Very disappointing CCP sees nothing wrong in principle with handing out game changing amounts of free stuff to their favored in-game entities. If Goons ever got that sort of free isk from the free isk fairy(not holding my breath on that one!) then the chaos we could sow would make Burn Jita look like a polite misunderstanding.

It might be game changing for the people winning the prizes, but do you really believe that it is a game changing amount for the game as a whole? I seriously doubt that.

I am just wondering about a few things though, since when is making ISK in an online videogame a commercial lottery. I might not understand the US legal system, but that might even be too farfetched for the US legal system.

And the second thing is, wasn't the reintroduction of unique ships the main issue here and the biggest problem, considering this wasn't something worthy for the CSM to look at when CCP gave Somer Blink some prizes at their last celebration.

And going for hypothetical legal systems, wouldn't changing the way the drawing is done be a breach of contract with the people who entered ISK into the Somer Blink site, with the promise of gaining a bigger chance of winning those items?

Regards,

Carka

This is a lot of words for "we complained to CCP and they politely ignored us and continued doing exactly what they were going to do anyway"

"we have heard your concerns and we will change exactly nothing about this hundreds of billions of isk handout but maybe we'll do something different in the future. or not. *pats head*"

Despite the obvious mistakes that CCP have made this time, I actually like that they are trying to be more involved with community sites.

It is a tricky issue, but I'm glad to see they recognized where they got it wrong.

You know how you go to a casino, and purchase chips with cash, those chips do not have any value outside of the casino?

Yeah. Isk can be bought with real cash. When you have a business (And somer blink is a business) that has business practices dealing with ingame and out of game money (GTC cards for instance)... it becomes a commercial lottery.

When your boss draws names from his employee pool to see who gets to stay late, that is not a commercial lottery.

I think the CSM has done an excellent job here. I envision the CSM as a volunteer body that can translate the communities' concerns into something reasonably coherent and representative, and then let CCP do with that what they wish. Transforming rolling pages of largely jabbering idiocy into something that is actually useable is about the best they can do.

I personally as an actual human being, as opposed to my usual forum troll persona, would like to thank other actual human beings for spending some of their actual human time to competently and effectively represent the communities' concerns to CCP, which is what I voted for them to do.

Thanks.

I think the CSM has done an excellent job here. I envision the CSM as a volunteer body that can translate the communities' concerns into something reasonably coherent and representative, and then let CCP do with that what they wish. Transforming rolling pages of largely jabbering idiocy into something that is actually useable is about the best they can do.

I personally as an actual human being, as opposed to my usual forum troll persona, would like to thank other actual human beings for spending some of their actual human time to competently and effectively represent the communities' concerns to CCP, which is what I voted for them to do.

Thanks.

The CSM was not consulted in advance about this promotion, so it was just as much a surprise to us as it was to the community. Our reaction was broadly similar to that expressed in the forums.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal


I honestly dont care about any of this, Ive never participated in Somerblink [not much of a lottery guy] but I wish them all the best. I dont mind CCP adding in old unique spacepixels into their game again, I dont mind never having a chance to get them regardless. I dont mind what the CSM knew or didnt know. And I dont mind wether or not CCP was wrong in doing what they did. It simply does not affect me one bit.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal

There was not a single personal attack in my original post, there was nothing even close to an attack period in my original post. O.o;

I merely stated that I enjoyed all the tears this whole situation has created.

There was not a single personal attack in my original post, there was nothing even close to an attack period in my original post. O.o;

I merely stated that I enjoyed all the tears this whole situation has created.

My concern is that CCP still endorsed a player entity, that is against the EULA. Also are they making it so people banned from blink have an equal chance of winning? How about people like me who don't want to give blink our information? And CCP this doesn't change the fact that you ignored the CSM. What steps is the CSM taking to prevent CCP from giving them the run around again?

Yeah but that post was pretty terrible anyway. I mean, I don't think it broke the rules either and shouldn't have been ISD'd, but it was bad enough that I'm willing to look the other way.

Does the CSM consider the value of the prices being handed out as reasonable?
To me they seem completely over the top. Like a factor of 10 over the top.

That should have been your question #1.

If the CSM is truly relevant, why are they not being used, and where is the transparency?

It's astonishing how CCP Pokethulu manages to completely ignore most of the specific points that were risen whilst only vaguely touching subjects 2 and 4 without even hinting at any intention do mitigate the damage that has been done.