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cball
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Posted - 2003.08.15 13:01:00 -
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what a laugh, pirate/griefer that whines about the game mechanics not being in his favor....
Play the game and stop being a carebear... ...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 13:09:00 -
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Quote: The new CONCORD is way too powerful. I mean come on, you guys can sit there and complain about pirates killing you during loading times, but you don't see pirates camping the entry points to systems where you are completely vulnerable. It's not like they can't either cause Jim's done it to me before, but I damn well deserved it and still got away. So you should feel privilaged they allow you to think and prepare and run the blockade. CONCORD on the other hand didn't deal with invulnerability and gave them no chance whatsoever to react. That's complete crap. If a fellon walks into a police station he would still have a chance to run back out.
Firstly what fellon would walk into a police station in the first place? - I think you have obviously been watching too many episodes of 'America's Dumbest Criminals'...
Anyway in this case pirates aint just wanting to walk into the police station - they in fact want to walk through it on their way to somewhere else - or possibly stop off at the fron desk to buy a set of handcuffs...
As others have already pointed out Tank has made a complete whining fool of himself here.
The fact is that pirates force normal players to make complete detours around their blockades and now pirates will have to do the same aroun 1.0 sectors.
Only a couple of weeks ago I was involved in a corp mining operation in 0.0 space (13 jumps away from a station). This had to be completely reorganised after Shollos and some cronies turned up right in the middle of the route back to the station and started podding people.
We organised a new route to an alternative staion 4 jumps longer and the people on the wrong side of the blockade had to make a 34 jump trip to get back to the mining area...but we continued our mission...
Pirates will just have to show the same sort of flexibility... After podding newbies in 1.0 space people like Tank certainly get no sympathy from me!
In he same way people laugh if a newbie goes to 0.0 space and then whines if he gets podded we should laugh at pirates who go to 1.0 and lose their ships.
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2003.08.15 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Hawkins on 15/08/2003 16:05:11 Oh I dunno. Tanks experience reminds me of a moment in history when the reknowned pirate Blackbeard sailed his ship up the Thames, skull and crossbones flying high and proud, through a flotilla of Royal Navy 'Men O War' in order to dock at Greenwich to buy cannon balls. Was he stopped from undertaking his commercial endeavours?
Course he wasn't, cos he wasn't dumb enough to try it. Maybe there's a lesson in that?
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Kennian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 13:44:00 -
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Tank...
Be glad you're playing the game at all, if CCP had any balls you and molly'd be permabaned
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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.08.15 13:49:00 -
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Quote: ‘Do not despise the snake for having no horns, for who is to say it will not become a dragon?'
Say.. thats a nice sig man!
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2003.08.15 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Hawkins on 15/08/2003 13:53:59
Quote: Say.. thats a nice sig man!
why thankyou. I can't take credit tho. It's from the 1970's chop socky TV show, The Water Margin.
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Cro Ramel
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:02:00 -
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Tharrn - Just because you didn't pod and kill the pirates doesn't mean you didn't get the job done. While those pirates are relocating they aren't pirating are they? Opens the blockade up for travelers does it not?
"If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
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Mon Maures
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Maures on 15/08/2003 15:22:56 Wordy - you are 100% correct.
How many noob corpses do u have in your trophy cabinet now Tank? Fact is i'm sure 99% of the community is having a right good laugh at the thought of you, the exploit king, being taken down by a bug - if thats in fact what it was.
And to top it off you have the temerity to a)moan about it & b)ask for a refund.
I've heard the term carebear used alot to describe those who moan about pirates and pvp. Now we have a carebear pirate who moans that he can't enter safe systems cos the nasty policeman did his job too well. "I wanted to buy some ammmo .........hahahahahahahahahaha - yeah of course u did, it's always worth going into the polices back yard to get standard equipment when you are public enemy no.1..... what a c*ck! The fortunes of war, i'll tell you plain, is a wooden leg or a golden chain. |

Cro Ramel
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Cro Ramel on 15/08/2003 14:07:54 Oh yeah and insta-gib is nonsense. I saw this crap coming about a month ago so I never let my security status slip. And comparing CONCORD to the pirates that kill people is retarded. Pirates are in one spot blockading, you look on local so say to yourself, "Oh **** Tank CEO is in this system." You then have options to avoid said pirate. CONCORD is everywhere they just warp in and you die, they dont have to find you, they dont have to risk anything because they are NPCs. Complete and utter bull-**** if you ask me. Cro out!
"If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
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Kennian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:11:00 -
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ugh...i fell to my own pettyness there for a minute...even if there's nothing more pathetic than a noob griefer in MMO's...
BUT...regardless, on the current topic. NO ONE should EVER be targeted/attacked/webbed/screwed with before their UI loads. and while i agree that pirates should not be in empire space, i dont beleave it's such a bad thing for them to just be passing through. though it should be simmiler to running a blockade. roll the dice, and take your chances. However i honestly have little to no sympathy if you get nailed running through...considering there is absolutely NOTHING in empire space you cant get out in 0.0 space with all those huge corps running around out there. So in the end....make a run for 0.0 space and pray to whatever gods you worship that you make it.
Peace and Long Life, ~~Kennian~~
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:19:00 -
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Quote: You know its cool that CONCORD is that power full but having no invulnerability after getting outa the last system is just bull crap. People have to go threw 1.0 system. They should be made so that you can travel threw there but not stay there.
lol for the same reason +security rating players get shot and killed in 0.0 by players like u. if you want to enter a 1.0 Tank! i suggest you start killing some peeps from your own corp or maybe mOo to get your security to +10.0 lol that will be the day ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |

Cro Ramel
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:26:00 -
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LOL this guy thinks that people get shot in 0.0 space because they have positive security. No they shot because they might drop rare loot.
"If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:26:00 -
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Firstly what fellon would walk into a police station in the first place? - I think you have obviously been watching too many episodes of 'America's Dumbest Criminals'...
You'd be surprised at the number of felons with outstanding warrants that walk into a police station every day to pay bail for a friend. Or visit them in jail. Stay away from real life, I'd hate to shatter your fantasies about how it works.
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Anyway in this case pirates aint just wanting to walk into the police station - they in fact want to walk through it on their way to somewhere else - or possibly stop off at the fron desk to buy a set of handcuffs...
If it were a Concord HQ, you'd have a point. Last time I checked, Highway 59 in Texas didn't go through any police station. There were a couple police stations located along the highway. But the cops didn't have some sort of Spidey Sense that a criminal was passing by on the road.
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As others have already pointed out Tank has made a complete whining fool of himself here.
Don't care what you think of Tank and it's not relevant to the conversation. Few of those people making fun of Tank have proven up to the challenge of responding to the more rational arguments against the super concord. Guess they're just debate griefers. 
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The fact is that pirates force normal players to make complete detours around their blockades and now pirates will have to do the same aroun 1.0 sectors.
Pirates do not present a 24/7 persistant danger anywhere in space. Most the time, when you're viewing your favorite "Ships destroyed" option in the map, they're not even there any more. Concord is there 24/7 ready to destroy anyone at the drop of a hat.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

OmegaTron
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:39:00 -
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Quote: LOL this guy thinks that people get shot in 0.0 space because they have positive security. No they shot because they might drop rare loot.
what i meant was 9times out of 10 when a ship is destroyed in a 0.0 region the person had positive security rating and is probably just picking up some ammo like Tank ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |

Angel X
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:46:00 -
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Tank I may have picked up some of you stuff after you got wasted in Amarr.
I'll leave it outside the Amarr station if you want to come and pick it up. need to lay down now... |

Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:47:00 -
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Tank asked me for money once, he got me good, I ws watching TV and I heard my shields drop...
By the time I activated MWD I was webified X3, energy drained... so he initiated convo to ask money. I had no cargo and he saw this so he asked for 3 mil, I had them, but I told him I had 1 mil and that I just joined my corp so I was on probation and no money would be given to me.
He accepted the 1 mil and let me go on my way
This is not an exploiter in my eyes, just a pirate.
Mind you, I WAS mounting 5 proto gausses and about 50 mil worth of other equip, which I had been stoopid enough not to pair up to a warp core stabilizer.
But then again, I woul dhave self-destructed rather than give that to him :)
----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" ----------------------------------------------- |

Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:49:00 -
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Quote:
Pirates do not present a 24/7 persistant danger anywhere in space. Most the time, when you're viewing your favorite "Ships destroyed" option in the map, they're not even there any more. Concord is there 24/7 ready to destroy anyone at the drop of a hat.
Pirates have chosen to be pirates and should therefore accept some consequences for their actions.
However, if I get podded by a player pirate its not like I have any choice in the matter.
If Tank wants to come and play in 1.0 then he can go and do something about it!
In addition, Concord does not pod - PC pirates do! Which is worse?
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:51:00 -
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Quote: In addition, Concord does not pod - PC pirates do! Which is worse?
Concord, now you have to travel X jumps at 120m/s
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Photon
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:59:00 -
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well you are inside empire space are you not. better to go 20 jumps than paying 1 mill for a new clone -------------------------------------------- My passion is to fly, nothing beats it, nothing can compare to it. Free as a bird. Bird of prey. |

Aesthete Null
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Posted - 2003.08.15 15:07:00 -
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Personally I think its *horrible* that Tank's ship got blasted while he couldn't see or do anything about it.
What should have happened is he loaded, was immediately webified and scrambled, and had to watch in ultra slow motion as his ship was torn apart atom by atom, complete with excruciating sound effects and a blinding lightshow, while large words flashed on the screen saying:
"Suck it Up, Buttercup!!!"
Not making him watch his ship get destroyed is the real crime here, and for that I blame CCP for wasting the opportunity to rub his nose in it.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.08.15 15:08:00 -
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Quote: well you are inside empire space are you not. better to go 20 jumps than paying 1 mill for a new clone
so you have 6.4 mil experience points?
DAMN
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Amthor
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Posted - 2003.08.15 15:09:00 -
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Wow, talk about carebears.. "I lost my ship" *river of tears* I thinks its unfortunate that you popped right on top of a Concord "Blockade" and lost your ship but I'm sure it was fun for them. Sorry, where is your since of risk again? I bet you feel a lil like your victims right? Mayby I should ask for my ships back every time i have lost it warping into and area i know i could get into trouble and have. Cry to someone else.
Amthor, MASS For a wounded man shall say to his assailant "If I live, I will kill you, if I die, you are forgiven." Such is the rule of honor. |

Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 15:10:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Tank CEO on 15/08/2003 04:07:37 Anyone else lose their battleship, cruiser to uber pirates?
I just lost mine, I traveled to Amarr because I needed ammo, I got their safely but on the way back i jumped to to Yulia, 1 millisecond after i got outa "Entering Space" I was being warpjammed by a pirate, isnt their a 5 second invulnerabilty time that you get cause i sure as hell didnt get it. Welp looks like ccp is going to be replacing me ship AGAIN. I mean the rats got on to me faster then auto-pilot could warp me, thats just heh, way to go ccp!
so, when can we expect you to start threatening to quit?
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 15:15:00 -
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Quote:
In addition, Concord does not pod - PC pirates do! Which is worse?
Pirate Isk Analysis:
Price of best clone: 4,189,184 isk Isk paid to pirates in 3 months of play: 0 Losses sustained to pirates in 3 months of play: 0
Concord Isk Analysis:
Price of best clone: N/A Isk paid to Concord in 3 months of play: N/A Losses sustained to Concord in 3 months of play: Approximately 30 million - 40 million isk.
And I do go into 0.0 space, I've chased a few pirates hanging out in low sec areas, I have gone about my business with Setec/DelZon/Crepiscule in the same solar system and have spent 90% of my playtime in systems < .5
So what am I doing wrong?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.15 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 15/08/2003 15:16:13 dbl post...see next page 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Laer
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Posted - 2003.08.15 15:59:00 -
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No matter what way people put it Tank has a good arguement. Every counter arguement is just BS whiners trying to get revenge. There is no legitimate arguement agains the fact that the new CONCORD is crap. His ship along with everyone else who lost theirs because of that should be refunded.
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2003.08.15 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Hawkins on 15/08/2003 16:07:54
Quote: There is no legitimate arguement agains the fact that the new CONCORD is crap.
Well that settles that then 
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.15 16:09:00 -
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Quote:
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Pirates do not present a 24/7 persistant danger anywhere in space. Most the time, when you're viewing your favorite "Ships destroyed" option in the map, they're not even there any more. Concord is there 24/7 ready to destroy anyone at the drop of a hat.
Pirates have chosen to be pirates and should therefore accept some consequences for their actions.
However, if I get podded by a player pirate its not like I have any choice in the matter.
If Tank wants to come and play in 1.0 then he can go and do something about it!
In addition, Concord does not pod - PC pirates do! Which is worse?
I'd rather be podded, thanks. Why waste your time flying an egg around?
I remember podding used to be a big deal, because at the beginning of retails, there were no clones, so you lost an assload of points.
Nowadays you can get a 2.5M point clone for 250k. Which, in the scheme of things is nothing. And newbie clones are even cheaper.
After losing your ship, the cost of a pod is next to nothing. .
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.08.15 16:17:00 -
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Quote: No matter what way people put it Tank has a good arguement. Every counter arguement is just BS whiners trying to get revenge. There is no legitimate arguement agains the fact that the new CONCORD is crap. His ship along with everyone else who lost theirs because of that should be refunded.
Please try to return coherent answers, it helps your credibility. You just sounded like a whiner yourself.
----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" ----------------------------------------------- |

Xelios
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Posted - 2003.08.15 16:26:00 -
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Why not pay people to bring you the things you need from empire space?
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