Except that generally "in a huge blob and all in one place" is exactly where you want people. Dropping everyone all over the system gives an even remotely prepared enemy time to scan down half your capital ships, tackle them, and pop them.

Dreadnaughts take about 30 seconds to align and warp, if you have probes out when the fleet hits the system you can have people on-grid with these ships before they can align out without even taking into account the time for orders to go out for them to assemble somewhere. It wouldn't even be that hard, just have probing ships outside a staging POS in command of pinning squads, they start furiously scanning as soon as the Cyno drops and with the size of a Dread or Carrier they won't even need to be very tight in their probe formations in order to get a lock. Immediately warp the squad to the signal, tackle, and drop a kill wing on it (which is easy because it's capped out from the jump and trying to regen with cap-boosters). Now the attacker's have lost half their capitals before the fight's even really started.

I was so excited to fly my rail thorax again. Then i tried to kill a cal navy cruiser orbiting (at optimal) with mwd off and it took about a full minute. Wheres that 550 DPS I was promised. Was using 200mm btw. yeah take back that damage and return the tracking.

So true. How silly of me not to be continuously chasing or running away from my target like a 5 year old. ;) Yeah I know it's possible to use but honestly CCP you are killing solo kite ships. I mean this fit is DC tanked because that's all it can fit. What do you guys want us to do. Oh yeah fit scram web, etc. get armor logi check.

I'll probably do the same. :)

It's what all the cool kids are fielding now. :D

With the best will in the world, scanning a dread, getting into warp and landing in sufficiently short time to get a target lock takes very close to, or more than, 30 seconds. Most of your warp time is acceleration and deceleration. Not actual 6AU/second warping.

Even if a defending fleet had enough scrambling probe ships to lock down all the incoming dreads, what then?

It only takes a subcap or two to warp to each stricken dread to clean off the offending player.

OK, so the battlefield might suddenly shift to somewhere new if the defender decides to blob one dread.

Cool! A new dynamic and crazy fleet battle ensues, with neither side having an the unfair advantage of sitting on grid with logistics, sensor boosters and drone assist primed and ready to go.

This is better.

I like how you mentioned only Gallente hybrid cruisers in that post.

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I was so excited to fly my rail thorax again. Then i tried to kill a cal navy cruiser orbiting (at optimal) with mwd off and it took about a full minute. Wheres that 550 DPS I was promised. Was using 200mm btw. yeah take back that damage and return the tracking.

CCP rise, was the tracking of the artillery guns overpowered in comparison to the other weapons, pre-patch?

The 15% to ROF was pretty pointless imo. It only reduces the cycle time by 1 second and i think it would have been better if you increased the damage multiplier by 5% to play to the strength of artillery weapons.

Please reconsider this action.

You are probably right but i still think the rof buff wasn't worth it and they should have just kept the weapon the same. I view the change as a nerf more than anything.

Do you view pre-patch artillery as OP in comparison to post-patch rails?

So, let me get this straight: You view an 11.1% DPS increase in return for a small tracking loss a nerf on a sniping weapon system?

Im just wondering is it feasible that Legion with t2 medium beam lasers is capable to do more dmg than t2 dps cruise missiles on navy raven or raven. Beam is kinda comparable to cruises as both seems to be originating as long range weapons. To beat medium beam laser on legion requires you to have T2 dps torpedoes that i would somewhat compare to pulse laser weaponry as both designated originally as short range weaponry.

But where is the problem here? Just make them ALL drop to one place, but this place should be chosen randomly (or, even better, there should be some "warp's destination coordinates' skew" and whole blob will be dropped in some proximity to the cynofield, at a random spot in an area of, say, 5 au around the cynofield.)

Bingo, you go it kid!

Who gives a damn about DPS when the alpha strike is the most important factor? Personally, i would prefer to apply that damage better (+5% tracking) over being able to shoot 1 second earlier.

no i compared right those things.. cruise missiles does less dps than medium beam laser with legion.

Well if you want some numbers.. my friend geared up legion and got with her skills 1050 something dps out of her legion. i made up navy raven geared with full set of cruise missiles and the added low slots with ballistic control systems. i used evehq to run what it is with max skills for the cruise missiles... got about 907 dps

the legion was incursion used legion.. so relies on logis to do teh job. and aint it bit overpower anyways if 6 medium beams can compete with 8 cruise missiles?