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Judas Lonestar
Wormbro Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:00:00 -
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Bodb Derg wrote:Wow. You people need to chill out a bit. Name one other game company that would do anything like this for their players/. Yes it could have been done better but Jesus people .. .take a chill pill.
EA comes to mind. |

Maaloc
Iris Covenant The Gorgon Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:01:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote: It was a turkey shoot. There was 0, nada, nothing the people jumping into that camp could have done, as they had 0 warning there would be one, no time to coordinate and try to make a stand, and those who were coordinated, were stuck trying to get there via time dilation..
Zero warning? Seriously? You don't have to be a genius to realize that null-secs + this equals camps and player pirates.
As this guy from the Razor alliance said, did you expect candies in Doril? |

PrincessButtercup
Miners of Moria Corp
3
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:01:00 -
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all I can say is WoWP launches next week |

Thye
Sure Thing Logistics
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:07:00 -
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I joined this event on the Empire side. Jumping through 20 TiDi systems was tedious, but that didn't matter, because there was something exciting on the other end. However, the NPC/CCP FC ordered everyone through the gate before I got there, and then appeared to give questionable orders thereafter. When I eventually arrived in Ihal, the whole thing was over, so I just turned around and went home.
Had the NPC FC waited until they had the full fleet ready in Ihal, and then sent everyone through guns blazing, it probably would have been a more exciting event for everyone concerned. Yes, we may have died in large numbers still, but we would have got some decent kills in first. A smaller group could have used this as cover to move on towards the objective.
The NPC FC's orders were bad. I don't know whether this was deliberate on CCP's part, but the response is the same either way. In future events, don't listen to NPC FCs. If those of us in Empire space want to enjoy these events, we're going to need to get organised, with competent player FCs giving the orders, and large numbers of us ready to follow them. |

Liam Li
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
75
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:08:00 -
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Empire/Highsec people........... Welcome to the life of Nullsec. You guys strut around smug and whatnot in lowsec and null under conditions of a live event and expect that there is 0% risk involved of losing your ship and pod and expect that there will be no time dilation? |

Jaded One
Air Initiative Mercenaries
16
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:11:00 -
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Jean-Paul Hutchinson wrote:I think its funny how you low/null sec corps are gloating. Had CCP waited for the 2,000 pilots on the way to join the OP, you wouldnt have stud a chance
You are very mistaken
this ragtag group of 2000 noobs and carebears would have been massacred. its called range control.
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Kraschyn Thek'athor
Die..Brut
17
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:13:00 -
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Maaloc wrote:I
All these posts from people who learned the hard way what an organized null-sec fleet is made my morning.
Sorry, you are an Idiot. A prove that your recruting officer was right, that you are smart enough for F1 pvp and would do this monkey job easily.
The Nullsecs were organized, because they are attuned to be organized. The Highsec Corps and Alliances are smaller, there are no coalitions. If you are either from CCP or an 0.0 alliance and don't recognize this difference, you should quit this game.
If CCP would have done that right, they would have said. "This is a PVP event, please use PvP ships, we are to lazy to organize FC teams, please organise. You have 24 hours". And I guess we would have seen some shining moments of the Eve Community. FW FCs, retired FCs, junior FCs stepping up and organising. And when I see those numbers of the Highsecis, even without streamlined fitting, that would have been a blast of an fight. Such a clash would have been an epic moment. Worth telling, worth fighting, for both sides. Bringing pilots into PvP, giving them fun. This was poop **** pvp. (and I was in one of the organised fleets)
I cannot blame the Highsecis for the underinformativ posting for this event from CCP. Every drunken gank night fc I ever travelled with, gave better pre-organisation and execution. |

Doctor Fabulous MD
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:14:00 -
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in the immortal words of Roger Alan Wade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzksL5-jVbk |

Cpt Tenguru37
Cabbage Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:19:00 -
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I was in the carebear fleet... Worst fleet I have ever been in. You all were given the opportunity to bail before we jumped into the camp its not like no one knew it was there. No one calling targets, no logi, kitchen sink fleet including shuttles. The event was a disaster but I still had fun what did you all think was going to happen lol. Learn to burn outa bubbles faster! The major screw up was ccp changing staging systems we went from 1300 to 800 when we left. But hey I made it there got a few shots off at the structure. GF RZR :) |

Jaded One
Air Initiative Mercenaries
16
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:20:00 -
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ARCHANGEL DOWN.. I call Final Blow! |
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Corvald Tyrska
Dha'Vargar
22
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:20:00 -
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The NPC FCs were playing in character very well, i.e. Empire navy commanders who don't give a crap about the capsuleers following their instructions.
As I said in another thread on this if you lost your ship to a gatecamp it is entirely your fault, not the CCP FC. Would you fly a battleship through the Doril gate on any other day without scouting it out? If so come back tomorrow, there will be plenty of people waiting there to say hi.
The NPC FC gave instructions as to the destination. How you flew there was up to you. Taking the shortest path through Low/Null sec, from High sec, without scouting it out was stupid regardless of what the NPC said to do. If you plan to fly through these sort of systems at least use a cloaky ship otherwise go around or go in co-ordinated and prepared.
If you are going to completely entrust the safety of your ship and pod to a stranger in local chat, NPC Actor or not, who is telling you to jump into a Low/Null sec system then you deserve to lose it. I flew in a stealth bomber because I expected camps and trouble and I was able to fly through four of them without incident. Many other players flew around the camps to the destination systems.
All this event shows is that most EVE players need someone else to micromanage them and tell them how to think and act, otherwise they just fly to their deaths like a bunch of drunken lemmings. |

Maaloc
Iris Covenant The Gorgon Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:25:00 -
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Kraschyn Thek'athor wrote: Sorry, you are an Idiot. A prove that your recruting officer was right, that you are smart enough for F1 pvp and would do this monkey job easily.
Awww. But sorry, you are kinda mistaken: I come from a roaming alliance where pressing f1 and following every FC order is not that common. Plus I'm more of a logistics guy.
Quote:The Nullsecs were organized, because they are attuned to be organized. The Highsec Corps and Alliances are smaller, there are no coalitions.
Sounds like you wanna correct a mistake in my words, but you just said the same thing. Nullsecers were organized, they ignored the CCP's FCs and formed their own smaller fleets. Empire carebears who went on this event were nothing than a random rabble and they just met their well-expected sad end.
Quote:"This is a PVP event, please use PvP ships, we are to lazy to organize FC teams, please organise. You have 24 hours". And I guess we would have seen some shining moments of the Eve Community. FW FCs, retired FCs, junior FCs stepping up and organising. And when I see those numbers of the Highsecis, even without streamlined fitting, that would have been a blast of an fight. Such a clash would have been an epic moment. Worth telling, worth fighting, for both sides. Bringing pilots into PvP, giving them fun. You do realize that this would never happen? |

Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:27:00 -
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Corvald Tyrska wrote:The NPC FCs were playing in character very well, i.e. Empire navy commanders who don't give a crap about the capsuleers following their instructions.
As I said in another thread on this if you lost your ship to a gatecamp it is entirely your fault, not the CCP FC. Would you fly a battleship through the Doril gate on any other day without scouting it out? If so come back tomorrow, there will be plenty of people waiting there to say hi.
The NPC FC gave instructions as to the destination. How you flew there was up to you. Taking the shortest path through Low/Null sec, from High sec, without scouting it out was stupid regardless of what the NPC said to do. If you plan to fly through these sort of systems at least use a cloaky ship otherwise go around or go in co-ordinated and prepared.
If you are going to completely entrust the safety of your ship and pod to a stranger in local chat, NPC Actor or not, who is telling you to jump into a Low/Null sec system then you deserve to lose it. I flew in a stealth bomber because I expected camps and trouble and I was able to fly through four of them without incident. Many other players flew around the camps to the destination systems.
All this event shows is that most EVE players need someone else to micromanage them and tell them how to think and act, otherwise they just fly to their deaths like a bunch of drunken lemmings.
Yep shows I'm a loser and worthless. but then why would I care. |

BBQ FTW
The Hatchery Team Liquid
89
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:38:00 -
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if you came prepared to fight, it went pretty well, even if you weren't affiliated with the large blocs
I know of 2 separate 5 man groups that were quite successful at skirmishing against the large blobs flying around and killed some nice stuff, including some idiot goon who thought bubble camping in an HG slaved afterburner legion was a good idea. |

Le Petite More
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
67
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:40:00 -
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Just called to turn off my water because this spring of tears is going to be flowing for a while. |

ChYph3r
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
109
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:45:00 -
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I wasn't there do to my RL schedule, but from what I gather it was a slaughter of CCP bringing empire dwellers to null and it failed miserably.
To you Empire Dwellers, welcome to how we live in null, bubbles, gate camps, and TIDI. Your tears are the best tears ever! keep them flowing! |

Rhnra Pahineh
Organized-Chaos Apocalypse Now.
11
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:46:00 -
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Bodb Derg wrote:Wow. You people need to chill out a bit. Name one other game company that would do anything like this for their players/. Yes it could have been done better but Jesus people .. .take a chill pill. Well, I'm sorry to say that it was poorly done. Creating such events are hard, especially in a free environment like eve online. And I believe that's where CCP failed to forseen what could go on.
Essentially, when choice is given to the players, you just try to draw some basic lines then implement on what's going on. The first FAIL was the [Sarum Prime -> Ihal] travel that just locked out most of the people willing to attend the event.
The second issue was to push into a owned nullsec area. I mean, really, would the Empires stay still if one badass fleet entered their border with no announcement what so ever? They should have taken into account what they always tell us: eve is real, people do stuff and care about it. So of course the Empires can't do whatever they want anymore, they have to forge alliances with the new powers. They can't just "ask" publicly capsuleers to join, because there are a lot of people that doesn't like them. At all. If they want to get support, they have to know where to knock. A second point of view on this issue is that some people doesn't care about the lore and the event and just wanna fight. And that's the sandbox in all its glory: you can't control everything in a sandbox. And that's also because of that very fact that the eve players likes this game and invest in it in various ways: warrior, diplomats, leaders, ... I believe that if CCP want to do live event, they need real players to take care of them.
Other than that, I can't say because I was busy in Sendaya shooting at suspects. But I heard the Empire FC did some bad calls. Like traveling to a nullsec system instead to bridge in. I mean, really, doing that and telling everybody where we were going a day before is the same thing. You don't do a surprise attack like that. We are already trained to react fast, and on top of that everybody already knew that there were something brewing.
In conclusion of my flawed insight, all I have to say is: either you play the game or you don't. Toying around to introduce a new feature is kinda pointless. |

Tuxedo Catfish
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:51:00 -
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Kraschyn Thek'athor wrote: If CCP would have done that right, they would have said. "This is a PVP event, please use PvP ships, we are to lazy to organize FC teams, please organise. You have 24 hours".
This wouldn't have made any difference. Gee, a lore event happens in Syndicate and CCP announces a live event within the next day or two -- where did you think they were going to go? |

Bam Stroker
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
142
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:06:00 -
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Judas Lonestar wrote:Bam Stroker wrote:Jennifer Maxwell wrote:fire elf wrote:I only make sure that I have a diffrent game running so you can do something while you waiting for new targets to appear in your broadcast list or guns to cycle.
God you sound like a carebear. He's got 25x the number of kills you do. GTFO. Whoop de doo. In the 4 pages of kills I looked at he has all of 2 that have less that 10 on the killmail.
Who's talking about anyone's PvP skills? I didn't say anything about skills.
Dude One, who has less than 200 kills to his name called Dude Two who has over 4,000 kills a "carebear".
Forget about "skill", K:D ratios, efficiency, fleet sizes and all of that bullsh!t.
Just let that sink in. |

Maaloc
Iris Covenant The Gorgon Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:20:00 -
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Hm, some people say that during the event someone mentioned a wormhole with a GM orbiting it. Is that so? |
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Corvald Tyrska
Dha'Vargar
23
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:33:00 -
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It's hilarious that people who would never willing enter these systems on any other day because they are dangerous are upset that CCP didn't somehow make them not dangerous for the event.
Although the original news announcement about the event did not call it a PVP event the later one asking for capsuleers to fight for the pirates should have been a pretty bloody big red flag for anyone who thought it was going to be PVE.
CCP should not have taken any actions to make travelling to Null artificially safe, and rightfully they didn't. Five seconds after reaching the initial staging area in Meves it was obvious that the TIDI would be horrible. For the High sec jumps, set the autopilot and come back later. Or scan down a wormhole and look for a shortcut. Or go through other systems, a detour through an extra 5 systems would have been much faster due to the lack of TIDI in those systems.
The most important point though is that the random fleets that formed up still had someone leading them. That person is responsible for organizing and controlling the fleet. If your fleet jumped through to Low sec with half its members scattered across six systems and no scouting then take it up with the FC who organized the fleet. It is their fault, not CCP.
The entire event from the High sec side was a clusterfuck but not due to CCP. The fault lies entirely upon the players and their lack of co-ordination. If you want to run solo through a PVP event and survive then fly a bloody stealth bomber / recon cruiser / cloaky tech 3. |

Jeffy D
Imperial Interests Talons Of Blood
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:38:00 -
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I almost got washed away by the wave of carebear tears. Seriously though, this is funny as hell! CCP tells high sec pilots to go to null sec, they follow like lemmings and get slaughtered like them. What a massive and funny troll by CCP. |

Obama Drama
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:38:00 -
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Rhnra Pahineh wrote:[quote=Bodb Derg]
The second issue was to push into a owned nullsec area.
I can't hear anything you just said since this was NPC nullsec.
What'd you say bro? What? |

Rhnra Pahineh
Organized-Chaos Apocalypse Now.
11
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:41:00 -
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Corvald Tyrska wrote:The entire event from the High sec side was a clusterfuck but not due to CCP. The fault lies entirely upon the players and their lack of co-ordination. If you want to run solo through a PVP event and survive then fly a bloody stealth bomber / recon cruiser / cloaky tech 3. What you're saying is: CCP could simply have told the players (us) to go toward a nullsec system and have fun. In fact, the result would probably be the same. And, well, we don't really need them to tell us where to go to have fights.
However, I do agree with all your points. If your FC made mistakes, those are his/her fault alone. |

Rhnra Pahineh
Organized-Chaos Apocalypse Now.
11
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:42:00 -
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Obama Drama wrote:Rhnra Pahineh wrote:[quote=Bodb Derg]
The second issue was to push into a owned nullsec area. I can't hear anything you just said since this was NPC nullsec. What'd you say bro? What? Yes sorry, I revised my post but not thoroughly enough. That part slipped. (I'm going to correct that.) |

Irak Anstian
Hoover Inc. Black Legion.
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:44:00 -
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Heh. I love it when you hiseccers ball your eyes out. Welcome to the real version of EVE. I regret I wasn't around to get any kills. |

ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:53:00 -
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The PitBoss wrote:Subject says it all. Quote:Empire Navies put out call for capsuleer Assisantce 10% Tidi 5 j out to rally point (Sarum Prime) 10% Tidi the 16 j to the second rally point (Ihal) Tidi the few jumps to the last destination ... by then i was numb and not paying attention No real communication from gm/event host Lots of secrecy on locations apparently to keep people from ruining the event ONLY to include those people in the end. I want that hour of my life refunded to me  Good Job CCP ... NEXT time just open a wormhole and let people drop in PS: Please point me in the direction of this post to remind me why I shouldnt bother in another live event ...
10 percent at time sits like 1 percent man you came on a good day to a small fight hurry back :) |

ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:54:00 -
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Elfi Wolfe wrote:Corvald Tyrska wrote:The NPC FCs were playing in character very well, i.e. Empire navy commanders who don't give a crap about the capsuleers following their instructions.
As I said in another thread on this if you lost your ship to a gatecamp it is entirely your fault, not the CCP FC. Would you fly a battleship through the Doril gate on any other day without scouting it out? If so come back tomorrow, there will be plenty of people waiting there to say hi.
The NPC FC gave instructions as to the destination. How you flew there was up to you. Taking the shortest path through Low/Null sec, from High sec, without scouting it out was stupid regardless of what the NPC said to do. If you plan to fly through these sort of systems at least use a cloaky ship otherwise go around or go in co-ordinated and prepared.
If you are going to completely entrust the safety of your ship and pod to a stranger in local chat, NPC Actor or not, who is telling you to jump into a Low/Null sec system then you deserve to lose it. I flew in a stealth bomber because I expected camps and trouble and I was able to fly through four of them without incident. Many other players flew around the camps to the destination systems.
All this event shows is that most EVE players need someone else to micromanage them and tell them how to think and act, otherwise they just fly to their deaths like a bunch of drunken lemmings. Yep shows I'm a loser and worthless. but then why would I care. your not a loser or worthless.. |

ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:57:00 -
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Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:I don't know what you retards expected, this event was run by CCP. It was destined to be poorly thought-out, clunky, and ending in sadness and a sore *******. That's the CCP guarantee. in past ccp turns on their guard fleets anyways |

Starain
SoT DarkSide.
29
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:03:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqAIjcb-fk video from event DarkSide.+Gorgon Empire+Bright Side of Death vs Everyone and The Backstabbers^W Unthinkables Gathering all the pain on the way from heaven to hell: Sarum Prime - Doril - Hemin - RMOC-W Despite of fact that my ship is dead, that our fleet was backstabbed - at the end of video, time dilation from 5 to 25%, lags - it was COOL!
1. http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b9596/ 2. http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b9599/ 3. http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b9600/
Soundtrack: 1. Sagisu Shiro - The Ultimate Soldier ("EVANGELION:3.0"YOU CAN(NOT)REDO. DISC1) 2. Sagisu Shiro - Bataille d'Espace ("EVANGELION:3.0"YOU CAN(NOT)REDO. DISC2) |
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