Official comment about this thread please.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=239683&find=unread

Please don't misconstrue what I said; I love the fact that you find it better and faster (that was essentially the point) it's just that from the tone of the forum not many people agree with your position.

I want to work with those who don't agree and find either ways to meet them in the middle, bring them around to my point of thinking or come up with an acceptable solution

Kind of sad in my opinion that players themselves are in some cases finding fixes that CCP cannot. Should be CCPs job to make sure they have a working product when they release it, and not these issues they have had recently. Makes me wonder about the quality control process at CCP, and if perhaps some new method should be applied.

Perhaps making it much easier to get onto Singularity for people who aren't technologically advanced enough to accomplish the task of doing so in order to make the testing. Maybe some kind of opt in option when you install the Eve client that automatically sets up a Singularity client on your computer along with the Tranquility one. Adding some kind of incentive on Tranquility along with making the feature I described above would most likely make the testing more real world and more bugs could be found.

I think if there was easier access to Singularity with Tranquility incentives, CCP could get better real world results and find the bugs that need to be found without having all these release day problems.

What kind of comment are you looking for?

tbh if you said you wont ever get rid of the bin folder bypass id never post on this subject again.

its a solution that im happy with and offers me the functionality that I need

Likely hood of official launcher getting same functionality soon. Strength of his code?
Could you just borrow his code and all would be well or now that a player has coded it will it take longer for same functionality to reach the launcher.

His launcher was going to be brought up some time might as well be ahead of the issue.

What kind of comment are you looking for?

Most of the features that are in the linked thread were on our backlog except the storage of passwords. Password storage wasn't done in the EVE client for security reasons and we don't do it in the EVE Launcher for those same reasons. As for when, I can't really say. I also would not like to comment on the code; primarily because it could be misconstrued as some sort of official support or endorsement or the code, project and initiative.

I can't make that statement, because it wouldn't be true. At some undetermined point in the future it will be removed. I can however restate what I've already posted and say that it won't go away until the functionality you're making use of and desire is available in the EVE Launcher.

Password storage wasn't done in the EVE client for security reasons and we don't do it in the EVE Launcher for those same reasons.

While concerns about user security are valid, please let me worry about my own security.

I kinda get why they are using the lancher to promote Twitch for example.

Lately EVE has made it to the frontpage of the twitch games page, intitally thru the efforts of streamers like Mad_ani and Mittens etc, and it seems like CCP has taken note of this.
Alot of potential customers will randomly click on frontpage streams of Twitch looking for entertainment. A % of these will
sign up for a trial and possibly become paying customers.
I get that part.

But making the CURRENT userbase suffer for a promotional tool (in part) isnt a way to go forward. Ive been a twitch viewer long time before CCP took notice of it, and there is absolutly nothing on the launcher that I even have the slightest intrest of.

I know you have said repeatedly you will remove the EXEFILE gamestart feature, but only when customers are satisfied with the new launcher.
Based on what I see from the launcher functionality, I have a hard time seeing you will ever reach that level.
I hope Im wrong in that assumption.

Im betting at one point when forum has quieted down somewhat you take that as a "everything is ok" sign and just goes
ahead with the final step (no more exefile start).

With the inevitable threadnaughts.

To all the people who say they're going to unsubscribe over added effort to log in or similar issues (not talking to the people who can't get into the game at all):

Do you seriously believe that this threat actually means anything in this context? Do you not realize that the more you use it over such trivial matters (especially when there are easy workarounds) the more it weakens your position in the future?

Sometimes I wonder how many people who threaten to unsubscribe actually end up doing it.

And who do you come running to whenever your account gets accessed by someone without your knowledge or consent?
That's right, CCP.

I can't make that statement, because it wouldn't be true. At some undetermined point in the future it will be removed. I can however restate what I've already posted and say that it won't go away until the functionality you're making use of and desire is available in the EVE Launcher.

And who do you come running to whenever your account gets accessed by someone without your knowledge or consent?
That's right, CCP.
Statements like "let me worry about my own security" aren't enough to simply remove liability, nor are they or any disclaimers or agreements going to stop people from petitioning if their accounts are or are suspected to be compromised.

oh and the offline installer does not work at this moment. Not sure why but i'm in limbo till thay fix there install server and file structure because i should have problems downloads of any files needed for EVE

After Incarna, I shut down three of my 5 accounts. I didn't totally unsubscribe, but I never threatened to, either.

Here is an idea for alleviating the launcher's python memory bloat issue. How about adding into the launcher the ability to enter specific client path and startup information for each account? This way you can launch multiple clients from different paths from the same launcher and would be a very simple thing to do. It could easily be coded in an afternoon (if that).

How about cutting out all the bling? It's a launcher for chrisake. It's a launcher after all. It should launch, ONLY.

Also; I think its reasonably safe to assume a fair % of the customers do not read EVE-O forum regularly, nor aware of channels like Twitch; so reaching them thru a launcher that you are FORCED to look at each time you want to log
into the game is a reasonably good idea on paper, IF it had been implimented well. Which it so far hasnt.

I find those launcher ads unattractive and hardly noticeable in comparison to old login screen one-time advertisements.
OFC only CCP have click metrics and they may show other picture, but I still think that launcher ads will have less informative value than old splashes.

Also; I think its reasonably safe to assume a fair % of the customers do not read EVE-O forum regularly