This is the exact kind of nul-sec sheeeeet that players in hi-sec want to avoid. So much for a sand box where people can play the way the want eh? Not if you got Goon turds on the CSM ...

You have distorted and destroyed what Hi sec was supposed to be in many peoples opinions.

This is yet another BOHICA (Bend OVer Here It Comes Again) moment From CCP to the players of EVE.

This will severely damage the ability of single players and their alts to make ISK in the game by Running PI planets.

I can see one or two big corps, like the Merc corps, sweeping through vast areas of Empire, killing and replacing the POCOS, then taxing the single players out of existence. A 1-person corporation will have ZERO chance of declaring war on one of the bigger corps and taking down or taking back all the POCOs.

This move by CCP effectively Kills one aspect of the snigle player game in EVE. This is moving the game towards big corporations and more fighting. This is NOT a good thing for the single players and small corporations who depend upon PI as a primary source of income.

It is a crying shame that CCP cares so little for the players who truly enjoy ALL aspects of this game other than PvP.

I also have to ask: WHERE IS the CSM? After playing for several years, I am unconvinced that they are effectively representing our opinions. The only other alternative, which is more likely, is that CCP is simply not listening. This seems to be a pattern.

Thanks for NOTHING CCP.

This is yet another BOHICA (Bend OVer Here It Comes Again) moment From CCP to the players of EVE.

This will severely damage the ability of single players and their alts to make ISK in the game by Running PI planets.

I can see one or two big corps, like the Merc corps, sweeping through vast areas of Empire, killing and replacing the POCOS, then taxing the single players out of existence. A 1-person corporation will have ZERO chance of declaring war on one of the bigger corps and taking down or taking back all the POCOs.

This move by CCP effectively Kills one aspect of the snigle player game in EVE. This is moving the game towards big corporations and more fighting. This is NOT a good thing for the single players and small corporations who depend upon PI as a primary source of income.

It is a crying shame that CCP cares so little for the players who truly enjoy ALL aspects of this game other than PvP.

I also have to ask: WHERE IS the CSM? After playing for several years, I am unconvinced that they are effectively representing our opinions. The only other alternative, which is more likely, is that CCP is simply not listening. This seems to be a pattern.

Thanks for NOTHING CCP.

Judging by some of 'alliance' posts in here, it would seem that CCP is intent on bringing null-sec ego war to hi-sec.

In order to erect a new POCO for a corporation in high sec would standings with that empire be required?

Irony explosion.

Demon WAR Lords indeed.

This is yet another BOHICA (Bend OVer Here It Comes Again) moment From CCP to the players of EVE.

This will severely damage the ability of single players and their alts to make ISK in the game by Running PI planets.

I can see one or two big corps, like the Merc corps, sweeping through vast areas of Empire, killing and replacing the POCOS, then taxing the single players out of existence. A 1-person corporation will have ZERO chance of declaring war on one of the bigger corps and taking down or taking back all the POCOs.

This move by CCP effectively Kills one aspect of the snigle player game in EVE. This is moving the game towards big corporations and more fighting. This is NOT a good thing for the single players and small corporations who depend upon PI as a primary source of income.

It is a crying shame that CCP cares so little for the players who truly enjoy ALL aspects of this game other than PvP.

I also have to ask: WHERE IS the CSM? After playing for several years, I am unconvinced that they are effectively representing our opinions. The only other alternative, which is more likely, is that CCP is simply not listening. This seems to be a pattern.

Thanks for NOTHING CCP.

This is the exact kind of nul-sec sheeeeet that players in hi-sec want to avoid. So much for a sand box where people can play the way the want eh? Not if you got Goon turds on the CSM ...

There's a fairly small tax for the NPCs to prevent 0% havens and to guarantee lowsec POCOs are superior, but the gist of it is players now have the power to collect the bulk of the POCO transfer tax.

"you can still play how you want?" NO, you cant! No longer will small potato guys like me be able to conduct industry unfettered in HiSec, without the imposition of mega-alliances and/or large corps. I NEED PI to fund my other adventures! "Well, if you have to rely on PI, you're doing something wrong...." Bug off! Says YOU. This isn't more freedom: its more pandering to sociopaths to enable them to further coerce and manipulate other players who do not have the experience or the inclination to engage in conflict. Some people STAY in HiSec, and out of Lowsec or Null, precisely because they want to avoid sociopathic aggression.

This is just so typical: the older players who have ALREADY MADE THEIR FORTUNES now get to dump on newer players trying to get a little ahead... in space that should be a relative safe haven.

THIS is a bridge too far. TOO FAR.

No.

Well, it should be required.

Also, the NPC tax should be converted into a cost of operation for the owner of the POCO.

Instead of PI dude paying X% to NPC AND Y% to the POCO holder, the POCO holder should
pay the NPC cost, and build that into what they in turn charge the PI people to use their
POCO. This way if they set their tax too high and noone uses their POCO's they are on the
hook for the cost, thus preventing(or at least slowing) certain groups from holding HS POCO's
just to set unrealistic taxes with the intent of driving up certain material costs.

fyi

under this ridiculous suggestion

if the poco was not used

the npc tax bill to the pocohaver would be zero (0) isk

this would have a net change of precisely bupkis and would not serve to punish owning large numbers of pocos like you are poorly attempting to make happen

So, if you say, I dunno... wanted to hold all the lava planets in HS and lock everyone out to drive
up the resource prices, you should be paying through the nose to hold all those inactive POCO's.

Also, the NPC tax should be converted into a cost of operation for the owner of the POCO.

Instead of PI dude paying X% to NPC AND Y% to the POCO holder, the POCO holder should
pay the NPC cost, and build that into what they in turn charge the PI people to use their
POCO. This way if they set their tax too high and noone uses their POCO's they are on the
hook for the cost, thus preventing(or at least slowing) certain groups from holding HS POCO's
just to set unrealistic taxes with the intent of driving up certain material costs.

you already have because your POCO cost you 100m isk to make and upgrade. If no one uses it, you have 5, 10, 20% of sweet FA