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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.16 14:21:00 -
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i don't even want to try and understand it, it's so silly (1337 that is).
and jash you keep replying all the time, 3 last posts you've had now :)
Can't find a stronger argument than that, Photon?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.16 14:36:00 -
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do you want me to make one?
i just tought this thread was so long i didn't want to make further discussion, but if you really want me to I'm sure i can cook up something
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.16 14:41:00 -
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do you want me to make one?
i just tought this thread was so long i didn't want to make further discussion, but if you really want me to I'm sure i can cook up something
Yes, I want you to make one. Eve is supposed to be a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.
The "Massively Multiplayer" part means nobody ingame short of a GM deserves to run around with God Mode on. I've got no problems admitting that.
But you seem to have a problem admitting that the "Game" part means nobody deserves to have impossible to defeat/escape game mechanics shoved on them for the juvenile satisfaction of a bunch of people whose strongest argument is purile jeering.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.16 14:45:00 -
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think I've said this what 3 times now, I AGREE to the fact that concord got uber good, but I also think that there is no way -5 to -10 pirates can enter space like 1.0....
That they get killed at once i do not support, but the fact that they're not let in that I do support...
Would be better to target jam and webify them, so the only way out would be to warp away from the stargate leading to that 1.0 system...
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My passion is to fly, nothing beats it, nothing can compare to it. Free as a bird. Bird of prey. |
Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2003.08.16 14:53:00 -
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*had to buy ammo*..... Yeah right...I dont believe that for one second. The courier thingy Bad H mentioned most likely is beeing used all the time... He was there for another reason all together..
Concord just got a new fan !
Die hard!
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colla tidet
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:00:00 -
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Once AGAIN i AM amazed at the human CAPACITY for understanding (photon, alexi te'len)... check the last sentence in Joshua Calvert's post, and then check my post again. Then notice the " " around the leet speek. I was not trying to get a point accross i was translating to a language the pirate of this post might understand. Before using matches u should understand the nature of flame. 
Another thing, about the remark of me being a fool, I believe u should be AWARE that I am not.
"Let us have faith that right makes right, and in that faith let us to the end dare to do our duty as we understand it."
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CreepyLonghair
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:01:00 -
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Simple fact is Tank you've probably cost CCP a considerable amount of cash by your previous immature behaviour in 1.0 space.
God knows how many of the players that thought they were safe in 1.0 have cancelled accounts after your short lived killing spree there., did you seriously think CCP would be fair to you and your type after the loss you've caused them?
It's simple business practice to eliminate costs, be grateful they didn't just ban your spotty little ass.
Oh and by the way the loss of your BS is defintely one of the funniest things I've heard in game all week....surpassed only by your cry baby attitude after the fact
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RazorDreamz
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:01:00 -
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I just lost my ship as well to CCP's inability to properly test and think though a patch. Way to go CCP!! 
If there was a way out of the situation I would not be very upset, but when I get trapped with 0.9 and 0.8 systems all around me it is not fair. I got my ship blasted the instant I entered the 0.9 system. Before my screen loaded they had already locked and started to fire. Again a great patch CPP, you keep getting better and better.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:02:00 -
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think I've said this what 3 times now, I AGREE to the fact that concord got uber good, but I also think that there is no way -5 to -10 pirates can enter space like 1.0....
That they get killed at once i do not support, but the fact that they're not let in that I do support...
Would be better to target jam and webify them, so the only way out would be to warp away from the stargate leading to that 1.0 system...
And that's the point and why I call this whole thing nothing more than immature vengence, along with the displays in this thread.
Concord already target jammed and webified prior to the patch. The ship destruction is just someone acting out. Worse, now they've made it so that nobody can make a simple mistake without losing a ship. If there were more high slot, non-turret modules I'd dump my heavy launchers while in Empire Space.
They're too dangerous for me.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:18:00 -
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think I've said this what 3 times now, I AGREE to the fact that concord got uber good, but I also think that there is no way -5 to -10 pirates can enter space like 1.0....
That they get killed at once i do not support, but the fact that they're not let in that I do support...
Would be better to target jam and webify them, so the only way out would be to warp away from the stargate leading to that 1.0 system...
And that's the point and why I call this whole thing nothing more than immature vengence, along with the displays in this thread.
Concord already target jammed and webified prior to the patch. The ship destruction is just someone acting out. Worse, now they've made it so that nobody can make a simple mistake without losing a ship. If there were more high slot, non-turret modules I'd dump my heavy launchers while in Empire Space.
They're too dangerous for me.
Let's try to think of another type of gun.
We have lasers, projectile, and hybrid.
What about Prototype Nokia Mobile Phone Tune - guaranteed annoyance with an extreme range.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:30:00 -
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"If there was a way out of the situation I would not be very upset, but when I get trapped with 0.9 and 0.8 systems all around me it is not fair. I got my ship blasted the instant I entered the 0.9 system. Before my screen loaded they had already locked and started to fire. Again a great patch CPP, you keep getting better and better"
Well, let me try to respond to this like the gate camping griefers respond to indy pilots and the like who lose thier ships to gate camping.
You deserve to die if you are too ignorant, if you don't know how to use the map, if you are using auto pilot...
You are mere sheep for concord if you are too stupid to know where you are going. You idiots are the ones who make this game fun for the uber concord pilots.
I could go on and on.
So how does it feel to not have a chance in hell to save your ship? I think NPC police should be pod killing your asses as well!
Pirates don't like a taste of thier own medicine huh? Gee, that's surprising!
All you whining pirates can go **** off!
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Wolf Leader on 16/08/2003 15:38:31
Um pirates who were in .8 and .9 space and relatively safe only to log on and die before they see the police shooting them is not the same as gate campers. U cannot use map cause you havent loaded yet U cannot use auto cause you havent loaded yet. You cannot run away cause you have not loaded yet... You cannot get info about cops frm others cause you havent loaded yet. Should i go on white dwarf or should i wait for you to extract your foot from your mouth. And people have 10 seconds to run away from gate campers then they can hide in the middle of nowhere. If someone did manage to load and get away from uber concord they would just follow them until the player gave up and died. ive run into blocks before and ive had time to get info on every single ship think if i wanna blast my way through and then warp out. So dont give me crap about u have no chance. In game time 10 seconds is an eternity.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:37:00 -
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"Um pirates who were in .8 and .9 space"
Too bad for them, they should not have been in .8 and .9 space with -10 sec ratings in the first place.
So no, I don't need to take my foot out of my mouth, I just need to place it on your throat.
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:40:00 -
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why should it matter what there sec rating is if you can go somewhere before patch u should be able to go somewhere after patch unless there is a warning. patch said concord would be upped in strength they did not say concord would be comeinvincible and annihilate u as soon as u logged on
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NeosX
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:44:00 -
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Tank CEO is just ignoring the facts and he thinks we're stupid enough to believe he was there just to pickup ammo...
If u ever bothered reading the description on Concord Ships it says that they were build on a join effort from all empires. that makes hem superior in any way to any ship that we player can pilot. especially your weak-ass scorpion. the scorp is only good for one thing that is EW support other than that it is a weak ship.
You surprised CONCORD can lock you under 5 seconds ? I'm not i can do the same in my apoc it's called a sensor booster LOL too bad we can't us hem atm coz they make us CTD 
Oh and i'm nor surprised either than Tank lost yet another ship it must only be like the 10th ship he lost since retail... what a true hero...
The point is pirate with -10 (or i think Tank was -9.8 last time i saw him in amarr which is basically the same thing) should never go to 1.0. I'm happy that you got owned by tryin to do so. Now you either learn from you mistakes and learn to live with your -9.8 status or you quit the game.. you can also try to get back to positive rating and make us believe you stopped pirating LOL but stop your pityfull whining. We blockade runners got hit in the face with this patch since MWD can't be used in warp anymore and you don't see me whine.
and before you even call me a carebear i don't mine ... i only do when i need a new ship coz mining make EVE's world spin... I enjoy killing NPCs, crushing pirate blockade (one of my favorite things to do),walking over RUS corp, and also i just found a new thing to do pod a couple of joves 
*X2K*Neos-X-
--Proud member of the Stain Alliance--
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.08.16 15:50:00 -
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"why should it matter what there sec rating is if you can go somewhere before patch u should be able to go somewhere after patch unless there is a warning. patch said concord would be upped in strength they did not say concord would be comeinvincible and annihilate u as soon as u logged on"
I'll reiterate, "they got what they deserved".
I remember hearing this a lot from the m0o gate campers when they thought blockading passari was adding game content. According to them, anyone who did not pay, or who they felt like killing got what they deserved for trying to play the game in empire space, 3 jumps from a starting system.
They got what they deserved, and I for one am very glad to see it.
Please PK'ers, please, more whining, I'm eating it up :)
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.16 16:00:00 -
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Im not whining kid im in .0 space as many of your infininoob buddies know they run from me enough. But thats not the point you just cant radically change game mechanics from complete and utter powerlessness by police to demi gods who smite all who look at them wrong. The best thing is the police are killing as many noobs as the pirates down there were. Noob dies at hand of pirate=Noob dies at hand of uber concord is there really a difference. Also how would ya RP this one concord replace by jove admirals all over the world increase empires tech base by 500%. This was just not a well planned move by CCP. I admit 1.0 and maybe even .9 should be off limits to pirates but to just say oh too bad you were here time to die. It just wasnt worked out.
Have fun posting to yourself with your angry answer now whitedwarf i wont be back to this topic
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Supe
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Posted - 2003.08.21 21:21:00 -
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How about instead of flaming you try and make a point. Sinister Corp plays both sides of the fence and we proboly lost another 5 or 6 members to this crappy patch cuz who wants to pay for game when a weeks worth of work goes down the ****ter in 2 minutes?
Whats at fault here is the simple fact that a .5 system is just as secure as a 1.0 system and there is no way to go around empire space for the most part.
Now there are many better ways to fix this #1. Decrease ship / module costs to 1/10th of what they are now. This will mean less work for everyone more pvp and more people enjoying the game the best part is way less *****ing about how you got killed by a *** bug before your screen even loaded.
#2. Reduce security Force strength and just have them send in Target Locking ships right away so the pirate has to warp away from 1.0 space.
Essentialy #1 is the only solution to the huge problem in this game i miss the risk involved with killing concord forces in 0.5 space pre patch cuz i was hoping it would increase my faction ratings with the Pirate Corps so i can some day get a agent again. I have been playing this game for 3 months now and have 5 agents.
Another rampent problem with this game is the simple fact that it is Impossible to get security rating back and the only way to get it back is to wait at a rate of .1 a day i think it is. Agents supposedly are a good way to raise it but if you can't get agents what are you suppsoed to do.
You see some people will say it's our fault for choosing a life of crime but we didn't choose a life of crime we choose a direction a tthe time that allowed us to enjoy the game since there was NO content at all.
9/10th's of the trade routes are filled at server up NPC pirate killing gets old very fast mining is just plain lame did that for amonth allmost and back then Agents had no content value.
Now some good things the devs could do was bring in racial wars as a way to bring the pk's back in into the fold and the way of content. Make the criminal cartels be happy when you kill police there is no reason for them not to be.
Add content and bp's and more security in the Criminal Cartels home world area's and mark them on the map. This has huge potential for content and criminal interaction personaly i find gate camping very boaring but the options for pirates at this point are gate camp, kill more npc pirates, or mine so it's fairly obvious what we will choose since pirates in empire space worth 4-5k drop better loot then 20-50k pirates.
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:06:00 -
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Yup right after I got outa the "Entering Space" window, Concord was already locked on and firing me. I had autopilot on and autopilot couldnt beat it.
Going into Hed-GP? I had just come out of a jump, instantly locked...webified, warp scrambled by a PC and was destroyed..way before the 10 sec invuln too. So it happens I know this the hard way.
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Amunet
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 15/08/2003 04:07:37
Anyone else lose their battleship, cruiser to uber concord?
I just lost mine, I traveled to Amarr because I needed ammo, I got their safely but on the way back i jumped to to Yulia, 1 millisecond after i got outa "Entering Space" I was being attacked by concord, isnt their a 5 second invulnerabilty time that you get cause i sure as hell didnt get it. Welp looks like ccp is going to be replacing me ship AGAIN. I mean the cops got on to me faster then auto-pilot could warp me, thats just heh, way to go ccp!
Well I for one am welling up with tears.
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Jame
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Posted - 2003.08.21 22:42:00 -
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"who wants to pay for game when a weeks worth of work goes down the ****ter in 2 minutes?" - supe
that is the funniest **** i think i'll ever hear a pk say. i laughed so hard my side still hurts.
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HendriX
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Posted - 2003.08.22 03:18:00 -
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Honestly though, I have seen ammo sold in 0.1 systems too often to give specific examples, other than that I think a pirate corps like M3G4 and such should have no problem making their own ammo (at least), I would think...Now that I tried to answer nicely, let me tell you what I really wanted to say:
On top of that, did you somehow "beam" from 0.0 to 1.0 space or did you just appear there out of pure luck? I dont think so, you got there gradually and you should have know better to not get close, yet jump into a 1.0 space...
This thread is like plain dumb, wtf were you doin there buyin ammo anyway? I dont care if you were buyin candy for that matter, should have never came close...
KTHXBYE
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Grisnalg
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Posted - 2003.08.22 13:48:00 -
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Molly is definately Jash in drag... no doubt about it.
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t00r
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Posted - 2003.08.22 14:18:00 -
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who wants to pay for game when a weeks worth of work goes down the ****ter in 2 minutes?
All the carebears in empire space trying to recover from PC pirates work?
I think u ppl should take the rough with the smooth. If u wanna get to the otherside, go around.
You should be glad concord dont taunt u also.
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Silver Striker
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Posted - 2003.08.22 14:50:00 -
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ROFL, this thread is a riot. You pirates are a bunch of no talent whining babbies.
I especially liked supe's explanation on why he though it was unfair to get killed in 1.0 space.
You left out a few though:
1. PC Pirates made a lot of their money killing, stealing, and decieving other players.
2. PC pirates are getting what they deserve.
3. PC Pirates have used every exploit/cheat available to get ahead in the game.
The game is better off with you guys gone, you're nothing but a bunch of children who kill ppl who have no chance against you, you earn your money by robbing ppl of their hard earned isk.
How does it feel having it done to you? You want to quit, do us a favor and take your friends with you.
There is a big difference between being ganked/or insta killed and being ***** slapped inside a police sector. The concord and police battleships hang out at jump in points. And if you did manage to warp away you think it would matter? You're never going to escape that sector with that ship, just kiss it goodbye. You should be thankful they don't pod you as well.
As for the Battleships doing 400 dmg, deal with it. With all guns firing I do a hell of a lot more than that.
You made your bed, now you have to sleep in it. Enjoy.
Silver Striker
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Doctor F
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Posted - 2003.08.22 14:53:00 -
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Yeah, I remember when you fly to some gate, and before your screen loads Moo, Sinister or some other trash are already locked on you and blasting your ship to pieces.
Sux, dosen't it ?
Well, bite it.
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Lubinski
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Posted - 2003.08.22 15:42:00 -
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bah! your a pirate and *****in cause u got uber killed by concord. a pirate shouldnt be able to enter a protected system. thats why they call u a "pirate".
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Lubinski
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Posted - 2003.08.22 15:44:00 -
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the 1.0 = 100% secure thing is what ccp is looking for. its a chance for the newbs to learn the game and stuff with out getting owned by pirates and ****,
~ FLAME AWAY TROLLS ~ |
Needo
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Posted - 2003.08.22 16:02:00 -
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If you warp in on a CONCORD donut party the load-time is rather long, just like when you warp in on a pirate camping spot and their mothers, their cans and their drones... Sounds like Tank got to see the other side of the lag-gun?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.22 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 22/08/2003 16:12:43
"the 1.0 = 100% secure thing is what ccp is looking for. its a chance for the newbs to learn the game and stuff with out getting owned by pirates and ****"
... Am too lazy to retype everything, so i'll just copy and paste from the thread in Patch Review section. Maybe you'll then see the side-effects of the "100% secure thing"
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I did a small test yesterday on Chaos with the latest game build. Used a freshly created, neutral character. Moved out of Kisogo School station, locked on police ship, fired my civillian gun, found myself in the pod. About two seconds after that the threat window popped up, indicating the sentry gun which originally blew me up is now locked on me.
But wait, it gets better.
Docked at Kisogo station to get new Ibis. Left the station. "Your ship is out of control" and am in the pod again. Sentry gun still doesn't like me. Back to the station, back outside, back in the pod. Leather, rinse, repeat.
New players are gonna love it; there's no explanation provided for this behavior whatsoever so they're left clueless, stranded and losing ship after ship. For what's worth, my security standing was -0.1, and Caldari faction -0.05. Am clearly the worst enemy of the state :s
btw, it's possible to escape the guns by immediately warping to some distant target as soon as you undock... i doubt many new players will think of it, though and it's not the right solution anyway.
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... as you can see, the uber-concord indeed provides "chance for the newbs to learn the game and stuff with out getting owned by pirates and ****" :s
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