū I will.

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Posted - 2003.07.20 12:08:00 - [517]

oh were you talking to me Morpheus?

of so please read me post again maby you were sleepy and dident understand it clearly.

I was talking to rus corp on the wondurful bookmarks that they made all over our system landing on all stations and gates, I dident say they are un FAIR i said I thought they were real fighters. Which proves to us they been planing this war for a week inadvance to set up so many bookmarks and test them out to make sure they all work so well as they do.

Hey cheers to them for their great planing, even their bookmarks for planets are 300k away from the planet chase them to the planets and you will only find they are 300k awayfrom you, now come on how do you set up so many bookmarks on a spur of the moment war :/

I never said its not fair only that I thought they had more balls than that ......thats all.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 12:08:00 - [518]

oh were you talking to me Morpheus?

of so please read me post again maby you were sleepy and dident understand it clearly.

I was talking to rus corp on the wondurful bookmarks that they made all over our system landing on all stations and gates, I dident say they are un FAIR i said I thought they were real fighters. Which proves to us they been planing this war for a week inadvance to set up so many bookmarks and test them out to make sure they all work so well as they do.

Hey cheers to them for their great planing, even their bookmarks for planets are 300k away from the planet chase them to the planets and you will only find they are 300k awayfrom you, now come on how do you set up so many bookmarks on a spur of the moment war :/

I never said its not fair only that I thought they had more balls than that ......thats all.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 12:37:00 - [519]

they still got bigger balls than ur lot :P btw i think what j0rt wrote is kinda funny, and im russian, so anyone that thinks its offensive can go...do something with themselves...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 12:37:00 - [520]

they still got bigger balls than ur lot :P btw i think what j0rt wrote is kinda funny, and im russian, so anyone that thinks its offensive can go...do something with themselves...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 12:38:00 - [521]

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Posted - 2003.07.20 13:17:00 - [525]


Grikl u are talking about balls when ur people are afraid to figh , hiding inside stations , afraid to undock :) kinda ironic...

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Grikl u are talking about balls when ur people are afraid to figh , hiding inside stations , afraid to undock :) kinda ironic...

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Posted - 2003.07.20 13:35:00 - [527]

LoL
LAST 2 days:
They caping us = 15 mins
Us camping them = 25 hours

But they are giving us a good fight, but nothing drastic. I whonder how long they can do it.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 13:35:00 - [528]

LoL
LAST 2 days:
They caping us = 15 mins
Us camping them = 25 hours

But they are giving us a good fight, but nothing drastic. I whonder how long they can do it.
RUS gl & hf :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:16:00 - [529]

and normal operations ARE still continuing (typo)



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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:16:00 - [530]

and normal operations ARE still continuing (typo)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:30:00 - [531]

Cleopatra it is nice that you want to get involved but throwing around accusations like that makes everyone question your credibility. The amount of time we have been "blocked" in has been very minimal. So i do not know why you think we are afraid to fight?


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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:30:00 - [532]

Cleopatra it is nice that you want to get involved but throwing around accusations like that makes everyone question your credibility. The amount of time we have been "blocked" in has been very minimal. So i do not know why you think we are afraid to fight?
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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:44:00 - [533]

I have to agree with you grikl, i think that rus have been planning this war for a while and that it was more then just some drunken, vodka fueled, mistake by ronin.

But thankyou rus for making eve a little more interesting :).
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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:44:00 - [534]

I have to agree with you grikl, i think that rus have been planning this war for a while and that it was more then just some drunken, vodka fueled, mistake by ronin.

But thankyou rus for making eve a little more interesting :).
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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:48:00 - [535]

"Stain are idiots for saying that RUS is playing unfairly if they dont go into head on battles...wtf is wrong with you, didnt you also say that you outnumber them at least 10:1????what do you expect???"

All's fair in love and war.

My take: I will refuse to believe any statements by the Stain Alliance until they allow some neutral war reporter in. I suggest making prearrangements with 1-2 characters, to make the task of figuring out who is a reporter and who is a spy easier. The Eve-I staff are about as neutral and unbiased as you can get.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:48:00 - [536]

"Stain are idiots for saying that RUS is playing unfairly if they dont go into head on battles...wtf is wrong with you, didnt you also say that you outnumber them at least 10:1????what do you expect???"

All's fair in love and war.

My take: I will refuse to believe any statements by the Stain Alliance until they allow some neutral war reporter in. I suggest making prearrangements with 1-2 characters, to make the task of figuring out who is a reporter and who is a spy easier. The Eve-I staff are about as neutral and unbiased as you can get.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:53:00 - [537]

To be fair to Cleopatra, RUS were at a station of ours for a couple of hours with some SA members in it. She may have assumed that they were camping the station where our fleet was. However, we were next door arranging for all exits to be blocked before we made a move.

When we warped into the system with 30 ships (I have found the screenies), we found that all of the RUS team had to log off for the night - so Cleo probably just missed us :).
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Posted - 2003.07.20 14:53:00 - [538]

To be fair to Cleopatra, RUS were at a station of ours for a couple of hours with some SA members in it. She may have assumed that they were camping the station where our fleet was. However, we were next door arranging for all exits to be blocked before we made a move.

When we warped into the system with 30 ships (I have found the screenies), we found that all of the RUS team had to log off for the night - so Cleo probably just missed us :).
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:03:00 - [539]

BOSD - I do not believe that any of us consider their tactics unfair - but if you reread the first post made by Ron1n, it does not say 'we will come and make sneak atacks on you because you are to strong for us!'. It brags about how strong RUS is, and how they will come in and kill all allience members.

Many are disapointed that RUS won't stand and fight even one of our fleets. Of course they can use pirate tactics - but that is not what was promised.


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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:03:00 - [540]

BOSD - I do not believe that any of us consider their tactics unfair - but if you reread the first post made by Ron1n, it does not say 'we will come and make sneak atacks on you because you are to strong for us!'. It brags about how strong RUS is, and how they will come in and kill all allience members.

Many are disapointed that RUS won't stand and fight even one of our fleets. Of course they can use pirate tactics - but that is not what was promised.


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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:08:00 - [541]

omfg Rust, how old are you??????? i mean, sorry dude, the times when two armies lined up facing each other and shot at the same time are long gone...Ronin should feel bad, thats like lying to a baby...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:08:00 - [542]

omfg Rust, how old are you??????? i mean, sorry dude, the times when two armies lined up facing each other and shot at the same time are long gone...Ronin should feel bad, thats like lying to a baby...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:10:00 - [543]

If any are intrestet i can make a mpeg movie with my camcorder... then all can see how RUS is fleeing... but shall i ?
That will truly show how RUS is some big cowards...


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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:10:00 - [544]

If any are intrestet i can make a mpeg movie with my camcorder... then all can see how RUS is fleeing... but shall i ?
That will truly show how RUS is some big cowards...


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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:12:00 - [545]

Battle report for last 2 days:
SA for last 2 days have lost 4 battleships, 15 cruisers, 3 frigates, 1 industrial ship.
RUS Corp. lost 3 battleships, 3 cruisers.

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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:12:00 - [546]

omg...they showing u the art of battle, you just loose ships, but you dont give a heck cuz you got...800 of them?....
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:12:00 - [547]

Battle report for last 2 days:
SA for last 2 days have lost 4 battleships, 15 cruisers, 3 frigates, 1 industrial ship.
RUS Corp. lost 3 battleships, 3 cruisers.

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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:12:00 - [548]

omg...they showing u the art of battle, you just loose ships, but you dont give a heck cuz you got...800 of them?....
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:13:00 - [549]

Official statement : i will buy corpses of MASS members for 10k a piece....
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:13:00 - [550]

Official statement : i will buy corpses of MASS members for 10k a piece....
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:15:00 - [551]

Morph - I suspect I have ties older than you :)

Please reread the first post - I think you will agree that Ron1n didn't make it clear he intended us to die of bordom.

I have said I think they are brave fighters using very good tactics. But when RUS declare they are coming to get you, you expect more than chasing them from station to station.


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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:15:00 - [552]

Morph - I suspect I have ties older than you :)

Please reread the first post - I think you will agree that Ron1n didn't make it clear he intended us to die of bordom.

I have said I think they are brave fighters using very good tactics. But when RUS declare they are coming to get you, you expect more than chasing them from station to station.


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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:17:00 - [553]

Morph we got few , and few from other Stain alliance corporations aswell :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:17:00 - [554]

Morph we got few , and few from other Stain alliance corporations aswell :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:22:00 - [555]

U was gathering 30 ships to fight vs 6 :), while u were gathering ur ships we went to bed , hope u prepare ur forces faster than snail speed next time...

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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:22:00 - [556]

U was gathering 30 ships to fight vs 6 :), while u were gathering ur ships we went to bed , hope u prepare ur forces faster than snail speed next time...

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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:23:00 - [557]

ok Rust, i would be saying that if i were you and its all propaganda(both what u and I say)...so lets just forget bout it...well see how it turns out
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:23:00 - [558]

ok Rust, i would be saying that if i were you and its all propaganda(both what u and I say)...so lets just forget bout it...well see how it turns out
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:29:00 - [559]

Good point Cleo :).

We had the 30 ships from the start - but had even more ready when you tried to run, but you tricked us and logged off instead :). We still have a lot to learn - but we have a good teacher.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:29:00 - [560]

Good point Cleo :).

We had the 30 ships from the start - but had even more ready when you tried to run, but you tricked us and logged off instead :). We still have a lot to learn - but we have a good teacher.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:58:00 - [561]

lol we didnt trick u , we just got bored and went to bed , if u concidering sleeping as a military trick...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 15:58:00 - [562]

lol we didnt trick u , we just got bored and went to bed , if u concidering sleeping as a military trick...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:02:00 - [563]

Just a small observation. Been keeping an eye on the figure of ships destroyed in last 24 hrs on map over past few days.

According to Gurenus RUS have destroyed over 40% more than that amount in 2 days. Bit wierd that huh?

(The map is usually within 1-3 ships correct on that figure btw and if wrong it is usually too many destroyed)
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Just a small observation. Been keeping an eye on the figure of ships destroyed in last 24 hrs on map over past few days.

According to Gurenus RUS have destroyed over 40% more than that amount in 2 days. Bit wierd that huh?

(The map is usually within 1-3 ships correct on that figure btw and if wrong it is usually too many destroyed)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:08:00 - [565]

why dont u ask ur alliance how many ships they lost , and keep observing :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:08:00 - [566]

why dont u ask ur alliance how many ships they lost , and keep observing :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:31:00 - [570]

Archon, by using map you can't receive very accurate infromation. All those ships were lost all around stain and those stats I wrote early could differ from reality on +-2 ship at every side, cause sometimes after battle it's hard to remember exact numbers.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:31:00 - [571]

TSSSssshhhhhhhh... we are rubbit hunting!
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:31:00 - [572]

Archon, by using map you can't receive very accurate infromation. All those ships were lost all around stain and those stats I wrote early could differ from reality on +-2 ship at every side, cause sometimes after battle it's hard to remember exact numbers.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:35:00 - [573]

I'd like to see where that cruiser count came from. Don't assume that every random cruiser you destroy in Stain is from the Stain Alliance.

Killing what others may call 'bystanders' doesn't alter how many of us you kill.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:35:00 - [574]

I'd like to see where that cruiser count came from. Don't assume that every random cruiser you destroy in Stain is from the Stain Alliance.

Killing what others may call 'bystanders' doesn't alter how many of us you kill.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:42:00 - [575]

Gurenus, your numbers don't agree with our numbers but we have all lost ships over the past few days but what i would like to know is what exactly your motive for this war was? What do you intend to achieve, i think a lot of the people in the alliance would rather go down in their burning ships then give you a single unit of megacyte, the war is a pointless and futile one. You are outgunned, outmanned and are being outfought all over stain.
You have lost battleships and you have lost weapons and you have lost battles, in this pointless war, why are you continuing?



Edited by: Main on 20/07/2003 16:44:23
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:42:00 - [576]

Gurenus, your numbers don't agree with our numbers but we have all lost ships over the past few days but what i would like to know is what exactly your motive for this war was? What do you intend to achieve, i think a lot of the people in the alliance would rather go down in their burning ships then give you a single unit of megacyte, the war is a pointless and futile one. You are outgunned, outmanned and are being outfought all over stain.
You have lost battleships and you have lost weapons and you have lost battles, in this pointless war, why are you continuing?



Edited by: Main on 20/07/2003 16:44:23
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:44:00 - [577]

what else is there to do ? mine bistot like u till u past out ? :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 16:44:00 - [578]

what else is there to do ? mine bistot like u till u past out ? :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 17:44:00 - [579]

seems you guys are bored of this war already though. we have yet to see more action in HM-UVD...


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Posted - 2003.07.20 17:44:00 - [580]

seems you guys are bored of this war already though. we have yet to see more action in HM-UVD...
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Posted - 2003.07.20 17:49:00 - [581]

Hmmm how nice, a war when I'm gone.

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Hmmm how nice, a war when I'm gone.


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Posted - 2003.07.20 17:50:00 - [583]

RUS member count over 100. Stain Alliance member count over 500.

lol peeps use your heads.

Edited by: Wu Tang on 20/07/2003 17:50:39
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RUS member count over 100. Stain Alliance member count over 500.

lol peeps use your heads.

Edited by: Wu Tang on 20/07/2003 17:50:39
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Posted - 2003.07.20 18:06:00 - [585]

"RUS member count over 100. Stain Alliance member count over 500.

lol peeps use your heads."

And mOo had what 14-18 and held an entire region hostage for about a month?

:x




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Posted - 2003.07.20 18:06:00 - [586]

"RUS member count over 100. Stain Alliance member count over 500.

lol peeps use your heads."

And mOo had what 14-18 and held an entire region hostage for about a month?

:x




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Posted - 2003.07.20 18:08:00 - [587]

um .........that was before the patch that fixed the guns and skills


ah, ya know what. i was going to be nice about that but if you can't see the logic in 100 Vs 500 then you must be retarded. not that you could have anywhere close to that number in one system .......hehehe im not even going to get into that

Edited by: Wu Tang on 20/07/2003 18:15:22
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Posted - 2003.07.20 18:08:00 - [588]

um .........that was before the patch that fixed the guns and skills


ah, ya know what. i was going to be nice about that but if you can't see the logic in 100 Vs 500 then you must be retarded. not that you could have anywhere close to that number in one system .......hehehe im not even going to get into that

Edited by: Wu Tang on 20/07/2003 18:15:22
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Posted - 2003.07.20 18:17:00 - [589]

I feel like i'm listening to the Iraqi Information Minister under ******. I've no faith in either side's words but its amusing to listen to.

Just a bunch of bickering and trash talking in this thread.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 18:17:00 - [590]

I feel like i'm listening to the Iraqi Information Minister under ******. I've no faith in either side's words but its amusing to listen to.

Just a bunch of bickering and trash talking in this thread.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 18:18:00 - [591]

I have an idea, if you guys are at war, how about you spend more time killing people, rather than smoking each others ****s and playing pocket billiards with each other on the forums...where is the hatred and contempt for thine enemies!!!!
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Posted - 2003.07.20 18:18:00 - [592]

I have an idea, if you guys are at war, how about you spend more time killing people, rather than smoking each others ****s and playing pocket billiards with each other on the forums...where is the hatred and contempt for thine enemies!!!!
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Posted - 2003.07.20 20:12:00 - [593]

Typically, j0rt brings the level of discussion to his level.


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Typically, j0rt brings the level of discussion to his level.
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Posted - 2003.07.20 20:31:00 - [595]

Give him a break he needs the attention he never got from his mom. He probably resents her for trying to abort him...unsuccessfully. :\

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Give him a break he needs the attention he never got from his mom. He probably resents her for trying to abort him...unsuccessfully. :\

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Posted - 2003.07.20 20:32:00 - [597]

Well somebody just had to do it =)

http://www.theinformationminister.com/press.php?ID=612312246
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Posted - 2003.07.20 20:32:00 - [598]

Well somebody just had to do it =)

http://www.theinformationminister.com/press.php?ID=612312246
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Posted - 2003.07.20 21:57:00 - [599]

Malakite , LOL that was a nice 1 :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 21:57:00 - [600]

Malakite , LOL that was a nice 1 :)
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Posted - 2003.07.20 22:13:00 - [601]

Great link Malakite. had me ROFL.

Wretch, you must be nuts to think we have ever been a hostage here in Stain. I've been here since the beginning and have NEVER-EVER been held up in Stain by anyone. If you read the earlier forums the only complaints about MoO came from Empire space.

And if, by this war, RUS intended on coming in here and trading ship for ship, I'm very disappointed.

Where was this devistating power that was going to kill every one in the Alliance? Your list of members is maybe half right, and has left out many of our large members and many of our original members as well. Could it be that you have seriously misjudged the strength and coordination of so many corps and so many players? Were you just bored and needed some spice?

Even if you manage to trade 1 for 1 (hell even 1 for 10) you will NEVER be able to move one of the Alliance member corps out of Stain much less kill us all. As it stands now you seem to be slowing production down only about 20-25% at max and only to those corps actively defending Stain, which not all are.

How much has your production dropped in this attack?

Just quit while your ahead, or not so far down.

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Posted - 2003.07.20 22:13:00 - [602]

Great link Malakite. had me ROFL.

Wretch, you must be nuts to think we have ever been a hostage here in Stain. I've been here since the beginning and have NEVER-EVER been held up in Stain by anyone. If you read the earlier forums the only complaints about MoO came from Empire space.

And if, by this war, RUS intended on coming in here and trading ship for ship, I'm very disappointed.

Where was this devistating power that was going to kill every one in the Alliance? Your list of members is maybe half right, and has left out many of our large members and many of our original members as well. Could it be that you have seriously misjudged the strength and coordination of so many corps and so many players? Were you just bored and needed some spice?

Even if you manage to trade 1 for 1 (hell even 1 for 10) you will NEVER be able to move one of the Alliance member corps out of Stain much less kill us all. As it stands now you seem to be slowing production down only about 20-25% at max and only to those corps actively defending Stain, which not all are.

How much has your production dropped in this attack?

Just quit while your ahead, or not so far down.

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Grikl
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Posted - 2003.07.20 22:52:00 - [603]

hehehe hell let them come hasent stoped my mining op,s

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Posted - 2003.07.20 22:52:00 - [604]

hehehe hell let them come hasent stoped my mining op,s

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Posted - 2003.07.20 23:42:00 - [605]

its actually been a lot of fun. its just too bad it takes a few hours for the two forces to actually mass and do something. then it lasts for a few minutes and the forces split again. this happens over and over until RUS logs off. SA has almost a 24 watch over the area... and while it may not be as strong as RUS it quickly becomes so.

and there really hasnt been much trash talking over local and such that i have seen. which is always a good thing imo.

and j0rt how 'bout u stop trolling and stop in stain... we will show you a good time.


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Posted - 2003.07.20 23:42:00 - [606]

its actually been a lot of fun. its just too bad it takes a few hours for the two forces to actually mass and do something. then it lasts for a few minutes and the forces split again. this happens over and over until RUS logs off. SA has almost a 24 watch over the area... and while it may not be as strong as RUS it quickly becomes so.

and there really hasnt been much trash talking over local and such that i have seen. which is always a good thing imo.

and j0rt how 'bout u stop trolling and stop in stain... we will show you a good time.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 00:44:00 - [607]

Wrangler, show me a rule plz where it sais only english is allowed. thx.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 00:44:00 - [608]

Wrangler, show me a rule plz where it sais only english is allowed. thx.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 01:20:00 - [609]

When the going gets tough, RUS gets to logging. That appears to be their general tactics. Not quite the "we'll slaughter all of Stain Alliance because we are soooo powerful" that was spouted in their post. Yes, everyone's in awe of the l33t dock and log skills of the RUS fleet.

Now if for once you can only succeed in pushing back an SA battlegroup before you log out to save your hides, this might actually be classified as a war and not just an annoyance.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 01:20:00 - [610]

When the going gets tough, RUS gets to logging. That appears to be their general tactics. Not quite the "we'll slaughter all of Stain Alliance because we are soooo powerful" that was spouted in their post. Yes, everyone's in awe of the l33t dock and log skills of the RUS fleet.

Now if for once you can only succeed in pushing back an SA battlegroup before you log out to save your hides, this might actually be classified as a war and not just an annoyance.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 02:44:00 - [611]

Morpeus, is it really so hard to understand?? Most of your posts just smell bs.
And about russian... it's about respect for the other forum members... How would it be with all these posts in french/german/icelandic/swedish etc etc were lots of EVE-players come from. And russian is very hard to understand a single word from...
Please, stick to english. If you don't like that, then send your post directly to RUS ingame.

As I've said, I can only assume the only reason for this war is that several memberes of RUS are bored because of the lack of content. If player owned stations had been introduced one week ago, there would probably had not been this war.

And since RUS are not stupid, they understand that what was said by Ron1n in the first post will never be carried out. But I'm sure both sides, by far, have their best time in EVE to this date. I'm just sorry I'm not online to bee there in the battle.

*edit*
And it's not hard to see:
RUS are russians. SA are EU/USA. When most SA members are online, it's already far beyond mid night in Russia... That's why RUS says it takes a year for SA to gather a fleet, and why SA says RUS just log all the time ;)


Edited by: dalman on 21/07/2003 02:50:10

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Posted - 2003.07.21 02:44:00 - [612]

Morpeus, is it really so hard to understand?? Most of your posts just smell bs.
And about russian... it's about respect for the other forum members... How would it be with all these posts in french/german/icelandic/swedish etc etc were lots of EVE-players come from. And russian is very hard to understand a single word from...
Please, stick to english. If you don't like that, then send your post directly to RUS ingame.

As I've said, I can only assume the only reason for this war is that several memberes of RUS are bored because of the lack of content. If player owned stations had been introduced one week ago, there would probably had not been this war.

And since RUS are not stupid, they understand that what was said by Ron1n in the first post will never be carried out. But I'm sure both sides, by far, have their best time in EVE to this date. I'm just sorry I'm not online to bee there in the battle.

*edit*
And it's not hard to see:
RUS are russians. SA are EU/USA. When most SA members are online, it's already far beyond mid night in Russia... That's why RUS says it takes a year for SA to gather a fleet, and why SA says RUS just log all the time ;)


Edited by: dalman on 21/07/2003 02:50:10
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Posted - 2003.07.21 02:48:00 - [613]

dalman, i asked Wrangler, didnt need to hear ur view on the matter really...
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Posted - 2003.07.21 02:48:00 - [614]

dalman, i asked Wrangler, didnt need to hear ur view on the matter really...
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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:04:00 - [615]

Sure... But I don't think the responce of Wrangler will be very different. I think I'm still to read any post written in another language than english, except for russian.

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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:04:00 - [616]

Sure... But I don't think the responce of Wrangler will be very different. I think I'm still to read any post written in another language than english, except for russian.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:13:00 - [617]

i hope the SA kicks those Russki's right in the gonads and see them off.....


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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:13:00 - [618]

i hope the SA kicks those Russki's right in the gonads and see them off.....


GO GO GO Stain Allience!!




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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:19:00 - [619]

double posting is just a symbol of doubling the casualties numbers :)
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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:19:00 - [620]

double posting is just a symbol of doubling the casualties numbers :)
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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:21:00 - [621]

dalman, if they dont want foreign languages - i want them to write it in the rules...im not gonna guess what the admins want or dont want me to do. i pay for the use of this forum, which means i can do anything i want withing the rules, right? right...dont want any clickerhappy griefer moderators going after my ass :P
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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:21:00 - [622]

dalman, if they dont want foreign languages - i want them to write it in the rules...im not gonna guess what the admins want or dont want me to do. i pay for the use of this forum, which means i can do anything i want withing the rules, right? right...dont want any clickerhappy griefer moderators going after my ass :P
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Posted - 2003.07.21 03:35:00 - [623]

This one for Wrangler:

Шла я как то мимо МУРа:
Из окошка, вижу, - хуй!
Это мой милёнок Шура
Шлёт воздушный поцелуй.

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This one for Wrangler:

Шла я как то мимо МУРа:
Из окошка, вижу, - хуй!
Это мой милёнок Шура
Шлёт воздушный поцелуй.

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Posted - 2003.07.21 04:01:00 - [625]

And to this day...nothing wortwhile ever came out of Russia. Lets put em to sleep.







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Posted - 2003.07.21 04:01:00 - [626]

And to this day...nothing wortwhile ever came out of Russia. Lets put em to sleep.







The name's johnnyblaze ain't a damn thing changed.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 04:09:00 - [627]

So many random comments.. (this is one of them)

Mass - A part of the Stain Alliance
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So many random comments.. (this is one of them)

Mass - A part of the Stain Alliance
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Posted - 2003.07.21 06:38:00 - [629]

to bring the topic back into focus...
good fight today guys. i personally learned a lot at the end. some of your pushes were brilliant and daring, yet paid off! i hope to fight some more, because this really is not hurting my corp at all. actually production is up 30% in all sectors due to war time "excitement". we are taking little losses and my only complaint it the long waiting periods (happen in every game) and you guys logging off so fast! ; )


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Posted - 2003.07.21 06:38:00 - [630]

to bring the topic back into focus...
good fight today guys. i personally learned a lot at the end. some of your pushes were brilliant and daring, yet paid off! i hope to fight some more, because this really is not hurting my corp at all. actually production is up 30% in all sectors due to war time "excitement". we are taking little losses and my only complaint it the long waiting periods (happen in every game) and you guys logging off so fast! ; )
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Posted - 2003.07.21 07:06:00 - [631]

lol @ Malakite. keep the fight up guys :D
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Posted - 2003.07.21 07:06:00 - [632]

lol @ Malakite. keep the fight up guys :D
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Posted - 2003.07.21 08:50:00 - [633]

I wonder how this will all end.



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Posted - 2003.07.21 08:50:00 - [634]

I wonder how this will all end.



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Aileea
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Posted - 2003.07.21 09:54:00 - [635]

I wonder if a mod can change the title of this thread to "Stain Alliance slightly inconvenienced!"
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Posted - 2003.07.21 09:54:00 - [636]

I wonder if a mod can change the title of this thread to "Stain Alliance slightly inconvenienced!"
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:12:00 - [637]

Quote:
I wonder if a mod can change the title of this thread to "Stain Alliance slightly inconvenienced!"
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LOOOOOOOOL :-)
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I wonder if a mod can change the title of this thread to "Stain Alliance slightly inconvenienced!"
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LOOOOOOOOL :-)
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I'M not a carebear, I'M a total coward, beware of cornerd carebares and cowards, we winge and cry like cornered pirates..........
V'cassLord Daeth
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:14:00 - [639]

This topic has become pure lameness...i'm sorry but it has...you could compile all the interesting and relevant info into about 2 posts. the rest is just flaming ***ness.

oops i just added somemore....lol


Edited by: V'cassLord Daeth on 21/07/2003 10:15:17
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:14:00 - [640]

This topic has become pure lameness...i'm sorry but it has...you could compile all the interesting and relevant info into about 2 posts. the rest is just flaming ***ness.

oops i just added somemore....lol


Edited by: V'cassLord Daeth on 21/07/2003 10:15:17
Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:15:00 - [641]

I do not belong to any Alliance or pirate group...
All I can say is that we are having a typical War-Topic here, with a lot of alt-like post, having uninteressant posts/flamming posts.

That's a pain to read all these BS posts...that as far as I can read are from SA, RUS communicating with true characters.

Due to these BS posts, being neutral of course, I tend to beleive RUS rather than SA.

That makes me think to Fox News..."Hello, we spread BS! Beleive us!". (Flamming Expected)

I expect more neutral posts. Wy not send some Polaris members as reporters?
They're supposed to be neutral, they got good defence and are easy to recognize, so fighters can't make the mistake...That'd be really great and more beleivable than posts from any of the involved players.

Reagrding RUS tactics...and ignoring any comment from SA supporters/members, what should they do?
They are outnumbered, and the use the best tactic they can...It's easy to say "you got no balls" when you got 5 times more members...What will you do if it was the contrary?

I'm sure they planned their attack at least 4 days before the announcement. And so? Any wise warrior prepares/plans its moves. Sorry for anonymous BS guys, but if you expected to see a 200 BS fleet that'd have destroyed all on its way within 2/3 hours you have watch too much movies...War is always long, information is always partial/incomplete.

Anyway, I'm glad to see RUS creating some event ingame. SA is simply acting as a big capitalist corp...Even if it's most of the purpose of Eve, RUS has balls to attack bigger than them, without fearing to loose their ships.

This is almost a David vs Goliath fight...
...Stay tuned for more fub :P
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:15:00 - [642]

I do not belong to any Alliance or pirate group...
All I can say is that we are having a typical War-Topic here, with a lot of alt-like post, having uninteressant posts/flamming posts.

That's a pain to read all these BS posts...that as far as I can read are from SA, RUS communicating with true characters.

Due to these BS posts, being neutral of course, I tend to beleive RUS rather than SA.

That makes me think to Fox News..."Hello, we spread BS! Beleive us!". (Flamming Expected)

I expect more neutral posts. Wy not send some Polaris members as reporters?
They're supposed to be neutral, they got good defence and are easy to recognize, so fighters can't make the mistake...That'd be really great and more beleivable than posts from any of the involved players.

Reagrding RUS tactics...and ignoring any comment from SA supporters/members, what should they do?
They are outnumbered, and the use the best tactic they can...It's easy to say "you got no balls" when you got 5 times more members...What will you do if it was the contrary?

I'm sure they planned their attack at least 4 days before the announcement. And so? Any wise warrior prepares/plans its moves. Sorry for anonymous BS guys, but if you expected to see a 200 BS fleet that'd have destroyed all on its way within 2/3 hours you have watch too much movies...War is always long, information is always partial/incomplete.

Anyway, I'm glad to see RUS creating some event ingame. SA is simply acting as a big capitalist corp...Even if it's most of the purpose of Eve, RUS has balls to attack bigger than them, without fearing to loose their ships.

This is almost a David vs Goliath fight...
...Stay tuned for more fub :P
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:28:00 - [643]

On behalf of all those who have been assaulted and intimidated by the accursed Stain Alliance in the past I applaud your actions, RUS!

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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:28:00 - [644]

On behalf of all those who have been assaulted and intimidated by the accursed Stain Alliance in the past I applaud your actions, RUS!

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Bambi
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:51:00 - [645]

This thread should get the babbling thread of the month award...

As for languages other than English, bring em on. I am sure that uin the universe of EVE English is not the only language spoken. I mean can you imagine a race decended from the French acually speaking English? I am sure most French people would rather stop drinking wine than speak English.
On the language tip also, anyone ever use Systrans when playing MMORPG's. I only ever played Ultima Online and it worked 'fairly' well on there. Could it be implimented into EVE, I doubt it but its a thought anyway.....


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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:51:00 - [646]

This thread should get the babbling thread of the month award...

As for languages other than English, bring em on. I am sure that uin the universe of EVE English is not the only language spoken. I mean can you imagine a race decended from the French acually speaking English? I am sure most French people would rather stop drinking wine than speak English.
On the language tip also, anyone ever use Systrans when playing MMORPG's. I only ever played Ultima Online and it worked 'fairly' well on there. Could it be implimented into EVE, I doubt it but its a thought anyway.....




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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:57:00 - [647]

Thx for proper attention to all,especially to Sybylle and Athule Snanm.
IMHO topic must be closed.

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Rust
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:57:00 - [648]

Original RUS STATEMENT
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Oficial press release:
From this minute RUS Corporation breaks all diplomacy contacts with Stain alliance and all alliances which has any contacts with MASS Corporation. This step has been caused, numerous violations of the charter of alliance by MASS Corporation. The fact of actual attack of our CEO by member of MASS Corporation while he huted NPC pirates in one of the systems controlled by alliance can't be forgiven.
Today head of corporation sanctioned attack on any of members of Stain allinace, anywhere in universe. If corporation is no longer member of Stain alliance it will not be attacked. Only way to stop our troops is pay to RUS Corpotration 100.000 Megacyte and 100.000 Zydrine. Until then it's a war.
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RUS Corp. press secretary


I do agree that RUS had planned and prepared for this war well before hand. Good tactics, and excellent organisation. However, it does show that the reason given for this war was a total lie - as we have said from the start (and I was there and saw how Ron1n attacked and killed without provication).

Stain are defending themselves here - we are not the bad guys. We are really enjoying the confrontation, and there was really no reason to make a pretence of being the wronged party, or the ludicruious claims of SA ships killed.

The tone of the statement also does not agree with the run and log tactics we see. Good for a pirate corp, but not for the mighty wronged RUS who demand 100k of this and 100k of that.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:57:00 - [649]

Original RUS STATEMENT
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Oficial press release:
From this minute RUS Corporation breaks all diplomacy contacts with Stain alliance and all alliances which has any contacts with MASS Corporation. This step has been caused, numerous violations of the charter of alliance by MASS Corporation. The fact of actual attack of our CEO by member of MASS Corporation while he huted NPC pirates in one of the systems controlled by alliance can't be forgiven.
Today head of corporation sanctioned attack on any of members of Stain allinace, anywhere in universe. If corporation is no longer member of Stain alliance it will not be attacked. Only way to stop our troops is pay to RUS Corpotration 100.000 Megacyte and 100.000 Zydrine. Until then it's a war.
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RUS Corp. press secretary


I do agree that RUS had planned and prepared for this war well before hand. Good tactics, and excellent organisation. However, it does show that the reason given for this war was a total lie - as we have said from the start (and I was there and saw how Ron1n attacked and killed without provication).

Stain are defending themselves here - we are not the bad guys. We are really enjoying the confrontation, and there was really no reason to make a pretence of being the wronged party, or the ludicruious claims of SA ships killed.

The tone of the statement also does not agree with the run and log tactics we see. Good for a pirate corp, but not for the mighty wronged RUS who demand 100k of this and 100k of that.
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Evil Noobs

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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:57:00 - [650]

Thx for proper attention to all,especially to Sybylle and Athule Snanm.
IMHO topic must be closed.

Endyl
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:58:00 - [651]

>As for languages other than English, bring em
>on. I am sure that uin the universe of EVE
>English is not the only language spoken. I
>mean can you imagine a race decended from the
>French acually speaking English? I am sure
>most French people would rather stop drinking
>wine than speak English.

I am french speaking and still think that forum should stick to ONE language, let it be English... :)

Maybe Polaris should add some "language community" forums, like on PlanetSide forums.


Endyl
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Posted - 2003.07.21 10:58:00 - [652]

>As for languages other than English, bring em
>on. I am sure that uin the universe of EVE
>English is not the only language spoken. I
>mean can you imagine a race decended from the
>French acually speaking English? I am sure
>most French people would rather stop drinking
>wine than speak English.

I am french speaking and still think that forum should stick to ONE language, let it be English... :)

Maybe Polaris should add some "language community" forums, like on PlanetSide forums.


Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.07.21 11:59:00 - [653]

@Rust

As I said, during a war information is partial/incomplete.

In the real world, do you beleive everything politicians say?
Do you need a good reason to make a war? Or better, do you need a justification to attack somebody...I think you need.
Does this reason needs to be valid? No. It doesn't matter. Your purpose is not to communicate the truth. Your purpose is the war.
Being in a war situation, nobody should matter to information but fight.

Plus, do you think RUS will have taken 100K of each ore and stopped the war if SA gaved them?
Don't you think it's more funny to fight real players, when you know you can afford some spare ships in order not to start the game from the begining ?

I guess RUS had attacked anyway SA, even if they had payed. Why? Because it was a war declaration, and RUS shown us that ounce they say something, they did it. And for that I respect this corp, even if we won't play together or commerce together.

Since the release, we have seen a lot of declaration, a lot of people saying "we'll kill U all"...I've also seen some Gallente declaring war to Amarr through noob corps...Does something like this war happened before? No...

And all that only because too many people play have too seriously and with the only purpose to be the best in all the universe...Does it really matter? When you're the best, what do you earn? Just the power to buy all you want...Does it brings you some fun? Do you think mega-corps will really engage in a big war? Probably no, because they will fear to loose their place in the top 10...
So the only way to make a corp war is the David vs Goliath war...This is the only condition to make the mega-corp accept to fight.
SA can be as user friendly as RUS I think.
But RUS probably thinks much to FUN and SA more to ISK...

I do not blame SA...They got a lot of players and it should be hard to organize.
But if I got the choice, I'll prefer to be in a smaller corp than in a 150+ player corp, where you become a number instead of a member.

I hope more events like this one will occur...It's really funny :p

Somebody should create a reporter corp...That would be great :D
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Posted - 2003.07.21 11:59:00 - [654]

@Rust

As I said, during a war information is partial/incomplete.

In the real world, do you beleive everything politicians say?
Do you need a good reason to make a war? Or better, do you need a justification to attack somebody...I think you need.
Does this reason needs to be valid? No. It doesn't matter. Your purpose is not to communicate the truth. Your purpose is the war.
Being in a war situation, nobody should matter to information but fight.

Plus, do you think RUS will have taken 100K of each ore and stopped the war if SA gaved them?
Don't you think it's more funny to fight real players, when you know you can afford some spare ships in order not to start the game from the begining ?

I guess RUS had attacked anyway SA, even if they had payed. Why? Because it was a war declaration, and RUS shown us that ounce they say something, they did it. And for that I respect this corp, even if we won't play together or commerce together.

Since the release, we have seen a lot of declaration, a lot of people saying "we'll kill U all"...I've also seen some Gallente declaring war to Amarr through noob corps...Does something like this war happened before? No...

And all that only because too many people play have too seriously and with the only purpose to be the best in all the universe...Does it really matter? When you're the best, what do you earn? Just the power to buy all you want...Does it brings you some fun? Do you think mega-corps will really engage in a big war? Probably no, because they will fear to loose their place in the top 10...
So the only way to make a corp war is the David vs Goliath war...This is the only condition to make the mega-corp accept to fight.
SA can be as user friendly as RUS I think.
But RUS probably thinks much to FUN and SA more to ISK...

I do not blame SA...They got a lot of players and it should be hard to organize.
But if I got the choice, I'll prefer to be in a smaller corp than in a 150+ player corp, where you become a number instead of a member.

I hope more events like this one will occur...It's really funny :p

Somebody should create a reporter corp...That would be great :D
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Posted - 2003.07.21 12:02:00 - [655]

does not matter what the reason is, what matters is that what needs to get done will be done .
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Posted - 2003.07.21 12:02:00 - [656]

does not matter what the reason is, what matters is that what needs to get done will be done .
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If it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it is probably a chicken that CCP ****ed up.
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Posted - 2003.07.21 12:20:00 - [657]

RUS are stalinists........ let them die in the flames of their own making
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Posted - 2003.07.21 12:20:00 - [658]

RUS are stalinists........ let them die in the flames of their own making
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Posted - 2003.07.21 12:27:00 - [659]

Ordetta : example of unusefull comment.
At least it's propaganda :D

@Raidakaoz --> was a reply to rust
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Ordetta : example of unusefull comment.
At least it's propaganda :D

@Raidakaoz --> was a reply to rust
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Posted - 2003.07.21 12:33:00 - [661]

Moved from General Discussion - Pann

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Posted - 2003.07.21 15:04:00 - [663]

Pann...next time just add where U moved it :)
Thanks

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Pann...next time just add where U moved it :)
Thanks

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Posted - 2003.07.21 18:29:00 - [665]

all i have to say is that im having a great time. i log on, undock to see 7 RUS BS's and 4 RUS cruisers all around the station trying to lock onto me, which gives me 2 choices...dock again or warp b4 they can start to target me Laughing. later on it starts off with light battles usually at gates/station, where sometimes SA forces have to jump/dock, and other times RUS forces have to dock/jump. I personally havent destroyed any of RUS's ships. Ive armor'd alot of cruisers and some BS's, and ive had my BS taked to armor twice now b4 ive had to dock/jump (54% armor is the lowest so far), but still this past week has been the best in eve (retail and beta). I just hope it doesnt turn into the worse if i lose my BS Shocked

GJ RUS & SA



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Posted - 2003.07.21 18:29:00 - [666]

all i have to say is that im having a great time. i log on, undock to see 7 RUS BS's and 4 RUS cruisers all around the station trying to lock onto me, which gives me 2 choices...dock again or warp b4 they can start to target me Laughing. later on it starts off with light battles usually at gates/station, where sometimes SA forces have to jump/dock, and other times RUS forces have to dock/jump. I personally havent destroyed any of RUS's ships. Ive armor'd alot of cruisers and some BS's, and ive had my BS taked to armor twice now b4 ive had to dock/jump (54% armor is the lowest so far), but still this past week has been the best in eve (retail and beta). I just hope it doesnt turn into the worse if i lose my BS Shocked

GJ RUS & SA
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Posted - 2003.07.22 20:18:00 - [667]

Edited by: Tallon on 22/07/2003 20:20:43
Dam Pann moved this thread and now it is dead :(

It was the best thread around besided the playboy one and the darwin awards (now missing).

I was in one of the great battles Sunday. Thanks RUS for the fun. It was well worth my 300k ISK loss due to rapid repairing jobs to my ship to keep it in the fight.

Most memorable moment was when my wing man in a Kestral announced that he was "going in". I laughed looking at the 4 bs's and cruisers RUS had. I then saw / herd his launchers firing so I looked for him and saw a line of heavy missles between his ship and a RUS BS. I persionally saw 3 impacts before I had to defend my own ship. He actually made it out alive with like 3% hull.

On the other hand we did lose a Kestral who did not get a shot off. Oooo well 150k lost :) I think that pilot got podded due to the massive firepower that hit his ship.

This is a lot of fun RUS keep it up... Maybe we can visit your home turf soon if it is in 0.0 space.

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Edited by: Tallon on 22/07/2003 20:20:43
Dam Pann moved this thread and now it is dead :(

It was the best thread around besided the playboy one and the darwin awards (now missing).

I was in one of the great battles Sunday. Thanks RUS for the fun. It was well worth my 300k ISK loss due to rapid repairing jobs to my ship to keep it in the fight.

Most memorable moment was when my wing man in a Kestral announced that he was "going in". I laughed looking at the 4 bs's and cruisers RUS had. I then saw / herd his launchers firing so I looked for him and saw a line of heavy missles between his ship and a RUS BS. I persionally saw 3 impacts before I had to defend my own ship. He actually made it out alive with like 3% hull.

On the other hand we did lose a Kestral who did not get a shot off. Oooo well 150k lost :) I think that pilot got podded due to the massive firepower that hit his ship.

This is a lot of fun RUS keep it up... Maybe we can visit your home turf soon if it is in 0.0 space.

Tallon
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Posted - 2003.07.22 20:28:00 - [669]

It has been A great war so far, a few fantastic kills and a few near miss's, Phew!!(weve lost some ships too)
And Yes Tallon, it would be nice if we could play the agresser but RUS live out in empire space.

We could throw a few insults, but thats the only thing we can do if the Cozzers are about.



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Posted - 2003.07.22 20:28:00 - [670]

It has been A great war so far, a few fantastic kills and a few near miss's, Phew!!(weve lost some ships too)
And Yes Tallon, it would be nice if we could play the agresser but RUS live out in empire space.

We could throw a few insults, but thats the only thing we can do if the Cozzers are about.



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Posted - 2003.07.22 21:06:00 - [671]

Definitely the only decent battles I've seen in retail. At least RUS sticks around for a little while before the ole dock & log routine... unlike the other corp SA had to eject from stain. That was more like going to a slam dance at a preschool. Rolling Eyes
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Posted - 2003.07.22 21:06:00 - [672]

Definitely the only decent battles I've seen in retail. At least RUS sticks around for a little while before the ole dock & log routine... unlike the other corp SA had to eject from stain. That was more like going to a slam dance at a preschool. Rolling Eyes
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Posted - 2003.07.24 16:14:00 - [673]

Is the war still going on?
Very little new info on the forums...

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Posted - 2003.07.24 16:14:00 - [674]

Is the war still going on?
Very little new info on the forums...
Am I forced to have any regret?
I've become the lie, beautiful and free
In my righteous own mind
I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 24/07/2003 18:00:00
Edited by: Halseth Durn on 24/07/2003 17:59:40
End of Conflict?


I know you guys are having a lot of fun with the war. Nothing gets the adrenalin flowing like a little pvp combat with such high stakes. But from what I am reading here, it sounds to be getting a little mundane. (Undock, Fire, Dock) So I have a suggestion to help all end this conflict(for the time being) and settle the dispute at hand while still saving face for all involved.

Twisted EvilTHUNDERDOMETwisted Evil


1. Warring parties RUS and SA each form a fleet of their "best of the best" Warriors that would make the ultimate sacrifice for their cause. Each fleet will be equal in size. Composed of 4 battleshps, 8 cruisers, and 10 frigates.

2. Battle Location A nuetral location is selected outside of the Stain region at a moon or planet. Warring parties are given one day to scout location and set up bookmarks for fleet manuvers. A set number of nuetral observers/press may attend in a noob ship at a set bookmark.

3. Battle Conditions No members of either party may leave the vacinity of the battle. Besides that, anything goes Very Happy. However ALL ships involved must engage in some form. Running is forbidden. Podding is forbidden. All podded players may stay and observe the remaining battle from the same location as the press/observers.

4. Battle/Dispute conclusionLast ship functioning decides the victor. Period. Victory is declared by the lead nuetral observer. There are no appeals. Battle reports/screenshots are then filed by observers in a seperate thread.
Members of the SA or RUS may not post under this thread.

5. Spoils of war The victorious party has all salvage rights to all equipment left on the battle field. All spoils must be claimed within 30 minutes after the conclusion of battle.

Armistice

After completion of THUNDERDOME, RUS corp agrees to not enter the Stain region for a period of one month and a galactic NAP is agreed to by both parties for the same period of time. Agreement to participate in this challenge of mettle binds both parties to ALL of the conditions listed above.

end of proposal



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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 24/07/2003 18:00:00
Edited by: Halseth Durn on 24/07/2003 17:59:40
End of Conflict?


I know you guys are having a lot of fun with the war. Nothing gets the adrenalin flowing like a little pvp combat with such high stakes. But from what I am reading here, it sounds to be getting a little mundane. (Undock, Fire, Dock) So I have a suggestion to help all end this conflict(for the time being) and settle the dispute at hand while still saving face for all involved.

Twisted EvilTHUNDERDOMETwisted Evil


1. Warring parties RUS and SA each form a fleet of their "best of the best" Warriors that would make the ultimate sacrifice for their cause. Each fleet will be equal in size. Composed of 4 battleshps, 8 cruisers, and 10 frigates.

2. Battle Location A nuetral location is selected outside of the Stain region at a moon or planet. Warring parties are given one day to scout location and set up bookmarks for fleet manuvers. A set number of nuetral observers/press may attend in a noob ship at a set bookmark.

3. Battle Conditions No members of either party may leave the vacinity of the battle. Besides that, anything goes Very Happy. However ALL ships involved must engage in some form. Running is forbidden. Podding is forbidden. All podded players may stay and observe the remaining battle from the same location as the press/observers.

4. Battle/Dispute conclusionLast ship functioning decides the victor. Period. Victory is declared by the lead nuetral observer. There are no appeals. Battle reports/screenshots are then filed by observers in a seperate thread.
Members of the SA or RUS may not post under this thread.

5. Spoils of war The victorious party has all salvage rights to all equipment left on the battle field. All spoils must be claimed within 30 minutes after the conclusion of battle.

Armistice

After completion of THUNDERDOME, RUS corp agrees to not enter the Stain region for a period of one month and a galactic NAP is agreed to by both parties for the same period of time. Agreement to participate in this challenge of mettle binds both parties to ALL of the conditions listed above.

end of proposal



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Posted - 2003.07.24 21:22:00 - [677]

Halseth,

This war isn't about "seeing who the best fighter is".

It's about territory.

We have it.
RUS don't.

Simple.


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Halseth,

This war isn't about "seeing who the best fighter is".

It's about territory.

We have it.
RUS don't.

Simple.
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Posted - 2003.07.24 22:37:00 - [679]

Todays special.

Someone spotted a mining operation by RUS in the core systems. And roumours are what they are, they get wings. Soon a small gang of 5 or 6 newbies sought them out.

After a little consulting these few noobs considered doing something about the big nice cans RUS had planted among their battleships and cruisers.

"Well guys, lets blow the cans and see what happens!"

Said and done these Velator loving newbies blew a few cans for RUS. Of course RUS didn't take this too lighly. And oops they forgot that they where mining in a 0.8 system for protection. When they opened fire on these poor newbies Big Daddy Concord came to the rescue.

Result up to this date. Five cruisers got rightfully blown to pieces by Concord while protecting the noob ships. Large amount of ore was allso destroyd while Velator had some target practice and not one of the newbies got seriously hurt.

I can Imagine that RUS replis to this soon to try to lower their shame.

Have a nice day Laughing
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Posted - 2003.07.24 22:37:00 - [680]

Todays special.

Someone spotted a mining operation by RUS in the core systems. And roumours are what they are, they get wings. Soon a small gang of 5 or 6 newbies sought them out.

After a little consulting these few noobs considered doing something about the big nice cans RUS had planted among their battleships and cruisers.

"Well guys, lets blow the cans and see what happens!"

Said and done these Velator loving newbies blew a few cans for RUS. Of course RUS didn't take this too lighly. And oops they forgot that they where mining in a 0.8 system for protection. When they opened fire on these poor newbies Big Daddy Concord came to the rescue.

Result up to this date. Five cruisers got rightfully blown to pieces by Concord while protecting the noob ships. Large amount of ore was allso destroyd while Velator had some target practice and not one of the newbies got seriously hurt.

I can Imagine that RUS replis to this soon to try to lower their shame.

Have a nice day Laughing
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Posted - 2003.07.24 22:40:00 - [681]

Understood, Joshua.
But RUS and SA already appear to be settling this disagreement on the battlefield. I was trying to offer a way to settle it without it draging on for longer than it should. When the time comes for peace, both parties may want to resolve this matter in this way if another solution is not found by then. Besides, it sounds like fun, huh? Very Happy


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Posted - 2003.07.24 22:40:00 - [682]

Understood, Joshua.
But RUS and SA already appear to be settling this disagreement on the battlefield. I was trying to offer a way to settle it without it draging on for longer than it should. When the time comes for peace, both parties may want to resolve this matter in this way if another solution is not found by then. Besides, it sounds like fun, huh? Very Happy


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Posted - 2003.07.24 22:50:00 - [683]

Lol Egwene Laughing
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Lol Egwene Laughing
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Posted - 2003.07.24 22:58:00 - [685]

It is understood that Concord have recieved a demand for minerals from an unknown source.
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Posted - 2003.07.24 22:58:00 - [686]

It is understood that Concord have recieved a demand for minerals from an unknown source.
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Posted - 2003.07.25 04:55:00 - [687]

HAHAHAHAHA just came off a 12 hour midnight shift, read this and burst up laughing Rolling Eyes

for RUS info i donot know anything about this, as the first time ive read abou tit is just now



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Posted - 2003.07.25 04:55:00 - [688]

HAHAHAHAHA just came off a 12 hour midnight shift, read this and burst up laughing Rolling Eyes

for RUS info i donot know anything about this, as the first time ive read abou tit is just now
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Posted - 2003.07.25 07:58:00 - [689]

I take it no formal declaration of war has been issued by either side?

It was my understanding that if SA wanted carte blanche to hit RUS in empire space they only needed to declare war on RUS?
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I take it no formal declaration of war has been issued by either side?

It was my understanding that if SA wanted carte blanche to hit RUS in empire space they only needed to declare war on RUS?
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Posted - 2003.07.25 09:08:00 - [691]

I am surprised why you have not said that we have lost else 15 battleships
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Posted - 2003.07.25 09:08:00 - [692]

I am surprised why you have not said that we have lost else 15 battleships
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Posted - 2003.07.25 09:43:00 - [693]

Before there are any complaints about Concord attacking RUS, can I make it clear they applied to join SA long before this trouble.

However, we had to point out that we could not consider them until their organisation had Battle Ships. Afer a lot of hard work they managed this, and came back to us.

They have started well, but they are on a trial basis, and if we hear any more reports of them attacking innocent playes we will throw them out.
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Before there are any complaints about Concord attacking RUS, can I make it clear they applied to join SA long before this trouble.

However, we had to point out that we could not consider them until their organisation had Battle Ships. Afer a lot of hard work they managed this, and came back to us.

They have started well, but they are on a trial basis, and if we hear any more reports of them attacking innocent playes we will throw them out.
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Posted - 2003.07.25 11:21:00 - [695]

Hal why dot you go back to your little cuppy hole and shup up stay out of it dont need your advice. run your own corp if you can Evil or Very Mad
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Posted - 2003.07.25 11:21:00 - [696]

Hal why dot you go back to your little cuppy hole and shup up stay out of it dont need your advice. run your own corp if you can Evil or Very Mad
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Posted - 2003.07.25 15:22:00 - [697]

LoL I think Halseth is begging to stop the war. A war is a war, it isn't orderly. And that's why its so fun. Cool



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LoL I think Halseth is begging to stop the war. A war is a war, it isn't orderly. And that's why its so fun. Cool
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Posted - 2003.07.25 16:02:00 - [699]

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Begging? Listen, Vanilla Ice, I was suggesting a way to end this conflict in a VERY cool way. Besides, who wouldn't want to watch an actual fleetbattle to the death without people constantly jumping or docking.

Hotfool, who are you? and what is a "cuppy" hole? Shhh, be quiet little person.



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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 25/07/2003 16:16:22
Begging? Listen, Vanilla Ice, I was suggesting a way to end this conflict in a VERY cool way. Besides, who wouldn't want to watch an actual fleetbattle to the death without people constantly jumping or docking.

Hotfool, who are you? and what is a "cuppy" hole? Shhh, be quiet little person.



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Posted - 2003.07.25 17:30:00 - [701]

Hotyu, that comment of yours was a little too agressive...

Hal, well, it would be interesting, yes, but it's not a good idea for this conflict. If I'm not wrong, the alliance had plans to hold games like that (although only frigates/cruisers).

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Hotyu, that comment of yours was a little too agressive...

Hal, well, it would be interesting, yes, but it's not a good idea for this conflict. If I'm not wrong, the alliance had plans to hold games like that (although only frigates/cruisers).
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Posted - 2003.07.27 01:48:00 - [703]

Very funny Rust.

Hal, Thunderdome? what year is this set in? whatever it is i think tina turner died a long time ago.

Its good to see people are still posting on this topic, i thought after pann moved it without warning it would have died.
its the most read topic on the entire forum, well it was last time i checked.


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Posted - 2003.07.27 01:48:00 - [704]

Very funny Rust.

Hal, Thunderdome? what year is this set in? whatever it is i think tina turner died a long time ago.

Its good to see people are still posting on this topic, i thought after pann moved it without warning it would have died.
its the most read topic on the entire forum, well it was last time i checked.


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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:59:00 - [705]

Ron1n said:
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I am surprised why you have not said that we have lost else 15 battleships


Nop, I did stick to facts. Why are you suprised? Didn't you think Stain Alliance would try to win this war my maipulating the facts of casulties...

I did hear some rumours that some other part involved tried that though.

Well, I think all (but some unnamed here parties) agrees on that it was one of the more funny events in the War though.

I allso heard that RUS did try the tactic of stealing and/or destroying Stain Alliance minerals some time back and lost three industrials and perhapps some more frigates. It is only a rumour though, and I'd like a confirmation on that. So don't count that into the statistics.

Have a nice day ya all! Laughing
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:59:00 - [706]

Ron1n said:
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I am surprised why you have not said that we have lost else 15 battleships


Nop, I did stick to facts. Why are you suprised? Didn't you think Stain Alliance would try to win this war my maipulating the facts of casulties...

I did hear some rumours that some other part involved tried that though.

Well, I think all (but some unnamed here parties) agrees on that it was one of the more funny events in the War though.

I allso heard that RUS did try the tactic of stealing and/or destroying Stain Alliance minerals some time back and lost three industrials and perhapps some more frigates. It is only a rumour though, and I'd like a confirmation on that. So don't count that into the statistics.

Have a nice day ya all! Laughing
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Just an update. I believe it has been posted elsewhere. But a mutual cease-fire has been declared in the war SA v. Rus. Rus has withdrawn from the region and more negotiations will take place in 1 weekĘs time to solve the conflict.

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Edited by: Civil Deity on 28/07/2003 05:02:19
Just an update. I believe it has been posted elsewhere. But a mutual cease-fire has been declared in the war SA v. Rus. Rus has withdrawn from the region and more negotiations will take place in 1 weekĘs time to solve the conflict.

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Is the war over? I keep geting un-official information on in-game chat. Can we get an offical post from one of the two sides.

Trigger finger getting itchy again.

Thanks,

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Is the war over? I keep geting un-official information on in-game chat. Can we get an offical post from one of the two sides.

Trigger finger getting itchy again.

Thanks,

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see your CEO about SA news



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see your CEO about SA news
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SA broke sease fire , by atacking our member , wich was aproaching a station. Probably SA think that they are ready for another war. Well u got what u asked for , lets hope this war lasts longer !!

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SA broke sease fire , by atacking our member , wich was aproaching a station. Probably SA think that they are ready for another war. Well u got what u asked for , lets hope this war lasts longer !!

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Woot! Game on! Twisted Evil

It would be nice if you could get some good combat videos from this.


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Edited by: Crepiscule on 04/08/2003 22:10:18
Woot! Game on! Twisted Evil

It would be nice if you could get some good combat videos from this.


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well ummm... if we wernt ready we wouldnt of opened fire Rolling Eyes

Just to set the record straight... U broke the ceasefire by entering stain 2 days ago and mining in OUR HQ, which, according to our rules is an ATC OF WAR. This we did nothing about cause our CEO was away. The next day he got back and u left Stain region. We were told that u had given your word not to enter stain for another week. What did we find the next day we logged in...RUS mining bistot in HM-UVD. So yet again u have broken Your word and the ceasefire rules, and declared war on SA by mining in stain WITHOUT asking for permission.

Yesterday we caught u red handed, and when asked to leave u refused, so we opened fire. U had been given 2 chances, and 2 days to get out of stain or be destroyed, and u failed, so i ask u this... are U ready for war?

I also wonder how many other corps will trust your corp and your word now that u have broken it so many times? becuase it obviously means jack **** to u



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well ummm... if we wernt ready we wouldnt of opened fire Rolling Eyes

Just to set the record straight... U broke the ceasefire by entering stain 2 days ago and mining in OUR HQ, which, according to our rules is an ATC OF WAR. This we did nothing about cause our CEO was away. The next day he got back and u left Stain region. We were told that u had given your word not to enter stain for another week. What did we find the next day we logged in...RUS mining bistot in HM-UVD. So yet again u have broken Your word and the ceasefire rules, and declared war on SA by mining in stain WITHOUT asking for permission.

Yesterday we caught u red handed, and when asked to leave u refused, so we opened fire. U had been given 2 chances, and 2 days to get out of stain or be destroyed, and u failed, so i ask u this... are U ready for war?

I also wonder how many other corps will trust your corp and your word now that u have broken it so many times? becuase it obviously means jack **** to u
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Posted - 2003.08.05 11:00:00 - [719]

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We did nothing about your presence in sa for a few days,you mined and hunted knowing full well you were breaking the cease fire.Cut the crap,cause either you obviously want war and will do whatever it takes to make sure it happens,or actually think someone believes the crap draken just spewed,so which is it because im game for whichever.Btw few hours ago a small fight occured where we the SA lost a bs unfortunatly to a ctd,and Ronin himself went down, good work gents.Id be more than happy to peacefully co-exhist with rus but they cannot be trusted whatsoever.Twisted Evil
Btw i have the upmost respect for Rus's performance thus far in combat,i may not like theyre tactics cause they suck for me on this end but they work,and work well.This has been a fun war all in all but can do without the drama of draken etc .

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Edited by: Erebus on 05/08/2003 11:19:40
We did nothing about your presence in sa for a few days,you mined and hunted knowing full well you were breaking the cease fire.Cut the crap,cause either you obviously want war and will do whatever it takes to make sure it happens,or actually think someone believes the crap draken just spewed,so which is it because im game for whichever.Btw few hours ago a small fight occured where we the SA lost a bs unfortunatly to a ctd,and Ronin himself went down, good work gents.Id be more than happy to peacefully co-exhist with rus but they cannot be trusted whatsoever.Twisted Evil
Btw i have the upmost respect for Rus's performance thus far in combat,i may not like theyre tactics cause they suck for me on this end but they work,and work well.This has been a fun war all in all but can do without the drama of draken etc .

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overstated
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overstated
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