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Raven Solaris
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
148
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:36:00 -
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2003~2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVJLAg6lWOY
Seriously though, why does it seem like the Industry hates login screens, as a non-EVE example, I recall Guild Wars 2 having a fantastic login screen during beta, only to replace it with logging in via the launcher.
I've always loved EVE's login screens and music, and part of the excitement of a new expansion for me has always been seeing the new one, which is perhaps silly, I'll admit.
To keep it positive, what's been your favourite login screen over the years? |

Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:39:00 -
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Raven Solaris wrote:2003~2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVJLAg6lWOYSeriously though, why does it seem like the Industry hates login screens, as a non-EVE example, I recall Guild Wars 2 having a fantastic login screen during beta, only to replace it with logging in via the launcher. I've always loved EVE's login screens and music, and part of the excitement of a new expansion for me has always been seeing the new one, which is perhaps silly, I'll admit. To keep it positive, what's been your favourite login screen over the years? Trinity, Apocrypha, and Empyrean Age, in that order |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8326
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:39:00 -
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At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c
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Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
91
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:49:00 -
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To be honest I agree with you.. but i'll adapt. I always do.  I love to reload during a battle!-áThere's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile into a well greased chamber... |

Warpshade
Warped Industries
54
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:51:00 -
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I will miss the new Login music with each expansion =( |

Nex Killer
Drunk3n Industry
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:52:00 -
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Chribba wrote:At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c
It's so bad for multiple clients or if you want to switch characters you have to reopen the launcher each time. The Log Off button was removed. |

xarjin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:55:00 -
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Eve's iconic login screens have always made my days logging in a very unique ominous and charismatic depth no other game has matched.
The new launcher login seems dry and uninspired by comparison. Tis' a sad day when the fully animated login screen is rendered obsolete for a "technological improvement" |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2113
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:57:00 -
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Shut up, people. Marketing knows what it's doing. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |

Warpshade
Warped Industries
54
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:57:00 -
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Nex Killer wrote:Chribba wrote:At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c It's so bad for multiple clients or if you want to switch characters you have to reopen the launcher each time. The Log Off button was removed.
Yea I noticed this too, whilst I think logging in from the launcher is a good idea, I didn't think it also warranted removal of the old log off button whilst ingame. Overall the efficiency of the old way vs the new probably isn't that much of a difference, just a matter of adapting to the new. However lets face it, this new method is probably more financial decision since the company no longer has to spend money on making new login screens or composing new login music, call me sentimental. |

Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:00:00 -
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xarjin wrote:Eve's iconic login screens have always made my days logging in a very unique ominous and charismatic depth no other game has matched.
The new launcher login seems dry and uninspiring by comparison. Tis' a sad day when the fully animated login screen is rendered obsolete for a "technological improvement"
I'm rather baffled as why they haven't tried to openly discuss for making it a sidegrade instead, let those watch the screensaver & hear the music if they wanted to, and the rest can directly log to their character screen.
Each expansion needs a theme track, Odyssey is no different.
WarpShade wrote:this new method is probably more financial decision since the company no longer has to spend money on making new login screens or composing new login music Is it that expensive to make new music, or to make a new screensaver?
Eitherway it's worth the cost. I think it's a more ''security'' related thing |
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Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
2308
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:02:00 -
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Pertuabo Enkidgan wrote:xarjin wrote:Eve's iconic login screens have always made my days logging in a very unique ominous and charismatic depth no other game has matched.
The new launcher login seems dry and uninspiring by comparison. Tis' a sad day when the fully animated login screen is rendered obsolete for a "technological improvement" I'm rather baffled as why they haven't tried to openly discuss for making it a sidegrade instead, let those watch the screensaver & hear the music if they wanted to, and the rest can directly log to their character screen. Each expansion needs a theme track, Odyssey is no different.
Clearly the character select screen is going to become the new location for awesome screen backgrounds and music.
The news is already moved to the launcher so now they can simply have the new login screen have the pictures of each charater and some minimalist details about them and a "Go" button. The Drake is a Lie |

Sarmatiko
1123
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:03:00 -
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Also R.I.P one time advertisements. I hope someday some CCP employee will upload anonymously archive with all those ad images from http://cdn1.eveonline.com/marketing/InGameAds/ folder to eve-files. 
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Riyal
Fluffles Inc.
94
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:05:00 -
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A patch themed animated character select would be a nice replacement. |

Termy Rockling
EVE University Ivy League
46
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:09:00 -
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First they tell you can train multiple chars at once, and then they kick you back to ground by disabling easy swapping between chars  |

Utremi Fasolasi
The Jagged Edge Rebel Alliance of New Eden
233
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:11:00 -
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My Mac launcher is the same as always, so I'm a little confused by this chatter. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1923
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:11:00 -
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Oh wait, you mean the launcher i saw on Sisi is live? With no login screen, no log off button and such?
I seriously thought it was broken (all in all, it *broke* my Sisi install), now it has broken my TQ client and is supposed to be like this, without login screen nor log off button?
Who authorized this? And WHY?  The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
683
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:14:00 -
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just found for myself that you can switch chars (inside one account) faster than before: - switch to launcher, press "Launch"
current client will close and you have new select char screen. No need to relogin and all this stuff.
looks like good improvement for me |

Darkness Assasin
Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra
14
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:16:00 -
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What are you all talking about ? The login screen is still here.Go and launch EVE from here: C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\bin\exefile.exe
If you have multiple folders for multiple accounts do the same for each one. I am not sure what's going to happen if there is patch available.You might have to use the launcher to update.
Did that work for you ?  Darkness Assasin (DA) BOA Innovations Director and Recruiter |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1923
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:20:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:just found for myself that you can switch chars (inside one account) faster than before: - switch to launcher, press "Launch"
current client will close and you have new select char screen. No need to relogin and all this stuff.
looks like good improvement for me
Swithcing to deskotp breaks my keyboard layout and i had the launcher configured to close after laucnhing as otherwise it woulnd't close even after exiting EVE.
And why did they remove the login screen without a warning? Who do they think they are these noob developers, messing with our game like that? The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Darkness Assasin
Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra
14
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:22:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:March rabbit wrote:just found for myself that you can switch chars (inside one account) faster than before: - switch to launcher, press "Launch"
current client will close and you have new select char screen. No need to relogin and all this stuff.
looks like good improvement for me Swithcing to deskotp breaks my keyboard layout and i had the launcher configured to close after laucnhing as otherwise it woulnd't close even after exiting EVE. And why did they remove the login screen without a warning? Who do they think they are these noob developers, messing with our game like that?
Using the method above allows you to log off too.Like the old days! Darkness Assasin (DA) BOA Innovations Director and Recruiter |
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
1923
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:26:00 -
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Darkness Assasin wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:March rabbit wrote:just found for myself that you can switch chars (inside one account) faster than before: - switch to launcher, press "Launch"
current client will close and you have new select char screen. No need to relogin and all this stuff.
looks like good improvement for me Swithcing to deskotp breaks my keyboard layout and i had the launcher configured to close after laucnhing as otherwise it woulnd't close even after exiting EVE. And why did they remove the login screen without a warning? Who do they think they are these noob developers, messing with our game like that? Using the method i posted above,you can log off too.Like the old days!
Will try when I can update to build 538542. Certainly gonna skip the launcher if it is what I saw on Sisi. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Sentamon
948
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:28:00 -
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Chribba wrote: but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
/c
Lets hope not. That would be terrible. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:33:00 -
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Darkness Assasin wrote:What are you all talking about ? The login screen is still here.Go and launch EVE from here: C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\bin\exefile.exeIf you have multiple folders for multiple accounts do the same for each one. I am not sure what's going to happen if there is patch available.You might have to use the launcher to update. Log off works too! Did that work for you ?  Ok, now show me the part in which they're making a new theme for Odyssey.
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Nex Killer
Drunk3n Industry
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:33:00 -
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Warpshade wrote:Nex Killer wrote:Chribba wrote:At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c It's so bad for multiple clients or if you want to switch characters you have to reopen the launcher each time. The Log Off button was removed. Yea I noticed this too, whilst I think logging in from the launcher is a good idea, I didn't think it also warranted removal of the old log off button whilst ingame. Overall the efficiency of the old way vs the new probably isn't that much of a difference, just a matter of adapting to the new. However lets face it, this new method is probably more financial decision since the company no longer has to spend money on making new login screens or composing new login music, call me sentimental.
The main reason I liked the old log off button was it would restart the client automatically and all I had to do was retype the password. Now I multibox 4 clients with ISBoxer and have to change our my PI about every 2 days. The old log off had it so much easier when I changed characters. Now if they add in a switch character button I wouldn't be so eeeeh about this new launcher.
Darkness Assasin wrote:What are you all talking about ? The login screen is still here.Go and launch EVE from here: C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\bin\exefile.exeIf you have multiple folders for multiple accounts do the same for each one. I am not sure what's going to happen if there is patch available.You might have to use the launcher to update. Log off works too! Did that work for you ? 
They already said their removing the client login screen soon. But for right now it's going to stay. |

Joxxy
Vrane Club
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:33:00 -
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I will miss the old launcher come new expansion.
Something tells me they will kill alternative ways of logging to EVE some summer expansion.
The new launcher is a useless resource hog for us with slower comps that brings NOTHING to the game.
I will miss you old launcher. New one sucks. |

Anyura
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:05:00 -
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Warpshade wrote:I will miss the new Login music with each expansion =(
p.s Apocrypha was my favourite login music theme.
WHAT?! No new login themes?
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Shanerous Lorenthien
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:07:00 -
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Ahh the memories....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpSgjxeDW_w&list=PL1B659E51C18EAE60 |

Caroline Grace
Almost Approved
295
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:09:00 -
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I'm greatly disturbed by removal of login screens.
I do not approve this.
And I bet there will be a huge outcry, 100 times bigger than for bringing back Jukebox. Oh my. |

Anyura
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:27:00 -
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We've finally found out how the perpetual motion machine works. It's the old launcher doing 7200rpm in its grave.  |

Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
759
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:48:00 -
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I suppose this new launcher will be better from a technology standpoint in the long term and I understand the reasons for it but, damn, I too will miss the login screen and new theme music with each expansion.
My favorite was Revelations II because that's when I started playing. Hearing the old music brought back pleasant memories from the days when I was a newbie and the Eve universe was huge and full of wonder. I really miss those days now that I've morphed into a jaded vet. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
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Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
368
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:02:00 -
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Nex Killer wrote:Chribba wrote:At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c It's so bad for multiple clients or if you want to switch characters you have to reopen the launcher each time. The Log Off button was removed.
You can just map Ctrl-Q to logoff LOL.
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Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
12
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:09:00 -
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Having multiple accounts with the new screen is horrible, guess they want to discourage that  |

GreenSeed
305
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:44:00 -
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i don't mind the new launcher, what i do mind is having accounts separated... can we please have a merge?
a good model is... *shrugs* blizzard's battle.net
you have only one log in, and then you can select which account to log in into. all with one password. ofc this requires authentication.
also, can we please have a proper character log in screen? been 10 years already... |

Valari Nala Zena
Perkone Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:52:00 -
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I'd forgive CCP, if only i could switch characters without logging completely the **** out (hint) |

Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
290
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:00:00 -
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CCP's been boozing too much. |

xarjin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:45:00 -
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Shanerous Lorenthien wrote:
Several months later the Retribution login screen and music is still as magnificent as the first day i saw it. Gives me chills every single time i turn up the bass  |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
196
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:45:00 -
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Well...we are talking about the company that removed ship spinning...
They redo gate jump effects and undocking animations to get rid of blank loading screens...then they add one to the launching process. CCP at it's finest. |

Vega Makutu
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:54:00 -
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I haven't yet tried the new login procedure.
Whatever the case may be, is it still possible to be logged in on multiple accounts at the same time, or are we limited to only one account? |

xarjin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.05.22 01:59:00 -
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Vega Makutu wrote:I haven't yet tried the new login procedure.
Whatever the case may be, is it still possible to be logged in on multiple accounts at the same time, or are we limited to only one account?
You certainly can login multiple accounts with the new launcher login however the process is both clumsy and theres no glorious beautiful login screen to greet you.
When you currently sign in from the launcher your forced to skip past the animated login screen directly to character selection. The launcher has an option to change accounts you login with that doesn't shutdown running clients but it's still rather clumsy. |

xarjin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:04:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Well...we are talking about the company that removed ship spinning...
They redo gate jump effects and undocking animations to get rid of blank loading screens...then they add one to the launching process. CCP at it's finest.
The new gate jump effect is awesome the first dozen times but it gets really tedious and annoying after a few hours. After spending a few hours on the test server and going back to Retribution on Tranquility I find myself enjoying the current jump effect more then the one everyone was cheering for at fanfest.
The new pod death transition effect on sisi is however pretty awesome. |
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KevinFlynnn
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:49:00 -
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This is ******* stupid. The EVE login screen was one of a kind.....  |

Ayuren Aakiwa
Perkone Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2013.05.22 02:56:00 -
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I am truly saddened by this, I've always enjoyed the unique graphics and, even more so, music on the log in screens. Why cant we lose the launcher and go back to just a login screen?? pew pew 24/7 |

Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative.
600
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:00:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Shut up, people. Marketing knows what it's doing. Yes, marketing totally knows what it is doing, Incarna/cash-shop totally proved that.
Honestly, the gaming industry would be mroe creative, unique, adn toherwise better off, if every company fired their marketing division, or at least put them in a dark room where they had no say or influence on the development team, and instead were just responible for MARKETING instead of DEVELOPMENTAL DECISIONS.
Honestly, with so many MMO's moving to a log-in laucnher, EVE's login screen left it unique, it created a suspense as you logged in, got you excited. hearing that music start up, the Current Build's BG come onscreen, it made you want to login, got you in the mood, it was a TRANSITION.
without the login screen, whenever i start up EVE, i have to keep hecking to remember whether im actually in EVE, or just have a Microsoft Excel window open. |

Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative.
600
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:04:00 -
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So, shoudl we start shooting the monument again now? I eman geeze, they took away ship spinning and gave it back after they found out tat players were not-so-enthusiastic with it's departure, hopefully the same happens to the login screen. |

Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
46
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Posted - 2013.05.22 05:59:00 -
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As a new player who only started a few months back, it was the retribution login screen that really got me excited on my first login. Lord knows it wasn't the career agent tutorials that sold me on the game early on... |

Clansworth
Good Rock Materials
11
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:20:00 -
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Chribba wrote:At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c
Try this for smooth multiple client loads:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238533 |

Lexmana
952
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:38:00 -
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First time I am happy I am on a Mac after an expansion. Still have old launcher and log in screen :). |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7943
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:43:00 -
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CCP sees fantastic login numbers and decides "you know what? let's make logging in more cumbersome" mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Dultas
Angels Of Death EVE Permanent Mental Syndrome
4
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:44:00 -
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I guess this was the easiest way to get around the, You'll only see this add once on the old login. Now they can get rid of that pesky feature without saying they're getting rid of it and spam you with adds every time you want to login or even switch characters. A major win for marketing, I doubt it will be log before you see ads for non eve related stuff in the launcher at this rate. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1930
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:45:00 -
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I wonder, did someone check with the CSM? Just to, well, know how do players feel about puting a black login screen instead of the awesome animated login screen that's been a part of EVE for 11 years (since beta)? The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
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Dultas
Angels Of Death EVE Permanent Mental Syndrome
4
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:47:00 -
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Clansworth wrote:Chribba wrote:At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c Try this for smooth multiple client loads: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238533
Launching multiple accounts isn't as much a pain as it is switching between characters on those accounts. I use all of my characters on all of my accounts fairly often. So having to completely close EVE ever time I want to switch between characters is just annoying and cumbersome. At the very least they need to add a way to switch between characters on an account without having to completely close the game to do so. |

Musashi Date
25TH miss
40
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:50:00 -
[52] - Quote
The old login system sets up a socket connection that has a timeout, this new system has no timeout.
For easier multiple logins:
Launcher settings (Gear icon, upper right) > Startup Tab > Close the eve launcher after starting eve online << disable this |

Seetesh
RTS - POS Deployments
36
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:54:00 -
[53] - Quote
Again CCP doesn't listen to the feedback given by the playerbase and just goes ahead and gives us this crap. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
48
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:55:00 -
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Raven Solaris wrote:2003~2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVJLAg6lWOYSeriously though, why does it seem like the Industry hates login screens, as a non-EVE example, I recall Guild Wars 2 having a fantastic login screen during beta, only to replace it with logging in via the launcher. I've always loved EVE's login screens and music, and part of the excitement of a new expansion for me has always been seeing the new one, which is perhaps silly, I'll admit. To keep it positive, what's been your favourite login screen over the years?
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Gwenywell Shumuku
29
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Posted - 2013.05.22 07:01:00 -
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CCP...oh no you didn't....
really? you pull a "lets remove ship spinning" again on us? Have you learned nothing? Yes, small things ppl are used to MATTER for the experience.
P.S. for pushing multiple account use you make it really a mess switching....common, who didn't pay attention when making the desicion here?! |

Viktor Mulder
Rise of Tangra GaNg BaNg TeAm
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 07:43:00 -
[56] - Quote
So 2 days after removing the login screen, we dont have any official answer ? How can you remove the login screen, we try to forgive the removal of the jukebox, but this is just too much s**t |

Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.22 07:49:00 -
[57] - Quote
Want my old login screen bak  Remember 1st time i ran Apocrypha login screen. CHILLLLLLZ. |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Nyratic
303
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Posted - 2013.05.22 07:54:00 -
[58] - Quote
I hate the login screen patcher things we have now (not just Eve's, all games in general). I just want to be able to download the patches manually. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec. |

Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships.
51646
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:03:00 -
[59] - Quote
Out of Game launchers are horrible, Always have been.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3399
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:05:00 -
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My favourite login music is probably Apocrypha, my favourite login screen was that one with the V3 sacrilege shooting its lasers in time with the music.
Hopefully CCP can figure out how to do WebGL login screens with sound for the launcher. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
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Viktor Mulder
Rise of Tangra GaNg BaNg TeAm
1
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:10:00 -
[61] - Quote
There are other problems too, when u got disconnect and it shows the two buttons - restart and quit, the restart button just closed the game and not restarting it ... WTF is this s**t ... |

Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
197
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:11:00 -
[62] - Quote
I don't mind the change BUT I don't see why we needed to remove the login screen itself.
When you log in on the launcher it should take you to the original animated login screen with a simple "play" button or "press any key to continue" message. That way we can either enjoy the screen or skip it. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
2860
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:11:00 -
[63] - Quote
https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames
go there after Odyssey hits TQ. if they don't upload the Odyssey theme, gather a thousand players and start shooting the statue at Jita 4-4 while spamming the forums with rage. |

Luciana Mjolnir
Otbor Chereshka GaNg BaNg TeAm
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:31:00 -
[64] - Quote
CCP are JOKE!
10 year! One product! Deployment procedure? Quality Control?
Well good luck with your other products. Hope you won't repeat same mistakes again.
I know how to fix my settings and stuff and continue playing, thank you. Will I play other CCP games? No! One horrible product is enough.
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Arox Dax
Boris Johnson's Love Children
44
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:36:00 -
[65] - Quote
Not really one for complaining too much, but gotta admit, I do miss the animated log in screen, while it doesn't affect my gameplay, it does seem to make the experience of logging in a tad ermmmm "sterile" yeah think that's the adjective I'll go with. |

baltec1
Bat Country
6561
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:37:00 -
[66] - Quote
Luciana Mjolnir wrote:CCP are JOKE!
10 year! One product! Deployment procedure? Quality Control?
Well good luck with your other products. Hope you won't repeat same mistakes again.
I know how to fix my settings and stuff and continue playing, thank you. Will I play other CCP games? No! One horrible product is enough.
I love drama queens and CCP have a talent for drawing them out. |

Luciana Mjolnir
Otbor Chereshka GaNg BaNg TeAm
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:41:00 -
[67] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Luciana Mjolnir wrote:CCP are JOKE!
10 year! One product! Deployment procedure? Quality Control? ......
I love drama queens and CCP have a talent for drawing them out.
Where is the drama in that ? I too like forum trolls :D
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baltec1
Bat Country
6561
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:53:00 -
[68] - Quote
Luciana Mjolnir wrote:
Where is the drama in that ? I too like forum trolls :D
It weeps outrage.
But I have a cure for you. Go look at the new x-box, that is rage worthy. |

Viktor Mulder
Rise of Tangra GaNg BaNg TeAm
2
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:42:00 -
[69] - Quote
So. still no official info about the problem ? :( |

Whim Aqayn
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:47:00 -
[70] - Quote
Yeah, I want my login screens. They're mandatory. |
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Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
514
|
Posted - 2013.05.22 09:49:00 -
[71] - Quote
Chribba wrote:At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c
This. I still launch EVE from a exefile.exe shortcut.
Pushing out an SSO launcher shortly after a "Power of Two" drive ftl.
Looks like the yellow quafe shirt is more popular than I thought ;) |

Lyrrashae
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
437
|
Posted - 2013.05.22 10:07:00 -
[72] - Quote
Late EmpAge (when I putzed around with my first trial accounts), Quantum Rise (when I "actually" started), followed by Apocrypha, then...I guess Dominion, irrespective of the flaws of that expansion itself.
This music will always be EVE for me (love the pure menace of the very start):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcUpmuabchQ
Live better: Rage-post! |

FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
32
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:09:00 -
[73] - Quote
Luciana Mjolnir wrote:CCP are JOKE!
10 year! One product! Deployment procedure? Quality Control?
Well good luck with your other products. Hope you won't repeat same mistakes again.
I know how to fix my settings and stuff and continue playing, thank you. Will I play other CCP games? No! One horrible product is enough.
One horrible product and still playing it.
Funny   |

Luciana Mjolnir
Otbor Chereshka GaNg BaNg TeAm
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.22 10:14:00 -
[74] - Quote
FlamesOfHeaven wrote:Luciana Mjolnir wrote:CCP are JOKE!
......One horrible product is enough.
One horrible product and still playing it. Funny  
yeap :D Addictive... I need rehab :)
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Ein0r Niiminen
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:20:00 -
[75] - Quote
Since i really started with Retribution it should be Retris login screen :/ I liked th wow(!) effect this login screen had. It just looked so awesome. And now, this wow factor whenever i start the game is gone :(
This sums it up pretty good:
Quote:Not really one for complaining too much, but gotta admit, I do miss the animated log in screen, while it doesn't affect my gameplay, it does seem to make the experience of logging in a tad ermmmm "sterile" yeah think that's the adjective I'll go with.
It lost the feeling of: "And now you are going to enter the biggest mmo universe you have ever seen, right after this space station and those asteroids, just one simple login step away".
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
48
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Posted - 2013.05.22 11:19:00 -
[76] - Quote
its also important for new players, it's the first thing they see about the game, when i first started the game and did see the login screen I felt - yes this is great... now they just hop into the game, I think they should bring it back OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Whim Aqayn
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2013.05.22 11:31:00 -
[77] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:its also important for new players, it's the first thing they see about the game, when i first started the game and did see the login screen I felt - yes this is great... now they just hop into the game, I think they should bring it back I agree. I started during Apocrypha and have played at least for a bit during every new expansion since. I remember every login screen and every background theme associated with them fondly. The amount of atmosphere they added is clearly undervalued by CCP. |

Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
155
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Posted - 2013.05.22 11:42:00 -
[78] - Quote
The login screen really helps set the mood, especially for first time players. I started playing during Incarna (and hey look, I'm still here), and I really still miss that particular screen to this day. (Retribution comes second place). The mysterious, moody music; the visuals (RIP Quad Light Beam Sacrilege); I would actually have EVE's login screen running sometimes even when I wasn't playing.
Everything is first impressions. When the first thing you experience is the login screen, your first impression is "oh wow this looks amaaazzinnnggg." When the first thing you see in the launcher, followed by the login screen, it's still "oh wow this looks beautiful." Perhaps not quite as powerful, but you accept it because it's the norm these days, much like credits playing over the top of the first 5 minutes of a movie.
When the first thing you see is the launcher, followed by UI, followed by character stuff, followed by more UI, and then you're suddenly dropped into the game? It's a disjointed experience that leaves you wondering what you just logged into. Core Skills - train em up train em up! |

disasteur
Tellcomtec Gold
193
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Posted - 2013.05.22 11:51:00 -
[79] - Quote
CCP your launcher sux.... i didnt understand the meaning of the first launcher, and this one is even more crapier, spend some more time on other important things then screwing with useless crap nobody needs |

Sarmatiko
1128
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Posted - 2013.05.22 11:53:00 -
[80] - Quote
Viktor Mulder wrote:So 2 days after removing the login screen, we dont have any official answer ? How can you remove the login screen, we try to forgive the removal of the jukebox, but this is just too much s**t Actually we had official answer for almost one year:
CCP Explorer wrote: ... The login screen is very much a one-off custom-made window. In addition work is under way to move the login into the launcher and to get rid of the login screen.
Still, while change was expected, it was totally unexpected that CCP will rush with it before Odyssey, no matter what ("New launcher - yesterday in beta, today on TQ").
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Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
108
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Posted - 2013.05.22 11:56:00 -
[81] - Quote
Is this the correct forums post to whine about the new launcher!?!? 
I am most certainly not amused about this update. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
503
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:01:00 -
[82] - Quote
Whim Aqayn wrote:Harry Forever wrote:its also important for new players, it's the first thing they see about the game, when i first started the game and did see the login screen I felt - yes this is great... now they just hop into the game, I think they should bring it back I agree. I started during Apocrypha and have played at least for a bit during every new expansion since. I remember every login screen and every background theme associated with them fondly. The amount of atmosphere they added is clearly undervalued by CCP. A good point about new players and the atmosphere that the login screen helped to create. My computer at this point is so saturated with Eve material that it hardly matters. In fact I took down the cable wire going to the house the other day and just run things off of the virtual fluid router on this machine.
As for favorite opening, Probably Incursion. That was just creepy and I always wondered what it looked like inside the Sansha station. -áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:01:00 -
[83] - Quote
Destiny Corrupted wrote:... Marketing thinks it knows what it's doing.
Fixed. |

Raven Solaris
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
164
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:48:00 -
[84] - Quote
Azrael Dinn wrote: Is this the correct forums post to whine about the new launcher!?!?  I am most certainly not amused about this update.
No, that would be over here.
On another note, CCP_Explorer has confirmed no more in-game login screens:
https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/336964551025250304
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Anyura
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:51:00 -
[85] - Quote
Raven Solaris wrote:Azrael Dinn wrote: Is this the correct forums post to whine about the new launcher!?!?  I am most certainly not amused about this update. No, that would be over here. On another note, CCP_Explorer has confirmed no more in-game login screens: https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/336964551025250304
And EVE just lost a fraction of its soul. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2130
|
Posted - 2013.05.22 12:53:00 -
[86] - Quote
If CCP doesn't cave in here and pull this change, then we have effectively lost the power of voice as a community with them. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1932
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:07:00 -
[87] - Quote
Hey, nobody wanted that animated login screen after all. Just check what the CSM has to say on the issue:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3068630#post3068630
For Chris't sake, aren't we stupid?  The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Luke Eskar
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
18
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:12:00 -
[88] - Quote
F**K THIS NEW LAUNCHER ITS S**T I WANT MY DAMN LOG IN SCREEN BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!
This is bob. Copy and paste him so he can take over the eve forums. Gÿ+/ /Gûî /n++ \ |

Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
1148
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:27:00 -
[89] - Quote
Invisusira wrote:Everything is first impressions. When the first thing you experience is the login screen, your first impression is "oh wow this looks amaaazzinnnggg." When the first thing you see in the launcher, followed by the login screen, it's still "oh wow this looks beautiful." Perhaps not quite as powerful, but you accept it because it's the norm these days, much like credits playing over the top of the first 5 minutes of a movie.
When the first thing you see is the launcher, followed by UI, followed by character stuff, followed by more UI, and then you're suddenly dropped into the game? It's a disjointed experience that leaves you wondering what you just logged into.
Strongly agree with this. Being tossed from a launcher outside the game into the character selection screeen just cheapens the experience. The login screen set the mood, and change between login screens twice a year helped keep the game feeling fresh. Now, being dumped into character select screen at login totally removes all that from the picture. Major loss to the feel of the experience in entering the game. It has to be impressive, and it was. Now it's just weak and unimpressive.
What's more, with the removal of the Log Off button, EVE went back into 1990s. I'm sorry, but in an MMO with multiple characters, having to exit the game completely just to switch between characters on the same account is INCREDIBLY weak. Look at MMOs from 2004 and even earlier, and they had the ability to log off without exiting, This only exacerbates the many problems EVE has in this general area - like the player's inability to adjust the font, or change the font size in any significant way, and many others. Just makes the game feel really even more outdated than it has to be. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4087
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:38:00 -
[90] - Quote
xarjin wrote:Eve's iconic login screens have always made my days logging in an enjoyable experience. Eve's animated login really offers players very unique ominous and charismatic depth no other game has matched.
The new launcher login seems dry and uninspiring by comparison. Tis' a sad day when the fully animated login screen is rendered obsolete for a "technological improvement"
If you noticed, in the last years at CCP they are working hard at devastating their game, to make it dumb, BAD, to look like a cheap Korean Flash game and to remove useful and even advanced features.
Today the process took a new step to that end.
The only thing that never gets reduced in EvE is the subscription price. That one, no, it won't drop to be like a B class Korean game. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
9150
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:38:00 -
[91] - Quote
Not enough coffee yet to be appropriately snarky.
-1 on this change. Like the Jukebox vanishing, this is just another change that seems to suck the soul out of the game.
On top of a couple of other reasons, I have been losing my enthusiasm for even logging in recently, and have been enjoying playing Civilization V more than EVE lately. This doesn't help matters.
These radical changes to the very heart of EVE, sorry, not changes, but eliminations, are making it into a less immersive, vivid experience.
(sarcasm) Why do we need our pretty graphics ? We could still play if all we see is a marker for our ship. Who needs to see their actual ships ? 
This is a bad move CCP, and just what I expected when you crawled under the covers with Sony, tbh. -áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Anyura
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:51:00 -
[92] - Quote
Krixtal wrote:...and have been enjoying playing Civilization V more than EVE lately.
If this isn't a warning sign CCP screwed up I don't know what is.  |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1934
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:57:00 -
[93] - Quote
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:Invisusira wrote:Everything is first impressions. When the first thing you experience is the login screen, your first impression is "oh wow this looks amaaazzinnnggg." When the first thing you see in the launcher, followed by the login screen, it's still "oh wow this looks beautiful." Perhaps not quite as powerful, but you accept it because it's the norm these days, much like credits playing over the top of the first 5 minutes of a movie.
When the first thing you see is the launcher, followed by UI, followed by character stuff, followed by more UI, and then you're suddenly dropped into the game? It's a disjointed experience that leaves you wondering what you just logged into. Strongly agree with this. Being tossed from a launcher outside the game into the character selection screeen just cheapens the experience. The login screen set the mood, and change between login screens twice a year helped keep the game feeling fresh. Now, being dumped into character select screen at login totally removes all that from the picture. Major loss to the feel of the experience in entering the game. It has to be impressive, and it was. Now it's just weak and unimpressive. What's more, with the removal of the Log Off button, EVE went back into 1990s. I'm sorry, but in an MMO with multiple characters, having to exit the game completely just to switch between characters on the same account is INCREDIBLY weak. Look at MMOs from 2004 and even earlier, and they had the ability to log off without exiting, This only exacerbates the many problems EVE has in this general area - like the player's inability to adjust the font, or change the font size in any significant way, and many others. Just makes the game feel really even more outdated than it has to be.
Well, some CSM said that now t it would be easier to shift characters or something. 
You know, well conceived shops have a "cool down" spot by the door. People will get into the shop at street walking pace and will be oblivious to almost anything you put in their way until they slow down and mentally shift to "shop mode". Actually, demanding their attention in that phase makes them uncomfortable and prone to choose shops that won't bother them while they're "getting in". This is not bullshit, it's the fruit of 50 years of analyzing customer behavior.
Yet MMOs know better and they just hope you will jump into their product with a lame launcher that does anything but launch the game when you hit it, rather will make you wait while it does some other **** like updating or whatever. Then, once the launcher stops doing its lame launcher stuff and you eventually are allowed to play, some games will let you sink into them (FAI, with a nice character pick up screen) and others will unceremoniously throw you inside.
I hope CCP makes a cool character selection screen, maybe like the race/gender screen from character creator. Such a character selection screen would display your characters as clickable portraits on top of their full avatars, waiting to be picked and get into the game. THEN, it would be great that the background of such "cool down" character selection screen was an animated scene (*hint, hint*) and some expansion-themed background music played...  The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
391
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:00:00 -
[94] - Quote
I will miss the login screen dearly. It was always something to look forward to the new ones. Launchers are soulless.
That being said, I'll get over it.
However you have now made it a whole lot more difficult for me to switch characters, which is really fuckiing annoying. Why? |

Doddy
Dark-Rising
838
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:04:00 -
[95] - Quote
CCP has never heard of "if it isn't broken don't fix it".
I mean why did they actually do this? Soley to annoy people? |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
9151
|
Posted - 2013.05.22 14:15:00 -
[96] - Quote
Anyura wrote:Krixtal wrote:...and have been enjoying playing Civilization V more than EVE lately. If this isn't a warning sign CCP screwed up I don't know what is. 
Ain't that a fact.
Although one doesn't 'login' to Civ, it plays some terrific music and displays various historical pictures that change when starting up.
With this change, we just sort of get drop-kicked suddenly from reality into our hangar. -áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
156
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:19:00 -
[97] - Quote
Chandaris wrote:I will miss the login screen dearly. It was always something to look forward to the new ones. ^^^^
Very much this. New loading screens and music have honestly been one of my favorite things to get excited about when new expansions hit. Which sounds absolutely ridiculous. But it's true. It's one of those "little" things that just help really set the tone of the game.
Feature changes. Ship balancing. Maybe your favorite gun got nerfed. None of that matters when you're at the expansion's new login screen. For perhaps just that brief moment, everything in the game is new and exciting again. Your senses are overcome by something you have truly never experienced before, and it makes you excited to click that "Connect" button. Core Skills - train em up train em up! |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7945
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:24:00 -
[98] - Quote
Chandaris wrote:However you have now made it a whole lot more difficult for me to switch characters, which is really fuckiing annoying. Why?
It's supposed to be a first step towards easier character switching, so they made it more difficult to switch characters
It's a difficult line of logic, I know mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Wanderinlost
Task Force MK7
4
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:30:00 -
[99] - Quote
It would be nice if they made it possible to have multi-account login with the option to load a particular characters directly into the game. The character select is just one more additional layer of load time. |

Sarmatiko
1129
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:31:00 -
[100] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Enjoy your CSM representatives, community! Oh and dont forget to vote next time, because your voice is "important". 
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
959
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:33:00 -
[101] - Quote
Doddy wrote:CCP has never heard of "if it isn't broken don't fix it".
I mean why did they actually do this? Soley to annoy people?
Well I guess they (CCP) want to implement a better way of switching characters (at some point in the future and this is the first mis-step). For some reason the loading screen is in their way. Or more likely it's also a loading bar, albeit a very beautiful one which will be greatly missed because it adds *just* the right amount of atmosphere prior to entering the game in contrast to an ugly launcher.
Of course CCP being CCP, their first implementation of this turned like the inventory and so many other things prior to this, into a debacle. They'll fix it of course in due time.
I'm not even surprised anymore that this went so wrong for so many with the list of things 'that go bump in the night' when it comes to CCP patches and surprise changes. At least we still have our station environments (back).
A devblog BEFORE yesterdays patch, or a big announcement would had helped preventing/controling much of the current outrage.
I'm convinced by now that sadly they'll not learn from this, they didn't from the inventory so why from this? See you in 6 month's for the next episode of 'CCP what the Fuuuuuuu you do?'. :o |

pmchem
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
491
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:42:00 -
[102] - Quote
I believe the login screen's music and art (which changed each expansion) combined to form a piece of art and a unique user experience in a game.
They were iconic.
Removing them, while a technical advance and helpful for SSO, was implemented poorly because it just drops you to a much-less-artful character selection screen. The EVE new player experience will never be the same, and it is now a lesser experience. This is a matter of taste and elegance and whoever approved this change did not give enough merit to "this downgrades EVE as a matter of epic spaceship videogame art" factor.
CCP, please find a way to bring back the login screen art to some other part of the game -- so that people may experience what was one a high quality aspect of EVE. in-game screensaver? I don't know. But it's time for a team in Reyk to start brainstorming. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
9151
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:44:00 -
[103] - Quote
Andski wrote:Chandaris wrote:However you have now made it a whole lot more difficult for me to switch characters, which is really fuckiing annoying. Why? It's supposed to be a first step towards easier character switching, so they made it more difficult to switch characters It's a difficult line of logic, I know
Actually not difficult at all.
By making it more complex, once they whip it into some semblance of where it is currently, they can then claim an 'improvement'. -áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Anea Ruminare
10
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:45:00 -
[104] - Quote
What the..?
Please bring back the old login screen and please provide an answer for this change. 1 bump towards a threadnought for the sommer.
Thank you CCP, you keep us occupied.
P.S. for the guys that worried that the marketing division is driving these ******** changes, they are right. It brings conflict to the most important aspect of EVE Online, it`s forums, so enjoy.. and meet you in Lazerzzz Jita. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7947
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:58:00 -
[105] - Quote
pmchem wrote:I believe the login screen's music and art (which changed each expansion) combined to form a piece of art and a unique user experience in a game.
Let me emphasize that: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/press-releases/eve-online-featured-in-applied-design-moma-museum-of-modern-art-1/ mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
9153
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:17:00 -
[106] - Quote
The unfortunate thing about this for the subscribers is that in all honesty, the login screen and music is utterly irrelevant to game play and performance.
As far as reasons for keeping it go, we don't really have any strong logical legs to stand on concerning the issue.
Same with the vanished Jukebox. -áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:19:00 -
[107] - Quote
Whining about a login screen?
Pretty much one of the most pathetic whine threads of GD. And that takes really much.
Though, i can't deny a certain amusement about all the tears... "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7947
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:22:00 -
[108] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:The unfortunate thing about this for the subscribers is that in all honesty, the login screen and music is utterly irrelevant to game play and performance.
As far as reasons for keeping it go, we don't really have any strong logical legs to stand on concerning the issue.
Same with the vanished Jukebox.
It's irrelevant to people who have been playing for years and just ignore the login screen, but when you have people who feel like trying that spaceship game they read about somewhere, a login screen with a nice, artistic design looks a hell of a lot better than "log in through the launcher, get dropped into character selection, spin your ****** ibis around or walk around in a single-player closet" mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Dring Dingle
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
27
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:24:00 -
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My favourite was the one for.. I think incursion...? Incarna ??
It was the sacrilige with lasers flying past the screen, (probably was a devoter) but had the render of a sacrilige
Anyway, it was just awesome gliding past the login shooting a few times. Something that was lost after CCP started featuring asteriods in the login screen.
:(
o7 |

Raven Solaris
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
166
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:31:00 -
[110] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:The unfortunate thing about this for the subscribers is that in all honesty, the login screen and music is utterly irrelevant to game play and performance.
As far as reasons for keeping it go, we don't really have any strong logical legs to stand on concerning the issue.
Not necesarilly true.
"You're gonna see the first step in what I call the war on loading bars. So, I hate loading bars, I think they're old fashioned, and I'm much rather give people something beautiful." - Soundwave during the EVE Keynote.
With the new launcher, we've gone from this to this
This change is counter to the direction that CCP have said they want to go in. |
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Raven Solaris
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
166
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:32:00 -
[111] - Quote
Sebastian N Cain wrote:Whining about a login screen?
Pretty much one of the most pathetic whine threads of GD. And that takes really much.
Though, i can't deny a certain amusement about all the tears...
"Whining."
If you want whining, go look at the 120+ page threadnaught, the posts in this thread have been pretty damn cool headed thusfar. |

Hendrick Tallardar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:33:00 -
[112] - Quote
Bring back the art, or at least let us have the option. |

Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:37:00 -
[113] - Quote
Sebastian N Cain wrote:Whining about a login screen?
Pretty much one of the most pathetic whine threads of GD. And that takes really much.
Though, i can't deny a certain amusement about all the tears...
You , sir, are a tasteless toadie and a prattling poseur with absolutely no sense of style, uniqueness or flair. Your repetition of an overused meme just illustrates the fact that you are as incapable of independent thought as a rock is incapable of comprehending quantum mechanics.
The fact that you don't care about the loss of the login screen and thematic music, one of the things which used to set Eve apart from other MMOs is apparent and your opinion (wrongheaded as it is) duly noted.
Please return to the dank recesses of the nearest bridge from whence you came and resume your scaring of small children. Adults are here attempting to register their displeasure with one of CCP's latest ill conceived and poorly implemented design decisions. Thank you. |

Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
157
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:39:00 -
[114] - Quote
Sarmatiko wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Enjoy your CSM representatives, community! Oh and dont forget to vote next time, because your voice is "important".  Man, now I feel bad. I probably voted for that guy because he's in my alliance.
ps don't feed the trolls. npc corps mean business Core Skills - train em up train em up! |

Merrik Talorra
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
4
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:44:00 -
[115] - Quote
pmchem wrote:I believe the login screen's music and art (which changed each expansion) combined to form a piece of art and a unique user experience in a game.
They were iconic.
Removing them, while a technical advance and helpful for SSO, was implemented poorly because it just drops you to a much-less-artful character selection screen. The EVE new player experience will never be the same, and it is now a lesser experience. This is a matter of taste and elegance and whoever approved this change did not give enough merit to "this downgrades EVE as a matter of epic spaceship videogame art" factor.
CCP, please find a way to bring back the login screen art to some other part of the game -- so that people may experience what was one a high quality aspect of EVE. in-game screensaver? I don't know. But it's time for a team in Reyk to start brainstorming.
I agree. The music, the images, they've been an iconic part of the EVE experience. And with the loss of the jukebox I would fire up a login and let it sit just to play the nice login tunes.
Maybe the old screen could sit behind our character selection/news info? The station could spin there and the music could play. |

Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:45:00 -
[116] - Quote
Malcanis is an arrogant, narrowminded jerk and his response in that linked thread is not surprising. Nice dismissive attitude there.
Glad I didn't vote for him. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
9154
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:46:00 -
[117] - Quote
Sebastian N Cain wrote:Whining about a login screen?
Pretty much one of the most pathetic whine threads of GD. And that takes really much.
Though, i can't deny a certain amusement about all the tears...
-1 troll attempt. Try harder.
Labeling this as whining is just that, your own labeling. It means nothing. -áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Arcelian
House of Praetor R O G U E
13
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:49:00 -
[118] - Quote
Wow, this is some total bullshit. I really hope they replace it with something better, because that really, really sucks. The launcher has no flavor. |

Slutvana Khorkina
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:59:00 -
[119] - Quote
What a curious thread. Usually anything that isn't "omg !!! spaceships in space!!!" is to be purged from all of Eve. Now a whole thread waxing nostalgic for a login screen and theme music. What next? Cats and dogs sleeping together?
I turned off the music the 2nd week of Eve so I guess I'm missing out on that grandeur. For what its worth, I only have 3 accounts, but find the new launcher adept at launching them as the old way. "Imagine the kind of stories people would read about EVE if the carebears got their wish. 'In EVE Online, some people mined. They arranged their mining lasers, and then they did something else for several minutes. Sign up for your free 14 day trial now!'" -- James 315 |

Vera Denjuros
Desertus Caterva
7
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:04:00 -
[120] - Quote
Nostalgia aside (its not something im given to) the new login/launcher screen is a step backwards in my opinion.
It looks terrible. Its cluttered, there is a ton of information on it and half of it you really dont need when you are logging in. You know there is something wrong when 9 out of 10 functions on the launcher screen sends you to a website link that is opened in a browser. How is that usefull? Instead of adding useless clutter to the launcher, add one link that sendsyou to the eve online main site if you really think people need that option. Chances are that you allready have a browser window open anyway, as that is most likely the first thing you open after booting up your pc.
Meanwhile the login/launcher screen doesnt even let you change the settings of your eve client, woops. And Im not sure about this, but it seems I cant open the launcher while I have a eve client running allready. need another client open? Nope sorry you have to close the one you are running to open the launcher... What?
The launcher screen is there to send you into the game as painlessly as possible and granted, you can now login directly from the launcher but in fact when you compare the new with the old functionality, you really arent getting much in terms of ease-of-use with the new. The only step made redundant by this new launcher? The play button on the old launcher! which could be bypassed by having a shortcut directly to the client. So really what you have done is you have replaced the old animated in-game login screen which had bucketfulls of style, with a combination launcher and login screen that is an absolute eye-sore!
This is the equivalent of google changing their simplistic and functional style, with something that looks like freakin' yahoo. |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
9154
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:04:00 -
[121] - Quote
Slutvana Khorkina wrote:What a curious thread. Usually anything that isn't "omg !!! spaceships in space!!!" is to be purged from all of Eve. Now a whole thread waxing nostalgic for a login screen and theme music. What next? Cats and dogs sleeping together?
I turned off the music the 2nd week of Eve so I guess I'm missing out on that grandeur. For what its worth, I only have 3 accounts, but find the new launcher adept at launching them as the old way.
I can't really argue with this at all.
But I don't pay every single month for 4 accounts just to have CCP give me only utilitarian functionality. -áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Whim Aqayn
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:10:00 -
[122] - Quote
Slutvana Khorkina wrote:What a curious thread. Usually anything that isn't "omg !!! spaceships in space!!!" is to be purged from all of Eve. Now a whole thread waxing nostalgic for a login screen and theme music. What next? Cats and dogs sleeping together?
I turned off the music the 2nd week of Eve so I guess I'm missing out on that grandeur. For what its worth, I only have 3 accounts, but find the new launcher adept at launching them as the old way. But the login-screen depicts "omg !!! spaceships in space!!!".
Your point is moot. |

Carniflex
StarHunt Intrepid Crossing
84
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:39:00 -
[123] - Quote
Chribba wrote:At least (for now) you can bypass the launcher using exefile.exe, but unlikely that one will remain for a long time...
The SSO login is pretty bad for those that have multiple clients.
/c
Yeah. It's particularly bad if you have to log in more than few clients in through that thing. Hell, even guys with just 2 accounts hate it in my corp. I'm myself at 6 atm and after doing it 2 times (having to click thru EULA both times btw) I were forced to just do the "direct link to ExeFile.exe".
I particularly dont like the extra poinless additional click which you have to do already after you have inserted the login details and pressed enter. then it loads for a little while and then you will have to push "Play" button to play that account - like really ? Would I enter my password and press enter if I would not like to play the game ? And only after you have pressed the "play" can you pick the "switch account" to login next account as otherwise no client is opened for you. Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |

Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
2905
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:09:00 -
[124] - Quote
If I could choose, I'd like the old login screen and with music, even though I don't keep the ingame music on.
Purpose of a login screen is to put the player in the right mood, "here ends reality and you're a capsuleer again". Launcher, while handy and all, does not server this purpose very well.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |

C DeLeon
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
138
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:43:00 -
[125] - Quote
The login screens have emotional value. It's setting up the mood before logging in to the game and the previous logins screens gives nostalgic feelings about early gaming experiences. For me the logins screens are also feels like bookmarks/reminders how the developement of the game progressed. Logins screens makes us feel like expansions are actually expansions and not just content patches.
I understand that the new launcher makes the login screen unnecessary, but it would be cool to see and hear the login theme at least during the character selection. |

Erly Jaister
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:59:00 -
[126] - Quote
Some changes improve the game, some don't. This one certainly doesn't  |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1944
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:49:00 -
[127] - Quote
After thinking a bit more on it, i am liking my idea posted above: make the character selection screen be like the old login screen!
It's a pity that we can't count on the CSM about this, though. They're doing some Serious Business(TM) and can't be bothered with what the players think on something that Nobody Who Matters deems relevant. We're lucky to have the CSM to rescue us from our Stupid, though. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

DYK Bukk
Ceti Alpha Incorporated Zenith Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:50:00 -
[128] - Quote
When I started my free EVE trial. The log in screen was a contributing factor into my decision to lay out the money for a subscription. Every time I logged in, I felt as if I was entering a vast universe and was excited to play.
Even now as a veteran player of EVE I still enjoyed each new expansion theme. The art and the music was great. I am sad to see it go. It now feels as if I am just dropped into a barren game. Logging in is not exciting now. Its just logging in. like logging in to look at my bank statement. And seeing the subscription fees to play EVE. Something that needs done but is just boring. I believe that some new players may not make that decision for a paid subscription. because of this bland log in. Which will lessen EVE. ( IMO ) |

Kamii Yo
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:54:00 -
[129] - Quote
Please bring it back CCP :( this makes me so sad |

Zak Breen
Beagle Expeditions
41
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:56:00 -
[130] - Quote
There's always people complaining about something... |
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Barbelo Valentinian
Justified Chaos
359
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Posted - 2013.05.22 21:00:00 -
[131] - Quote
It reminds me very much of what happened in Incarna re. "ship spinning".
CCP: you do realize that people who have been here for a long time think of EVE as a kind of second "home", right? There is a certain amount of bonding to the game that comes with familiarity, and a certain subtle sense of tradition. Of course some things can change over time. But other things are fundamental.
For example, new 3-d artwork for an expansion, new music, the sound of "Connecting" - these are fundamental. Triivial, in appearance, to be sure, but psychologically fundamental in the sense of keeping players bonded to the game. These are traditions by now. So we hear that while you can workaround to still get them now, they'll eventually be gone (unsupported - probably to disappear unceremoniously in some later update).
Not saying such things can't ever be changed, but you need to be more tactful about blithely re-arranging peoples' homes. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1757
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Posted - 2013.05.22 21:08:00 -
[132] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:First time I am happy I am on a Mac after an expansion. Still have old launcher and log in screen :).
Same here. I will try to enjoy every last minute of it. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
1951
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Posted - 2013.05.23 07:06:00 -
[133] - Quote
Well, something is better than nothing... CCP Dolan picked up the idea of the animated/themed character selection screen, apparently: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3074472#post3074472 The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Derdrom Utida
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
44
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Posted - 2013.05.23 07:47:00 -
[134] - Quote
Just chiming in:
I remember when I first logged in, that red background for Dominion is what really made me think, "Woa, I'm about to be in space."
That creepy vibe that the Incursion login screen had me wanting to explore Sansha space more than other factions.
I still listen to the Incarna and Crucible themes, and hum them occasionally.
CCP: While you're trying you're best to be convenient, you have to remember that people play EVE because games aren't made like these anymore. Getting rid of a login screen means more than you think. :( |

Whim Aqayn
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.05.23 10:20:00 -
[135] - Quote
Derdrom Utida wrote:Just chiming in:
I remember when I first logged in, that red background for Dominion is what really made me think, "Woa, I'm about to be in space."
That creepy vibe that the Incursion login screen had me wanting to explore Sansha space more than other factions.
I still listen to the Incarna and Crucible themes, and hum them occasionally.
CCP: While you're trying you're best to be convenient, you have to remember that people play EVE because games aren't made like these anymore. Getting rid of a login screen means more than you think. :(
Can't emphasize this enough. Sentimental value, atmosphere and immersion are immensely important for these kind of games. That's also a reason I hope we never get a Hello Kitty skin for any of the ships or something like that. I'd immediately uninstall and never look back. |

Laenatus
Ninth House Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.05.24 00:11:00 -
[136] - Quote
I friggen hate the new patcher too, for all the reasons stated...
you guys made one of the best looking login screens ever, and then you ***** it out to a ****** 6x6 window filled with links to **** i could give a **** about.
You took the art away and gave us a bunch of flyers, thanks.
Now i have to launch the exe directly, and whenever you guys do a patch...deal with that. v0v
you guys **** a lot of **** up, so this isn't that bad. |

Aliventi
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
84
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Posted - 2013.05.24 02:50:00 -
[137] - Quote
The log in screen and music is iconic of Eve Online. It was the great transition between the real world and Eve. It gave you a few moments to collect your thoughts before plunging in to another great adventure.
So many of us watch the old log in screens and remember the good old days. We remember where we were and what we were doing when we logged in and were greeted by those screens and the music. When we visit youtube and watch those old log in screens again it's the purest form of wonderful nostalgia this game can offer.
Sure. You can argue that all it is is nolstagia. A waste of Dev resources and effort. But I think you will have hard time arguing that they added nothing to the game. If fact I think it would be quite easy to find lots of examples of those who love the log in screen and felt it added to Eve. This thread is filled with a significant number of them.
From what I have seen there were always two things that people looked forward to every expansion: the Log in screen/music and the expansion trailer. Those are the two things that people argue about which is the best. That noobs can look up on youtube and get a small glimpse in to the Eve us veterans have played. They remind us of how far we have come the past 10 years.
CCP please take the time to reconsider eliminating the Log in screen and music. To some it may not matter. Yes, it may make things 5 seconds quicker. But there are a lot of us who would dearly miss them and gladly continue to sacrifice 5 seconds every time we log in. They are one of the things that made Eve. Remember: sometimes it's the small things that matter most. |

None ofthe Above
595
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Posted - 2013.05.24 03:48:00 -
[138] - Quote
Andski wrote:CCP sees fantastic login numbers and decides "you know what? let's make logging in more cumbersome"
By the same logic as nerfing the Drake: Too many people using login screen, must be overpowered!
Honestly, I'll be fine with loosing the login screen if they redesign the character selection screen to be as compelling (themed by expansion of course). I hope you voted, you glorious but often apathetic bastards! STV working as intended; Pre-elections and Get out the Vote, room for improvement. |

they all float
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.24 04:26:00 -
[139] - Quote
I was at a coffee shop when I fired up the login screen during inferno. Someone came up to me and asked what movie was I watching... you wouldnt get that experience with a plain login.
The old login inspired me to explore the depths of internet space. It inspired wonder.
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
699
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:10:00 -
[140] - Quote
i'm getting tired of this launcher now, despite it working. It does nothing for eve other than make it take longer to start up the game, and longer to start up multiple accounts. You shouldn't make it if it doesn't improve anything. If you want to shove eve news down our throats you should do it WHILST improving the things we really care about, as in the ability to switch characters quickly or start up your alts quickly. Also, not ever seeing the splash screen is a STUPID idea. I hope you fix that crap soon. Delete this launcher or make something that actually poses some benefit. Not only can the launcher not provide any nice features like the rendered ships and animations of the splash screen, but it does everything the splash screen did that players actually care about, thus being pointless to work on.
It previously didn't annoy me because it was a single click of difference, but now i have to look at it instead of the splash screen. Boy, is that aggravating.
You guys are talking about seamless change between things in the game, why should we have to see another window before we get into the game? The game should be the game, not another window, then the game. We want to play the game when we want to play it, not see other crap.
Either make the launcher look essentially exactly like the splash screen with possibly a bar for current patch download progress/news, or not even use a launcher. Easy as that. |
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
700
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:26:00 -
[141] - Quote
None ofthe Above wrote:Andski wrote:CCP sees fantastic login numbers and decides "you know what? let's make logging in more cumbersome" By the same logic as nerfing the Drake: Too many people using login screen, must be overpowered! Honestly, I'll be fine with loosing the login screen if they redesign the character selection screen to be as compelling (themed by expansion of course).
The drake wasn't nerfed, only heavy missiles were.
oh wait, are you one of the people who never used HAMs? You know, the things that actually do DPS on a drake? Those got buffed...so they actually buffed the drake, the GOOD drake that is... |

Eko Fromtv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.24 10:47:00 -
[142] - Quote
Incarna has the best login screen combo: music in synch with the Sacrilege turrets shooting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8oNeuXzx6c
Miner for life. |

Null Slinger
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.05.24 10:59:00 -
[143] - Quote
They've had 13+ pages of feedback over in https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690 but CPP have been very silent in the face of a lot of criticism of the new launcher.
The really need to address this - if they just roll it out as mandatory on 4th June they are going to lose subscriptions! |

Atlantis Fuanan
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
5
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:14:00 -
[144] - Quote
Null Slinger wrote:They've had 13+ pages of feedback over in https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690but CPP have been very silent in the face of a lot of criticism of the new launcher. The really need to address this - if they just roll it out as mandatory on 4th June they are going to lose subscriptions!
Would YOU stop playing a game because of a crappy launcher? I wouldn't. But still this new Launcher is "not good". I liked the old way more thatn the current one. |

Juno Libertas
Pawnstars INC The Fendahlian Collective
105
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:18:00 -
[145] - Quote
As a pretty young character I never really had the chance to see all expansion login screens but I remember the first time I saw the login screen I went WOAH.
RIP Login Screen, perhaps they can revamp the character selection screen to make up for it. |

Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
94
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:47:00 -
[146] - Quote
Juno Libertas wrote:As a pretty young character I never really had the chance to see all expansion login screens but I remember the first time I saw the login screen I went WOAH.
RIP Login Screen, perhaps they can revamp the character selection screen to make up for it.
Hell, often I would leave EVE running at the login screen whilst doing my work. There's just something about it... I love to reload during a battle!-áThere's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile into a well greased chamber... |

Whim Aqayn
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:52:00 -
[147] - Quote
Juno Libertas wrote:As a pretty young character I never really had the chance to see all expansion login screens but I remember the first time I saw the login screen I went WOAH.
RIP Login Screen, perhaps they can revamp the character selection screen to make up for it. This might be acceptable if it is accompanied by a great picture and soundtrack. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5160
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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:22:00 -
[148] - Quote
The login screen is still there. It's really easy to get it back. Just don't use the launcher. Problem solved. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |

Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
700
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Posted - 2013.05.25 05:45:00 -
[149] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:The login screen is still there. It's really easy to get it back. Just don't use the launcher. Problem solved.
The thing is, new players won't get the splash screen unless they know to bypass it, the experience of the game will be different, will just launch without any nice visuals into the game, it's a bit saddening. |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
201
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Posted - 2013.05.25 05:53:00 -
[150] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:The login screen is still there. It's really easy to get it back. Just don't use the launcher. Problem solved.
There will be a new one for Odyssey we can see by bypassing the launcher until they take away that ability? You're a genius! |
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
2077
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Posted - 2013.05.25 07:31:00 -
[151] - Quote
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:The login screen is still there. It's really easy to get it back. Just don't use the launcher. Problem solved. There will be a new one for Odyssey we can see by bypassing the launcher until they take away that ability? You're a genius!
Actually, you'll have to explore and hack (see what i did there?) the .bin files in order to find it and make it available!  The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
55
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Posted - 2013.05.25 07:51:00 -
[152] - Quote
R.I.P Login screen. I was talking about this and I just loved it... I'd sit on the login screen for a while because of the epicness. My four favorites:
Empyrean Age Revelation II Apocrypha Crucible
But I love all the logins too.
R.I.P Login + Login music, your epicness will never be forgotten and will always be loved. |

thorgil
Salvag. INC FEDERATION SOLARIS
3
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:33:00 -
[153] - Quote
What they should do is revamping the toon selection pannel. Just replace the old user/password box by your 3 toon face.
ps : i prefer reading news and adverts on a nice screen with music, instead of a wall-of-text launcher.
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Tatsujin Kagaku
Dussault Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:11:00 -
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I've disabled my firewall (ESET Smart security) I've launched the game from launcher, it tell me I'm offline while I'm reading the eve forums. cool (https btw) So I launch the game via exefile.exe, and it tells me there is a 6mb download. I let it download, and install. Next TIme I open the game via exefile. it points out the exact same update. almost like it did nothing to update. Last time it did this, I wiped the game, and downloaded the full install again out of despiration. All 5GB of it. This worked. But now with the next update it does the same. Sorry, I can't download 5gb every time there is a 6mb patch. I've tried to log petitions, but it take support a week to reply to any of my petition posts.
Should I rather suspend my account for another 6 months then try again? |

Raven Solaris
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:35:00 -
[155] - Quote
...What? |

Asptar Monastair
Adventurers
1
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:51:00 -
[156] - Quote
Silver lining:
https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/eve-online-odyssey-2013-login
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Mjollnir Arcote
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
6
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Posted - 2013.06.04 13:30:00 -
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Well it sounds like CCP are working to kick my eve habit. The new launcher hasn't worked for me since they launched it. None of the fixes work and frankly its no loss anyway, the old login works much better from what I'm hearing from everyone. |

Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
58
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:38:00 -
[158] - Quote
Join today!  |

Kaidan Maulerant
Viventes in Spatio
0
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Posted - 2013.06.14 14:15:00 -
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I seriously ask you to bring back our login screens. These are vital part of the first time in game experience, when you launch Eve for the first time and you see the login screen, that momment remains in your memories. Now this launcher thing is just basic thing that every mmo has, there is not a single good reason to remove login screens to replace them with launcher. |

Shanerous Lorenthien
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:27:00 -
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Don't let this thread die!!
We all still want a return to the log-in screen that we all loved replete with the artwork and the soundtrack. This launcher crap sucks! Thank goodness the work-around is still working to bypass the launcher completely, but for how much longer will that remain? What will we all do when we are FORCED to use the launcher everyday??
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