You can, yes. The old login method still exists for the moment, however with login moved into the EVE Launcher then the concept of the old login screen simply doesn't make sense.


I agree that the old login screen was iconic, and I understand the passion with which many people have objected to it's deprecation. We've been discussing this quite extensively amongst the teams involved and we have some ideas that mesh with the move of login to the EVE Launcher and the desire to have an immersive experience akin to the current one.

Somebody posted some pretty tantalising ideas/concept art for a revamped character screen that were very intriguing; maybe someone with better forum search skills than I can find them and repost the link.

so why have the launcher then? the old client allowed me to do this.

SSO is all well and good if you only have 1 or 2 accounts, but when you run more than that, you now get screwed by SSO. this is what needs to be addressed and currently is not even a speck on ccp's radar

we do feel this special case does require a special thank you (for your patience) from CCP.

Linux no. I posted a thread a few weeks ago in the Linux subforum specifically to let them know that we were working on a new Launcher and that usual caveats applied for supporting Linux. We don't support Linux, and so whilst I don't enjoy the fact that EVE Launcher returns a timeout error when run under Wine, I'm not going to dedicate significant resources for what appears to be an issue in Wine.

I'm open to dialog on the Linux issue however, since I'm well aware that the Linux gaming market is growing thanks in no small part to the work Steam and nVidia have been doing. That said, it's not a platform that we support and any time allocated to an unsupported platform will probably end up coming out of my spare time when I could be enjoying the wonderful Icelandic summer.

As for the Mac, you should note that we haven't released the update for the Mac yet, because we wanted to separate any possible issues to a single platform only. The problems that Mac users were reporting on the 21st were related solely to the service outage we had on our webservers.

Atropos, do you realise that the launcher leaks memory horribly after you've closed it? Closing and reopening the launcher 10 times will result in 10 dead processes using a total of over 1GB RAM to do precisely nothing.

Just another bad thing to add to the list.

Its so in the future they can add other buttons, like "Test server" (connects to Sisi) "Chat" (Just gives you the chat window) "Trade" (Just gives you the tools to manage orders and station inventory), "Talk" (just Eve voice), "Skills" (Just lets you do your skill tree) and so on. Many of these would be enabled for both PC and mobile devices. In the future entering your credentials will not be sufficient to show your intention as to what you want to do, as there will be many things to do.

Now, what they could do is have all those buttons show up as soon as a password is typed in. Then instead of having to type in a password, hit Enter, then click a button, you just type your password and click a button.

With the deployment of Retribution 1.2.4 and the deployment of the new launcher, we received reports internally and externally that people were unable to connect to Tranquility thanks to some misconfigured servers. While this issue was not universally experienced and over 30,000 pilots were able to log in normally before we fixed the issue, we do feel this special case does require a special thank you (for your patience) from CCP.

During tomorrow's downtime we will add 50.000 skillpoints (representing roughly a dayGÇÖs worth of intense skill training) to the character with the highest number of skill points on each active account (the presumed main). HereGÇÖs a quick guide on how to apply those skillpoints.

We're sorry for the inconvenience and we hope you can use these skill points on your adventures.

Your voices have been heard loud and clear and we've been busy taking notes so we'd like to ask you to help us move forward in this thread and keep the feedback focused and constructive. Thank you.

Do you guys/gals at CCP ever get sick of making the gameplay experience worse for the users almost everytime y'all try to improve something?

With the deployment of Retribution 1.2.4 and the deployment of the new launcher, we received reports internally and externally that people were unable to connect to Tranquility thanks to some misconfigured servers. While this issue was not universally experienced and over 30,000 pilots were able to log in normally before we fixed the issue, we do feel this special case does require a special thank you (for your patience) from CCP.

This is incorrect. Eve Launcher and Eve websites are part of the same universe. This is more like Logging into Google Chrome and expecting it to also sign me in to my GMAIL account. Since Google Chrome and GMAIL are both part of google, this works. The same should work for Eve Launcher and Eve Forums.

i have yet to recieve any skill points,and as i said in the petition i filed i couldnt log in for 6 hours, i patched repatched "repaired" over and over and did the force refresh on the two pages like the wiki says, im suprised i didnt recieve any skill points :/ my launcher still doesnt work i STILL have to use the exefile.exe to login my toons :( and no one can help me fix this it seems im just told to keep doing what ive been doing, repatch repair force refresh repair delete repair....damnit man

You may want to revisit that thread of yours in the linux section again.

There is already a user providing his own coded launcher for eve using your new logon mechanics.

It comes complete with sourcecode on github.

You could integrate that solution into your broken-on-wine launcher and make it available via a checkbox or via a configuration file parameter.

During tomorrow's downtime we will add 50.000 skillpoints (representing roughly a dayGÇÖs worth of intense skill training) to the character with the highest number of skill points on each active account (the presumed main). HereGÇÖs a quick guide on how to apply those skillpoints.

We're sorry for the inconvenience and we hope you can use these skill points on your adventures.

I see PL is being mature as usual.

In all seriousness, this was a huge, huge (censored) of a deployment.

Any sort of new login method needs to support the following, natively, with nothing more complicated then your average eve player could be expected to figure out.

Multiple clients rapidly launched from a single install.

Multiple clients from more then one install location, while maintaining separate settings for each install path, even if an account logs in from more then one install path at different times.

Multiple clients using junction links (simlinks for you *nix dudes :) ), also maintaining separate settings for each install path, even if an account logs in from more then one install path at different times.

Any sort of cloud based settings storage *must* respect the fact that if I am logging into another machine (such as a laptop) it is possible that I want the same settings, but absolutely not the expectation. To that end, I propose the following:

The first time you log in for a given machine and install path combo, save that config info to the cloud as a non blocking background task by default.

When logging in on a new machine, where the install path is the same, don't import/use the cloud settings for that install path. If there is any local config use that, otherwise use eve defaults.

On the login screen have a checkbox "use default settings for this install from the cloud", when checked prompt the user "are you sure? existing settings will be replaced by the default cloud settings for this install path!"

On the in-game settings page, have an indication if the current client is in sync with the cloud, and if it is currently set as the default. Have a button to save the settings from that client as the default for that install path, have a confirmation prompt of course.

Once that is working, allow the cloud settings to also save more then the default. (use a randomly generated GUID stored locally in the launcher directory to track when you log in from a new computer). Allow the user to name each "computer" or "set", but assign defaults for speed.

On the login screen, have a "settings management" that opens up a list of your computers, where the settings for each install path can be set as default, or cloned between computers. If possible, separate things that are more hardware dependent (screen resolution, graphics settings) and universal (chat channels open, over view settings).

Could you tell me your reasons for having more than one installation (either physical or via junctions/symlinks) if you are able to start a client with a given set of settings.

There are ways to allow a second session to be initiated but those aren't available yet, as I also detailed, due to the concerns I already laid out.

Could you tell me your reasons for having more than one installation (either physical or via junctions/symlinks) if you are able to start a client with a given set of settings.

If you log into Google in Chrome and then start up a second, different browser (as I said originally, Firefox for example) you won't be signed in in that second browser because the session is stored only in the one browser.

There are ways to allow a second session to be initiated but those aren't available yet, as I also detailed, due to the concerns I already laid out.

Personally, I run multiple installs via junctions to maintain different sets of settings for each install. In my case, the base install is max graphics while the junction is minimal.

This gives me the ability to quickly choose between the two sets of settings for each client I launch, considering that my priorities depends on the number of accounts I am going to be logging in and what I am going to be doing with them (spinning in station or getting into an Asakai-level fight).

So, although This News Release concerning SSO states, "After logging in once you will not need to re-enter your credentials when you visit another EVE Online website that also uses SSO"
And CCP Phantom said in This Post "The main change is a new and improved landing page and a new login mechanism which will allow you to log into EVE Online using our SSO (single sign on) service."

This does not mean that signing into the new SSO capable launcher will allow you to visit another website that uses SSO without re-entering your credentials. Do I have it right now?