Is there anyone who thinks this is a good idea and isnt a somer alt or a truly mindless brownnoser?

Thank you for saving history at least.

I still wonder how these new ships will be entered lore wise into the game.

Yes, I actually approve CCP participation in other ingame events. It's time everyone realizes that no matter what CCP does, it will never be fair for everyone.
Be it :
- a pvp event (what about the miners?) or
- a give-away for every account (I only have one account, why should people with more accounts have advantages?) or
- a race (I am a new character without max skills, why should I not have the same chance) or even
- the AT tournaments, which everyone approves (I cant afford plex for the bidding, this is favoritism towards rich alliances!)

Nothing CCP could ever do would be fair to absolutely everyone. They are using Somer as a platform to reach a large number of players. If I want to participate, I simply create an account. I really don't see the drama that is being projected by a majority of goons in this thread.

Is there anyone who thinks this is a good idea and isnt a somer alt or a truly mindless brownnoser?

People with gambling addictions...?

If I want to participate, I simply create an account.

Huge blatant favouritism is alright because it's not possible to get rid of every tiny piece of potentially perceived favouritism.

it seems you fellas don't understand the severity of what you are trying to do here.

CCP Navigator said, SOMER is trustworthy. They were and will be in future. So this that you said, could not be true...

P.S.:Hopefully I had not to use sarcasm-tags or something.

Straying a bit into ad hominem attacks for no reason... I'm willing to bet there are people out there, myself included, who aren't SOMER alts/brown nosers/gambling addicts and also think supporting player-driven initiatives to increase community turnout to live events is a good idea (even if this attempt is misguided).

I'd rather find a better and more clear selection criteria in picking corps and the prizes given than lambaste CCP for trying something new without offering anything constructive to work with.

This is Eve Online, I see way too many people taking offense at SOMER Blink making money through a legitimate business they created.

I also highly doubt the success of the business is founded entirely on taking advantage of gambling addicts who surely can't control their behavior.

Seriously? I convince people I know, mostly irl, to pay me for PLEX in advance. I then buy them through Markee, then use the bonus credit to Blink free ships - the system seems to work fine for me.

It doesn't address the fact that the primary concern remains that CCP is giving out free ships to one specific entity and is thus showing favoritism and not with Somer Blink saying "yes" to it.

Did I get that right? Your argument that sending devs to a Somer-sponsored event could theoretically also be perceived as favouritism is of course correct, but I don't see a problem drawing a line at some point of severity and intent.

If you read the thread you might have noticed that I already mentioned that the Spotlight dev blog mentioning Somer was alright IMO because its intent was mostly informative and the influence on the sandbox probably rather limited (while most likely being more influential than your example). But I clearly see the current issue as much more severe beginning with the stated intent of supporting Somer and the added endorsing of the service and claims of its legitimacy.

Ok, you guys win. I guess if you can't beat 'em ... join 'em.

Fair is fair. We must level the playing field.

My organization is starting up a gambling/lottery site. As part of our grand opening we are hosting an EVE player event at Jack's Bar & Grill, down the road from my house.

Now I understand that CCP can't possibly send out several devs to each and every little player event like mine. That would be crazy. I do, however, have to protest CCP sending devs to the somer blink sponsored eve vegas event. The presence of CCP devs gives somer blink additional publicity and exposure that CCP is not providing for my event. This is giving somer blink an unfair advantage.

Also... something about sandboxes.

I hope to god you're not suggesting these instances of favoritism be evaluated on a case-by-case basis!?

Who decides where this line is? Are you going to organize the committee on unacceptable favoritism?

CCP shouldn't be allowing third-party sites to give away expensive in-game items or collectors items. CCP should not be exclusively using one third-party site unless they off similar sites the same opportunity.

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I'd rather they didn't pick corps to begin with. Why not just have CCP show up at an event, pick a random person from the crowd and give them a prize? Why not have CCP do their own lottery with them handling everything about it? Why not have CCP support EVE Vegas without giving trillions in revenue to one group of players?

If CCP wants to compensate somer blink for helping promote eve vegas how is that anybody's business? Would it be ok if it were done with RL money? What if that were then converted to plex and then isk?

If the rest of you ***** had an organization that ccp thought could help promote their game you might get the same deal. But you're all just a bunch of hysterical nerds ... so no dice.

Thank you for making concessions to preserve game history, and please continue to find ways to promote our sandbox.

Fair points, and I think this is the biggest issue to be resolved. If the end goal is to increase the motivation of player owned corps to participate in these live events, and there were known prizes that every corp in Eve could bid on in advance, wouldn't that even the playing field and still retain those valuable prizes, participation rewards, etc? I realize corps get the marketing advantage when they choose to sponsor stuff like this, but there must be a way to make the prize distribution equitable, even if it comes from CCP and is handed to a single corporation (corps bidding for rights to the items as a package, or individually, keeps coming to mind).

Is there any way to work that out or are all instances of CCP creating items in-game going to end in failure?

Oh ffs...

They were just trying to add a little fun to the eve vegas event and the twisted panties brigade has to come out and **** all over it.

Get a grip people.

My god you people are ********. It's a ******* game! Why have certain shipmodels when they don't physically exist anymore?

I for one thought the Gold Magnate would be a cool thing to give out since everyone had a chance to get it.

Ultra facepalm.

...by giving a single entity a trillion isk, because :sandbox:

I know enough to stop bringing up non-profit organizations as they have **** all to do with any of this. I also know that CCP is free to make whatever marketing, sponsorship and promotion deals it want to promote its game. I know they will take player hysteria into account to a certain degree and I want them to know that I'm ok with it.

I'm sure you'll find that right now people aren't concerned about what ship it is, but instead the blatant favoritism being shown by CCP toward one particular player group.

Keep up with the rage, man. Don't get left behind.