Please don't misconstrue what I said; I love the fact that you find it better and faster (that was essentially the point) it's just that from the tone of the forum not many people agree with your position.

I want to work with those who don't agree and find either ways to meet them in the middle, bring them around to my point of thinking or come up with an acceptable solution

The Singularity testing thread was run for almost four weeks, and to begin with was a goodwill opt in test. The logs we were seeing and the feedback we were getting, we felt that we were in a good position to release. One thing I have learnt is that goodwill testing isn't enough; for a change to the Launcher we should have made it a mandatory switch from the very beginning.

Maybe if the test server had some sort of real reward you would get more participation

We've never given a date, so I don't know where you've come across the idea that it will be in a few days. In many threads so far I've stated that it won't be before Odyssey, and I even stated only a few posts previously in this very thread "Whilst I can't give you an estimated time of arrival on when we will remove the old login screen, it will be at a point in time after people are comfortable with our new login paradigm and feel that the Launcher is offering them comparable functionality."

That won't be in a "few days"

And if you need to update your client do that with repair tool. Works faster and more reliably.

After Incarna, I shut down three of my 5 accounts. I didn't totally unsubscribe, but I never threatened to, either.

Doesn't work at all at the moment.

This is an idea I would participate in! Pay us for testing with imaginary money you make yourselves (or imaginary skill points or whatever) and I promise you you'd see a huge increase in participation.

Edit: I borked the quote lol

Maybe, just maybe if the feedback was listened to, people might want to test on SiSi but since the track record is:
~ the users are wrong push it out anyway

Why bother testing and posting feedback?

Maybe, just maybe if the feedback was listened to, people might want to test on SiSi but since the track record is:
~ the users are wrong push it out anyway
Why bother testing and posting feedback?

CCP Atropos noted that there had not been much feedback when the Launcher was on SiSi but some negative feedback from players when it went live. He had been expecting more CSM feedback.

Sigh. I think this new launcher is one of those situations where "it wasn't broken, don't fix it". The loss of the iconic log-in screen, difficulties dealing with settings over the last couple of days, and having to close about ten instances of the launcher through Windows Task Manager... it's been annoying, to say the least. Honestly not seeing the net improvement at the moment.

1: Change your eve lauching shortcuts to exefile.exe and ignore launcher altogether.
CCP Atropos claimed there are ways to differentiate between people launching eve with launcher or exefile. Let them see we don't use launcher, as a measurable sign it's broken.
And if you need to update your client do that with repair tool. Works faster and more reliably.

Its not exactly hard to understand why they do this.

When advertisement interrupts you TV movie its not cause the TV program caster thinks you LOVE to watch ads,
but cause they make money off it.
The comparison can be made to this new launcher, tho the money gains are indirect.

Makes sense from a economic point of view, but not when performance is screwed around with, pissing off your current
customers.

Also; I think its reasonably safe to assume a fair % of the customers do not read EVE-O forum regularly, nor aware
of channels like Twitch; so reaching them thru a launcher that you are FORCED to look at each time you want to log
into the game is a reasonably good idea on paper, IF it had been implimented well. Which it so far hasnt.

The beta testers on SiSi said not to roll this out because of the issues we're now facing and complaining about. This was the same with Incarna in 2011, and the same with Unified Inventory in 2012.

BTW, and I know this is the wrong place to bring this up, but

Is there anyone else who feels that training two characters on the same account, if you have the PLEX, is NOT pay 2 win?

Sure, some players make enough to be able to afford PLEXes for two, but is that an option that is financially feasible for the majority? I don't think so.

So the people who are willing to throw cash at the game rule? Well, they will if Pay For Skills is implemented.

I can't make that statement, because it wouldn't be true. At some undetermined point in the future it will be removed. I can however restate what I've already posted and say that it won't go away until the functionality you're making use of and desire is available in the EVE Launcher.

Oh, I understand why they do it. It's all about money for them, and has nothing to do with us.

Let's see, they say they have 500,000 paid accounts at something like $15 each. That would be something like 7.5 Million dollars per month. 90 Million dollars a year. That's not enough? How many yachts does Hilmar need?

Maybe, just maybe if the feedback was listened to, people might want to test on SiSi but since the track record is:
~ the users are wrong push it out anyway

Why bother testing and posting feedback?

Edit: Posting because I noticed my Steam account has that error that says I have no accounts associated with Eve. I can still log in. Just a weird message.

Posting for the same reason. What's this for? Are we able to connect our Steam accounts to the launcher (now or in the future)?

I can't make that statement, because it wouldn't be true. At some undetermined point in the future it will be removed. I can however restate what I've already posted and say that it won't go away until the functionality you're making use of and desire is available in the EVE Launcher.