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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:04:00 -
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IceGuerilla wrote:Thank you, Jita protests. I'm glad that firing torpedoes at a statue got some real people with real livelihoods fired...
Or maybe it meant that 500 eve developers kept their livelihoods because it reminded the company about its priorities and how this game came to be a success.
Having been an employee, and employer, a contractor, freelancer and general economic ronin in the wonderful world of IT I know how painful these things can be - but hardworking and talented people will get other jobs and perhaps as a result of this the dream of Eve Online will live on and begin to flourish again.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
549
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:04:00 -
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The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
549
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:05:00 -
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The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Officer Spawn
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:05:00 -
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IceGuerilla wrote:Thank you, Jita protests. I'm glad that firing torpedoes at a statue got some real people with real livelihoods fired...
The outcry in all its forms saved the other 80% from a similar fate. CCP turned the ship around in time it seems, plenty of other companies have stubbornly kept throwing money into a doomed product and persished with it rather then admit failure. |
RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
125
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:06:00 -
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eve is good - keep it coming , do what you need for WOD heart goes out for those in the loss :(
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
549
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:08:00 -
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holy Quadpost batman ... sorry about that
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
781
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:08:00 -
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My thoughts go out to those who are looking for other work, and hope you all find something soon, as well all CCP employees who are probably having a pretty uncertain time at the moment.
EVE was looking pretty shaky a few months ago, but with the recent refocussing on FiS, I'm confident things are getting better. I'm glad that DUST is still going forward - there's an incredible potential there for it to become something great. WoD has always been intriguing too, but I was a little concerned that CCP had bitten off a little too much with two projects in progress, but I will look forward to more information on that in the future. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
31
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:11:00 -
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Even though this sucks for the dudes who are gonna lose their jobs (been there, done that). I applaud CCP for the open way with which they deal with their community now. Thumbs up from me for the post CCP - you guys are doing it right and I hope your subscriber base doubles. |
Phil MacMannon
Fantastic Gymnastics
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:11:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote: Sorry to the employees laid off from the WOD team in the states (particularly in this economic climate) but I do believe its a neccessary step and vital to ensure CCP has the resources to concentrate on and renew Eve Online as its core game. This announcement is almost more significant than the Hilmar apology to signalling a full return to priority focus on Eve Online.
Follow it up by announcing plans to ditch the NeX store and provide all In Space AND Incarna content through traditional sandbox economics rather than MT money-grubbing and I will be fully satisfied and celebrate by resubbing for a year on my account.
This.
As long as the sandbox is fully restored i will seriously consider keeping my 10 accounts running come pay-time in january. Nothing less will do for me, and i suspect, nothing less will do for a great many others.
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Benilopax
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
9
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:12:00 -
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When I joined the Jita protests and all, I never expected it to indirectly lead to job cuts at CCP, maybe I should. As someone who has been unemployed in the past, I feel for those about to lose their jobs.
However, the refocus on EVE is a good step, and we must hope now that CCP can get players back to their primary game and save the company. |
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
321
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:13:00 -
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It seems to me that the decision has nothing to do with Eve.
Rather, WoD development has been cut because they couldn't get it to work properly. Remember - it uses the same engine as Eve's WiS feature which is a horrible resource hog even with just one player. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Jack Paladin
StarFleet Enterprises BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:14:00 -
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The needs of the many outway the needs of the few.
Jobs are lost now but the long term benefits to CCP could see many more jobs created in the future ..... if they play their cards right.
Time will tell. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:14:00 -
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I don't get it how cutting 20% of company may change "soon" attitude of CCP developers.
Example: there are tons of clothing available within the game engine right now (try to link items in chat to word "shirt") but 3 months after Incarna deployment they are still hidden. What are you waiting for? Bankruptcy? |
Anvil44
Independent Traders and Builders MPA
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:18:00 -
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Most Importantly: Good luck to all those that will be leaving CCP. This type of journey is never easy. I sincerely hope that at some point in the future you can look back and say "I wish it hadn't happened but on the flip side, I am happy with what I am doing now."
Glad to hear of the continuing refocus to make Eve work better. When it is both improving and evolving, then I am confident you will have 90-98% of your customer base happy. Maybe not with every single change, but with most of them. I still look forward to WIS someday, but only when I know that FIS is continuing to be awesome and continually being refined and developed. |
Dalton Vanadis
Miranda United F0RCEFUL ENTRY
409
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:19:00 -
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Hey CCP'ers, like many other players, I wish you all the best in your future endeavors. I think all of us hate to see the company that makes such great games as EVE lose out on something. And losing talented people is the biggest loss of all.
It's a day where Hilmar and the rest of the CCP leadership team have truly spoken with their actions and not their words. I don't think many EVE players realized the gravity of what that call would mean. I can only hope that this refocusing will allow CCP to come back fighting on WoD in a year or two without compromising EVE and Dust.
It's a happy day for the future of EVE and a sad day for many of those who care about CCP. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
202
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:19:00 -
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Smart move. Now with new priorities we'll be having more content added to the game. So much effort could've been spent on improving on EVE instead it's not even funny. Don't get me wrong, I will play WoD at launch I'm a huge VtM fan since I was a teenager but I can't play something that is not released yet.
Sadly my relief and good hopes for the future are someone's else misfortune but I would have done the same. The customer must always be top priority in a business or soon the business will find itself without any customers at all. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:20:00 -
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Welp...
As a person I feel bad for those getting cut. As an eve player I'm glad focus will be returning where it belongs
as an American I'm somewhat disappointed with the statement that workers in Atlanta will feel the biggest cuts while CCP plans on "redeploying" personnel to this location for launch.
yeah, that kind of rubs me wrong...
Am I reading correctly that American CCP employees will be the bulk of the cuts and that they will be replaced by an icelandic team in Atlanta?
I'm trying to be understanding here, but WTF?
PS WHY TEH FORUMS LAGGING SO BAD? DID YOU FIRE THE HAMPSTERS TOO???? The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:21:00 -
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/me point HAHAH! /melvin
Nerf This, Buff That, Fix it, I am quitting! And CCP has a change of heart...from dead space cold to sub artic...since Hilmar game back from the darkside of the force but walks a gray area. 20% of CCP is getting fired cause you were not happy; Subs drops, CCP makes changes, Subs increase slightly, CCP staff drops. No one ever wins, everyone ends up being loosers. WoD might of been a bad choice for CCP to expand on cause Goth/Emo/Tweeny vampire genre is more niche then sci-fi, but it still sucks to be fired and we all had a helping hand it it. |
Mallak Azaria
Three 6 MaFiA Dark Phoenix Rising.
7
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:21:00 -
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My condolences to the staff that are getting the sack.
This leads me to ask CCP an important question. Are you doing this to actually refocus, or are you just using this as an excuse to increase your profit margin? |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
2
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:21:00 -
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GL to those who lost jobs, and more importantly, thanks for working for giving us EVE. Wish you could continue.
EDITed to add: Oh, and GL to CCP too in continuing the same. :) |
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:23:00 -
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In many cases such as this, where upper management made hugely expensive strategic errors, said management is replaced. Other times, they get to continue and run a company into the ground.
Not that CCP will discuss internal stuff like this openly, but I am wondering who, if any, CCP management are being walked out the door. |
DaDutchDude
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:24:00 -
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Wow ... this is so brutally honest and direct and correct and a lot of more stuff, it really fills me with a mix of emotions.
Where other statements could have been dismissed as PR, this clearly and undeniably indicates CCP 'got it' ... at the same time, I think it also forces us, the players, to realize we actually effect people's livelihood with our subscriptions, and we shouldn't take that lightly either. After all, the RL side of Internet spaceships really is serious business.
I'm sorry to the people who will loose their job over this, and hope they land on their feet. Of all the harsh words uttered by many EVE players, I don't think any of them were actually trying to personally hurt you, and seeing you personally being effected this way is (and should be) quite sobering to many of us.
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Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:24:00 -
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I am Jacks complete lack of surprise. And it didn't have to be this way, like Hilmar finally noticed, there were plenty of warnings from all sides. I can't claim to be free of Schadenfreude for stubbornness and arrogance finally reaping the results. Too bad once more the little guy is punished by being fired for mistakes not committed by him.
Ofc the big question remaining is whether CCP will be able to reverse the negative trend in customer satisfaction and resulting declining subscriber numbers or not. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
295
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:25:00 -
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Sad news and good news in same package are always hard to comment anything on... This is great day for EvE, good day for Dust and miserable day for the employees who need to head towards new challenges.
I believe that there is always work for diligent and smart individuals, so for those who need to go - don't lose your faith. Believe in yourselves and turn the next page in your life without worrying about the past too much. Who knows what goodies new tomorrow has prepared for you. I wish you coping and luck with future plans.
These decisions are never easy, but unfortunately they are sometimes inevitable.
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Jamie Banks
Quantum Horizons
3
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:28:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:My condolences to the staff that are getting the sack.
This leads me to ask CCP an important question. Are you doing this to actually refocus, or are you just using this as an excuse to increase your profit margin?
CCP is a company with a bottom line, of course it is to increase their profit margin, it is just now they realize how important that EVE was to their bottom line and losing this many subscribers was in fact not the best financial nor moral decision they have made. |
Benilopax
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
9
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:28:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:My condolences to the staff that are getting the sack.
This leads me to ask CCP an important question. Are you doing this to actually refocus, or are you just using this as an excuse to increase your profit margin?
More likely to stop them going under, finances at CCP aren't great at the moment. |
Letrange
Red Horizon Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:31:00 -
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Morganta wrote: as an American I'm somewhat disappointed with the statement that workers in Atlanta will feel the biggest cuts while CCP plans on "redeploying" personnel to this location for launch.
yeah, that kind of rubs me wrong...
Am I reading correctly that American CCP employees will be the bulk of the cuts and that they will be replaced by an icelandic team in Atlanta?
Um, hello, all that bitching and un-subbing is the cause of the cuts - and lets face it with DUST having an EVE link an d being further along, it was inevitable that it would be the one to be less affected. The vampires were much less further along and too far in the future, so it was inevitable that they would see the most reduction. The fact that WW is in Atlanta and that most of the WoD development team was there as well means that yes they'll be seeing most of the cuts. And no they are not being replaced by icelanders moving to Atlanta (insert appropriate snide comment regarding typical american wold views here). What that meant was that some of the Atlanta crew will be re-tasked to work on EVE stuff instead of WoD stuff instead of also loosing their jobs.
Please put some of your SP into reading comprehension. |
Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
112
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:31:00 -
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Does this mean we're going to see new faces at Occupy Wall Street? |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
61
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:32:00 -
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All my best wishes to those who will lose their jobs and also to the CCP staff as a whole, who will now have to live with this terrible uncertainty.
I will not even cheer as an EVE player. EVE has always been a great game and the future will show if it will become an even better one. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
168
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:35:00 -
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Good news for us, not so good for those who are leaving. But like so many others said allready, this doesn't come as a surprise. The (very) good result of this is that EVE and DUST development will be proceding at a much faster pace as before.
And frankly it shows that CCP can make the hard decisions that where needed after the hubris filled speeches of earlier.
Humble and courageous decisions like this are making me want to resub. I hope many of the Atlanta team can be re tasked to Dust and all the art teams can acclimatise to the frigid Reykjavik climate.
Will this mean that Reynir and TomB (or is he back allready) will return to EVE? - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
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