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Gealbhan
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
463
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Posted - 2013.11.03 16:51:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote:Dear EVE Online players,
When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.
I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.
I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.
Regards.
Hold the phone!! Straight guys like that kind of stuff??? This is news worthy of Fox!!!  |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
562
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Posted - 2013.11.03 16:54:00 -
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Gealbhan wrote:Aya Shinomiya wrote:Dear EVE Online players,
When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.
I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.
I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.
Regards. Hold the phone!! Straight guys like that kind of stuff??? This is news worthy of Fox!!! 
Fox News is shaken to its core at the recent revelation that one of their most senior correspondents is gay. They won't be reporting on anything but that, for a while. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Aya Shinomiya
State War Academy Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:07:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya
State War Academy Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:07:00 -
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S1euth wrote:Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Why do you think men also have nipples although they do not need them?
All male mammals have nipples because testosterone production (which kickstarts the development of male organs and features and stifles the development of female organs) begins later in fetal development. So, to answer your question we must know why does testosterone production begin later in the development process. Gender isn't as important as beginning the development of vital or complicated organs, such as the brain, for a species to succeed.
Right. That the gender is determinated from the beginning would also not explain why there are not a few people which in fact have both genders or feel "wrong" with their gender. I mean not these Gender-Mainstream weirdos. I recently saw a documentation on this and the doctor argued in the same way like you and that the gender is determinated later by hormones and sometimes some people get too many of another type so there development goes in both directions.
Aya Shinomiya wrote:<3 your thread derailment.
Not my fault. :D I only say my opinion like all others. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2400
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:10:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:S1euth wrote:Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Why do you think men also have nipples although they do not need them?
All male mammals have nipples because testosterone production (which kickstarts the development of male organs and features and stifles the development of female organs) begins later in fetal development. So, to answer your question we must know why does testosterone production begin later in the development process. Gender isn't as important as beginning the development of vital or complicated organs, such as the brain, for a species to succeed. <3 your thread derailment. That's not entirely a satisfactory explanation of nipples though. Different hormone production seems to mainly answer why some features will continue to develop in different diverging paths, but it doesn't entirely answer why both genders share the same initial structure. I'd guess the answer is simply that since the structure is important to one of the genders and therefore the success of the species, the basic structure is so integrated to the genes, that it will manifest in all genders.
The evolutive precursor to mammary glands are sweat glands, and so we can safely assume that the base code for present day breasts is quite old and there's never been any pressure to split it into two versions. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
563
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:18:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote:Right. That the gender is determinated from the beginning would also not explain why there are not a few people which in fact have both genders or feel "wrong" with their gender. I mean not these Gender-Mainstream weirdos. I recently saw a documentation on this and the doctor argued in the same way like you and that the gender is determinated later by hormones and sometimes some people get too many of another type so there development goes in both directions.
How do science deniers even exist in public media, much less become interested in sci fi? I'm completely baffled, every time I run into someone that just flatly refuses to believe that science and medicine aren't out to kill us all. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4477
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:18:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote:Dear EVE Online players,
When I am bored a little bit I often click around and look at the characters you guys have created. One thing according to the female characters is very ... prominent: It seems you guys mostly like big racks and half naked, skinny bodies.
I know that with a probability of 80 to 90% a man created the character. I am not a feminist. I think this a firstly a questions of aesthetics which of course depends on personal views. But I ask myself is this the imagination you have how a woman should be? This is not an attack on you guys. And I do not want to start a discussion of what you all thing is beautiful. I only wanted to show a conspicuity.
I do not tell you what to do. EVE Online is a free game for which you all pay. You can do what you want. I only wanted to give my opinion.
Regards.
I am sure you have seen some BBC documentary showing the pre-historic statuette of fertility known as Venus of Willendorf.
It's been tens of millenia since men (genetically?) desire the same kind of woman.
EvE players are mostly men and are just an (in)volution of those 22,000 years ago cave men.
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voetius
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
103
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:18:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:S1euth wrote:Aya Shinomiya wrote:
Why do you think men also have nipples although they do not need them?
All male mammals have nipples because testosterone production (which kickstarts the development of male organs and features and stifles the development of female organs) begins later in fetal development. So, to answer your question we must know why does testosterone production begin later in the development process. Gender isn't as important as beginning the development of vital or complicated organs, such as the brain, for a species to succeed. <3 your thread derailment. That's not entirely a satisfactory explanation of nipples though. Different hormone production seems to mainly answer why some features will continue to develop in different diverging paths, but it doesn't entirely answer why both genders share the same initial structure. I'd guess the answer is simply that since the structure is important to one of the genders and therefore the success of the species, the basic structure is so integrated to the genes, that it will manifest in all genders. The evolutive precursor to mammary glands are sweat glands, and so we can safely assume that the base code for present day breasts is quite old and there's never been any pressure to split it into two versions.
^ What Ishtanchuk said more or less. I recall reading in a text on evolution that in some cases evolution decides that it is just more efficient to use the same body play for both male and female. Not only nipples but the basic plan for male and female genitals in humans as well (despite the apparent differences, look at the simliarities in terms of structure). |

Angeal MacNova
LankTech
102
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:34:00 -
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Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
564
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Posted - 2013.11.03 17:39:00 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal". That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Digits Kho
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
7
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:40:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:17 pages of zero content ftw. If you cant handle our complicated discussion then get out |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
743
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Posted - 2013.11.03 18:54:00 -
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Isaac Collins wrote:No one cares, I repeat. No one. Not anyone, no individual exist with a real care for this matter. The game is 94% men (90% Male if you wanna be generous) We could have women looking like Quazymodo's grandad after he got his anus pillaged by the Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory and No one would legitimately care.
Give this man a prize. wumbo |

Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:56:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Slims girls with Big **** are the most attractive version of the Female form. There is no debate about that. Its a fact rooted in science.
Indeed. Its basically the perfect body that most people can think of. |

AndromacheDarkstar
Amarrian Corsairs
821
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:17:00 -
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Richard Ramlrez wrote:AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Slims girls with Big **** are the most attractive version of the Female form. There is no debate about that. Its a fact rooted in science.
Indeed. Its basically the perfect body that most people can think of.
Debate over? Did i win. NOPE. |

Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
332
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:22:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal". It also has more to do with ratios. A quick glance at a woman with obvious breasts, a waist that is narrower than the profile of her breasts and hips basically says "guaranteed female" to men's subconscious.
But averages have been trending up in recent years. Russia's average, for example, is now a d-cup.
For most heterosexual men who prefer large breasts, it's about exaggerated femininity. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |

AndromacheDarkstar
Amarrian Corsairs
821
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:25:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal". It also has more to do with ratios. A quick glance at a woman with obvious breasts, a waist that is narrower than the profile of her breasts or hips basically says "guaranteed female" to men's subconscious. But averages have been trending up in recent years. Russia's average, for example, is now a d-cup. For most heterosexual men who prefer large breasts, it's about exaggerated femininity.
As a side note you have the most wonderfull EVE breasts ive ever laid eyes on. NOPE. |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
565
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:25:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal". It also has more to do with ratios. A quick glance at a woman with obvious breasts, a waist that is narrower than the profile of her breasts and hips basically says "guaranteed female" to men's subconscious. But averages have been trending up in recent years. Russia's average, for example, is now a d-cup. For most heterosexual men who prefer large breasts, it's about exaggerated femininity.
The only part of a woman I require to be "exaggerated" is her intelligence. I have sworn off all non-nerdy women, for the rest of my life. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

AndromacheDarkstar
Amarrian Corsairs
822
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:33:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal". It also has more to do with ratios. A quick glance at a woman with obvious breasts, a waist that is narrower than the profile of her breasts and hips basically says "guaranteed female" to men's subconscious. But averages have been trending up in recent years. Russia's average, for example, is now a d-cup. For most heterosexual men who prefer large breasts, it's about exaggerated femininity. The only part of a woman I require to be "exaggerated" is her intelligence. I have sworn off all non-nerdy women, for the rest of my life. Also, you argued my "average in the Western half of the world" statement by bringing up Russia. Russians are Asian. Asia is in the Eastern half of the world, along with Australia.
"The only part of a woman i require to be exaggerated is her intelligence"
wow, keep up the good work buddy im sure it will pay off one day. NOPE. |

Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
332
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:35:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal". It also has more to do with ratios. A quick glance at a woman with obvious breasts, a waist that is narrower than the profile of her breasts and hips basically says "guaranteed female" to men's subconscious. But averages have been trending up in recent years. Russia's average, for example, is now a d-cup. For most heterosexual men who prefer large breasts, it's about exaggerated femininity. The only part of a woman I require to be "exaggerated" is her intelligence. I have sworn off all non-nerdy women, for the rest of my life. Also, you argued my "average in the Western half of the world" statement by bringing up Russia. Russians are Asian. Asia is in the Eastern half of the world, along with Australia. I wasn't arguing. Merely bringing up data related to cup size.
You must've been distracted when reading my post. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
567
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:42:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal". It also has more to do with ratios. A quick glance at a woman with obvious breasts, a waist that is narrower than the profile of her breasts and hips basically says "guaranteed female" to men's subconscious. But averages have been trending up in recent years. Russia's average, for example, is now a d-cup. For most heterosexual men who prefer large breasts, it's about exaggerated femininity. The only part of a woman I require to be "exaggerated" is her intelligence. I have sworn off all non-nerdy women, for the rest of my life. Also, you argued my "average in the Western half of the world" statement by bringing up Russia. Russians are Asian. Asia is in the Eastern half of the world, along with Australia. I wasn't arguing. Merely bringing up data related to cup size. You must've been distracted when reading my post. It was the House meme poster, wasn't it?
Not distracted at all. Just nitpicking a small part of your post to keep some kind of debate rolling, here. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
567
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:45:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Angeal MacNova wrote:Well, I did some digging and I'm currently around the 15 mark as far as websites go. The general consensus looks like most guys like C cup.
Which is average in the Western half of the world. Most would consider C-cup to be "perfect", or at the very least, "ideal". It also has more to do with ratios. A quick glance at a woman with obvious breasts, a waist that is narrower than the profile of her breasts and hips basically says "guaranteed female" to men's subconscious. But averages have been trending up in recent years. Russia's average, for example, is now a d-cup. For most heterosexual men who prefer large breasts, it's about exaggerated femininity. The only part of a woman I require to be "exaggerated" is her intelligence. I have sworn off all non-nerdy women, for the rest of my life. Also, you argued my "average in the Western half of the world" statement by bringing up Russia. Russians are Asian. Asia is in the Eastern half of the world, along with Australia. "The only part of a woman i require to be exaggerated is her intelligence" wow, keep up the good work buddy im sure it will pay off one day.
It already has. I've been with my current girlfriend for over a year. we nerd out on all kinds of sci fi, and doubled our book collection when we moved in together. Far better than what I was doing before I met her... meet a girl > date for exactly three weeks > break up with her for being boring > get berated by my mates for "throwing away a total hottie" for a week > repeat, ad nausem That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
332
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:48:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Not distracted at all. Just nitpicking a small part of your post to keep some kind of debate rolling, here.

For the record, a girl who is both nerdy and busty... win-win. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
568
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Posted - 2013.11.03 20:53:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Not distracted at all. Just nitpicking a small part of your post to keep some kind of debate rolling, here.  For the record, a girl who is both nerdy and busty... win-win.
My lady is physically average, in nearly every way. The payoff is that in the brains and personality department, she is destabilizingly awesome. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

AndromacheDarkstar
Amarrian Corsairs
822
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Posted - 2013.11.03 21:50:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Not distracted at all. Just nitpicking a small part of your post to keep some kind of debate rolling, here.  For the record, a girl who is both nerdy and busty... win-win. My lady is physically average, in nearly every way. The payoff is that in the brains and personality department, she is destabilizingly awesome.
I guess im either very lucky or completely bowled over because my Gf is far from average in any way at all and that makes me a very happy man. NOPE. |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
568
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Posted - 2013.11.03 22:05:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Not distracted at all. Just nitpicking a small part of your post to keep some kind of debate rolling, here.  For the record, a girl who is both nerdy and busty... win-win. My lady is physically average, in nearly every way. The payoff is that in the brains and personality department, she is destabilizingly awesome. I guess im either very lucky or completely bowled over because my Gf is far from average in any way at all and that makes me a very happy man.
We can do one of the following: 1: compare eachother's phallic length and girth to see whose is bigger 2: argue about which one of us has a better girlfriend
But we can't do both. Mostly because that will end in a draw... your peen is most likely bigger than mine. That's not surprising. But my girlfriend is superior to everyone's girlfriend. This will end in a cyclic argument, causing an inevitable critical mass that would endanger the very fabric of EVE, and force CCP to sell the game world to Obama. Even if you voted for him, deep in your soul you KNOW you don't want that. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1361
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Posted - 2013.11.04 01:04:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Not distracted at all. Just nitpicking a small part of your post to keep some kind of debate rolling, here.  For the record, a girl who is both nerdy and busty... win-win. My lady is physically average, in nearly every way. The payoff is that in the brains and personality department, she is destabilizingly awesome. I guess im either very lucky or completely bowled over because my Gf is far from average in any way at all and that makes me a very happy man. We can do one of the following: 1: compare eachother's phallic length and girth to see whose is bigger 2: argue about which one of us has a better girlfriend But we can't do both. Mostly because that will end in a draw... your peen is most likely bigger than mine. That's not surprising. But my girlfriend is superior to everyone's girlfriend. This will end in a cyclic argument, causing an inevitable critical mass that would endanger the very fabric of EVE, and force CCP to sell the game world to Obama. Even if you voted for him, deep in your soul you KNOW you don't want that.
Insert mandatory purchase of sub par ship insurance joke here. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy Zero Hour Alliance
188
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Posted - 2013.11.04 01:12:00 -
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I find an over abundance of phalic shaped ships intimidating, I have resorted to "stuffing" and I blame CCP.
Sorry its late, I climb a lot and generally find an athletic body to be sexy. Normally this doesn't include huge boobs. |

Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
4398
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Posted - 2013.11.04 02:54:00 -
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who resurrected this?
you mean we don't have to look at a brand new thread including all these "facts?"
semi-refresing... |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
574
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Posted - 2013.11.04 03:17:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:who resurrected this?
you mean we don't have to look at a brand new thread including all these "facts?"
semi-refresing...
Didn't you know that the week leading up to Halloween is official Necropost Week? This tradition is as old as internet forums, themselves... That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
96682
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Posted - 2013.11.04 04:39:00 -
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OH this thread has Reappeared, I upgraded my Assets since last time 
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