"You may not create a character for the purpose of stealing the name and likeness of another player, or non-player entity. Inaccurate claims of identity are otherwise permitted."

Wouldn't that work a little better, and provide a clearer guideline for what is and isn't allowed?

"I'm pursuing this."

Here's the news item...

That would be a good wording of the old rule. Unfortunately, the new rule (which we're meant to pretend is the old rule) wouldn't be covered within that. Specifically, in some cases inaccurate claims of identity are now bannable.

Well now everything makes sense. That article is dated 10-06-2013, so it's from the future. We'll just have to wait until October to find out what happens!

YK

DD.MM.YYYY format. Same as all the other articles there. That is from June 10th.

also mister GM guy your posts are garbage you should stop posting bro

Sorry bout that. Just trying to bring some levity to the drama. I was under the impression this rule change was implemented this week and read the link with that in mind. My bad.

YK

Come to think of it that change is just as bad. It covers any entity named by players. Ships are entities named by players.

If I'm sitting on a wormhole and someone jumps through, I rename my ship to match theirs and jump into their hole. That's not being clever trying to stay under the radar of his bro's on the other side if they catch me on dscan... that's impersonation and subject to account action?

Greetings pilots,


We would like to address your concerns regarding the update to article 8 of our TOS that was published yesterday. Some basic information on how we deal with issues that come up regarding impersonation is therefore appropriate.

All cases are investigated individually on a case by case basis. If there are complications or difficulties in reaching a solution cases are moved to senior game masters, which happens a lot with the impersonation issues that are reported to us. There are no magic catch-all rules and policies to cover every eventuality so they must interpret the rules we have in place and apply them to the issue at hand in order to keep the peace. For all practical purposes there has been no change in how impersonation issues will be handled compared to the last few years. The TOS update reflects the way reported cases of impersonation have been handled by Customer Support for a long time. The rules applied have been buried in our naming policy and EULA but have now been placed in plain view in order to better help players to make decisions on how they interact with one another.

As cases are investigated GMs look at the information that is available, one of the important considerations being the intent behind a playerGÇÖs actions. Benevolent roleplaying of NPC entities may not be considered to warrant action in regards to impersonation while malicious activity employing such trickery will not be tolerated.

One concern is that we have pretty much banned all scams in EVE. Clearly, this is not the case.


Thank you and fly safe.

Greetings pilots, ...

Not to be a complete wang, but wouldn't the new terms of service mean the NCdot is in the running for GM loving? I mean, they made the alliance name explicitly the same as the Northern Coalition many moons ago. While we're on this track, wouldn't Mittens and the current Goonswarm alliance be in the same boat, since they named a new alliance (many moons ago) a near identical name to their former alliance after the whole Delve paying the rent thing?

The list could go on for pages really. Misrepresenting yourself in Eve is a huge part of what makes Eve... Eve.

Maybe it is just me, but I feel like everyone is nit-picking this change.

Maybe it is just me, but I feel like everyone is nit-picking this change.

Scenario : All the asshats, scammers, gankers, awoxers and other nefarious people that currently drive the market and generate all the decent content leave, as a result of attempts to mass market Eve. CCP is then left with a game with questionable physics and mediocre PvE content.

Despite the assurances of GM Grimmi, the new ToS puts some, up until yesterday, acceptable shenanigans into a limbo where the fate of those indulging in them is at the mercy of an interpretation of something that is as clear as mud by someone who may or may not, be in a good mood, had enough coffee, hungover, have gotten some the night before.

Maybe it is just me, but I feel like everyone is nit-picking this change. If CCP ever had a problem with all this stuff that has been going on for so long I'm sure that they would have excplicitly said that this is not allowed. (I.E. pretending to be a recruiter or lying about your affiliations) It seems like the sort of impersonation that they can reasonably be caring about is the sort of scamming you see potentially happen with character sales. When people make slight changes to a character name so that in almost every way they appear to be this specific purpose. Then they profit off essentially identity theft. Past all that stuff, they did state that they handle everything in a case by case basis, so if you really think that whatever "impersonation" you were potentially taking part in is not exploitative, then you can make your case to them. Most mmo's with a subscriber system dont hand out perma bans left an right anyways, worst case scenario you get a temp suspend and a slap on the wrists unless you have a previous history of exploiting/cheating in the game anyways. But hey that is just my two cents, give CCP a break, i doubt that they were trying to make drastic gameplay changes, because if they did this would have been way more public.

Scams

A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust, temporary confusion or ignorance of game rules, and robs you via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, scams do not violate any game mechanics and can not be compensated for by the GMs, nor can the scammers generally be punished for their actions.


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DON'T TRUST ANYONE. It's a tough galaxy out there, and anyone could betray you.

Make sure that the person you are doing business with is who he says he is.
EVE-Online has a unique naming policy, making it impossible for more than one player to have the same name. However, names may be very similar, and it is a good idea to be 100% certain that the party you are dealing with is the real thing. Also, never believe someone who says he is an alternate character of someone you know but doesn't offer any proper proof.

You are obviously lying and should thus, be banned. Petitioned.

Blizzard has been extremely successful with these baby steps in WoW. "At this point in time we have no plans to..."

jesus there is a lot of butthurt in this thread. Can we not bring up the plethora of cases to which this is normally applied to which is clearly what they are referencing instead of bringing up fringe cases where the rule has never been applied?

For example: Someone wants to apply to SniggWaffe and they find a corp on the recruitment threads called SniggWaffe. (notice the dot) in an alliance WAFFELS. (misspelled) that was made to misdirect pilots and scam for recruitment.

Previously this would result in a name change for both the corp and the alliance which are clearly impersonating the real deal. Now it would be a ban. I really donGÇÖt get all the rage about this. You couldn't do it before, you still canGÇÖt. They simply changed the punishment. And knowing the GMs the punishment is probably relatively light

Blizzard has been extremely successful with these baby steps in WoW. "At this point in time we have no plans to..."

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