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LUKEC	Posted - 2005.09.19 20:42:00 - [151] Mega blows... Everything written here can be done perfectly ok with fcking domi. At least in theory. In practice we know how it goes :) Usually b4 the person attacked starts firing he is in 1/2 armor :)
duduk	Posted - 2005.09.19 23:12:00 - [152] Originally by: LUKEC Mega blows... Everything written here can be done perfectly ok with fcking domi. At least in theory. In practice we know how it goes :) Usually b4 the person attacked starts firing he is in 1/2 armor :) The Mega doesn't blow ..actually come to think of it Gallente have a top ship in every ship category/class.
Paradox Eve	Posted - 2005.09.19 23:41:00 - [153] I setup a megathron a few days ago and asked people in my alliance to have battles with me (ending the fight once we hit structure. I have fought 3 ravens, each setup in slightly different ways with different skills of the pilots, and I have yet to loose. If you can't beat a raven with a mega, you either dont know what you're doing or your not very creative in your setup. [I would give you the setup- it is a great all-round setup for 1v1 pvp in general, not just against ravens- but I dont want my enemies whating what I have. Maybe in a couple of weeks or when I get bored with it Ill say it...]
Lord Timelord	Posted - 2005.09.20 04:05:00 - [154] Decent Long Range Mega Setup: 7x 425mm Prototype Gauss Railguns 1x Cloak II (or) NOS 1x AB II 1x Sensor Booster II 1x Tracking Computer II 1x Sensor Dampener II (or) Target Painter 1x Large Armor Repairer II 4x Active Hardners 1x RCU II 1x Cap Relay Decent Close Range Mega Setup: 7x Modal Mega Neutrons 1x Named NOS 1x MWD II 1x Tracking Computer II 1x Cap Injector 1x Cap Recharger II 1x LAR II 1x MAR II 3x Hardners 1x Reactor Control Unit II 1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II You may have to meddle with an slot or two to fit your current powergrid/cpu because of your skills... but these are somewhat proper mega setups. And yes, a Raven can get my armor either all the way down, and sometimes even into structure. But then they run out of cap, and they are dead. It's cheaper to repair a battleship vs. buying/fitting a new one. __________ Visit GETCo's website at http://www.megathron.com
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.09.20 04:09:00 - [155] Originally by: Lord Timelord Decent Long Range Mega Setup: 7x 425mm Prototype Gauss Railguns 1x Cloak II (or) NOS 1x AB II 1x Sensor Booster II 1x Tracking Computer II 1x Sensor Dampener II (or) Target Painter 1x Large Armor Repairer II 4x Active Hardners 1x RCU II 1x Cap Relay Decent Close Range Mega Setup: 7x Modal Mega Neutrons 1x Named NOS 1x MWD II 1x Tracking Computer II 1x Cap Injector 1x Cap Recharger II 1x LAR II 1x MAR II 3x Hardners 1x Reactor Control Unit II 1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II You may have to meddle with an slot or two to fit your current powergrid/cpu because of your skills... but these are somewhat proper mega setups. And yes, a Raven can get my armor either all the way down, and sometimes even into structure. But then they run out of cap, and they are dead. It's cheaper to repair a battleship vs. buying/fitting a new one. That long range setup is crap and there is no way you can fit that close range setup.
Lord Timelord	Posted - 2005.09.20 05:00:00 - [156] That long range setup is crap and there is no way you can fit that close range setup. Well like I said, it was "Decent". Not above average or uber. On the second point you are correct. I should have proof read it b4 posting. Swap the MWD for a AB , and the Cap Injector for a Cap Recharger II, and it'll all fit. Again, not a uber setup, but will be a good baseline to start from to try different modules out on. It's mostly a either/or setup for those mid/low slots. As has been said on other threads, your best bet is to properly fit what you want in the low and mid slots, then fit the best weapons you can with your remaining powergrid/cpu in your hi slots. __________ Visit GETCo's website at http://www.megathron.com
Sadist	Posted - 2005.09.20 05:15:00 - [157] Edited by: Sadist on 20/09/2005 05:17:08 Originally by: duduk The Mega doesn't blow ..actually come to think of it Gallente have a top ship in every ship category/class. Retarded comments by alts ftw? How about having a ****ty bonus, having only 4 mids, being able to do only kin/thermal sound to you? Not so appealing, huh? Mega IS the worst tier 2 BS out there, period. Currently there's no way to defend against missiles at _close_ range. In fact the only thing a mega can do to _defend_ against them is tank, which it doesn't do that great either. Please, also name a top gallente ship in tech 1 frig category... --------------- VIP member of the [23]
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.09.20 05:20:00 - [158] Originally by: Sadist Originally by: duduk The Mega doesn't blow ..actually come to think of it Gallente have a top ship in every ship category/class. Retarded comments by alts ftw? How about having a **ty bonus, having only 4 mids, being able to do only kin/thermal sound to you? Not so appealing, huh? Mega IS the worst tier 2 BS out there, period. Um I guess its just an opinion but I'd say the mega is the BEST tier 2 BS out there. And what **ty bonus? Damage and tracking are both good... Obviously tracking isnt as good as another damage bonus, but that would make the mega incredibly overpowered, as its already the highest damaging BS. So what bonus would you suggest replaces it?
FalloutBoy	Posted - 2005.09.20 05:28:00 - [159] Originally by: Sadist Edited by: Sadist on 20/09/2005 05:17:08 Originally by: duduk The Mega doesn't blow ..actually come to think of it Gallente have a top ship in every ship category/class. Retarded comments by alts ftw? How about having a ****ty bonus, having only 4 mids, being able to do only kin/thermal sound to you? Not so appealing, huh? Mega IS the worst tier 2 BS out there, period. Currently there's no way to defend against missiles at _close_ range. In fact the only thing a mega can do to _defend_ against them is tank, which it doesn't do that great either. Please, also name a top gallente ship in tech 1 frig category... i'm going to try to stop from laughing here. the mega is the most versatile BS in the game. its one of the best snipers. can be setup as a great midrange ganker, as well as the best upclose ganker. and on your question of the great gal tech 1 frig. look no further than the incursus, while the rifter may be a bit better in some areas the cursus is just a fun ship to fly and in my opinion is tied with the rifter for the best tech 1 frig. need a sig? Gallery Contact me for more informat
duduk	Posted - 2005.09.20 06:15:00 - [160] Originally by: Sadist Edited by: Sadist on 20/09/2005 05:17:08 Originally by: duduk The Mega doesn't blow ..actually come to think of it Gallente have a top ship in every ship category/class. Retarded comments by alts ftw? How about having a ****ty bonus, having only 4 mids, being able to do only kin/thermal sound to you? Not so appealing, huh? Mega IS the worst tier 2 BS out there, period. Currently there's no way to defend against missiles at _close_ range. In fact the only thing a mega can do to _defend_ against them is tank, which it doesn't do that great either. Please, also name a top gallente ship in tech 1 frig category... Retarded comments by players too retarded to not use an alt to post retarded comments ftw! I certainly have my reasons for using an alt to post with. They certainly aren't because I don't understand the game or have the brain the size of a peanut. Thank you Drunken and Fallout for the backup. I agree with Drunken that the Mega is at the top for tier2 battleships. Gallente have the: Mega - great sniper/top damage dealer/nice tank Domi - top solo battleship Thorax - top cruiser ingame since I can remember. Ishkur/Enyo - both top assualt frigates Moros - damn how many have we seen ingame already. probably the most versitile dread ingame. Obelisk - 2nd largest capacity Deimos - top damage dealer Ishtar - top solo HAC Iteron Mark V - best industrial. of course some would disagree with the above list, but if I am off it isn't by far. now please take the time and create a list for the Caldari and I'm not talking about the past. I want to see the facts as you see them today.
Lord Timelord	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:17:00 - [161] /me agress with duduk. __________ Visit GETCo's website at http://www.megathron.com
Stormfront	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:27:00 - [162] Quote: Mega - great sniper/top damage dealer/nice tank Domi - top solo battleship Raven = Great Tank, great volley dmg, great slot layout Scorp = Top solo BS, Awesome shield tank capability. :)
Loka	Posted - 2005.09.20 07:39:00 - [163] Originally by: Stormfront Raven = Great Tank, great volley dmg, great slot layout Scorp = Top solo BS, Awesome shield tank capability. :) The Scorp is awsome tbh. 1 Scorp + any other BS, can kill any 3 BS group, without EW. Scorpion is the perfect ship to complete a mixed fleet. Thats why Scorpions are primary each fight and not because of their ueber DMG nor their ueber shieldtank ;). _________________________ Dead or Alive
FlameHell	Posted - 2005.09.20 11:13:00 - [164] Originally by: duduk the Mega is at the top for tier2 battleships. [...] Domi - top solo battleship LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAhauahuAHauhaAhAHUAhaAHuahAhauAHAHAhaAhua asdasdafsdahuadsfhushfsalfjksalajfkssaas where you seriuos?? ...rotfl
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.09.20 11:16:00 - [165] Originally by: Lord Timelord Decent Long Range Mega Setup: 7x 425mm Prototype Gauss Railguns 1x Cloak II (or) NOS 1x AB II 1x Sensor Booster II 1x Tracking Computer II 1x Sensor Dampener II (or) Target Painter 1x Large Armor Repairer II 4x Active Hardners 1x RCU II 1x Cap Relay Decent Close Range Mega Setup: 7x Modal Mega Neutrons 1x Named NOS 1x MWD II 1x Tracking Computer II 1x Cap Injector 1x Cap Recharger II 1x LAR II 1x MAR II 3x Hardners 1x Reactor Control Unit II 1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II You may have to meddle with an slot or two to fit your current powergrid/cpu because of your skills... but these are somewhat proper mega setups. And yes, a Raven can get my armor either all the way down, and sometimes even into structure. But then they run out of cap, and they are dead. It's cheaper to repair a battleship vs. buying/fitting a new one. Basicly any decent short range setup starts with web & scrambler.
lythos miralbar	Posted - 2005.09.20 12:42:00 - [166] Edited by: lythos miralbar on 20/09/2005 12:48:04 Actualy this thread has been pretty usefull!! I very rarely pvp in a BS unless I'm facing superior numbers, then I roll out my mega with the following fitting and snipe from 150 to 190km.. high = 7x 425mm prototype gauss mids = 2x Sensor booster II's, 2x Tracking comp II's Lows = 2x tracking enhancer II's, 5 Mag stabs That works pretty well, and you can swap to antimatter and melt syuff at 50km pretty effectively, but its boring.. I want to get in close and personal!! Nice named ion basters, a mwd, cap injector and some kind of tank seem pretty much essential to me though before I try using a blaster setup.. however.. 1) Nice named ion's are INCREDIBLY rare from what Ive seen. Also pretty expensive and personally I'd think twice about pvp'ing in a mega with 7x nice ions. Ive looked bloody everywhere. So that means electrons (crap dammage) or Neutrons (Im sure I had some grid round here somewhere). 2) MWD crucifies your cap.. a nice change to the mega would be to give it a bonus to MWD cap use/cap penalty. But that would mean youd have to remove one of the other bonus's, and the ironic part is it really could do with 3 bonus's from what Ive seen so far to make it usefull. Ive been thinking about this though.. High = 7x 350mm prototype gauss, 1x assault launcher Mids = Named 100nm AB, X5 or better web, Tech II target painter, Tech II tracking disrupter Lows= Large accomodation repairer, 3 hardners, 3 dammage mods (2 dammage mods+cap relay) What do you think? could that be effective at say 30 to 40km? EDIT:- one more thing.. in a close range blaster mega (or any close range ship be it frig/cruiser/hac/bc )you have to absolutely commit. assuming both sides bought scramblers and the wcs stayed at home, once you commit someone IS going to die, period. However in a beam/artie/rail setup most fights happen outside 20km if possible (not gate gank). So this means that you can always warp off if things get to hot. This is I believe why we see less close range ships in eve. Its the 'commit' factor.. ESPECIALY if there may be other hostiles around to come sid your target once you engage.
Sally	Posted - 2005.09.20 12:50:00 - [167] Originally by: Arbenowskee Where do u people live? Raven does huge amount of DMG? LOL? Caldari are the only race without a 1000 DPS ship. Raven is kinda jack of all trades, but Minmatar also dont have ship with 1000 DPS. And what? -- Stories: #1 --
jonus Rath	Posted - 2005.09.20 15:05:00 - [168] I like the mega, I also like the Dom. I think there bothgood ship but you just need to know how to set them up. I wont say that i have a great setup but i bet i could take on alot of stuff if i really had to. I hereby decree that all 0.0 space corps are full of asshats.
Garreck	Posted - 2005.09.20 15:09:00 - [169] Originally by: lythos miralbar High = 7x 350mm prototype gauss, 1x assault launcher Mids = Named 100nm AB, X5 or better web, Tech II target painter, Tech II tracking disrupter Lows= Large accomodation repairer, 3 hardners, 3 dammage mods (2 dammage mods+cap relay) What do you think? could that be effective at say 30 to 40km? Switch out one of your mids for a tracking computer II and you'll have an optimal (with antimatter) of around 30km. Not sure you'd be able to fit this exact setup, but you're on to something here. Garreck Aeternus Crusade Aku. Soku. Zan.
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.09.20 15:46:00 - [170] Originally by: Lord Timelord Decent Long Range Mega Setup: 7x 425mm Prototype Gauss Railguns 1x Cloak II (or) NOS 1x AB II 1x Sensor Booster II 1x Tracking Computer II 1x Sensor Dampener II (or) Target Painter 1x Large Armor Repairer II 4x Active Hardners 1x RCU II 1x Cap Relay whiskey tango foxtrot? -- taking over the world, one sig at a time
Leto Nyx	Posted - 2005.09.20 16:18:00 - [171] Originally by: Ginger Magician I am the best and few would privately dispute it Victim :Leto Nyx Corporation :Federal Navy Academy Ship type :Catalyst System :Eifer (0.4) Killer :Ginger Magician Corporation :OctoberSnow Corp Ship type :Apocalypse Weapon :Tachyon Beam Laser II Dunno about the Raven v Megathron stuff, but I know who wins a Catalyst v Apoc fight. :-) I have to say though, I'm not exactly overawed and rendered speechless by the greatness of somebody who gate camps 0.4 empire space picking off n00bs, although I admit my exploding corpse was quite spectacular and impressive ;-) And before you ask, no I don't fancy a rematch thank you
Cirdan Vardamir	Posted - 2005.09.20 17:46:00 - [172] Edited by: Cirdan Vardamir on 20/09/2005 17:51:13 The Megathron should win everytime against a raven using torpedos if he is expecting to be facing a raven. One word that strikes fear into the heart of any Siege launcher fitted raven pilot: smartbomb. I've taken out ravens with shield tank + bcus in lows with all arbalest sieges at 12-15km in an autocannon fitted tempest with 1 heavy nos, 1 smartbomb. The Duration on the SB is shorter than the ravens RoF.
Dreez	Posted - 2005.09.20 18:22:00 - [173] Quote: No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters Concidering CCP themselves wrote this in the description for all blasters. A Megathron equipped with these guns should be able to ****any ship once its close enough to use their "Sheer destructive power" even Autotampests or torpravens - Keep in mind that not only are these guns suppose to be hard hitting, they are on a ship that makes them hit even harder and also track better. k, let not rabble anymore. I might have ATUK in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA*
duduk	Posted - 2005.09.20 20:57:00 - [174] Originally by: Dreez Quote: No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters Concidering CCP themselves wrote this in the description for all blasters. A Megathron equipped with these guns should be able to *****any ship once its close enough to use their "Sheer destructive power" even Autotampests or torpravens - Keep in mind that not only are these guns suppose to be hard hitting, they are on a ship that makes them hit even harder and also track better. k, let not rabble anymore. bah, I give up... ...nerf drones !! :) jk
Wrayeth	Posted - 2005.09.20 21:00:00 - [175] Edited by: Wrayeth on 20/09/2005 21:00:00 Originally by: Dreez Quote: No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters Note that the raven is NOT a "turret class" ship. Thank you, and have a nice day. -Wrayeth
duduk	Posted - 2005.09.20 21:10:00 - [176] Originally by: Cirdan Vardamir Edited by: Cirdan Vardamir on 20/09/2005 17:51:13 The Megathron should win everytime against a raven using torpedos if he is expecting to be facing a raven. One word that strikes fear into the heart of any Siege launcher fitted raven pilot: smartbomb. I've taken out ravens with shield tank + bcus in lows with all arbalest sieges at 12-15km in an autocannon fitted tempest with 1 heavy nos, 1 smartbomb. The Duration on the SB is shorter than the ravens RoF. aye, but that would take out the megas drones. ...maybe the amount of defenders used to take out torps should be reduced. that would mean that if a torpaven tries to do long range combat (or hit a blasterboat on approach) his damage would be reduced. As the range shrinks the effectivenss of the defenders reduces to zero. I have defenders at lvl5 and they do seem to work half decent on cruise missiles at range. I would say reduce the amount of defenders needed to take out a torp to 2 and see ( they are pretty damn slow )
Sadist	Posted - 2005.09.20 21:16:00 - [177] Quote: Mega - great sniper/top damage dealer/nice tank Domi - top solo battleship Thorax - top cruiser ingame since I can remember. Ishkur/Enyo - both top assualt frigates Moros - damn how many have we seen ingame already. probably the most versitile dread ingame. Obelisk - 2nd largest capacity Deimos - top damage dealer Ishtar - top solo HAC Iteron Mark V - best industrial. Mega - worst tank of all tier 2 bs, except tempest, damage is is also 3rd worst, due to the most tanked dmg types. Tempest is as good of a sniper. Thorax - not much better than any 1600mm platecruiser, esp. maller Ishkur, Enyo - Ishkur is mediocre at best, Enyo is equal with harpy. Domi - worst BS to fit, horrible DPS without top skills. HAC's - no argument here. The rest are uncommon ships. Umm, the _best_ ship? Hardly. Some situations take the best pilot on a mega to even keep up with the worse fitted tier 2 BS. --------------- VIP member of the [23]
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.09.20 22:24:00 - [178] has anyone noticed how gallente say "kin/thermal is most tanked" and amarr always say "em/thermal is most tanked"? -- taking over the world, one sig at a time
Kalyster	Posted - 2005.09.20 22:43:00 - [179] Originally by: Ginger Magician certainly i still have no problem killing minmatar and ammar ships in my mega A Mega can beat any Amarr and Minmatar ship !? Nerf the Mega ! Seriously, I understand you may be worried about your supposed close range supremacy, but you should accept that in this precise situation of a 1on1 BS fight, the raven may win against your megathron. Because if it doesn't win there, where will it ? And anyway, any miner will tell you that a mega owns a raven
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.09.20 23:21:00 - [180] Originally by: HippoKing has anyone noticed how gallente say "kin/thermal is most tanked" and amarr always say "em/thermal is most tanked"? Kin/thermal is definatly worse than em/thermal. Thermal is the worst damage type in the game and kinetic is second worse. Exp>EM>kinetic>Therma

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