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Zezman
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Posted - 2003.08.15 16:28:00 -
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I lost my first Tristan to CONCORD under entirely different circumstances several weeks ago.
Original Rant Posted on Eve-I
(»)(») À\Oo/ À=\/= This is Rat. It is a vermin. It has eaten all of Bunny's lettuce. |

Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:04:00 -
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ive never had any run ins with concord -------------------------------------------- My passion is to fly, nothing beats it, nothing can compare to it. Free as a bird. Bird of prey. |

Supe
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:37:00 -
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Since you people are to stupid realize the difference between concord and pc pirates i will help explain it to you.
PC pirates have been paying for th game for 3 months Concord don't pay jack.
PC pirates worked there asses off to get into battleships. Concord got them for free.
PC Pirates worked there asses off for equipment. Concord got it for freee.
PC pirates average hits around 200 area and miss. Concord hits for 400 constantly and sentry guns do the same and NEVER MISS.
PC pirates faset locking time is around 1 second. Concord Instantly locks/webifies/warpjams you with 1 ship.
PC Pirates are owned by Bookmarks but ya lets nerf the mwd more and leave bookmarks as is.
PC pirates payed around 130 milllion to get there ships and equip them. They lose there ships before there screen loads.
People killed by pc pirates ships cost on average around 40 million tops and they have at least 2-3 seconds to warp away or possibly die.
PC pirates are stuck in empire space now cuz well they are further abused by this *cough* pvp game which offers no pvp value. Face it it's everquest with miners.
You can blame us all you want bottem lineis you have a chance to escape i have payed for my account just like everyone else and after a month and half of mining and doing bull**** i was sik of it and went for the only other possible route in this game which is pvp. Just so you know all of Sinister Corp lost there security in 0.000001 space which is just proves a point of how ccp likes to screw over paying customers.
Further proof of bull**** is the MinerII thing which still isn't fixed. Rather then fixing bugs the developers feel it's more imporant to make concord a all powerfull force nerf microwarp drives over and over and give away items to friends.
The Developers can take this game and stick it where the sun don't shine cuz allmost all of Sinister Corp has canceled there accounts we refuse to pay for a game that is buggy as **** and has 150% biast developers who can't fix brutal crashing bugs and feel it's more important to **** us which is a result of there total lack of content in the game.
Bottem line is had there been actual content there wouldn't be as many pirates. So with all this in mind this is just another jumpgate which will die in 2-3 months when the next new game comes out and all the carebears go with it.
Just a fyi before you noobs scream cancel your account we allready did most of us will be gone between the 27-30th so rejoice you will be able to mine 24/7 and have absolutly nobody to fight anymore. You can ammass as much wealth as you choose but it will serve no purpose until you eventually go pirate yourself.
Tell then i will enjoy the next 15 days trappped in a station in empire space. Cuz the devs ****** me like everyone else.
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wordy
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:41:00 -
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ok cya
"Hey, I am cool. My mum said so!" - Milhouse Van Houten
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:45:00 -
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cya around, have a nice day -------------------------------------------- My passion is to fly, nothing beats it, nothing can compare to it. Free as a bird. Bird of prey. |

Deadzone
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:53:00 -
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Supe, all that is fine and dandy, but when you became a PC frat, you made the choice to play by the LIMITED set of rules that encompass that career choice. YOU KNEW that being a pc rat would get you attacked by Concord in high-sec space. YOu KNEW that PC rat hunters would kill you if they had the chance. And you knew that you had the chance of losing your ship and equipment at any time just due to your sec rating. You post what the biggest load of **** I have ever seen. YOU made every choice to become what you have become, so you have two more choices to make. You can either live by the RULES defined by your career choice, or there is the door. F**** whiners like you are the absolute worst, especially when you whine about losing everything when you choose to live on the wrong side of the line. Tough ****. Vice-Admiral
Executive Commanding Officer Military Command Hadead Drive Yards |

smoked
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:56:00 -
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Quote: Tank, I can;t believe you are sitting here whinning about losing your ship, when you are one of the biggest PK'ers in the game....entering SECURE space on top of it. Jesus, get a clue!
This is a typical trolling foool, why not use your "main" character to post bs like this?
This should also plain and simple show there is a problem, tank one of the better ppl killed due to an EXTREEM CHANGE. CCP=One Extreem To The Next.
Do you realize how many "F0k This I am Unsubscribing" I heard yesterday? CCP works backwards sometimes, and this one extreem after another should show they need to have a more acceptable deployment of new "UBER" Concord, etc etc.
Oh well, why don't you troll some more. That is, if it's a pirate inquiring about balance or game mechanics he is whining.
Ever here a M3G4 cry to you after you blew him up? I didn't think so...
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:05:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Jim Raynor on 15/08/2003 06:42:27 Pirates should be able to move through empire space.. just not able to hang around for long. If you want to police Eve let the players do it, not SUPER NPC BATTLESHIPS AND SENTRY GUNS.
It's retarded currently, sorry.
Dude, what do you know? Are you the one coding the game?
Show me a piece of EVE coding with your name on it. Seriously, what makes you think pirates should be able to move through empire space. As far as I know, thats your opinion, not some standard the game must follow.
The devs obviously have a vision of how their own game should behave, and its only tough luck that it conflicts with your opinion.
I'm sorry if that sounded rude, but please stop and think before posting. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:05:00 -
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Im not reading all this but anywas i skimmed right threw this post. But, If autopilot cant warp you out faster then Concord locks u and target jamms u then theres something wrong there. Right after i got outa "Entering SpacE" I was already locked and jammed, now how is that fair to me? I had 0 time to react, nothing. At least your so called newbies had a chance to react. I didnt use warp dis in 1.0 space and most of the time they were afk because the afk where pretty much the only ones i could get because it would sometimes take me more then 1 try to get them meaning i had to warp out cause of concord. ---
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Photon on 15/08/2003 18:09:30
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Quote: Tank, I can;t believe you are sitting here whinning about losing your ship, when you are one of the biggest PK'ers in the game....entering SECURE space on top of it. Jesus, get a clue!
This is a typical trolling foool, why not use your "main" character to post bs like this?
This should also plain and simple show there is a problem, tank one of the better ppl killed due to an EXTREEM CHANGE. CCP=One Extreem To The Next.
Do you realize how many "F0k This I am Unsubscribing" I heard yesterday? CCP works backwards sometimes, and this one extreem after another should show they need to have a more acceptable deployment of new "UBER" Concord, etc etc.
Oh well, why don't you troll some more. That is, if it's a pirate inquiring about balance or game mechanics he is whining.
Ever here a M3G4 cry to you after you blew him up? I didn't think so...
haha btw read about the crying m0o in the other forum then :) no offence but that puts a spice on things -------------------------------------------- My passion is to fly, nothing beats it, nothing can compare to it. Free as a bird. Bird of prey. |
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:11:00 -
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Quote: Im not reading all this but anywas i skimmed right threw this post. But, If autopilot cant warp you out faster then Concord locks u and target jamms u then theres something wrong there. Right after i got outa "Entering SpacE" I was already locked and jammed, now how is that fair to me? I had 0 time to react, nothing. At least your so called newbies had a chance to react. I didnt use warp dis in 1.0 space and most of the time they were afk because the afk where pretty much the only ones i could get because it would sometimes take me more then 1 try to get them meaning i had to warp out cause of concord.
Well why did you try to enter 1.0 space in the first place? -------------------------------------------- My passion is to fly, nothing beats it, nothing can compare to it. Free as a bird. Bird of prey. |

Heritor
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:22:00 -
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And your problem is ...........
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:25:00 -
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Its hard to see Sinister leaving...and all they tell is so right! For what should i go on mining to get a BS? The game is a online player game, with online enemys and ALL ITEMS ARE WEAPONS (eccept the Miner I)!!! But there is nothing to figth - all is booring and i¦ll go back to play "Vietcong" with only 15 other players on our little own game server when my 3 months are over, leaving the folks alone here that thinks the game is funny without action. Making a seccure area for n00bs is cool, making all space secure is - boring...
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:33:00 -
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CCP should start a second server without NPCs, sentry guns and police for - experienced players only. I bet we would have fun there 
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:43:00 -
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I had to goto 1.0 space to buy ammo since no one hangs around in .4 space or less space. Way to go CCP, I cant even get ammo now. ---
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Amorex
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:49:00 -
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You choose to be a pirate, now pay a price for that choiсe.
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wordy
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:54:00 -
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Use lasers
Just a thought
"Hey, I am cool. My mum said so!" - Milhouse Van Houten
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 18:59:00 -
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Quote: I had to goto 1.0 space to buy ammo since no one hangs around in .4 space or less space. Way to go CCP, I cant even get ammo now.
You are such a carbear! lolzo9rz!!! u want cpc to come up with ansr for u u dont even think!@ U COULd oops sorry caps lock you could pay sum1 to get u ammo! u could mug someone with an ammo bp! you could heaven forbid by an ammo bp copy for urself! you could keep a stash of pirateed craploot, recycle it, and use those minerals to make ur ammo! u be sneeky and ask a freind to pass a message to hire a dude to carry a crap load of ammo to u! OMG imagine the guys face when he realized he just rearmed Tank CEO! OMG OMGOMG! LOLOL!!! if only you could screenshot his face!
but no u gotta come here and whine and wah wah wah carebaear about how hard it is do things that u were warned you shuddnt aoughtta do! care bear carebear carbear care-wear carwhere hargrave har har so there to kthxlububye.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

wordy
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Posted - 2003.08.15 19:05:00 -
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Hang on a bit, why are we giving Tank CEO ideas? Doesn't he always try and pod ppl?
"Hey, I am cool. My mum said so!" - Milhouse Van Houten
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2003.08.15 19:12:00 -
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You can try and give Tank ideas, but I don't think they'll sink in
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.08.15 19:24:00 -
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You are a freak and immature Bad. ---
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 19:26:00 -
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mr. pot, meet mr. kettle.
Actually, i think you could really spice up someone's day with that last one. If you could actually control your immature urges long enough to not kill the poor bastard, you might even make a valuable contact and supplier - thereby adding depth to the game.
but "adding depth" doesn't seem to be your plan 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Grisnalg
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Posted - 2003.08.15 19:48:00 -
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I have no mercy or compassion for exploiters/griefers like Tank, Molly, etc. You got what you richly deserved.
How many times did we see posts by people "I got pk'd by Tank, etc... by the time my comp loaded up and the loading space tab was gone I was already at the clone station.."
On the flip side CCP's fixes are extremely heavy handed and poorly thought out. I would have much rather seen Tank post about how he lost his ship after a long drawn out fight with a Concord Fleet he couldnt escape. By that I mean a well balanced fleet that chased him down and caught him, not insta spawned on him. Give everyone a chance I say.
However Tank, Molly and crew have well earned this by their own actions. Like it has been said before, you should have already been banned.
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JAXX
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Posted - 2003.08.15 19:49:00 -
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OK, seriously most if not all of these people seem to just want to say haha you had it coming. The point that you all are missing is that thre was no warning that this would happen even.
The patch notes say something to the effect of concord and sentry guns get a boost to power. they say nothing of Pirates entering Secure space will instantly locked, scrambled, webbed, and destroyed by 400HP per shot guns before you screen even loads.
What if he had docked there over night? he'd never even have a chance to leave carebear land...This is total BS and no, this patch doesn't affect me (yet), yes my corp mates have been podded by tank, but I still have the ability to see that Tank got shafted on this one.
Just wait till one of you splash a drone or something and.... poof insta Kill! I just watched a guy spontaneously splat who splashed a destroyed station while trying to kill NPCs.
Why even put concord in ships if they are instantly locking and killing you, you might as well just have a notice that pops up saying you have entered carebear space, you have died, enjoy your pod.
Sometimes to win, you have to fight just as mean and dirty as the other guy. Nobody will beat you challenging you to the field of honor for pistols at dawn. They have to slit your throat while you lay in bed, just like you'd do them. - Jash Illian |

smoked
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Posted - 2003.08.15 20:14:00 -
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Quote: You choose to be a pirate, now pay a price for that choiсe.
shut up carebear pirate your comments are irrelevant because you guys still dont' know what you are and plain simply your just another pirate corp trying to deny their ways.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 20:20:00 -
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Quote: OK, seriously most if not all of these people seem to just want to say haha you had it coming. The point that you all are missing is that thre was no warning that this would happen even.
for the record, i am poking tank because being annihilated before he had NO chance to respond is PRECISELY what he's inflicted on many others. Note i did not say i believed this shoudl continue - just poked him. Poke! Poke!! Peek! C-64 bytes free!!!!!!
I still have yet to hear a good reason why he thinks he should be in Amarr? Or any 1.0 system? Or why he doesn't at least have some better sources of ammo than Run Real Fast? Logistics, man, logistics!
I neither enjoy his destruction nor give a rat's ass worth of sympathy about it. Nor do i think he's looking for any.
But he IS saying it's goofy he can't go to 1.0 without being instasplatted - and that itself seems goofy to me.
If he can't see how his complaint about the method of destruction is hypocritical, shrug, whatever. He's killed MANY people with no chance to escape - he did not seem overly concerned then - he should not be overly concerned now. It will improve, or it will not, or he should alter his travelling plans.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.08.15 20:28:00 -
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Ok here is an idea that should keep everyone happy.
Pirate enters the 1.0 sec system. Concord shows up and instead of shooting the pirate it target jamms him/her.
This should take care of the problem, the pirates can travel tru the empire space but they cannot operate there.
CCP: leave bounty hunting to us, real players, Concord is cheating.  -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 20:30:00 -
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My...the maturity level of the internet is astonishing. I see now why schools are trying to expose kids to the internet as early as possible. They'll fit right in.
Look. Calling Tank and other pirates names isn't refuting a single point of their argument. If you believe Tank is immature, why are you wasting so much energy to bring yourself down to his perceived maturity level? A scant few of you actually attempt to refute the arguments present by those other than Tank. But most of you haven't proven you have any argument beyond childish "Nyaah, Nyaaah! You got busted!" I left in Elementary School.
You say the pirates deserve it for their action. Why does a player that pays the same amount of money that you do deserve NO chance to escape when you still have a chance to escape them?
"Because I don't like them" is not a valid answer. Now, can any of you take that on? Or shall we wait for Tank's next post so you can use your schoolyard jeers as an argument?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 20:34:00 -
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Quote: Ok here is an idea that should keep everyone happy.
Pirate enters the 1.0 sec system. Concord shows up and instead of shooting the pirate it target jamms him/her.
This should take care of the problem, the pirates can travel tru the empire space but they cannot operate there.
CCP: leave bounty hunting to us, real players, Concord is cheating. 
They already did. Prior to the patch if a pirate went hostile Concord immediately warped in and warp scrambled, webified to 0m/s, and completely jammed their ship. Bugs not counted. The two armageddons that fled at the sight of Molly could have attacked her without fear of retribution. She couldn't lock anything.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.08.15 20:34:00 -
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I've been flying around with my -4.0 security rating through empire space for a while now.. After patch I've lost two ships to superfast targetting speed of security forces... Locked and destroyed almost before space finishes loading. (just insured bestowers and punishers since I knew CCP would OVERCOMPENSATE yet again)
That's in 0.7 sec space btw. -4.0 sec can't pass through 0.7 space without getting warp scrambled and blown to bits before autopilot kicks in.
Is it just me or is there practically no difference between 1.0 and 0.5 sec space ? and -10 sec and -2.1 ? (aside from players being able to attack with impunity at -5)
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