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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 09:55:00 -
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hehe no it wouldn't :)
try getting a bestower trough that blockade :)
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.15 09:56:00 -
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i use bookmark and jump in 1 sec :)
and i see pirates to get ****ed off :)
Not really ****ed off, I'm quite used to people basically bypassing every blockade now. It's way more common for people to bookmark past you than it is to actually kill someone these days.
CCP has ruined pirating, no wonder people are going to 1.0 to kill AFKers.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.15 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ruulex DeMors on 15/08/2003 09:59:55
Now Jim, I don't see running blockades near as easy now with the MWD's working as they do now. Unless what...1 AB and 2 MWD's *hopefully* get you through? I don't run camped gates, I bust the little blockade. So you'll have to clue me in, since I have so little experience at running through blockades.
Edit: 4 posts while I write one...lively thread  . Forgot about the bookmarks, but most travelers that don't trade (like myself) don't have a bookmark to every gate in EVE. Though it would be smart to.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.15 09:59:00 -
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There has never been an "Invulnerability Timer" on jumping into a system.
Only when warping, undocking or logging in.
Has anyone tested this out? IMO anytime you PC has to load into a sector there should be a Invulerability. Especially since they were supposed to make jump entry points static with this patch.
I can confirm that there isn't an invulnerability timer on jumps. There certainly wasn't one before this patch either. I got hit instantly by a PC pirate at the end of a sequence of jumps last week (just bad luck he was there and that it was the last jump - so autopilot turned off).
I think the reason for this is that your ship isn't supposed to appear in the new system until you've actually loaded the system data (or whatever). In the main I think this actually works, but there's always instances where things go amiss 
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2003.08.15 10:21:00 -
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Running blockades seemed risky even before the patch even with an mwd. :)
A week back I knew the gate was blocked and since I had a bestower I only had one mwd. SO just before exiting warp I activated it only to be thrown back a LONGT way by lag. I didn't get my cap back though so when I finally exited warp for good my cap was gone and I was 31 km from the gate doing 150m/s 
Luckilly the guys blocking the gate were looking for someone and not pirating.
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.08.15 10:24:00 -
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I can't believe what Im reading.
You can't face dominixes and that special concord battleship ? Are they using better equipment instead of 1 crappy laser or rail ?
Now you know exactly how a gate runner feels when he warps in, and there are 2 scorpions and countless dmg battleships waiting for you at a gate, and you don't have any means of escaping.
btw, are you -5.0 - ? Then you shouldn't fly in sec space.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.08.15 10:27:00 -
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Not really ****ed off, I'm quite used to people basically bypassing every blockade now.
IMO, that's because you're always blockading the same system. If you guys moved around a bit, some hapless traders would get a *really* nasty awakening.
Everyone and his mother has a bookmark for FD-MLJ and PF-346 by now. Those who don't should rightfully avoid the place if they see pilots hanging around on the map screen. And the rest are idiots.
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Meau
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Posted - 2003.08.15 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Meau on 15/08/2003 10:53:30
Someone mentioned Ultima Online and the insta-spawn insta-kill guards.
They were in NO way a failure, like he claimed. They were meant that way and good that way, and mind you, i not only benefited from them ;).
In Old pre carebear-land UO, as a PK, you knew you werent allowed to enter ANY town. Period. There was no whining back then, it just was a fact, and you lived with it.
It created a clear distinction between "law-abiding" chars and so called murderers, one that should be in place to make it interesting.
Comeone, Tank wanted to grab some ammo? Really? You really make me laugh. You can always pay someone to grab some. And if youre such a sociopath that you have noone you could ask at all, manufacture it. If you wanted to do something else there, which is closer to the truth, i guess (Tank CEO¦s bs being shot by concord while doing some pathethic task, nice fitting headline), then tell us.
Highways are imho a bad concept implemented for the carebears. Not allowing pirates on them is just logical. Maybe they shouldnt be there, but letting -10 players fly through yulai is just ridiculous.
Any player with negative sec can do things that law-abiding players cant. Why in hell should he then be allowed to do all that the law-abiding ones are allowed to, also? Most? of course. But not all.
(Slips into her flameproof suit)
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GALAGA
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Posted - 2003.08.15 10:57:00 -
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Lol Tanky, as I was exiting the station, you were just docking, said hello to you, then told you I was jumping.
Guess you shouldn't have followed me to Yulai.
Last night as I was there,Molly self destructed near the Amarr gate, so I guess that Concord wanted to make sure that you didn't do the same thing, seeing how they had just finished scraping parts of her off of the gate and gotten it back in shape.
Much less messy to destroy you next to a planet.
Every pirate should just check local when they travel and make sure that Nails and Galaga aren't there, as we are good friends with Concord and they come down extra heavy when we are around. :P
Take an alternate route so you will be safer hehe.
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Posted - 2003.08.15 11:04:00 -
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Not really ****ed off, I'm quite used to people basically bypassing every blockade now.
IMO, that's because you're always blockading the same system. If you guys moved around a bit, some hapless traders would get a *really* nasty awakening.
Everyone and his mother has a bookmark for FD-MLJ and PF-346 by now. Those who don't should rightfully avoid the place if they see pilots hanging around on the map screen. And the rest are idiots.
I'm aware. Unforuntaly hanging out in a system where no one is gonna pass for hours vs a system where 90% of the people have a bookmark but you can still nail 10% of them is a trade off.
Most systems get no traffic, at all.
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 11:09:00 -
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just check your map for recent jumps and go there :)
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.15 11:12:00 -
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just check your map for recent jumps and go there :)
I'm aware how to use the map thanks. Choke points are where it's at though. If you go elsewhere you are pretty much wasting your time.
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Kimi
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Posted - 2003.08.15 11:25:00 -
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I find it really hard to get up much sympathy. Tank Exploited that -10 bug for days, now that the tables are turned he has become the classic whiner.
Tank, now you know how all those newbies in Yulai felt when you nuked them.
I like it.
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OverKill
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Posted - 2003.08.15 11:42:00 -
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I tend to agree with Kimi here.
Pirates went around doing what they felt like doing and claimed (rightly so) that it was part of the game.
Now there are NEW things which are part of the game, CONCORD having fast tracking and powerful weapons being part of it.
To be honest, I don't know if I believe TANK's claim about "They locked me right away". He is afterall a pirate and do they not lie, cheat, kill and steal as part of their everyday life?
Anyways, all that aside, lets consider another option...
The backstory in EVE has been altered slightly: CONCORD is now WATCHING for pirates and blockading Empire space.
That would explain why you can no longer travel safely there.
Either that or perhaps someone at CCP finally decided to give in to the dark side and that CONCORD ship was actually a dev cackling with laugher as he swatted you aside.
Regards,
Michael "OverKill" Carter
Chief Executive Officer
Hadean Drive Yards
[email protected] - http://www.hadean.org
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Jun'ko Zane
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Posted - 2003.08.15 11:46:00 -
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Anyone else lose their battleship, cruiser to uber concord?
I just lost mine, I traveled to Amarr because I needed ammo, I got their safely but on the way back i jumped to to Yulia, 1 millisecond after i got outa "Entering Space" I was being attacked by concord, isnt their a 5 second invulnerabilty time that you get cause i sure as hell didnt get it. Welp looks like ccp is going to be replacing me ship AGAIN. I mean the cops got on to me faster then auto-pilot could warp me, thats just heh, way to go ccp!
we love concord
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.08.15 11:46:00 -
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LMAO - Just listen to all the bleeding hearts ..........
0% Sympathy - you chose a life of crime you stay outta 1.0
You chose a life of crime - you need a criminal supplier for goods - such as ammo (should be fun to watch the honour amongst thieves)
NPC Pirates in belts lock on immediately sometimes and you just got hit by the flying squad as you appeared next to them.
And from an RP point of view - dont ya think the cops in the next system would have told their buddies you were about to arrive in theirs?
There aint no defence - stay away from 1.0 like newbies have to saty away from 0.0
Stop *****1n!!!
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VeRbLe
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Posted - 2003.08.15 11:53:00 -
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i think we should be able to travel through but not stay.. I know that Katchin from sinister has lost 2 scorpions to concord so far :\ 1 from a CTD and 1 from his screen not loading fast enough.
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wordy
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:02:00 -
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Tank CEO you were moaning that you didn't stand a chance when attacked by Concord. I bet a new player in an imperaitor who was gunned down by you in 1.0 sec space didn't stand a chance either. When they complain they get laughed at.
You were moaning that Concord were using an glitch in the code so you got killed almost instantly, yet you yourself have taken advantage of the -10 sec level glitch, to randomly murder new players for over a week. If CCP won't refund players ships in 1.0 sec space, even tho they are aware of the glitch. Why should they refund yours because of another glitch?
The pirates and random murders who are moaning that is hard to enter empire space have only them selves to blame. By Blaming the game these people are trying to avoid taking the consquences for their actions.
I bet a player who didn't know anything about blockades wasn't let off when bumbling into a pirate blockade. So why should known murders be let though high sec empire space. If lawful players have to find another route around a pirate/random murder blockade, why should pirates and random murders be allowed through the Concord blockade in Empire space?
If it takes pirates/random murders ages to get anywhere to buy supplies then unlucky. Find away to overcome this justified handicap, Just like lawful players had to find away to get around pirates/random murders
"Hey, I am cool. My mum said so!" - Milhouse Van Houten
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 15/08/2003 12:08:52
"Tank CEO you were moaning that you didn't stand a chance when attacked by Concord. I bet a new player in an imperaitor who was gunned down by you in 1.0 sec space didn't stand a chance either. When they complain they get laughed at."
... This is a somewhat fair point, but do we really want the Concord to act just like Tank CEO now?..
Keep in mind it's a dumb AI, i.e. it won't limit such behavior to just the pirates... the 'new player in an imperaitor' will get torn apart just as swiftly if Mr.Concord Sergeant decided they crossed the road in wrong spot.
edit: to clarify, i don't mind the Concord beefed up, overall this is a good change. Would like them to use some actual setups with the usual limitations rather than cheats, though...
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BrazHos
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: BrazHos on 15/08/2003 12:12:20
Haha.. a pirate whining.. gotta love it!
Im a new player, but after reading a few posts by 'Tank' and a few others, I just have to say Grats CCP!
Pirates should not be allowed to enter Empire Space at all without being pounced on immediately by OPP! (Overwhelming Police Power)
If thats how it is now, I applaud it.
As I understand many places to 0.0 space are camped by pirates/rouges waiting for people to popin so they can extort their living (which is fine, its part of game} they chose to RP that type.. so learn to live with it or not.
Ive read enough and have seen enough of his kind to know its really just karma unfolding. "What comes around.." :)
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:19:00 -
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Me and a friend (in a Merlin, no less) jumped through New Caldari, me having a slight headstart. When I entered New Caldari I got the warning, and as I warped to the gate I saw CONCORD's warp trails behind me... then my friend entered New Caldari aswell, and now the cops were waiting for him. It hadn't even finished loading before he was dead.
I heard rumours that CONCORD was doing 400 damage a hit, any truth to that?
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |
Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:23:00 -
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I hate RATS, however concord should give a warning.
On the other hand, if a terrorist landed on a US beach fully armed and there happened to be SEALs there I am sure they would shoot first. (since detainment in this game is not an option)
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Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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wordy
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:27:00 -
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... This is a somewhat fair point, but do we really want the Concord to act just like Tank CEO now?..
No that would be a bad thing, but the point I was trying to make with my first statement is.... he doesn't care about the ppl he ganks, so why should we care when he gets ganked?
"Hey, I am cool. My mum said so!" - Milhouse Van Houten
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Rock Dollar
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:29:00 -
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PF-346 and FD-MLJ are surely not the only viable chokepoints in the game. Most people realise now not to go through those systems if they are moving any items of value.
Live a little (or die a lot) - why don't you go and bug the Stain region for a bit instead.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 15/08/2003 12:38:23
I'm making a list,
I'm checking it twice...
I'm gonna find out,
who's whiny or nice...
whiny people take the pod sub-express home.
nice people will be mercifully transported back to their clone station instantly(which should have a half decent ship at it)*
A lot of people are making overly broad generalisations. Not all pirates operate like Tank. In fact most don't.
I'm glad the MWD fix happened, because this will be a very poddy weekend, I feel.
* this rule will exclude minmatars. I have been offered good money for their biomass. 
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 15/08/2003 12:37:08
Also, you'll ****never**** keep me out of empire space. Never. I have too many quality connections. Buahahahahhahaaaa
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:40:00 -
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* this rule will exclude minmatars. I have been offered good money for their biomass.
You shame your race.
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Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Laer
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:43:00 -
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The new CONCORD is way too powerful. I mean come on, you guys can sit there and complain about pirates killing you during loading times, but you don't see pirates camping the entry points to systems where you are completely vulnerable. It's not like they can't either cause Jim's done it to me before, but I damn well deserved it and still got away. So you should feel privilaged they allow you to think and prepare and run the blockade. CONCORD on the other hand didn't deal with invulnerability and gave them no chance whatsoever to react. That's complete crap. If a fellon walks into a police station he would still have a chance to run back out.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:54:00 -
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we love concord
Nice sig. Really accents the look of complete terror and utter cowardice.
You love Concord, eh? On 2 separate occasions I've lost 2 Cruisers to Concord. Both over bugs. The last one for responding to an attack after the other person fired on me first.
Already seen posts from people that were instaganked over smartbomb or missile. But I'm sure you don't care so long as you can feel completely safe in you fat trash hauler or roid eater. Nah, the people that have accidents or fall prey to just plain ole bugs are acceptable losses to people like you.
Cause you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself. I can't wait till either you have a meeting with Concord (unlikely as I'm willling to bet you'd need to retake the tutorial to figure out how to use a gun) or I have a meeting with Concord again. Cause when that happens, I'm going to make it a goal in my Eve life to get my ship's cost back through pure the pure satisfaction of vengance on Concord lovers like you.
At the cost of a breacher, 3 malkuth assaults, 3 cruise missiles and a little vig to my agents for each one it's a fair deal.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
csebal
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Posted - 2003.08.15 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: csebal on 15/08/2003 12:58:12
Well, if someone remembers the name Elite, it was the groundbreaking space sim, that started it all ;)
one day, looking for jobs on the bulletin board, i saw a rather tempting offer of 20.000 credits for killing some Mr. Jameson (note, that in Elite, you were always called Jameson, no way to change that)
When i contacted them, the following message came:
"Thank you, Mr Jameson for saving us the time and trouble of finding you. - Game Over"
Don't pirates feel rather stupid when going to the hq system of the intergalactic police force? I would do for sure.
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This post is nothing more than my personal opinion. It does not represent the official standpoint of Fountain Alliance, or the HUN Corporation in any way.
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