Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 [18] 19 20 30 40 .. 45 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 12 post(s) |

Black Canary Jnr
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
37
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:04:00 -
[511] - Quote
ALPHA flyorDie wrote:1 and last event I will ever do Thanks ccp for nothing I wasted 5 hours just to get dc and dropped from fleet for 20 mins and then have to fly back to hi sec wasted time wasted sp and all the tidi THANKS
I WANT MY SP BACK FOR THIS WASTED EVENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you CCP FOR making me rage I will never do a event you hold agin!
Hands up, which idiots lost SP from not updating their clones?
And who brought their shiny ratting ships out?
No sympathy for the chumps, they saw the low sec warning and continued.
Bad plan on CCPs part having everyone go through so many systems.
|

Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1342
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:05:00 -
[512] - Quote
Something tells me I missed another live event due to being USTZ...
Something tells me that I didn't miss much and CCP petition que is overloaded by now... |

Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
128
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:08:00 -
[513] - Quote
CCP Goliath wrote:Carnip wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Just dropping in to say thanks for giving us this feedback. We haven't had time to go through it all yet, but we will be doing so as a team and taking a lot of points on board to shape our work in the future. We will also be explaining some things to clear up some misunderstandings we have been noticing. Thanks for your time and patience. "Misunderstandings we have been noticing"?? Is it the same arrogant CCP that was pre-Incarna? You guys do realize that you can't afford that, with flat userbase for last several years and no big feature coming in Rubicon? You misunderstood my intent. I wanted to make the posters in this thread aware that we are not ignoring what they're saying, we just haven't gotten around to taking it all in yet. From what I have been reading so far, there are a lot of extremely valid criticisms and suggestions for positive turnarounds in the future. There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement.
How many alts do you have in the CFC? |

Sladislov
Broski North Black Legion.
28
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:09:00 -
[514] - Quote
Thank you ccp for now also directly messing with your playerbase.
10/10 i love you |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
233
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:09:00 -
[515] - Quote
Celia Therone wrote:Octoven wrote:The only other comment I have is for players knowing if it were null sec run. We certainly knew that, I flipping knew that thats why my omen had a MJD, The time the announced you could fight with the pirates and the empires were taking an offensive action against pirates, and the two null systems as pirate staging areas...those are all common sense clues. If no one understood that...thats their own fault. I am pretty sure that your Omen did not have a MJD. The Omen being a cruiser and the MJD module being limited to battleships, black ops and marauders?
You are correct I intended on saying MWD...so many acronymns its easy to get turned round :P an error in posting :D |

Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
190
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:11:00 -
[516] - Quote
Andrea Keuvo wrote:Cheesy Feet wrote:Malception wrote:OMG, this is great! CCP, I wasn't even there, but I've been laughing my ass off all morning, so by all means continue these. In the future you should do more to ensure that all the bears believe they'll be safe then allow them to be slaughtered more. For the love of God, please lead them into wormhole space. Too many escaped the wrath of the nullsec fleets. We must have total annihilation!
BOB WILLS IT!!! What a plank! If only a few hundred players quit because of this then that's less potential targets to shoot for the rst of us and you think that's funny? I wasn't anywhere near this disaster but it's still a nail in EVE's coffin as far as I'm concerned As a nullsec player, I really don't understand why other nullsec players aren't looking at it this way.
Don't live in highsec and I very much agree! If the idea was to show these players that Eve outside of highsec is much more fun, this event failed miserably at that, and that is a very bad thing for both highsec and 0.0 players. Good goal, disastrously poor execution.
To use a vulgar metaphor, this event and a lot of the 0.0 reaction to it, was like raping a lesbian to convince her she likes c$%* and then while she lies crying in the corner telling you she hated it, you laughingly tell her she thought it was fun and HTFU. Regardless of what a lot of people in 0.0 seem to think, that's not going to make her run out and find a boyfriend! |

ALPHA flyorDie
Latitude 45
6
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:13:00 -
[517] - Quote
Black Canary Jnr wrote:ALPHA flyorDie wrote:1 and last event I will ever do Thanks ccp for nothing I wasted 5 hours just to get dc and dropped from fleet for 20 mins and then have to fly back to hi sec wasted time wasted sp and all the tidi THANKS
I WANT MY SP BACK FOR THIS WASTED EVENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you CCP FOR making me rage I will never do a event you hold agin! Hands up, which idiots lost SP from not updating their clones? And who brought their shiny ratting ships out? No sympathy for the chumps, they saw the low sec warning and continued. Bad plan on CCPs part having everyone go through so many systems.
i was talking about clone jumping to a empty clone and loss sp from the lack of implants i did not die in the event just went 25 jumps in ti di and wasted 5 hours to get dc when i was 1 jump into null and then could not relog for 20 mins so i missed the fight and to me it was a wast of time and sp |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
233
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:21:00 -
[518] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Just dropping in to say thanks for giving us this feedback. We haven't had time to go through it all yet, but we will be doing so as a team and taking a lot of points on board to shape our work in the future. We will also be explaining some things to clear up some misunderstandings we have been noticing. Thanks for your time and patience. Movements announced on Twitter? So, I now need a Twitter account to fully participate in Eve Online? As they say in the industry I work in when it all starts to go pear shaped...Back to Basics. Eve Online is a computer game first and foremost. Twitter, jeez...
Just to clarify you don't NEED a twitter account to view tweets posted by eve devs. They are fully public viewed just as this website is. The fact that you have no idea of it is irrelevant. After all if we follow your logic then this website is not NEEDED to play a game either, it (like twitter) is a means of disseminating useful news and information. Only a tweet is far much faster to deliver than posting on a web site.
O'drwex Dythoni wrote:CCP. Next time make a twitch stream out of it. or atleast a pre-recorded video. maybe some stat cams on the stream where you expect ppl to be meatgrinded. But not a DAMN TWIT, information and communication was the lamest ever, ppl barely knew what to do. This so called ' event ' wasnt worth my time, but i was verry excited about it before it started.
-note. i survived this event, so i'm not crying about a few bil loss-
Twitter is a universal means of viewing information. Having 4-5 official streams up only serves to confuse the population as to which is which and what they need to watch. Instead they could all view one site and read a short 160 character message to get the information. I would rather them not have streamed this, having multiple streams going is a bad idea. You may tune into the stream AFTER the message was stated and not know still. At least a tweet is in black and white text and people can read as they come to the site, instant information. |

Jamison
Southern Gothic
19
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:26:00 -
[519] - Quote
CCP Goliath wrote:Carnip wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Just dropping in to say thanks for giving us this feedback. We haven't had time to go through it all yet, but we will be doing so as a team and taking a lot of points on board to shape our work in the future. We will also be explaining some things to clear up some misunderstandings we have been noticing. Thanks for your time and patience. "Misunderstandings we have been noticing"?? Is it the same arrogant CCP that was pre-Incarna? You guys do realize that you can't afford that, with flat userbase for last several years and no big feature coming in Rubicon? You misunderstood my intent. I wanted to make the posters in this thread aware that we are not ignoring what they're saying, we just haven't gotten around to taking it all in yet. From what I have been reading so far, there are a lot of extremely valid criticisms and suggestions for positive turnarounds in the future. There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement.
Lets take a look at some of the times involved with this live event.
Say for the sake of argument there were 1300 players (a conservative number in my opinion) that had to travel for 2 hours each, total of 2600 man hours spent.
1 person goes to work for 8 hours a day for 1 year and doesn't take a day off, total 2080 man hours spent.
Amount of time the live team spent on this event "I had the strangest dream last night, we should fly a bunch of highsec players into nul, I don't have any reason why, lets just tell them its a secret when we get there" |

Veldar Reku
Wu Xi Holdings
4
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:26:00 -
[520] - Quote
CCP, really??
- carebears wouldn't even have the capability of setting up their overviews as to know who is friendly and who is shooting them
- TiDi warping 25 jumps..... why?
Advice:
- actively lead the fleets with NPC toons
- . have supers and caps, even if nothing else, as a distraction for the 0.0 people and use them to shoot any enemy caps that drop in (for the lols)
- use titans to bridge cabears into 0.0
But above all, tell carebears what alliances are defending the enemy system so they can at very least set standings to shoot appropriate people..
They will all die anyway, but at least it will not be soo terrible. Entertainment is being part of a fight and the longer you survive, the more fun it is. What happened was anti-fun and completely opposite of how Luminaire event was planned and executed.
|
|

Del Vikus
Gradient Electus Matari
85
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:26:00 -
[521] - Quote
CCP Goliath wrote:You misunderstood my intent. I wanted to make the posters in this thread aware that we are not ignoring what they're saying, we just haven't gotten around to taking it all in yet. From what I have been reading so far, there are a lot of extremely valid criticisms and suggestions for positive turnarounds in the future. There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement.
Thanks for your note. In order to correct the perceived misunderstandings and lack of information, it would be best if you issued your clarifications in as many channels as possible -- including your social media. Because there is a lot of grief going on about this, and if you have an explanation or a clarification or an apology to make, it's best to get the word out ASAP and as publicly as possible.
Of course, continued silence will perpetuate the perception that this was WAI. |

Optimus Junkis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:26:00 -
[522] - Quote
Maybe CCP should start with mining events of 6 - 12 people and work there way up from there.
I mean it's apparent they can't organize anything of any real size. |

David Kir
Statement of Intent
312
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:26:00 -
[523] - Quote
Didn't think CCP would come up with more ways to drive players away from PVP and nullsec. |

Killerjock
Von Neumann Industries
18
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:28:00 -
[524] - Quote
Fourteen Maken wrote:What we got was thousands of uninformed, and unprepared pubbies funneled into nulsec gate camps to be humiliated. If it had been done properly I would have went with the fleet got popped, immediately re shipped and tried to find another fleet so i could get back into it, instead of a few hundred kills nul seccers might have had thousands of kills and almost everyone would have been happy.
I second this and I think it's a very precise description. After two hours of being fooled around I got popped and went off. Waited out my timer and logged off to do something that at least felt meaningful. If I had a chance to actually FIGHT, I would've taken another ship and gone back.
Also, CCP_Goliath: to be honest I don't think you're making it any better. The comments so far have been a blatant praise on the least informative or representative post in the bunch, and some cookie dropped here to say "hey we're reading". Nice and well, but there have been some pretty bad accusations against CCP for this event and I for one would really love to see what the fart was in your minds - lambs to the slaughter seems more and more appropriate the more i read on. As mentioned, I am pretty much ready to be humiliated by players who actually have the same chances I have and show to be better; much less ready to be the fool for people I pay. Much beyond the "lesson learnt" post, I want CCP to state right out why the worked the event like they did and what goal did it serve. And if the **** up is as big as it looks, apologies would be in order. I for one will respect a "we botched it sorry" much more than a "well it wasn't that bad" or any other marketing attempt.
Don't get me wrong - you've got a great game and CCP is doing better than any game company I've had the misfortune to deal with (Cryptic gets the prize for the most incompetent, imbecile, annoying one). But this... has been annoying. |

z Flint
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
21
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:29:00 -
[525] - Quote
Found the Event to be one big cluster.
First event attended.
Last event attended.
|

Maaloc
Iris Covenant The Gorgon Empire
9
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:30:00 -
[526] - Quote
CCP Goliath wrote:Carnip wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Just dropping in to say thanks for giving us this feedback. We haven't had time to go through it all yet, but we will be doing so as a team and taking a lot of points on board to shape our work in the future. We will also be explaining some things to clear up some misunderstandings we have been noticing. Thanks for your time and patience. "Misunderstandings we have been noticing"?? Is it the same arrogant CCP that was pre-Incarna? You guys do realize that you can't afford that, with flat userbase for last several years and no big feature coming in Rubicon? You misunderstood my intent. I wanted to make the posters in this thread aware that we are not ignoring what they're saying, we just haven't gotten around to taking it all in yet. From what I have been reading so far, there are a lot of extremely valid criticisms and suggestions for positive turnarounds in the future. There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement. Can't blame you, it's not your fault that some people can't read or put 3 latest reports on community.eveonline.com together. |

Jaiiny
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:30:00 -
[527] - Quote
aFETR WE WNET TO SEE THEM AT LAG FLYING BLOODING GATES!
I MEANER WTF DID I EO THIS THING HERE.
NO THANING YOU CECEP GET OUT
REALLY? NO BOTHER FOR US!      |

Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
144
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:33:00 -
[528] - Quote
David Kir wrote:Didn't think CCP would come up with more ways to drive players away from PVP and nullsec. I think you might like the irony that this was run right after New Player Training Session that had combat basics as its theme. In the end of it new players were encouraged to join in the event, with CCP Eterne telling that 90% would probably survive it. I suppose he had inkling that the event would end before the new players would get to low/null. |

Killerjock
Von Neumann Industries
18
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:33:00 -
[529] - Quote
Octoven wrote:Twitter is a universal means of viewing information. Having 4-5 official streams up only serves to confuse the population as to which is which and what they need to watch. Instead they could all view one site and read a short 160 character message to get the information. I would rather them not have streamed this, having multiple streams going is a bad idea. You may tune into the stream AFTER the message was stated and not know still. At least a tweet is in black and white text and people can read as they come to the site, instant information.
What about some in game spread of information? like, calendar, evegate, liveevent channel, whateverthefuck is pertaining to the game we're playing instead of some half-assed attempt at communicating through a social media that isn't part and parcel of the EVE experience. The fact it's public it's perfectly irrelevant: you have to be on twitter and following CCP to be aware of their tweets, whether they are public or not. |

disasteur
Tellcomtec Industries.
210
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:34:00 -
[530] - Quote
Jaiiny wrote:aFETR WE WNET TO SEE THEM AT LAG FLYING BLOODING GATES! I MEANER WTF DID I EO THIS THING HERE. NO THANING YOU CECEP GET OUT REALLY? NO BOTHER FOR US!      
translation request :) |
|

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11971
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:38:00 -
[531] - Quote
This thread is pretty amazing. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11971
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:41:00 -
[532] - Quote
#grrrrgoons
#420yoloswag4jesus |

David Kir
Statement of Intent
312
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:44:00 -
[533] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:#grrrrgoons
#420yoloswag4jesus
Smearing ***** all over your face ironically doesn't mean you won't stink of manure. |

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
358
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:45:00 -
[534] - Quote
I went with the blob from Meves.
It was really poor, and my take on it is that CCP missed a chance to get people (from all of Eve) excited about the new content in Rubicon.
Some critical mistakes / suggestions:
1. Starting in High Sec - and then moving to a staging point still in High Sec while we suffer 10% TiDi is nothing but a demonstration of how bad the game is when lots of players actually want to be in the same system.
2. Communication - the Orders/ Aims / Objectives of each fleet at All - Some guy in local in yellow saying 'go here' is crud - Make a channel with orders/commands text from the Event actors etc only - dont let people talk in that channel so communication is clear [If you dont want to do voice comms].
3. Allowing players to actually see the new content (event site) - Using either a wormhole or jump bridge and then perhaps a minute or 5 cease fire in the target location (ghost site or whatever so people can see the new content) before letting all hell break lose at least would make people welping stuff feel like they had seen something worthwhile.
There were many more minor issues, but those are the main ones.
I lost a Navy Omen and knew i would - I have no issue with that. The issue I have is that the event (and some previous events I've been to) was a complete waste of time - didn't get to see anything in the Ghost Site I warped into before being instapopped - didn't have any idea of what we were supposed to be doing other than 'head here' commands coralling us in for a turkey shoot. All the while taking up 3-4 hours of my play time.
I can understand all the rage of those folks new to the game or events especially - it really was a terrible experience for the majority when they probablty had high hopes of a 'Rubicon' teaser event . After 8 years playing I didn't expect much to be honest, but was still left disappointed. Cheers. |

Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
836
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:58:00 -
[535] - Quote
The best LIVE Event so far that CCP have organised that everyone in EVE could be a part of with no TiDi or Null Blocs screwing people over was...
* Drum Roll Please *
Sanctuary Image Contest
That's because:
1) CCP had no involvement other than posting clear concise information in an organised form in good time 2) CCP had no involvement 3) CCP had no involvement 4) You can see where it's going...
I only completed Week 1 but it was a lot of fun...and all because CCP had no involvement other than posting clear concise information in an organised form in good time.
EDIT:
Oh and that you had 7 days to complete your objectives so you weren't hitting the same systems\gates\areas all at the same time like lambs to the slaughter like last nights farce. I'd suggest that CCP run LIVE Events like this but extend the time from 7 days to 30 days. This will:
1) Give all players a chance to complete\participate\compete 2) Discourage Null Blocs to permanently camp a route that maybe published 3) Extends LIVE Events so you could have several going on without any interaction with CCP required as we seem to be quite sure that this is what works best. Capsuleers, we'll do our thing and CCP can just do theirs. It's a formula that works I think |

Andvari Hljomalind
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:58:00 -
[536] - Quote
As usual, NullSec circle-jerks en masse while missing the point entirely ^_^
The idea of a collision between HighSec and NullSec players and npcs is an interesting premise, albeit a daunting one!
The idea of hundreds of players arriving in a staging system, on time, and traveling for hours to find that the event ended long before they could arrive? C'mon guys, really.
I prefer constructive criticism, so off the top of my head:
1) For events of this scale, treat time-dilation as an inevitability, not a possibility. To me, there is no shame in acknowledging reasonable technical limitations.
2) If the nodes can't be reinforced in time for something like this, consider distributing the load. Pirate factions are dispersed throughout New Eden - had this scenario played out in 4 - 6 different locations, with varied mixes of Empire and Pirate npcs at each, I think it could have been really great. More like a coordinated Interpol takedown operation, less like 2000 Jack Bauers charging into Mogadishu with a handgun and no cell service.
3) Never, EVER, change the venue an hour before the party. Nothing good will come of it.
That's my 2 Isk anyway. I appreciate the intent, the process just needs to be examined! More planning, less improve!
All the same, thanks for your efforts CCP! |

Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
244
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 17:16:00 -
[537] - Quote
Alright, since CCP is actually monitoring this thread let's not lead to a situation where only crying is heard, all right?
First of all - the bad:
- Making a lengthy route through tidi for the hisec force. It's bad, alright - 0.0 folk that are used to tidi may prefer fighting in tidi to blackscreening, but "HEY CHECK IT OUT I'M WARPING SLOMO!" gets old after three jumps. Let alone twenty. - Communication, from what I've heard - even EVE Voice or a moderated channel where only FCs post. Comms are crucial to fleet operation.
Second of all: The good.
I'll just be frank: CCP let us play the way we want to play. It wasn't a scripted event where wtfpwn ships spawn to blap us all off the field. We were informed of the incoming hisec-supporting fleets and chose to form up to, to quote, "Punch CONCORD in the spacehorse". We weren't stopped for the sake of sightseeing or rigging the event.
They didn't sweeten what nullsec is, no cherry on top of a big pile o' hurt. Sort of, 'welcome to null, empire dwellers. This is what awaits your little empires when they overstep their bounds'.
Plus, hey, it was hilariously fun! People who survived on our side report fun was present. People who died report that despite dying, they had fun and would have fun again gladly.
The ugly:
Timeeezooooneeeeees.
It's unavoidable, really. You can't run this on a weekend night because CCP is a company - if you're working 9-to-5 on EVE every day for a week, you're probably playing something else on weekend or spending time with your family instead. Still it very much sucks that a lot of USTZ folks missed the event. (We had two lucky guys that are US and could attend, one got himself an Aurora/Slave pod but that leaves a lot of people behind.) |

Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
38411
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 17:17:00 -
[538] - Quote
Lotta love in this thread.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Rubicon the beginning of breaking away ties from the factions?
*Looks at calendar....yep, Rubicon comes out in a week or so.*
*Looks at the NPC Actor actions and saw how they hung the players out to dry*
One would think that those kooky viking devs were setting the factions up for some hostility.
Go figure. |

LexaLloyd II
Adversity.
0
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 17:19:00 -
[539] - Quote
Haven't had this great of a read on the forums since the welcome Mintchip Dev thread. Keep the tears coming!
 |

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
86
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 17:21:00 -
[540] - Quote
Nice fun killing off the Concord defenders slowboating through lowsec for them to never arrive at their destination. Some pretty good kills/massacres to be had.
However, from a story point of view, this was utter crap and CCP should feel very bad about it. Nothing story-relevant happened or was allowed to happen because of CCP's inability to let only appropriate people know about what was going to happen. Hanging a lantern on such a story-driven event is just a big invitation sign for CFC and other 00-densities to mess up the Event. Moreover, not reinforcing the route to the destinations and letting people travel dozens of jumps in highest Tidi is a thing that CCP should have avoided. Amarr was population capped with only 1,000 people in local, for example. This is unacceptable. Again: CCP should feel bad for this major wastage of time and for deliberately feeding players to stupid other players who have no intention to allow good gameplay.
-1 for this. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 [18] 19 20 30 40 .. 45 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |