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CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 2689	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:33:00 - [271] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: When i quickly click between locket targets sometimes this radial menu popups, and often im choosing some unwanted action. All of this in less than half second. Can someone fix/rethink this radial menu? Try increasing the delay (in the ESC menu) CCP karkur \| User Interface Programmer \| Team Kurosomething \|-á@CCP_karkur

Kyalla Ahashion Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:28:00 - [272] - Quote CCP karkur wrote: Hi all, I hope we are all liking Odyssey and all it brings, and of course that we are all using the new Radial Menu I wanted to check in with you guys, and see if how it was treating you and if you have any comments on the actions we have in it. Have you run into any objects in space that have no primary action but you wish they did? Are there objects that you wished had a different primary action? Do you feel any objects are missing very commonly used actions (either as primary action, or in second layer). We have put a lot of thought into the Radial Menu actions and are fairly happy with it as it is today. We do recognized that we might have missed some actions and would like to hear your thoughts, and then evaluate if we should make some minor changes Edit: this is not thread about you wanting to disable it, it's already possible to increase the delay and bind it to a different key so it really shouldn't get in your way if you don't want it Right click (rebindable) to cancel. Not quite intuitive, but at least it's readily available from the mouse. Friction on the items that pop out to another submenu on the radial so that it takes more deliberate intent to pop these out. Key bindings for the radial menu (useful for those with fancy multibutton mice) Option to swap between click and hold and click once and then click a button on the menu (so that accidental long clicks don't accidentally result in "clicks" on unintended actions., particularly that evil screen filling "show info")
Darirol Origin. Black Legion. 8	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:51:00 - [273] - Quote you can drag and drop systems/destination station from autopilot list to chat. since radial menu works on the autopilot list too that drag and drop doesnt work anymore while in space. while docked i can still drag and drop. if i try this in space, the radial menu pops up and i cant drag anything.
Garm Zandor State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.11.09 20:41:00 - [274] - Quote Please, implement option to disable radial menu...
Alvatore DiMarco Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts 974	Posted - 2013.11.09 21:19:00 - [275] - Quote Garm Zandor wrote: Please, implement option to disable radial menu... Move it to a button you never ever use and set the delay to max. Bam, good as disabled.
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 62	Posted - 2013.11.09 22:16:00 - [276] - Quote Right now I'm loving the "beep-beep-beep" when selecting Show Info through the radial menu =3 I find it quite nice and useful, although I'll have to try all its functions...
Colman Dietmar Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 17	Posted - 2013.11.20 08:17:00 - [277] - Quote Being able to use it on characters in various lists (fleet, chat, etc) would be nice. Invite to fleet/convo, give money, kick from fleet, revoke/set booster, etc. Also, being able to warp fleet/wing/squad using it would also be very nice. And using it on items in hangar: sell, fit to active ship, info, repackage, reprocess...
Vesan Terakol Sad Face Enterprises 23	Posted - 2013.11.23 21:40:00 - [278] - Quote Can we get it to work on the bookmarks in the people in places list? would be really nice, since getting bookmarks in overview is such a technical issue.

CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 2811	Posted - 2013.11.23 21:42:00 - [279] - Quote Vesan Terakol wrote: Can we get it to work on the bookmarks in the people in places list? would be really nice, since getting bookmarks in overview is such a technical issue. It should already work on them actually CCP karkur \| User Interface Programmer \| Team Kurosomething \|-á@CCP_karkur

Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects 665	Posted - 2013.11.23 21:51:00 - [280] - Quote CCP karkur wrote: Vesan Terakol wrote: Can we get it to work on the bookmarks in the people in places list? would be really nice, since getting bookmarks in overview is such a technical issue. It should actually already work on them... if it doesn't, I must have some fixing to do Just checked the radial menu appeared with warp to enabled so it seems to work.

Mercer Nen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.11.25 01:13:00 - [281] - Quote How bout radial menu in the assets window? Shame to have to right click on a station where I have assets to select it as a destination.
Kenshi Hanshin Karl XII's Dragoner Apocalypse Now. 113	Posted - 2013.11.27 02:37:00 - [282] - Quote Thank you very much for the radial menus so far! I would really like to see the concept expanded as it is a lot easier for me to use than drop-down menus. Especially at speed and reliably while in a stressful and intense situations such as PvP.
helana Tsero Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.12.03 23:29:00 - [283] - Quote I like the radial menu. Id like to see the concept expanded so we can hide/make transparent more elements of the ui and only use the radial menu and the overview. (and scanner / chat windows as appropriate) Eve looks so awesome without all the excel spreadsheets and ancient ship control / shield / armor / module display. When I want to I pull up the needed UI elements or when something happens eg i take damage or activate a module then parts of the ship control ui area becomes untransperant. Hovering over a transparent UI area would also causse it to become visible. Give me the ability to hide the anoying targeting cross lines and other targeting stuff. I want to see the ships not red crosses. In other news / ui request I set all my ui that I can to be transperant. Could we have an option to make the background of a window black on the ui elements top bar. just so if i cant see something i can make it black and super visible for a second "... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where is eve placed... not in cave..."-á\| zoonr-Korsairs \|-á QFT !
helana Tsero Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.12.03 23:48:00 - [284] - Quote Another Radial menu request - Action mapping' Let me use the Radial menu on my ship when I am cloaked ! I live in a WH so Im cloaked 90% of the time ! "... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where is eve placed... not in cave..."-á\| zoonr-Korsairs \|-á QFT !
Yonis Kador KADORCORP 361	Posted - 2013.12.12 05:40:00 - [285] - Quote Now that you guys actually have me reading F&I, I'd like to comment here that as a mouse-only-whenever-possible-because-I-need-a-beer-hand-free player, I'm a fan of the radial menu. It has become primary in almost everything I do on a day to day basis. The only place I'm wishing it existed and it currently doesn't is in the survey scanner results window. It's a simple enough task to right click there and lock instead but once you've become accustomed to using the radial menu, the expected behavior is to have a radial option there also. And I've seen several comments regarding players disliking the radial menu because it "gets in the way when panning the camera" and/or issues when undocking from a station (which both may be referring to the same phenomenon.) I have to concur. Far too many times, I've re-docked or would have redocked if there weren't a timer preventing me from doing so because the radial pops up when exiting certain stations. The camera is so zoomed in upon undocking that you must pan since all available screen is usually station. Unfortunately, it isnt an issue with every station which is why not everyone is experiencing this. But some, like ministry of war, for example, where you usually exit from the top gives a downward camera view, and the necessary response is to pan upward - which is right where the dock icon is on the radial menu. It's not that big of a deal, and since it works well in every other aspect, I wouldn't want to adjust the delay as I only undock a few times a day as opposed to the number of times it works well in space. But I guess it's worth mentioning since it has happened to me too. YK "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines."
S4nn4 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:52:00 - [286] - Quote -I am not too fond of having orbit and keep at range next to the second layer button. When I am in a rush it's annoying to get into the sub menu by mistake. -I would also prefer to have all the "i'm in a hurry" selections on the lower half as I find these quicker to reach. Using a compass as comparison, something like (but it's not ideal, haven't really thought it through): W: lock/unlock SW: warp S: align SE: orbit E: keep at range and N being the submenu. lock and warp are nice beside eachother because it makes it harder to unlock something by mistake, and if it's close enough to lock it can't be warped to (except in rare cases) Actually, it's probably best to be able to configure their locations, as someone already said. -Having the info button on the main layer doesn't feel quite right either. When I use the radial menu I am more interested in issuing commands fast, it's an alternative to hotkeys. I definately don't have time to read something when I use it, nor do I want a new window to pop up by mistake. -Also, colors on some of the buttons could help too. I recognize colors faster than I recoginze pictures. Not bright colors however, just faint shades of them. And only on those commands that are used in stressful situations. Like green-ish for warp, blue-ish for align, yellow-ish for keep at range, orange-ish for orbit and red-ish for lock. Some color blind people might have different ideas about that though.
Momiji Sakora Omni Galactic 9	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:30:00 - [287] - Quote I'm loving the radial menus. That said, some of the actions, the one that catches me offguard atm, is that some functions like "Scoop to cargobay / dronebay" sometimes appear at different positions on the radial menu (sometimes behind the additional options + button). It'd be great if they were made more conformed, with similar commands appearing in the same places on different menus. (Target almost always appear at the bottom of the radial circle for example).
Xe'Cara'eos A Big Enough Lever 53	Posted - 2013.12.31 12:14:00 - [288] - Quote Hey guys - could you please change radial menu's so that I don't get a radial menu every time I click on the scanner button? Most of the time - the one I want is the one I just closed down, which is exactly what you get if you use keyboard shortcuts. When it's not - that's when I'd want radial menu, on my 3rd or 4th mouse button - just where it is for the rest of them, thanks muchly. This possible? Xe
Coyote Laughing 15	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:51:00 - [289] - Quote The radial menu is simply awful, it can pop up during lag and you can wind up orbiting an object 20km away before control is returned. The amount of time you wait while it opens, before allowing you to select an option is simply too long. I have lagged out several times attempting to warp in Jita simply because the pop up menu does not respond. l8r \o/
Memory Shaper Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.01.08 12:09:00 - [290] - Quote I don't know if this has been addressed but is there a way to change the delay time between the left-mouse-click and the appearing of the menu? I occasionally want to drag stuff like drones in space back to bay or the current system to chat and it opens the menu too quickly.

Theon Severasse Sniggwaffe WAFFLES. 55	Posted - 2014.01.08 12:33:00 - [291] - Quote Memory Shaper wrote: I don't know if this has been addressed but is there a way to change the delay time between the left-mouse-click and the appearing of the menu? I occasionally want to drag stuff like drones in space back to bay or the current system to chat and it opens the menu too quickly. It's in the options somewhere IIRC, but don't ask me to say exactly where haha

CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 2991	Posted - 2014.01.08 13:13:00 - [292] - Quote Theon Severasse wrote: Memory Shaper wrote: I don't know if this has been addressed but is there a way to change the delay time between the left-mouse-click and the appearing of the menu? I occasionally want to drag stuff like drones in space back to bay or the current system to chat and it opens the menu too quickly. It's in the options somewhere IIRC, but don't ask me to say exactly where haha It's in the ESC menu, under General, bottom of the center column there CCP karkur \| User Interface Programmer \| Team Pirate Unicorns \|-á@CCP karkur

Memory Shaper Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.01.08 17:35:00 - [293] - Quote CCP karkur wrote: Theon Severasse wrote: Memory Shaper wrote: I don't know if this has been addressed but is there a way to change the delay time between the left-mouse-click and the appearing of the menu? I occasionally want to drag stuff like drones in space back to bay or the current system to chat and it opens the menu too quickly. It's in the options somewhere IIRC, but don't ask me to say exactly where haha It's in the ESC menu, under General, bottom of the center column there THANKS!!
FoxFire Ayderan 134	Posted - 2014.01.14 02:34:00 - [294] - Quote Oh hey, I just noticed this thread. And I just posted two new threads on Radial menu ideas I had. It's quite possible they've already been touched on here, but I don't want to read through 15 pages! Wow. So I read the 1st and last page. I will link the threads I started for these brief ideas. Activate modules on targets from Radial Menu: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=312476&find=unread Adjust Approach Speed from Radial Menu: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=312485&find=unread
Ziranda Hakuli Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2014.01.17 06:15:00 - [295] - Quote the action mapping is pretty cool but what i would like is way to turn it on or off it gets rather annoying in pvp when the action mapping pops up when ypou already have hot keys set up to do what ya need. i do not need a secondary system. its annoying. please come up with something to turn it off. thank you
ArmEagle Kusoni Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters 32	Posted - 2014.01.23 22:59:00 - [296] - Quote Too many pages to read now. But when I'm cloaked the radial menu won't show up when trying to activate it on my ship. Is there another place (HUD, other UI) where the ship radial menu will open? To be honest I hardly ever use the radial menu. Only do for scanner, about half the time. Other half I use Alt-D.
Arden Bastilla Defiance LLC 1	Posted - 2014.01.29 03:15:00 - [297] - Quote Bloodpetal wrote: I know this may be far fetched, but a Fleet Command section with "Warp Fleet" and similar would be great. I don't know where you'd squeeze it.... I would say squeeze it in on the fleet window. When you activate the radial menu from the fleet menu you get all the fleet options. You could expand that to useful options from the Watchlist.
Alex Tutuola Specter Syndicate Tactical Narcotics Team 14	Posted - 2014.02.06 19:00:00 - [298] - Quote I'm aware I'm a little late to the party, but I just wanted to say that I love the radial menu. If you know what you're doing with it, it becomes VERY convenient for flying frigate and cruiser size vessels. Much quicker than right click menu, and more exact. Thank you.
Hiljah Complex Systems 5	Posted - 2014.02.11 20:32:00 - [299] - Quote Can I edit the radial menu? If not, are there plans for this to happen? Or is CCP opposed to this? I'm trying to decide if it is worth learning. If it is just another menu with too many options I don't want it.
Hiljah Complex Systems 5	Posted - 2014.02.11 21:45:00 - [300] - Quote Hiljah wrote: Can I edit the radial menu? If not, are there plans for this to happen? Or is CCP opposed to this? I'm trying to decide if it is worth learning. If it is just another menu with too many options I don't want it. I already use ctrl-click to target and I don't want that as a primary action (assuming it is), shouldn't I be able to change this or even remove it? Other people may only want target on the menu, shouldn't they be able to? Why would you try to decide what should be primary or even on the menu, no one is going to agree.



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