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Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
74
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:38:00 -
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OldWolf69 wrote: Oh you baddie...
Says someone in a crap alliance and crap at pee-vee-pee.
If you got to shoot some defenceless carebears, there is no need to act so cool now. Calm down. |
Gabriel Asher
Liandri Corporation Liandri Covenant
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:38:00 -
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Like lambs to the slaughter.
I am actually not regretting missing this event, from the way it was handled, my time in Nullsec was actually enjoyable, especially during the fighting between the CFC and IT Alliance.
The last thing I wanted to bear witness to was a hopeless slaughter, Better to have goodfights than curbstomps in my opinion. |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:43:00 -
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Jack Mayhem wrote:OldWolf69 wrote: Oh you baddie... Says someone in a crap alliance and crap at pee-vee-pee. If you got to shoot some defenceless carebears, there is no need to act so cool now. Calm down. You kind sir seem a bit butthurt. Reading all your crusade on forums...eh, maybe not just a bit. You should relax, calm down. It's just a game. CCP did sh*t on ppl's fun? So what? |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
832
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:44:00 -
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KaRa DaVuT wrote:Well
Economy wont get bigger without consuming resources.. And who will buy new shiny PVE ships If you dont loose them like this..
Hell, your losses will help New Eden economy to get bigger.
Support the Empires even after your death
And who took a shiny to this...probably very few. I love reading your posts though, they're always so, ummm, informative? |
Titus Balls
Stay Frosty.
21
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:45:00 -
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OldWolf69 wrote:Carnip wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:Titus Balls wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:CCP knew what will happen. I bet they had a good laugh. So did we. I have absolutely no doubt about this. It's probably payback for all the moaning about CCP giving out free IWatch Scorpions to SOMER orly? "I live in lowsec and I love PvP - My sec status is near enough -10, and I went to FD- and 8J fully expecting to die - so please don't say I'm a highsec carebear just crying here." This really made my day. Who is this kid from ******* SMA (lol) with terrible killboard record? Why are you acting so tough now? Oh you baddie...
Well the fact of the matter is you'll see me out in Lowsec almost every night - from Black Rise down to Bleak Lands, out in a solo ship or as part of a small gang. I lived in Catch and Provi during one of the many wars - I lived in Curse for a while. Hell on another character I was even in Groon and lived in Syndicate when Pyrion Flax was FC.
I'm not PvP adverse, nor am I naive to the fact that there would be camps and blobs and that I would definitely die - these spaceships are only pixels.
My issue is there was NO communication or organisation from CCP, and the whole thing seemed like a setup so that goons could have a good laugh at the expense of the poor noobs in highsec.
If this was a lore event that CCP wanted everyone to join in they would have organised it in lowsec - no bubbles, only instalock camps which are fine - you have a chance of escaping them, and at least the gate guns would have given the noobs a chance.
Instead they basically funnelled everyone into goon space and sat back at their party and had a laugh. |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:48:00 -
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We should relax. After all CCP pretty trolled all playerbase this time. |
Jaffinator
Fairweather Ice Cream Co Insidious Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:49:00 -
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GOD RAZOR STOP BEING SO SMUG OKAY YOU BIG MEAN NULLBEARS GOSH
But for real, I think Razor and anyone else smugging around here is just doing it because of the tears. The delicious, delicious tears. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1148
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:49:00 -
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Genii Cucullati wrote:Abraham Nalelmir wrote:
And yeah, don't tell me welcome to null or pvp... I know both.
Welcome to null. Welcome to PVP.
Damn you're smart, you give classes? |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
833
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:50:00 -
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Titus Balls wrote:Instead they basically funnelled everyone into goon space and sat back at their party and had a laugh.
You missed out " and sat back at their party and had a laugh while watching the carnage on their big screens and projectors from the Mad_Ani stream".
Got that intel from Twitter...seems to be the best source of it these days in EVE Online.
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Genii Cucullati
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:56:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Genii Cucullati wrote:Abraham Nalelmir wrote:
And yeah, don't tell me welcome to null or pvp... I know both.
Welcome to null. Welcome to PVP. Damn you're smart, you give classes?
We start at 00:00, classes begin at the bottom of your nearest whiskey bottle. |
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Edam Neadenil
Bax Corporation
15
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:56:00 -
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It is worth noting that quite a few people in my fleet logged once the extent of the stuff up became obvious and went and fetched their null sec toons. (The idea that the game consists of two totally distinct groups, cool PvPers versus useless carebears is silly as many people have alts in both high and null)
The main concerns I have come across have nothing to do with dieing as most people did not get close enough to the action to actually die.
Major issues:
1. the initial change of location was ONLY anounced on twitter and many people including FCs thought this was more likely a twitter hack as nothing was said in game till much later.
2. Placing the original "fake" stage points next to major hubs meant the few rare in game CCP announcements were buried amongst spam as the hub spammers had moved over from Amarr and Dodi.
3. The very late confirmation of the event being predominantly PvP meant many people were stuck with ratting/incursion fits and could not leave their original "fake" staging system to swap to something more suitable without being locked out
4. Sending large fleets 30 jumps meant TIDI followed the fleets. For most of us it was impossible to cover the distance before the event got declared as over. Dieing was not an issue very few people got close enough to have the chance to die.
5. The long travel left FCs with a choice of either keeping fleet together and exasperating the TIDI or letting everyone travel in own time breaking up the fleet and making it hard to stay organised,
Overall though the main issue for my group had nothing to do with dieing in null ... it was the fact it was almost impossible to get there in the first place. (As stated earlier quite a few logged out and grabbed their goon or other null characters)
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Sneaky Jack
Kreetikal
1
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:57:00 -
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Ok I actually waited till today to post, going nuclear right of the bat is not my style .
I was left In charge of my fleet, and together with 764 people on a gate. It looked cool .. "Dandelion" comes to mind when looking at a gate holding so many players...and THAT was the ONLY interesting thing about this "EVENT"
now the best part is, we ...waited...and .. NOTHING happened.
- NO INFO - NO CCP presence - Utter confusion - Newbie Players expecting to see something worth the risk of losing their small little resources left wondering if playing WoW is better.
the TiDi was interesting, as a stress test for the nodes. the "EVENT" was also interesting as a social experiment on Player Stress with CCP
Now having said that, bare in mind that "this" was the LAST ever CCP organized whatever I attended, and you can count on me and a "few" other canceling our plans for ccp fanfest 2014.
It seems CCP is back to the good o'l days of "helping" goon
nevertheless a question begs to be asked... WTF WAS THAT ?????????? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING????
the answer is Simple : BURN JITA BURN ! |
Genii Cucullati
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:00:00 -
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You not showing up to Fanfest?
Well, gimme your ticket. I'll rep you properly by closing my eyes and running headfirst into an ice sculpture, and then find the nearest manager to tell them that my head's cold. |
SMI2LE
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:02:00 -
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what did you expected in null? some rainbow-sh***ng-unicorns? one does not simply go to hell and expect virgins |
Genii Cucullati
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:05:00 -
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SMI2LE wrote:what did you expected in null? some rainbow-sh***ng-unicorns? one does not simply go to hell and expect virgins
In my hell, there'd be virgins. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1505
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:07:00 -
[436] - Quote
On the brighter side, for the next 'live event' TiDi should not be an issue for the three people daft enough to take part in it. |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
124
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:09:00 -
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I didn't take part in this event because of the time, and I'm glad I didn't.
To me it's glaringly obvious that CCP basically set up thousands of players to be the helpless victims of the largest gank in the history of EVE.
This is going to backfire badly on CCP.
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Kay Charante
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:15:00 -
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Is any one rage quitting eve after this massive tear feast ? If so can we have you stuff.
O wait lol seem to have got a lot of it yesterday
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Anubis Aureus
Eagles of Wenin
20
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:19:00 -
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SMI2LE wrote:what did you expected in null? some rainbow-sh***ng-unicorns? one does not simply go to hell and expect virgins
People call it "fun" Beeing slaughtered is no fun for most people. What did YOU expected from the HighsecCarebears? If you -after 22 sites- still are unable understand that the fewst "cries" about the fact THAT they did die instead HOW they died i guess its pointless to argue anyway.
People did expect fun. Something MEANINGFULL. Something special. Every highsec-carebear can go to a low/nullsec gatecamp and die there, thats nothing special. |
DarklordKarn
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
25
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:19:00 -
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I had a amazing time killing these gate campers :D
op success o7 |
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Abraham Nalelmir
V I R I I Ineluctable.
15
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:27:00 -
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Genii Cucullati wrote:You went into nullsec.
"Sec" stands for "security."
"Null" stands for "zero."
Live event or no, you went into a region that literally had no security.
It's nullsec, gentlemen. The gods will not save you. Thanks for telling me the obvious! I really did not know nullsec means zero security!, and it had literally no security.
1 isk will be transferred to you as a pay for this great service you are doing by telling people that was a nullsec!
Quote:Welcome to null.
Welcome to PVP.
No point of talking anymore...
o7 |
Genii Cucullati
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
1
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:29:00 -
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Abraham Nalelmir wrote:Genii Cucullati wrote:You went into nullsec.
"Sec" stands for "security."
"Null" stands for "zero."
Live event or no, you went into a region that literally had no security.
It's nullsec, gentlemen. The gods will not save you. Thanks for telling me the obvious! I really did not know nullsec means zero security!, and it had literally no security. 1 isk will be transferred to you as a pay for this great service you are doing by telling people that was a nullsec! Quote:Welcome to null.
Welcome to PVP. No point of talking anymore... o7
OP SUCCESS |
Zero-G
The Romantics
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:30:00 -
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I almost made it to the first losec entrance before the event was declared over. Jumping 20 systems at 10% TiDi is so much fun.
CCP, it would have been nice to know beforehand that...
- this was a PVP/0.0 event. (So one could have brought a clean clone and a cheap ship from the beginning.)
- the real staging point was Ihal. (Could have saved 1-2 hours of pointless travel.)
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Andrea Keuvo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:35:00 -
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Normally I just ignore these events because it's not worth jumpcloning to hisec for a day to participate in some scripted event. But I had a newish alt and against my better judgement I went to participate in this event from the hisec side. Going into the event my expectations of CCP were very low and consisted of nothing more than:
1. I would be able to arrive in the system where the event was happening
2. I would get my ship blown up fighting other players in the event (nobody really cares about pre-scripted lore based event outcome)
Sadly, CCP failed to deliver on even these low expectations. Rather than have the event in a 0.5 and just flag all participants in system as criminals or use titan/WH transport to the desto system they chose to have everyone form up in hisec and then travel thru tidi thru known camped systems to the nullsec destination, getting everyone instablapped in the bubble camps along the way. I don't think anyone really cares that they died, I think the problem is they feel their time was completely wasted by CCP. The event was "organized" in a way that made it almost impossible to participate in the actual event.
Oh well, at least I was able to confirm that it's not worth participating in these events.
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fudface
ACME-INC
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:39:00 -
[445] - Quote
how about a comment from ccp?
even if its hahahahahah we got you :)
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Pyrra Helius
PrimeTech Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:42:00 -
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I read the original announcement. It looked exciting. Explosion in wormholes, strange information. This appeared like a great story to follow up on. Looked too good to be true. A co-op fleet? In EVE? Get serious!
Well, I decided to give it the benefit of a doubt.
I fitted a nice sniping BS to be able to enjoy the view.
Then the 2nd announcement arrives almost last moment. The event had written "fail" all over it. Reminded me of a tactic CCP followed more than 6 years ago that led an average of 60k logged ppl a day to fall down to 21k. It was bound to happen again.
I left the BS aside, mounted a tanky BC and went to Meves to make up my mind; see if it was worth it. CCP appeared in a godlike capsule (mounted with a doomsday device) issuing instructions on local, amidst a chaos of chatter. I decided not to join, but follow and observe. It was very obvious where this was headed. The map data showed that clearly. I enjoyed the TiDi as it gave me time to make a cup of coffee and read the local chatter. I didn't suffer the pain of the Ihal people, so I shouldn't complain.
Reaching the staging area of hacmon or something, can't remember it for the life of me, there were just scattered people. Still fleets. Info was erratic at best. Naturally there were the null infiltrators trying to inform their alliance corpies what's going on. A few saw the stars holding something different than their flying stick, since all technology was removed from around them.
So I started moving around systems, seeing disbanded fleets everywhere. I had no idea Ihal was coming down as well (from the totally other side of empire space). I feel bad for those people. So I headed back, reading curses on local. The storm had already begun.
Originally, the energy of the people flying together was fun. It would have been a good fight had CCP exhibited elementary organization skills. But that didn't happen. Perhaps their software is not ready for something like this.
EVE is not a game, it's a scifi life simulator. If in real life there was such bad organization like last night's experience, I don't think there are words good enough to describe the outcome.
Kudos to CCP for their technical and graphical skills. Unfortunately, I can't extend it further. Organizational & leadership skills under pressure and tight timelines is not a common trait. But I expected better choices when it comes to something of this magnitude. What happened was simply poor and immature.
From the 900 people of Meves, maybe 200 entered nullsec. I lived in the zero zone for some time in the past. Flying there with a ghost of a fractured and disorganized fleet through a chokepoint is just madness. I'm just sad of the uproar this will bring and I am seriously beginning to think that Rubicon will be a move toward a very wrong direction.
I feel lucky as I eventually spent less than a couple of hours flying. It was good social time, but in my opinion, everyone should have left the moment the "officials" started announcing "directions" over twitter. That was not organizing, that was a public photo-shoot saying "hey, look how cool I am"! Thankfully, some fleet commanders were smart enough to send people home and save them further disappointment.
Some maturity an professionalism does not hurt, CCP. Actions like this impact on a very sensitive body-part: the pocket. And I have good reason for using the word "body-part".
Until next time. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
239
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:43:00 -
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I think they kept staging points secret so that 0.0 entities wouldn't log off supers/place cynos for pipebombing etc. It's a fair choice - the same happened to people that joined in to support the pirates. We initially got into FD- if I remember correctly, then moved by gates to 8V-. Our route was much shorter however, and we didn't experience any tidi.
Still, hisec->nullsec would is usually a longer way anyway. Maybe CCP should've broken out Faction Titans or something, bridge people out close? Give empire people a chance to drop from a Titan.
That said, I can't help but feel smug and throw in the obligatory "Welcome to nullsec". Also come to the dark side, we have cookies? |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1766
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:47:00 -
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Just dropping in to say thanks for giving us this feedback. We haven't had time to go through it all yet, but we will be doing so as a team and taking a lot of points on board to shape our work in the future. We will also be explaining some things to clear up some misunderstandings we have been noticing. Thanks for your time and patience. |
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Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
124
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:48:00 -
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Fourteen Maken wrote:Dear Nul people
Nobody cares about losing their ships, everyone that went to the event expected their ship would get blown up. It didn't matter if it was happening in high, low, or nul it was always going to end in a free for all, so stop congratulating yourselves, its a bit sad taking the credit for this. By the time we got the length of your fleets we were strung out half way across empire space and most just wanted to get blown up so the whole stupid ordeal would be over. A lot of people self destructed before jumping into nul, I thought I'd jump in and have a few seconds of action after all the time I wasted getting there because I had nothing to lose, but after reading the hollow boasting on here I see why people would rather not give you the satisfaction of a kill report. Your not the ones harvesting tears here, we were trolled by CCP, i'd just like to know why a company that wants to stay in business thinks it's a good idea to troll their own customers?
This whole event was staged to make high sec players into cannon fodder for nulsec alliances, they did everything possible to ensure we would be completely helpless when we got there, and they made sure we didn't know we were going to nulsec until it was too late to turn back. I'm disgusted tbh
This basically,
CCP stitched you all up.
Arf! |
SMI2LE
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:50:00 -
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Anubis Aureus wrote:SMI2LE wrote:what did you expected in null? some rainbow-sh***ng-unicorns? one does not simply go to hell and expect virgins People call it "fun" Beeing slaughtered is no fun for most people. What did YOU expected from the HighsecCarebears? If you -after 22 sites- still are unable understand that the fewst "cries" about the fact THAT they did die instead HOW they died i guess its pointless to argue anyway. People did expect fun. Something MEANINGFULL. Something special. Every highsec-carebear can go to a low/nullsec gatecamp and die there, thats nothing special.
pretty sure a lot of player had a lot of fun yesterday. belive me, what you have done IS meaningfull, it is realy special. for us.
p.s. entering 0.0 you had died anyway so enjoy your temporary importance to New Eden |
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