It would seem that the POS shoot thing is more of a side effect than a planned role, besides wouldn't you need a supply ship to feed you missles (especially torps) in a POS shoot?

I am not sure if I am shooting a POS I bring an Oracle

And weapon systems. They obsolete:

Nano pest
Arty Pest
Arty Mach (to some extent)
Arty Cane
Sniper Hacs
Medium Rails
Medium Arty
Medium Beams
All other BC's in a shield BC gang
Eagle
Ferox
Active Tanking

Deletion from the game is the only way of balancing these things, they've just screwed everything.

These changes are still way to minor btw.

Tier 3 bc's still obsolete more ships than any other ship class in the game.

To all of you out there wishing for a missile Naga it is not going to happen. The origional prototype of the Naga had both gun and missile hardpoints and bonus to both weapon systems. However it turned out in testing on SiSi that the missile Naga was way to easy to turn into a frigate killer of insane capability. So CCP removed the missile hardpoints and bonus giving us the Naga we have today. Just a small piece of history I think you should know so you know why it is the way it is.

And weapon systems. They obsolete:

Nano pest
Arty Pest
Arty Mach (to some extent)
Arty Cane
Sniper Hacs
Medium Rails
Medium Arty
Medium Beams
All other BC's in a shield BC gang
Eagle
Ferox
Active Tanking

Deletion from the game is the only way of balancing these things, they've just screwed everything.

Ya know, when I saw the mass, it doesn't make sense.

Each race have perks that they have advantage over other races.

Following perks are:

minmatar ships have the best speed, lowest mass, best locking speed, worst sensor str and lock range of all races, balances of slots, best Power Grid amount

Caldari? Best shield hp, best cpu output, best sensor str and locking range, but biggest mass, most mid slots

Amarr? Best amor hp, best capacitor, but slowest speed (right? don't recall), most low slots

Then gallente, best structure HP, best drone bay size, and supposely well balanced in most aspects? slot wise, similar than minmatar, but more low slot and less mid slots than usual.

When I say best, they have better numbers on specific areas than other races.

So tornado not having the least mass? Its pretty much not consistent. Doesn't make sense that naga have the least mass either.

Do note, there are other perks I missed out, but its been years I seen those perks on the net, and its not there when I try to find it.

Wait, so you are honestly saying a Cruise/ Torp Naga was a frigate killer? What drugs are you on? Seriously....

Frigs laugh at both weapon systems. You cant even 1 shot a frig with them or even 2 shot. Ironically as you say this, the other 3 races can 1 shot frigs with no issue.

Dont feed bullcrap to the folks, the issue was missiles apply damage rather crappy and you can not snipe with them and up close shooting means dead ABC..

decent changes but i think you can go further here.
-remove a turret
-buff tank to be better than combat cruisers as it seems odd a moa can outank a naga at least in HP anyway.

And nerf the alpha on arties for christ sake they are OP in this regard i think missiles should really do the alpha damage not guns.

I'm pretty sure the intent of these ships was high dps and low tank, so buffing the tank would basically turn this ship into a small battle ship. I must disagree with this guy.

Looks ok, but I don't think the Talos needs the drones.

The problem is the 'OP'ed' bit.
ABC's kick out more firepower & fit the biggest guns easier than a Battleship does.
That isn't right.
ABC's having large guns is fine, it means a BC fleet can bring sudden firepower to the field.
But ABC's shouldn't totally outclass battleships, and that's where the imbalance is in their firepower.

If they have weaker firepower than the BS's, but still more range than the other BC's, that lets them act as additional firepower to a faster moving BC group, without causing BS's to be obsolete.