XG basically said fw was fixed after they did away with the downtime spawn mechanic.

Edit: Misread. But I'm glad there are 13 people who gave you a thumbs up a long time ago.

Not me a thumbs up they gave the idea of notifications a thumbs up.

Cearain - Not very fair of you to quote Super Chair from 18 months ago regarding a completely different fw system to what we have now.
The thread you mention linked in you sig is so old and before so many fw changes that it's irrelevant now.

The fw we have now isn't too bad - yeah we all want it better but not if it breaks the game.
Notifications are too much easy intel and will not provide organized alliances with any extra information.
We usually know who, what and where the enemy are in the plexes without a notification system.

Forum Likes mean nothing - I have 310 at this time and I have posted one good idea ever. (Flame thrower Modules. They're an awesome idea + I'd wanna hear your drones scream as they burn)



Would also like to say gf to the froggies since we moved the alliance to Enaluri.
It's been good fun fights most nights I log in and bother to undock.

No you really don't know much history of fw or the views of the players posting on these forums.

That would change if we had notifications. The best pvpers in eve would be the most sought after for each militia.

Not me a thumbs up they gave the idea of notifications a thumbs up. There were also and 12 more who did before ccp changed the forums. 25 is not allot

As honorable leader of the coalition of farmer pigs I laugh at ye poor peasant. Why would you ever join FW for anything other then the isk?

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Notification would not prevent farmers from farming. They would still have cloak and WCS, and they would still cloak when you enter.

Notification though would prevent some pvper from pvping, because they would receive a blob each time they open a plex to attempt a not so unfair fight.

Also, it's impossible to make a system where farmers earn less than pvper, because pvper lose ships, because they fight, whereas farmers farm.

A blob can't cover all 170 systems and all 4 different plex sizes. So it would need to split up and fight.

Notifications and timer rollback would mean its more efficient to stay and fight than constantly trying to run and hide. Hence it would end rabbit plexing. But some people think it would make pvp too easy to find.

I am not a fw-guy. But i always asked myself why fw-plexes are so easy that they can be done in stealth-bombers and other frigs?
If a plex would be more difficult - so that i need at least a battlecruiser to complete them, then the pvp-guys would have easier targets and more fun dont they?

A blob can easily cover 4 different plex sizes and in case of Amarr there are significantly less plexes to cover than 170. The result would be that solo in FW (which is already hard) would get impossible. Every time you enter a plex the next nearby blob would appear on scene. This would then also force offenders to blob up and as result we would get the same blob-crap as in 0.0. No thank you.

In a world where the masses eagerly blob and blap the weak and feed on their tears, it amuses me to see so much crying when the prey proves harder to catch.

Is it so terrible that new capsuleers can make a space living doing something no one else wants to do? The same people who complain about farmers are generally hunters who look for fights and have no interest in sitting on buttons for 20 minutes at a time.

Farmers don't actually decrease the amount of fights these people get; they are merely an additional population in FW systems that occasionally give the combat oriented pilots free kills. Will empty systems be somehow more interesting than farmer filled systems if warfare changes so that farming is no longer profitable?

Most farmers I know fall under one of two groups: new pilots making a living while they accumulate the skills to move on to something more interesting or surrogates who fund space battles for other pilots. In the first case, at least it's keeping people in space while they scale the learning cliff. In the second case, it's actively aiding in creating combat for people to find.

There is also a third type of farmer. The kind who enjoys the cat and mouse game of plexing in a system full of pirates and WTs and the thrill of bouncing between celestials at varying warp-to distances, hoping not to accidentally land on top of hostiles or to get caught from behind. The type of pilots who relish every cry of "filthy farmer!" in local and who feed on the disappointment of every blood thirsty hack begging for a fight so they can pad their insignificant kill stats. For us, their tears are sweet sweet nectar.

And if you don't like it, stop being soft and, well, you know the saying.

I would first like to point out that different people are disagreeing with this proposal by claiming it will have completely opposite effects.

A) Some are claiming it will have no effect on rabbits because everyone will just ignore the notifications and no one will come to fight.

B) Others argue too many will come to fight and blobs will win.

Both can't be true.

Most major fleets will not respond to solo pilot running a small plex several jumps away, in fact most large fleets ignore plexers in the system they are currently in. Since they can't get the entire blob in, they usually won't send anyone in since they don't want to lose their tackle.

Yes it can. It can be true for different points in time. E.g. at the beginning when they introduce it B) will be true, because everybody will be eager to use the new tool. After some time rabbits will adapt to it by bouncing between many plexes for a short time to confuse the hunter. So hunters will find out that notifications are not reliable or they will find out they come too often too late and this will result in A) being true for some time. This will then swing forth and back like a pendulum over time. You always have to keep in mind that this is a dynamic game, things which work today might not work tomorrow just because people learn and start to adapt to it.

Most major fleets will not respond to solo pilot running a small plex several jumps away, in fact most large fleets ignore plexers in the system they are currently in. Since they can't get the entire blob in, they usually won't send anyone in since they don't want to lose their tackle.

for them.
All I ask is that we have just one quality pvp mechanic.

Look into FW plexes lately? Great quality pvp mechanic. In fact, you yourself use them all the time to get fights.

Great debate. Thanks everybody for participating. We're done here! Let's move on to another topic.

Would you like to restate your request?

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Thats like saying ccp developed top astroid belts as a pvp mechanic.

Edit: sorry XG but threads like this will continue to pop up as long as fw sov is a carebear race. CCP might as well fix it.

Given all the rage against carebears, maybe you should consider that it's the carebears that actually run the show, and not the peeveepee'ers... Everyone needs the military to be the hammer, but anyone with any intelligence knows it's the EHM's that actually make stuff happen.

But you stick with your big hammer. I'll keep lurking behind the curtain with my alts.

Would you care to link the post with 25 upvotes? I can't find it in this thread. Maybe it is in some other thread somewhere? In fact you are the ONLY person in this thread that I have seen in favor of notifications. I could be wrong. There might be one more person in favor (with everybody else opposed), but the actual data in this thread is clear. The community is opposed to notifications.

Dude, you're answering the same things multiple times now. And again, I'm glad 13 people gave you an upvote years ago and are somewhat disappointed nearly everybody today puts a notification system at the bottom of a list of potential modifications to occupancy warfare plexing mechanics.

The rest of your post is not really intelligible, but thats ok. I don't care how popular you think the proposal is.

I'll make it easy for you. Your notifications proposal has received less support than almost every other proposal out there.