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Anize Oramara
S T R A T C O M Critical-Mass
48
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:50:00 -
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haha I bet if CCP tried to lead a bunch of unprepared hisec care bears to null to purposefully get them ganked by nullsec gate camps they wouldn't have as much success as they had here.
Magnificent job CCP. Something like this could only have come about by supreme incompetence. Remember, never attribute to malice that witch can be attributed to incompetence. |

disasteur
Tellcomtec Industries.
212
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:54:00 -
[572] - Quote
Killerjock wrote:disasteur wrote:yes u want a free ticket, u trusted CCP it means ur either stupid or just a noob, u went willingly to null and believed it was lag free to,dude get a live but maybe not in eve cus it seems no the to be the right place for you So, when you have no further arguments you lose your spelling ability too? I hope you're not a native speaker  . TIDI was just part of the problem. What most people complain about is that we ended up stranded through half the empire without any clear indication as to the objective of it all. We spent hours roaming without any clue. I heard there were NPCs and a station - HEARD it; I couldn't get there in time. Most of us did not. There has been no event for us - I don't give a damn about the 20m rax I flew in, it was a casualty the moment i undocked, and it was cheap for that reason. I'd have liked to be at the event, but couldn't. That's what I'm complaining about: I spent hours of my time for... nothing. There was nothing to do except making people happy for another killmail - 24 T3 ships killing a 20m thorax.... will surely change a killboard ;) As per my life, I suggest you stick to what you know - I understand it's a narrow enough space - instead of commenting on things you obviously know nothing about 
kudos for your nice insults, i hope you have fun on the next event |

David Kir
Statement of Intent
319
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:57:00 -
[573] - Quote
disasteur wrote: kudos for your nice insults, i hope you have fun on the next event
You're welcome; I hope you try to avoid behaving like an illiterate arse next time. |

Killerjock
Von Neumann Industries
29
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:59:00 -
[574] - Quote
Jythier Smith wrote:Oh, so you're flying a spaceship around in real life? Or are you just PLAYING the ROLE of a capsuleer?
By this definition, Call of Duty is a RPG (you're playing the role of a soldier); Gran Turismo is a RPG (you're playing the role of a pilot) and Super Mario is an RPG (you play the role of an italian plumber); and Monopoly as well since you play the role of a shoe/candle/car? Your definition is a bit to wide, in my opinion.
Besides, you were argumenting we should direct our rage to the factions; Faction do not exist - not anymore than my Thorax existed. They can not "decide" anything or drive me anywhere.
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disasteur
Tellcomtec Industries.
212
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:59:00 -
[575] - Quote
David Kir wrote:disasteur wrote: kudos for your nice insults, i hope you have fun on the next event
You're welcome; I hope you try to avoid behaving like an illiterate arse next time.
sorry i want referring to you, and dont give a sh*t about your insults as for all i care u can KMA |

Optimus Junkis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:01:00 -
[576] - Quote
The bottom line is basically everybody that was there got scammed into a killbox. Everybody listened and trusted CCP and followed them into a killzone. Than CCP basically just pointed and laughed.
Which is fine, whats one of the first things you should have learned playing this game? Don't trust anybody, even if your sleeping with them. Everybody thought since it was CCP they'll protect you or somehow make all the null sec alliances disappear.
Well guess what? CCP walked you into the lions den and the lion was not only there but hungry as hell. So everybody got owned. But you should have at least learned something from this if nothing else that you can't trust even CCP in eve. They will screw you just as fast as any other scammer out there.
Now if you'll excuse me i need to log my other toon in and tend to the market, ship sells are slightly higher than average right now :)
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Tyler Nietzsche
Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic
3
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:15:00 -
[577] - Quote
Optimus Junkis wrote:The bottom line is basically everybody that was there got scammed into a killbox. Everybody listened and trusted CCP and followed them into a killzone. Than CCP basically just pointed and laughed.
Which is fine, whats one of the first things you should have learned playing this game? Don't trust anybody, even if your sleeping with them. Everybody thought since it was CCP they'll protect you or somehow make all the null sec alliances disappear.
Well guess what? CCP walked you into the lions den and the lion was not only there but hungry as hell. So everybody got owned. But you should have at least learned something from this if nothing else that you can't trust even CCP in eve. They will screw you just as fast as any other scammer out there.
Now if you'll excuse me i need to log my other toon in and tend to the market, ship sells are slightly higher than average right now :)
That's Ok. Dying is fine. Getting awoked is fine. But missing the whole thing by 23 jump TD10. Missing all content. Missing any hint of a point or a reason. That is unforgivable.
I kind of get the "tear farmers" from reading this thread. I like drama. But not shooting fish in a barrel. If I would enjoy that, I would lose all self respect. This thread offers lots of drama. My feeling is that CCP is not to gain from it. |

Emiko P'eng
53
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:16:00 -
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Well!
An event at a time when I can take part, great 
EVE is a dangerous place and intellegence gathering is king!
Rubicon has Ghost Pirate sites + CCP holding live event = a fight in low or null sec with a High Sec, CCP & maybe NPC force against CCP, Null Sec force & NPCs (Sounds like a great introduction to PvP) 
Goto EVE University fit out my Navy Slicer for PvP, haven't got the foggiest idea how to really fly a PvP fit but hey! 
Prospect of being cannon fodder for a Null Sec Alliance or the faint chance I might actually have a faint chance of destroying a null sec player ship, nerve wracking 
Get to Sarum Prime at 18:40. Following chat to find Ihal is next way point, jump out at 18:50
Get to Ihal at 20:19 after the mother of jump treks average TiDi ~12% (Impressed by coding of TiDi though)
Reports come in that the event has finished already as the Null Sec fleet had a hour to set up due to no TiDi on their routes! As a result they had already destroyed CCP, the NPCs and the objective and were now camping the gates with a huge instant kill camp for anyone who made it through the porridge! 
Headed for home disappointed!
Suggestions for next event:
- Reinforce ALL the systems going to be involved with the event!
- Alliances can jump bridge & Cyno. Then surely Empires should at least have similar technology!
- Modern battles run on information. I saw 2 posts in chat by a Pilot who was 'most likely' supposed to be leading the battle. Again Alliances can set up voice channels, Mumble, Teamspeak etc.. EVE even has one built in. No information on anything like that for fast communications
Will I go to another event, maybe!
Was this an organisational debacle, Yes!
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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
838
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:18:00 -
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Optimus Junkis wrote: Everybody thought since it was CCP they'll protect you or somehow make all the null sec alliances disappear.
Wrong on so many levels which means your reading comprehension skills are lower than CCPs it would seem.
The "rage" is about the lack of info, organisation, infrastructure and everyone that participated WANTED to get a fight...they JC'd for it, brought ships they were willing to die in...just none of that happened and hence the rage.
Try to read what most people are posting rather than reading what you want into it and then crap-posting the above like so many others.
We came knowing and willing to lose our ships and clones...not to die to TiDi hell trying to get to staging point after staging point and the RP LIVE Event organisers complete lack of skills is organising and running such an event. Oh and I heard the "Actors" got bored and blew the objective any way. |

Optimus Junkis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:25:00 -
[580] - Quote
Tyler Nietzsche wrote:Optimus Junkis wrote:The bottom line is basically everybody that was there got scammed into a killbox. Everybody listened and trusted CCP and followed them into a killzone. Than CCP basically just pointed and laughed.
Which is fine, whats one of the first things you should have learned playing this game? Don't trust anybody, even if your sleeping with them. Everybody thought since it was CCP they'll protect you or somehow make all the null sec alliances disappear.
Well guess what? CCP walked you into the lions den and the lion was not only there but hungry as hell. So everybody got owned. But you should have at least learned something from this if nothing else that you can't trust even CCP in eve. They will screw you just as fast as any other scammer out there.
Now if you'll excuse me i need to log my other toon in and tend to the market, ship sells are slightly higher than average right now :)
That's Ok. Dying is fine. Getting awoked is fine. But missing the whole thing by 23 jump TD10. Missing all content. Missing any hint of a point or a reason. That is unforgivable. I kind of get the "tear farmers" from reading this thread. I like drama. But not shooting fish in a barrel. If I would enjoy that, I would lose all self respect. This thread offers lots of drama. My feeling is that CCP is not to gain from it.
Oh don't get me wrong, i'm not taking any sides on this. I mean on one hand you have the nearly 3k players that CCP just bent over and drilled without even buying them a drink first. On the other hand you have a sizable group of people that defended there space and have every right to bash the people complaining about it all they want. So i have chosen no sides just acknowledged that CCP royally screwed nearly 3k carebears and while giving a large number of pvpers a really good time.
But hey more power to them for holding there own can keeping people out of there space. I mean i know why people are pissed and it's not that they last a ship, got killed, podded or even spent hours at some staging area or jumping two dozen gates. It's the fact that CCP left them to die and was about as on target with it's organization as a blind archer.
So both sides did what was expected of them... the null sec alliances defended there systems as always. the carebears blindly followed a "trusted" person into null sec and died. the results of both sides where predictable.
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Jythier Smith
Sequestration INC. Harmonic Convergence
62
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:28:00 -
[581] - Quote
Killerjock wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:Oh, so you're flying a spaceship around in real life? Or are you just PLAYING the ROLE of a capsuleer? By this definition, Call of Duty is a RPG (you're playing the role of a soldier); Gran Turismo is a RPG (you're playing the role of a pilot) and Super Mario is an RPG (you play the role of an italian plumber); and Monopoly as well since you play the role of a shoe/candle/car? Your definition is a bit to wide, in my opinion. Besides, you were argumenting we should direct our rage to the factions; Faction do not exist - not anymore than my Thorax existed. They can not "decide" anything or drive me anywhere.
RPGs also include character development over the course of the game. Tell me more about your lack of employment history and how you don't train any skills. |

Optimus Junkis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:32:00 -
[582] - Quote
Maximus Aerelius wrote: ... Try to read what most people are posting rather than reading what you want into it and then crap-posting the above like so many others. ...
I have read what people are saying and i agree that CCP screwed this whole thing up so badly that it's amazing at the level of screw up that's happened here. I understand that people are pissed not because they died, the expected to some degree to die.
So don't think i'm trying to bash people that got screwed here. I understand why there angry and they have every right. |

David Kir
Statement of Intent
337
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:32:00 -
[583] - Quote
Jythier Smith wrote: RPGs also include character development over the course of the game. Tell me more about your lack of employment history and how you don't train any skills.
You're pointlessly discussing semantics. RPG or not, the event was organized by CCP, and they're responsible for its outcome. |

Lyrith Turalyon
Turalyon Prime
26
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:32:00 -
[584] - Quote
Here was our experience of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sTkO8rIK0&feature=share&list=PLI1o-KsnrFyMEFIPzfxFurLxuvvPWVd3V
Thanks CCP |

Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
33
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:34:00 -
[585] - Quote
H-sec proved it was willing to participate. No denying that!
I think most h-sec'rs frame EVE as a role playing game. There was a role implied here. And h-sec responded.
And then they were sacrificed for 0-sec jollies.
Anomaly One wrote:First event, last event **** this ****
Leaving h-sec, as it has always been, will be based firmly on my terms. |

Sushi Nardieu
Encapsulated.
170
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:40:00 -
[586] - Quote
I for one want to thank CCP for giving high-sec players a chance to leaving their shackles of empire. |

Tyler Nietzsche
Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic
3
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:47:00 -
[587] - Quote
Sushi Nardieu wrote:I for one want to thank CCP for giving high-sec players a chance to leaving their shackles of empire.
That's freedom, not shackles. I go where I need to go. I did not fall for the slaughter. This, probably, made it even less attractive to me. The stupidity. |

Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2254
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:49:00 -
[588] - Quote
Herbinator d'Arcadie wrote: Leaving h-sec, as it has always been, will be based firmly on my terms.
That's how it should be. CCP never had a plan for dealing with low/null pilots in Live Events that crossed into Low/Nullsec before, it was always up to the players to take a different route, scout things out, arrange for a cyno etc... I don't know why people assumed this would be any different. |

Dorian Carlyle
Carlyle's Vagabonds
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:53:00 -
[589] - Quote
Reading through some of this and also Jester blogspot I only say one thing here: CCP made a big mistake - and I really hope some hundred or even thousand players quit the game to make them feel it, that's NOT HOW YOU TREAT YOUR CUSTOMER. end of story. I just started the game and also just ended my subscription. end of story, part II.
And for all those null sec badassies who obviously enjoyed so much too slaughter an enemy who never stood a chance: Who are you going to gank when all the newbies are alienated and the old payer base leaves eventually as 10 years in the same game are enough? But of course it is better to have some quick money and feel good, cause your so badass  |

Tyler Nietzsche
Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic
3
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:53:00 -
[590] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Herbinator d'Arcadie wrote: Leaving h-sec, as it has always been, will be based firmly on my terms.
That's how it should be. CCP never had a plan for dealing with low/null pilots in Live Events that crossed into Low/Nullsec before, it was always up to the players to take a different route, scout things out, arrange for a cyno etc... I don't know why people assumed this would be any different.
In this case there was no way around. It was a pipe. Or nothing. And how many fit nullifiers, not knowing where they were going? |
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Optimus Junkis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:59:00 -
[591] - Quote
Dorian Carlyle wrote:Reading through some of this and also Jester blogspot I only say one thing here: CCP made a big mistake - and I really hope some hundred or even thousand players quit the game to make them feel it, that's NOT HOW YOU TREAT YOUR CUSTOMER. end of story. I just started the game and also just ended my subscription. end of story, part II. And for all those null sec badassies who obviously enjoyed so much too slaughter an enemy who never stood a chance: Who are you going to gank when all the newbies are alienated and the old payer base leaves eventually as 10 years in the same game are enough? But of course it is better to have some quick money and feel good, cause your so badass 
It's unfortunate that you got bent over like that but do you really think that closing your account is going to change anything? I mean i don't know but i'd be surprised if a handful of people closed there accounts over this. Also if they did than that people would have closed there accounts over the next month or two anyway.
This is eve and bad things happen and sometimes the happen to you. Yes CCP hosed you, lead you to the water and then drowned your ass in it. Close your account and that'll teach them! They've only delt with people closing there accounts over this type of thing for the last 10 years... this one event isn't going to cause any real financial damage.
Just learn from it, don't go to the next CCP event. Don't trust just anybody in the game. I mean i hate to see people leave the game over something like this but like i said you would have left anyway over the next few months. |

Petar Harad
Sebiestor Tribe
105
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:01:00 -
[592] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Herbinator d'Arcadie wrote: Leaving h-sec, as it has always been, will be based firmly on my terms.
That's how it should be. CCP never had a plan for dealing with low/null pilots in Live Events that crossed into Low/Nullsec before, it was always up to the players to take a different route, scout things out, arrange for a cyno etc... I don't know why people assumed this would be any different. I for one didn't assume it to be different. Me and a few others were more than willing to take an alternative route to the target system. I even plotted it and some other guy in fleet had an alt scouting the route already. We just ran out of time. We left the staging system Sarum Prime at the same moment the 'empire actor' left, but before we even reached the last HS system, the event was declared over and done with.
The fact that at that point I decided to go anyway, had more to do with a frustrated 'I expected to die, so f**k it, lets die in a fire and get this farce over with!'. So I did... |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1511
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:01:00 -
[593] - Quote
Perhaps Eve University or Agony Unleashed would care to give CCP lessons in how to organize and run large groups of players. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2439
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:20:00 -
[594] - Quote
CCP Goliath wrote:(...) There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement.
Translation: we're stupid, not evil.
Good to hear from you, but we already knew.  |

epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
124
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:27:00 -
[595] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:(...) There is also a lot of conjecture and assumption based on a lack of information, which we hope to remedy by being transparent and providing the information. There's nothing arrogant about that, it was a genuine statement. Translation: we're stupid, not evil. Good to hear from you, but we already knew. 
Both is also a possibility. |

Moses Atild
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:28:00 -
[596] - Quote
Lol whiny neck beards |

Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
13
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:48:00 -
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The PitBoss wrote:Subject says it all. Quote:Empire Navies put out call for capsuleer Assisantce 10% Tidi 5 j out to rally point (Sarum Prime) 10% Tidi the 16 j to the second rally point (Ihal) Tidi the few jumps to the last destination ... by then i was numb and not paying attention No real communication from gm/event host Lots of secrecy on locations apparently to keep people from ruining the event ONLY to include those people in the end. I want that hour of my life refunded to me  Good Job CCP ... NEXT time just open a wormhole and let people drop in PS: Please point me in the direction of this post to remind me why I shouldnt bother in another live event ...
All of this 
PS: asking for ship and clone reimbursement from CCP, the decision by CCP to reimburse will effect my rl future spending. It's not what I say but what I do, and will vote with my wallet as a customer they screwed over... again. |

epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
129
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:50:00 -
[598] - Quote
Moses Atild wrote:Lol whiny neck beards have you looked closely at your forum picture?  |

Optimus Junkis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:55:00 -
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Lemming Alpha1dash1 wrote: ...
PS: asking for ship and clone reimbursement from CCP, the decision by CCP to reimburse will effect my rl future spending. It's not what I say but what I do, and will vote with my wallet as a customer they screwed over... again.
Good bye, don't forget to set your last 24 hours of training before you leave. Cause you aren't getting reimbursed for anything. God why do people expect to be paid for this? I mean i understand you got hosed, so has every miner that got ganked in a belt or every freighter pilot that got suicide ganked at a gate or anybody that got awox'd.
You guys got hosed i get it, but it was an event that went horribly wrong, like on a massive scale. But it was an event, they didn't introduce any new functionality that added a "kill a carebear" button to the interface or anything. You had a ship or were supposed to have a ship that you were ok with losing.
You lost the time, you could been mission running or mining or whatever it is you do and you lost trust in CCP. You already accepted the loss of the ship and the clone when you went out there, if you hadn't already planned on that then the problem is with you not CCP. But really? Your going to take your ball and go home? lol
I'm sorry dude, i understand you got pissed on but some of you are acting very childish. so go ahead and close your account. |

epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
131
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:57:00 -
[600] - Quote
Optimus Junkis wrote:Lemming Alpha1dash1 wrote: ...
PS: asking for ship and clone reimbursement from CCP, the decision by CCP to reimburse will effect my rl future spending. It's not what I say but what I do, and will vote with my wallet as a customer they screwed over... again.
Good bye, don't forget to set your last 24 hours of training before you leave. Cause you aren't getting reimbursed for anything. God why do people expect to be paid for this? I mean i understand you got hosed, so has every miner that got ganked in a belt or every freighter pilot that got suicide ganked at a gate or anybody that got awox'd. You guys got hosed i get it, but it was an event that went horribly wrong, like on a massive scale. But it was an event, they didn't introduce any new functionality that added a "kill a carebear" button to the interface or anything. You had a ship or were supposed to have a ship that you were ok with losing. You lost the time, you could been mission running or mining or whatever it is you do and you lost trust in CCP. You already accepted the loss of the ship and the clone when you went out there, if you hadn't already planned on that then the problem is with you not CCP. But really? Your going to take your ball and go home? lol I'm sorry dude, i understand you got pissed on but some of you are acting very childish. so go ahead and close your account.
There is a slight difference, You USUALLY do not get awoxe'd by CCP |
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