I used to believe the amount of ships involved in a fight is not the absolute factor that determines the outcome but also the skill and tactics of player with the right ship too. But this is gonna make solo pvp much more challenging as it already is.
Have you ccp considered circumstances that involves more tactics than numbers in the fight?
Slowing the talos and Tornado makes them useless in solo pvp, because as of right now they are already slower than a lot of ships that can deliver damage at a similar range. If you slow them down even more, in the situation that I am outnumbered, out-dps, I need to rely on that speed to stay on field.

Taking away those attribute that defines a battlecruiser does not balance the game in anyway besides shaping eve into a game that blobs always wins. One less fun ship to pvp in, more blobs on battlefield. The ship itself might be a good balance. But if you look at a greater picture, the game becomes unbalanced as fewer ships can counter blobs

Honestly curious, what ships are currently out there that are faster than a Talos/Tornado and deliver the same damage at the same range?

I used to believe the amount of ships involved in a fight is not the absolute factor that determines the outcome but also the skill and tactics of player with the right ship too. But this is gonna make solo pvp much more challenging as it already is.
Have you ccp considered circumstances that involves more tactics than numbers in the fight?
Slowing the talos and Tornado makes them useless in solo pvp, because as of right now they are already slower than a lot of ships that can deliver damage at a similar range. If you slow them down even more, in the situation that I am outnumbered, out-dps, I need to rely on that speed to stay on field.

Taking away those attribute that defines a battlecruiser does not balance the game in anyway besides shaping eve into a game that blobs always wins. One less fun ship to pvp in, more blobs on battlefield. The ship itself might be a good balance. But if you look at a greater picture, the game becomes unbalanced as fewer ships can counter blobs

They were not meant for solo PvP.

solo tornado vs typhoon, cane, rupture, kestral, helios:

http://hifi.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16884075
video of the fight : http://youtu.be/oydKiMTz_C4

Solo tornado vs Faction fit webbing loki
http://hifi.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16835878

Tornado gets soloed by stealth bomber
http://hifi.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16348932

Solo tornado vs scram cynabal
http://hifi.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16696016

Solo Tornado vs 11 frig/detroyer gang
http://hifi.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16628958

Solo pvp is possible if you play your tactics right with a creative ship setup. Know what you can do and cannot, and you will have a better chance of survival and sometimes if you are lucky, you just might come out on top in situations like 1 vs blobs, or being outnumbered in small gang roam.

All those links seem to be broken.

I would suggest all weapons sig resolution should be nerfed a little especially as ships sigs seem to be on the up there is no need for frig weapon sig resolutions to be 25 nothing is that size besides light drones

heh how are these killmails relevant , the first even have a jammer
anyway even if it would be truely frig vs talos , even that wouldnt proove much ,

The BS you compared them to have many other advantages that offset them in comparison. While you are correct that the attack BCs are gankier than many of the BS, it's also not fair to ignore the several advantages BS have over these BCs. A megathron (post change) has like 3x more ehp than the talos and similar, if not more overall dps than the talos as well, while also having more utility. While I'm not going to sit here and argue which is better as that's really a moot point, I simply would like to point out that the overall balance between BS and attack BCs is a bit more involved than comparing raw hitting power.

As for your point about the tempest vs Nado... This is probably the most troublesome of the lot, Tempest needs a bit more drone bay I'd say.

I'd have understood if you'd planned to shuffle things around so that this specific line up were the DPS machines of the entire large gun using ships and if you'd made it so none of the BS's used 8 turrets or had double damage bonuses, but as it stands, you've still kept the abilty of some of the BS's to be sub cap DPS machines, so I'm confused.

CCP Rise
what do you think of making these T2 bc's instead?

What would this do other than feed more isk to the OTEC cartel?

:) well that's a different issue for CCP to fix.... making it harder to train and increasing the price would make them less used.
Also its the right thing to do they are using over-sized mods its a clear specialization like logistics cruisers.

They already cost more, and it takes longer to train for large turrets. (We can probably argue forever over how long the training time should be, and how much they should cost...)

one think I can not understood - that NAGA do not have missiles. Why this is the only ship is not using race skills?