But you and the other gallente seem impervious to reason..

it isnt just gallente rubbishing this everyone is

what i dont understand why we should be given this information instead of finding out for ourselves it doesnt seem very sandboxy notifications telling you were people are......

or in the case of backwaters even care that their even there, just bcos i have something telling me were they are doesnt make me care any more than usual

Right now no one cares because the game is broken.

First, you don't speak for everyone. Lots of people understand this.

Second, tons of people are actually IN faction warfare, fighting, having fun. You are not in FW and yet to keep on going and going and going with your ridiculous idea. Those people IN faction warfare keep telling you how wrong you are, but you, NOT being in fw, continue to think we are the ones impervious to reason.

One thing for you tho: you-¦ve manage to make both gallente AND caldari agree on one thing: making fun of your notification crap. That-¦s something I guess.

Any activity in eve that has a lucrative way to make isk is going to attract farmers. In FW you really need a good solid way to pull in money while still engaging in activities in the warzone because you don't want people leaving fw to go make money just to lose it pew pewing in FW. So you have plexing...

lets face the facts,

CCP do not want to get rid of farming hoards because those brings $ to CCP.

Notification system does not change the fact that farmer run anyway when you come to plex. And you can see farmers in almost every non vulnerable systems that is not on some main route people use..

We've had missions tailored (and exclusive) to FW from the beginning, getting ISK was never an issue. The problem in those days was that it is a bonafide PvE activity and as we all know that is beneath the leet population, never mind the fact that spending twice as long getting only half the LP (at tier3) orbiting a button is also really PvE.

Notifications if done 'wrong' will result in people begging CCP for a way to turn them off in settings, at which point you have effectively wasted what precious Dev time was allotted to include it, thankfully there are other ways to go about it.

What I want/desire/need/crave (in no particular order, numbers are to differentiate):
1. Plex NPC's getting their promised tweak. Too easily killed and the time one has to stop all future spawns is way too generous, one or the other has to change..

2a. Missions to be the primary source of LP once again or people given a choice of "LP or VP" after a few seconds of nothing happening on a button.
2b. Missions could (and always should!) have been part of the war were they only given a poison pill system, so I'd look into that as well .. increase rewards if need be (currently using generic calcs). Rebalance them to force the issue of reward appropriate ships (a bomber does not 'deserve' 30k LP for 2 mins work, especially when it is allowed to use non-militia alts as speed tanks).
2c. Either a new set of 'defence' missions be deployed or missions only spawn in hostile space .. makes no sense for a military to launch an attack into already occupied space .. repeatedly!
Reason: Missions are more often than not overlooked, but they have been part of the equation (initial market depression came from missions) since day one and as such should be included..

3. Notifications through the Militia Interface. Either on a tab of its own, it was redesigned to allow for extensions to be added so do it goddamnit or as a flashing/marking of the systems on the systems list page to indicate how many plexes are currently being rotated (ie. in process of respawning). Any further info must come from trawling space (ie. scouting).
Reason: With 70+ systems in play and the update of their contested status in militia interface being delayed it is nigh impossible to determine which, if any, is being targeted before a plexing crew has moved on.

Why should they do it wrong?...

CCP did already fix npcs

Whoever runs more missions gains sov the fastest? Not really a fan. The current system is enough of a carebear race I don't think we need to sink deeper.

Very few care about 90% of the systems. Systems sit vulnerable for ages. A general indicator that says "yep korasen is still vulnerable" is not going to change much. It will still be the fwaction war wabbits that decide sov in 90% of systems.

You need to read that which you reply, preferably before replying my dear

Because it is CCP and they tend to use trial and error when it comes to anything remotely related to human behaviour modifications. That paragraph was the introduction to the rest by the way.

Yes I know, they went with my idea after all .. the plex specific sub set so that they could be changed at will as needs arose without breaking stuff all over the place.
But they launched an infuriatingly watered down rat (singular!) which when killed within an eon prevents all subsequent spawns = stabbed/cloaked frigs/dessies with minimal dps able to do just about all plexes. Quite obviously not enough tank on the things or there is too much time .. as written in the text you replied to.

With missions only to hostile space, poison pills and size appropriate rats/objectives .. again, written in the text you replied to.

That is the way it is now, with interface telling you (with delay) what is contested and by how much. I propose adding data on how many plexes in a given system is in rotation/respawning, that is which systems are being actively plexed.
No one I know would ever go for or indeed support free information about ships and numbers involved, and it is quite frankly not needed as long as people are urged to hunt off the beaten paths .. think of it as a slender plume of smoke rising from the forest, you know someone has a fire going but not much else without having a look see .. again, explained in the text you replied to.

I haven't given up on you Cearain, just trying to help you get you out of the groove you seem to be stuck in.

In fact few other specific fw proposal that had as much support.

We still see notification proposals popping up for example with respect to bunker busts.

-Numbers in the plex
-numbers from each militia or neutrals in plex
-names of people in the plex
-what ship class is in the plex
- what ship type is in the plex
-what militia is in the plex
-how much time is left on the timer

i only ever see them "Pop Up" in your posts




You have got to be kidding me... I serously mean this cerain why dont u ask ccp to magically teleport you into an occupied plex in the perfect counter ship everytime you log in .......... You say your not lazy i beg to differ with that shi.... u posted right there

-names of people in the plex
-what ship class is in the plex

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If you openly attack a military complex do you not think that you will be reported??

What sort of bizarro world is it where you attack a military complex and no one from your own military tells anyone else?

Notifications will dramatically increase the efficiency of pvpers who want to participate in the sov game - and coorrespondingly decrease the efficiency of the rabbits.

capturing, and the gallente are very upset.

Lets summarize their concerns:

-Fear it will now be too easy to kill off the wabbits,
- Fear that pvp will be too easy to find,
-That I am bad at eve, based on observing me for 30 seconds warping out of a system.
-and, of course, accusing me of being lazy because I don't spend more time playing a computer game.

This is XG`s fault.

-Fear it will now be too easy to kill off the wabbits, <---------- dont care about farmers there not worth time/ effort if people want pvp they know where to go

- Fear that pvp will be too easy to find,<---------- PVP is easy to find everyone else apart from you seems to find it

-That I am bad at eve, based on observing me for 30 seconds warping out of a system. <--------- cant comment on that

-and, of course, accusing me of being lazy because I don't spend more time playing a computer game. <---------- no ur not lazy cos u dont spend more time playing it, your lazy for how you want to play it having things gifted to you for no effort

We have now heard from Moe Larry Curly and Shemp.

But what is interesting is how the argument against revealing where the farmers are keeps shifting.

At first the gang of four has been arguing that notifications will effect nothing. It won't make sov war involve any more of a pvp mechanic than it is now.

But now the arguments are doing an about face.
Curly now says it will make pvp too easy to find.
Larry now says we already have so much pvp no one could possibly want more.
Moe just apologizes.
And Shemp admits he really doesn't mind that 90% of the warzone sov is determined by rabbits.

We have now heard from Moe Larry Curly and Shemp.

But what is interesting is how the argument, against revealing where the farmers are, keeps shifting.

At first the gang of four has been arguing that notifications will effect nothing. It won't make sov war involve any more of a pvp mechanic than it is now.

But now the arguments are doing an about face.
Curly now says it will make pvp too easy to find.
Larry now says we already have so much pvp no one could possibly want more.
Moe just apologizes.
And Shemp admits he really doesn't mind that 90% of the warzone sov is determined by rabbits.