TCs give far superior tracking bonuses, this narrows the gap for range bonuses.

The problem with nerfing RSB's is that it is too hard to get fights without them in many situations. Many players simply want to run away or cloak and warp. An interceptor crashing the gate simply can't be caught without an instalocking 90% web ship on the gate.

Lol wat?
Stop trying to kite in a Thorax hull then.

As someone who predominately flies Gallente, I can only think of Talos & terrible kiting Thorax hulls as the ships that routinely fit TEs. Gallente is the best it's been in a long time, and this nerf to TEs just means people are going to be closer to blaster range

If the best post you can pick from a whole thread is a pile of words that noone is able to comprehend... May be you should consider your sanity?

This change is specifically designed to change the balance between TEs and TCs. TEs still give very good range bonuses, decent tracking bonuses, and do it with less than half the fittings cost of a TC.

I know that this will affect 0.0 fleet doctrines, but shaking up doctrines a bit isn't something we consider a negative.

I don't really get the RSB nerf either. Guy guys we need a way to make burning back to gates easier. Because this game really needs to be more forgiving of pilot error.

I don't really get the RSB nerf either. Guy guys we need a way to make burning back to gates easier. Because this game really needs to be more forgiving of pilot error.

yea, and let's be sure that you can't shoot anyone from too far either. we want everyone to pile on top of each other.

we want all kiting ships to fight in scram range...

wait. what..?

It wont shake up doctrines, only serve to solidify them.

TC fit pulse NaPocs are currently solidly dominant in nullsec, only (ocassionally) challenged by Rokhs (which for the past 4 years havent been used at all until recently).

If you want to shake up doctrines make torp Ravens useable and leave rokhs alone. T3 BCs probably need a range nerf, but not at the expense of every other skirmish style ship.

Shields have never been dominant in anything but small scale hit and run tactics (except for Tengus which is a separate issue altogether). For the past 2+ years its been all amarr armor (or maels just to counter abaddons incredible buffer).

Shield caps and supers are regarded as "unuseable" in major conflicts because there are no solid shield subcap doctrines. God forbid you buy a Hel, theyre pathetic compared to anything else.

This is hilarious. Now the RLM cerb / caracal are basically unstoppable. In-fact with these changes, HMLs may again become king. If my drake / caracal / cerb / cyclone can now sit at 28K and have nothing but heavy fall off from guns, then dropping tank mods for TP's will be very viable- thus making up for HML short comings.

You know i was concerned with the missile changes at first (i didn't have any gun skills) but now I am glad I didn't waste much time traning into turrets.

CCP why is it your desire to destroy nano / kiting ships? You had relegated it down to a select few ships, but now you have basically booted most of those ships away. Turret based cruisers that are not the zealot are now unplayable.

As for all of the winmatards need dat nerf- have you ever looked at EFT? Do you realize that even with out the nerf most cruiser based minni ships (minus sleip) have horrible damage application at 24/28 k? Hurricane was never that good, and it certainly wasn't during the time of the drake.

CCP do you even play this game?

Accept the fact that there's ships that you won't be able to kill. Life is harsh, you have to live with it.

It's easy to use EFT to find out the effect this would have because the current meta 0 tracking enhancer is the same as the proposed T2 TE would be after the change (as far as the optimal and falloff bonuses are concerned).

With the SFI for example, the damage isn't exactly spectacular - with 3 T2 gyrostabs and 2 T2 TEs it gets 330 DPS with o/f of 3.9/30 with barrage. This amounts to 250 DPS at a typical kiting range of 20 km. With the nerf this gets reduced to an even more anemic 180 DPS. By comparison an Omen without any range mods at all and a single T2 heatsink gets 250 DPS at 24 km with scorch on HPLs.