(which are PREDETERMINED)

Well, one observer amongst 500,000 dweebs with more experience than you who know nothing apparently.
Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one, and you're certainly entitled to yours. No one has to take anything I say at face value, I simply know what I have personally observed.

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Predetermined, like in the fatalist sense? Can you post CCP info on this?

But then it's up to others to make sure nobody pays attention to your semi-Troll poasting.

And mis-information for new players.

Lots of assumptions about the mechanics, when the real problem is, even CCP doesn't know how it works...

Why does this not sound very implausible to me?

I'm not trolling, simply because your opinion differs from mine is no reason to resort to slander. Either defend your argument in a logical fashion, or concede that you can only disparage.

Yours is an opinion.
His is a fact.

If you don't believe it, then ask in HelpChat, or the Modules-forum or write a petition and ask a GM.

everyone, including the GMs, can be wrong. Perhaps I am wrong, though I don't believe I am. Regardless, I am not trolling nor attempting to misinform anyone, simply relating what conclusions I have drawn about this based upon my own observations... ever hear of the scientific method?

I'm not trolling, simply because your opinion differs from mine is no reason to resort to slander. Either defend your argument in a logical fashion, or concede that you can only disparage.

because they've pretty much admitted to similar things before? ie, a few years ago when they made a comment about fixing POSs, they backed off by flat out admitting the coding as it was originally done was too complex for them, and the guy who had originally written the code no longer worked for them so they couldn't just assign him to work on it :P

everyone, including the GMs, can be wrong. Perhaps I am wrong, though I don't believe I am. Regardless, I am not trolling nor attempting to misinform anyone, simply relating what conclusions I have drawn about this based upon my own observations... ever hear of the scientific method?

So then you should have records of your experience across various levels of the skill comparing loot site for site, correct?

Why would I take the time to make such records when at the time I had no reason to? I don't purposely set out to conduct research, just when I find it appropriate I pay attention to what is going on to be able to do better myself within the game. My mind, as the saying goes, is my best tool.

Why would I take the time to make such records when at the time I had no reason to? I don't purposely set out to conduct research, just when I find it appropriate I pay attention to what is going on to be able to do better myself within the game. My mind, as the saying goes, is my best tool.

You could take your own advice

I can quote an exact process here.

1) find configuration online
2) launch to new location
3) move to safe spot
4) launch probes (enough for configuration)
5) move all to center (using shift drag)
6) arrange into configuration
7) center probes around blip (using shift drag)
8) size down probes (shift drag and alt drag) so they look smaller
9) scan
10) if less than 100% goto 7
11) get bacon

Not a lot of thinking in the above. It's not like the locations fight back or change the parameters as you scan. That's tedium. It's playing the same chess game over and over again when you know how your opponent will move. Maybe it has more than one move set, but once you've seen all the possible moves, it's the same each and every time. That's the very definition of tedium.

*gives hugs* it's ok, given time we will all someday be able to set some decent graphics for this :)

Would graphics improvements mean getting rid of the damn clouds in missions, anomalies, and exploration sites?

You are such the 12 year old.

I was going to put a Bounty on you, but yours is already high enough.

And we can all understand with your attitude why you have been in (kicked from) 14 Corps in the last 2 years, including "Trolls Under the Bridge".

lol

Exact process:

1) launch probe, move to place x 8
2) scan
3) move
4) resize
5) scan
6) bookmark / warp to location

You scan faster with experience and dealing with doubles, rings and spheres requires at least some thinking. Good scanner finds a route in matter of minutes, bad scanner wastes 45 min to the same job. It's not just dependant on character skills. I've seen level IV scanners struggle.

D-scanner separates the good from the bad even more efficiently.

Both tools could use serious usability improvements, but simplifying the mechanics themselves is really difficult while still maintaining the importance of player skill.

Exactly ^ There is a reason why your probes show spheres and rings in their results. Also there is a reason why signatures have different strengths, and learning to recognise the typical characteristics of scanning signatures will turn a novice into a master.

Also advanced techniques require 8 probe setups which I am sure most the people complaining about scanning don't know about.

*grins* I don't know how many I've run across personally who claim to know it all about probing and insist to me that all you ever need is just 4 probes

dibs on the fleece.

. If your going to attempt to make accusations, why not take the time to actually do the research to back them up first?

Great idea to take your own advice here instead of making preposterous claims.

Troll, most indeed.

because they've pretty much admitted to similar things before? ie, a few years ago when they made a comment about fixing POSs, they backed off by flat out admitting the coding as it was originally done was too complex for them, and the guy who had originally written the code no longer worked for them so they couldn't just assign him to work on it :P