This ship isn't the ideal solo boat, but it's still possible to create solo fits that are powerful (the expense will be what holds it back for most people):

Requires Genolution CA-1, CA-2 and a EG-602 at least.
[Nighthawk, XLASB]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II


Warrior II x5

You were saying?

Ok now I'm done posting fits for realzies, no more baiting me out.

An actual solo fit armor Astarte would generally beat that XLASB Nighthawk in a real 1v1 given equal pilot skill, but the point is that it wouldn't be as big of a whitewash as some might think and the projection on the Nighthawk is really useful for stuff that isn't command ship 1v1s.

I can't remember if I brought this up before, but why are mining links being excluded from the no-pos sitting? Why are miners allowed to mitigate risk but not pvpers? I would like to see this change but more than that I would like an explanation as to why there is a distinction. Links are links and risk mitigation is prevalent when boosting from a POS regardless of the links fitted. No risk = no reward, right?

Some consistency would be nice but apparently not obvious to all.

I can't remember if I brought this up before, but why are mining links being excluded from the no-pos sitting? Why are miners allowed to mitigate risk but not pvpers? I would like to see this change but more than that I would like an explanation as to why there is a distinction. Links are links and risk mitigation is prevalent when boosting from a POS regardless of the links fitted. No risk = no reward, right?

Some consistency would be nice but apparently not obvious to all.

This will make the training path for gang boosting more of a slope and less of a cliff.

Hey guys, I want to make it clear that the weapons timer for links is not for Odyssey 1.1. It's a tool we have in our back pocket for if it ends up being needed. I won't rule out using it depending on how things go in the future, but we're also not dead set on enabling it.

What's the feasibility of implementing the aggro inheritance a la remote rep instead?

You mentioned elsewhere performance issues, but that sounds strange:

1. every time a ship in a fleet gets an aggro flag, its fleet inherits the same flag (no checks)
2. every time 1. happens, the fleet active boosters inherit the same flags (no checks)

Meaning no additional cycles... Nor any aggro checks, it's all cascaded.

Note that as a result, the weapons flag is inherited whenever a boosted fleet member gets it, resolving the situation "waiting timers to jump out all together" described in the thread.

PS don't forget to add them on killmails - to troll the "soloers"

:Edit: Updates posted on August 7th :Edit:

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And finally we're making some significant changes to the availability of mindlink implants:

Adding normal T2 mindlinks (including mining mindlinks) to the Concord LP store for 20,000 Concord LP and 20m isk (~60-80m final product sale price).

Adding Navy Mindlinks with the 25% bonus to two different disciplines at once (matching racial command ship bonuses) to the normal racial LP stores at 100,000 LP and 100m isk, as well as requiring you to provide one of each of the T2 mindlinks that it combines. (~350m isk final product sale price).

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Can't you notice how your good armor fits still have 2 links when the shield ones downgrade to 2 small neut?

And your dual 1600 astarte is easier to fit (with links) than a single XLASB Nighthawk? Same for dual MAR, triple MAR, or 1600+MAR Astarte/Eos: they are easier to fit than a bloody single XL-ASB Nighthawk (or Sleipnir).

Really... Thank you for these proofs that armor CS have good fittings and shield CS [with the exception of Vulture) lack PG and CPU, what some of us keep saying from the start.

The XLASB is a battleship-sized module. You can't even get a LAR on an astarte.

Try fitting it with appropriately sized modules.

Additionally, the nighthawk is a FLEET command ship - it's not designed to self rep at all. It's designed to soak up loads of alpha and then get repped by basilisks or carriers.

If you want to skirmish in a shield self-tanked command ship, the recommended option is the minmatar hulls.

I know, I know, we all agree that all races should have 1 skirmish and 1 fleet hull, but that's not the way it's going to be so we just have to adapt.

C'est la vie!

Additionally, the nighthawk is a FLEET command ship - it's not designed to self rep at all. It's designed to soak up loads of alpha and then get repped by basilisks or carriers.

First off, the Fleet/Field command ship distinction no longer exists.

First off, the Fleet/Field command ship distinction no longer exists.

Second, the Nighthawk was the FIELD command ship, while the Vulture was the FLEET command ship, so even if the distinction existed anymore, you'd still be wrong.

The Nighthawk is terrible next to the Claymore. Giving it six mids would be a start towards evening the balance--it could have a stiffer tank, but would still be much slower and have a larger sig.

Currently, the Claymore can field a stronger tank than the Nighthawk, with not much less DPS, with a smaller sig and ~300m/s faster under MWD, and with easier fittings so you don't even come close to needing implants.

CCP Fozzie have you ever thought about making it possible to overheat gang links?
Im thinking especially if you have a gank linked ship on grid in a fight it could be cool to overheat them to maybe get a 3-6% extra fleet boost from them?

Could be nice to use as a last resort option in the final seconds before your command ship turns into scrap metal

A little Offtopic but it would be nice if you could overheat your primary weapons on drone boats imo,
Like adding the ability to overheat drone speed mods, drone tracking mods and drone optimal range and maybe drone dmg mods too?

To give them the same abilities as turret and missile ships have would be fair imo.

it sounds to me about as realistic as the concept of overheating armour plates.

command links simulate better fleet communication and coordination, presumably by dedicated staff and equipment. you won't improve that by turning up the power of the radios and shouting louder. you do it by remaining calm :-)

Remaining calm racks up inner tension, up to the point when you blow up on comms and is rendered unable to command unless you take a minute to have a shot of something right before anything undesireable happens. You don't issue commands in the process, obviously.

Or really, insert any technobabble about overclocking any of that sensitive iCircuitry installed into link.

Do I have to spend 2 more minutes on how you benefit from overheating plates as well?

I was hoping to present an argument as to why allowing overheat of command links was a bad idea :-)

I'm not going to spend 1.4 bil to get a 25% increase to my boosting.[/b]
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Angry 0.0 industrialist rant over, carry on reading the rest of the thread now.

I'm a Rorqual pilot currently training Capital Industrial Ships V to get the maximum amount of boosting available out of this toon (yes my main toon is a booster, deal with it). Contrary to what most mining boosters thing, getting the Orcas and Rorqs out of the POS would be nice. Actually compressing ore and having haulers actually ferry heavy water to the Rorq to keep the indy core running in the belt would actually spice things up a bit for 0.0 mining ops.

What I'm a little concerned with is that you are changing the mindlink bonus from 50% to 25%. Now if I had gotten any other mindlink I wouldn't be upset as much but I spent 1.4 bil on a mining foreman mindlink to get that 50%. If by some freak accident I get podded it might actually be more beneficial to save up for a Chimera (what I'm training for next) because I'm not going to spend 1.4 bil to get a 25% increase to my boosting.

Angry 0.0 industrialist rant over, carry on reading the rest of the thread now.