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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.08.15 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 15/08/2003 04:07:37
Anyone else lose their battleship, cruiser to uber concord?
I just lost mine, I traveled to Amarr because I needed ammo, I got their safely but on the way back i jumped to to Yulia, 1 millisecond after i got outa "Entering Space" I was being attacked by concord, isnt their a 5 second invulnerabilty time that you get cause i sure as hell didnt get it. Welp looks like ccp is going to be replacing me ship AGAIN. I mean the cops got on to me faster then auto-pilot could warp me, thats just heh, way to go ccp!
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.15 04:33:00 -
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Hmmm, Concord shouldn't have been able to target you in the 10sec or whatever invulnerability. But you buy ammo? Maybe it's time to become a little more self-sufficient. Not being rude, just a suggestion. Even the large ammo only takes a little bit of ore.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2003.08.15 04:34:00 -
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It's that kind of thinking that's causing the market to crash ;(
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.08.15 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dragon Emperor on 15/08/2003 04:37:35
I don't think a -10 should ever be able to enter concord HQ.. if he can do it, then the security system is wrong and need change.
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 04:48:00 -
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Well can you expect anything when you camp in a 1.0 system killing people?
a guy with -9 or less should not enter something bigger than 0.8...
Just like a wanted criminal has a tendancy to be aprehended quite fast if he enters a police monitored area
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.15 04:51:00 -
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It's that kind of thinking that's causing the market to crash ;(
Hahha, I blame the market crash on the abondance of higher lvl BP copies. I bought all my Ammo BP's off the market and a few traders 
Besides do you know how expensive it would be to buy Cruise Missiles for my members that use them?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.08.15 05:13:00 -
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Yup right after I got outa the "Entering Space" window, Concord was already locked on and firing me. I had autopilot on and autopilot couldnt beat it.
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Leyla
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Posted - 2003.08.15 05:34:00 -
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Don't think you are getting your ship back, we just got a reply from a GM (fate). They won't replace the ship our member lost today, almost the same scenario as you. Corp mate just cancelled also... oh well.
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nails
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Posted - 2003.08.15 05:38:00 -
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lol I was just there too. was quite funny. Concord seems to be on a zero tolerance again. Standings are being enforced. if not four expired negative security action, for race standing.
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 05:53:00 -
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well stick to your 0.0 space then, and let the newbies in the 1.0 systems alone "i was just going there to get some ammo" *caugh* did you mean "I was just going there to grief on some newbies mining peacfully in the Amarr homeworld"? A common spelling error that is...
When you have managed to get -10 you should be obliterated on sight in a totally secure system 1.0=100% yes?
Learn to live with it, be a pirate, live lawless
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:01:00 -
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You know its cool that CONCORD is that power full but having no invulnerability after getting outa the last system is just bull crap. People have to go threw 1.0 system. They should be made so that you can travel threw there but not stay there.
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:04:00 -
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your a pirate :) chose "prefer less secure route" in autopilot
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Deadzone
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:37:00 -
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Tank, I can;t believe you are sitting here whinning about losing your ship, when you are one of the biggest PK'ers in the game....entering SECURE space on top of it.
Jesus, get a clue!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:38:00 -
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Has the Yulai/Pator problem been fixed then?
CONCORD have always had amazingly fast targetting times and it sounds like neg sec players are finally being kept out of 1.0 systems?
As for getting your ship back....mmmmmm....bad karma?
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:40:00 -
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people please...
The problem here is either that Concord can somehow lock you despite your invulnerability, or that the invulnerability is gone.
Anti-pirates had better pray that it's the former...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 15/08/2003 06:42:27
Pirates should be able to move through empire space.. just not able to hang around for long. If you want to police Eve let the players do it, not SUPER NPC BATTLESHIPS AND SENTRY GUNS.
It's retarded currently, sorry.
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:42:00 -
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Edited by: Photon on 15/08/2003 06:44:14
hehe im sure you have podkilled like 40 players that also want their ships back, and only because of an exploit, but are they going to? no...
You are asking for it when you enter 1.0 space...
With all your "effforts" to make newbies quit this game in horror you can at least lay off the 1.0 systems for now and take some de-tours
Sorry pirates but police (concord) has to be fast and painfull when you enter a system that is supposedly 100 percent secure...
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:45:00 -
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Yeah, concord/sentries are overkill atm, neg sec people cant travel through empire space at all. You get no reaction time, just die while the screen loads.
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Tir Madokin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:47:00 -
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I think the cops got tired of people saying they were weak. 
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: Photon on 15/08/2003 06:51:14
well as far as i see it it goes like this.
1.0 means 100% like a wanted pirate like Mr. Tank here should be kept out no matter what. And 100% means just that, no room for error or passing trough.
Then we move on to 0.9, a bit more relaxed "you might get trough the stargate if you're fast" kind of thing.
0.8 still secure you will most probably get to the stargate if you drive straight at it and the police will halt a bit, maybe their eating doughnuts or something.
0.7 Police force present, will attack if you camp the gate, but you can just fine pass trough, any offence to other players tough will be delt with very painfully.
0.6 now we're nearing a sheriff stadium, camping will not be allowed, neither will killing players.
well i don't wanna write anymore, but I think pirates should stick to their less secure systems, noobs don't want yellow threat bars :)
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nails
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:55:00 -
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don't worry, tank will take a big crew to the outskirts of empire space tomorrow and farm CONCORD to make him feel better.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:56:00 -
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Hmmm, didn't hey just tone down the Sentry Gun Damage last patch? I wish they would find a happy median.
As too the ppl saying glad that Tank lost his BS to Concord, just imagine if it happens to you from a glitch. NPC's should have the same rules we do. I can't target NPC's or PC's 10 seconds after I exit warp or they exit warp, neither should they.
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 06:57:00 -
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Hmmm, didn't hey just tone down the Sentry Gun Damage last patch? I wish they would find a happy median.
As too the ppl saying glad that Tank lost his BS to Concord, just imagine if it happens to you from a glitch. NPC's should have the same rules we do. I can't target NPC's or PC's 10 seconds after I exit warp or they exit warp, neither should they.
well your kind of asking for it when you are podkilling newstarters hehe 
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Karif
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Posted - 2003.08.15 07:02:00 -
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NPCs have always ignored the invulnerability flag...
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Spokes
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Posted - 2003.08.15 07:02:00 -
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I hate to say it but Tank is right. Same rules should apply here, but at the same time, 1.0 should be 100% secure. If a guy like Tank warps to the gate, before he can turn around he should be scrambled, jammed, and killed, just like he likes to do =]
And besdies, maybe the cops saw you go in and radioed ahead for ya, so they were waiting, just like in real life.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.15 07:08:00 -
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well your kind of asking for it when you are podkilling newstarters hehe
Plz don't associate myself or my Corp with Pirates. 
Tank has a point. As a player I see the point. I don't agree with Molly, Tank and whoever else killing noobs in 1.0 space just because the code let them, I actually went into those areas looking to kill them a time or two, but always missed them by 20 minutes or so.
If you want to see what the Marshals are about look at our website then our forums...
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Zorgan
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Posted - 2003.08.15 07:11:00 -
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all pirates stay the hell out of high sec. space... those days are over. 
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.15 07:12:00 -
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Concord ships and Sentry guns doing FOUR HUNDRED is overkill. I pity a pirate in a cruiser or lesser ship.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.15 07:16:00 -
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Concord ships and Sentry guns doing FOUR HUNDRED is overkill. I pity a pirate in a cruiser or lesser ship.
I pity anyone in a ship below a BS...I have Moa almost ripped to shreds by berserk Sentry Guns before. Then they toned down the damage. Now the guns are prone to be berserk again and do 400+ Damage per shot...
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 07:18:00 -
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Deathtraps for players in games = Bad
It has always been bad to have deathtraps. It has NEVER been a good idea to implement deathtraps. And any furbearer getting jollies off the current situation will howl bloody murder when that deathtrap catches them for a mistake. Reports are already trickling in of instant death due to smartbomb usage and the normal Concord mistaken identities.
Deathtrap = Sledgehammer Response to Problem
Me, I'm more of a stilleto fan.
Wanna convince pirates that staying in Empire space is a bad idea while giving them time to realize that mistake? Equip Concord with Energy Neutralizers.
Prior to this patch, Concord would eventually whittle down even a battleship pirate. It just took forever because of shield boosters/hardeners. So 'help' the process along a bit.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
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