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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2294
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Posted - 2013.11.13 11:15:00 -
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If you want to be entertained, I would read the eve-search version of this thread.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
TownSaver
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
104
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:44:00 -
[422] - Quote
Mad Ani wrote:
GÇó 8125 Twitch followers
Who would like me to continue this full time as CCP Mad Ani?
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No. |
Dace Malukker
The Praxis Initiative
Gentlemen's Agreement
6
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:17:00 -
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Znagl wrote:CCP Mad Ani?
More like CCP Douche!
Where is the promotional value in looking at people undocking from stations and tidi lagfests.
kil2 made some great video footage, with good commentary and some valuable pvp insight.
mad ani is just some lame attempt at gaining internet fame with 10+ annoying banners and terrible music.
Not sure how CCP recruits people but I am pretty sure they will contact whoever they are interested in.
Begging for a job just shows a lack of self-value...
But... but... animated gif of kitten rocking out on headphones... surely this is job worthy. |
Alt Two
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:46:00 -
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Shacheh wrote:Ryan526 wrote:I'm sure CCP has people who can do this way better than mad ani. If CCP wanted a 24 hour afk stream with music they would have one, they dont need ani. This is not a resume, and not how you apply for a job. The players don't decide who gets hired, that's CCP's job.
I would still believe that players' opinions have weight in such decisions (application based on publicity). I don't think CCP sees streaming music/events directly related to their game. And 8000 concurrent viewers vs. 30 000-40 000 concurrent players online in EVE, it's quite an amount. Then again I believe a job application works better than forum posts but who knows!
8000 peak concurrent viewers, which happened once. You all try to make it sound like it's a regular thing. Current viewer number is 125.
And how many of those are actual active viewers and not people who just leave their browser open 24/7? Going by the chat activity, and the fact that he's just been streaming a black screen for hours I'd say they are all afk.
tl;dr The channel is pretty much dead unless on the occasions where other people create content for him. Mad Ani himself doesn't do anything except leech off of others. |
Xolve
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2122
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:11:00 -
[425] - Quote
I can only imagine how 'active' his channel would be if the timer board for this farce of a 'war' wasn't public; not like he can be bothered to add much other self-gained insight to his stream. |
502 Bad Gateway
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:25:00 -
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Sorry, but i'd rather have CCP Mintchip back than see CCP Mad Ani
The stream provides nothing but coverage of major conflicts, the other 90% of the time is spent looking at a station undock, hardly warrants being put onto an active payroll.
The only reason he managed to peak the 8365 concurrent viewers mark was because everyone wanted to see a big alliance get shut down, not because they wanted to see him. If it wasn't for the Current conflicts within EVE, nobody would even batter an eyelid.
If he wants to be paid to stream, He should actually stream content, not station undocks.
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Chi Ana
Zebra Corp
Gentlemen's Agreement
48
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:06:00 -
[427] - Quote
-1 from me, no need for more useless GM's. i prefer them to spent the money on a dev that makes real usefull content. |
Terra Khashour
CBC Interstellar
Fidelas Constans
4
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:15:00 -
[428] - Quote
No.
The most important objection is that he begged money from people, supposedly in order to improve the stream. Instead, you can now watch how he play BF. This makes me suspect that he will us position to achieve personal gain(in game). And for God's sake, if he's got a new job why he wants to work for the CCP ... for me it's all kind of strange. |
Ssllit Romney
Intergalactic Fight Club
The East India Co.
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:24:00 -
[429] - Quote
One of the benefits I can see to this is that Mad Ani actually has some pulse on where the big fights are going to be (better than CCP) and they could use this intel to reinforce the nodes where this will occur, increasing the quality of large fleet battles. |
502 Bad Gateway
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:26:00 -
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Terra Khashour wrote:This makes me suspect that he will use position to achieve personal gain(in game)..
You mean like how he practically begged CCP Rise over Skype, on stream, to be given a Probe, or a way where nobody could engage and kill him?
Ssllit Romney wrote:One of the benefits I can see to this is that Mad Ani actually has some pulse on where the big fights are going to be (better than CCP) and they could use this intel to reinforce the nodes where this will occur, increasing the quality of large fleet battles.
He is fed intel. Hardly a pulse. |
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Ssllit Romney
Intergalactic Fight Club
The East India Co.
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:30:00 -
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502 Bad Gateway wrote:He is fed intel. Hardly a pulse.
Intel is intel. |
502 Bad Gateway
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:33:00 -
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Ssllit Romney wrote:502 Bad Gateway wrote:He is fed intel. Hardly a pulse. Intel is intel. Intel != pulse. |
Strinyth heart
Magnus Opus Xodus
8
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:37:00 -
[433] - Quote
Ssllit Romney wrote:One of the benefits I can see to this is that Mad Ani actually has some pulse on where the big fights are going to be (better than CCP) and they could use this intel to reinforce the nodes where this will occur, increasing the quality of large fleet battles.
Players are the ones supposed to inform CCP which systems are going to have a big fight happening so that they can reinforce the node, and that can only be done with a day in advance, so Ani wouldn't do anything that isn't already done by both CCP and players. |
octahexx Charante
Corporate Scum
Northern Associates.
77
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:44:00 -
[434] - Quote
no please just no.
his stream reminds me of the tvshow ouch my balls from the movie idiocracy with all the banners and money begging and **** on the borders around his stream.
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Arec Bardwin
1179
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:20:00 -
[435] - Quote
What a terrible idea. |
Wilma Fingerdoo
We Have No Bananas
2
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:22:00 -
[436] - Quote
CCP Ouch my balls, it has a nice ring to it. |
Bosquit
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
51
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:32:00 -
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I think its been proven that people will watch Eve streams, and that in some form it attracts new viewers. Ani's stream is the biggest and would be around to stream the massive fights people wanted to see, whether that is entertaining when tidi kicks in is sort of the viewers preference.
I'm not too sure however Ani is the right person for a job, or if this is even worthy of a job, but he has been the only one doing it fairly consistently.
I am however amused by the fact that the majority of people complaining are part of Black Legion, Goonswarm, and Pandemic Legion, all alliances who have whined and complained about the stream because it provides some form of intel. Really....you need to get over it, as if people aren't already aware of what you are doing with the ridiculous amounts of spies or people have eyes on your fleets already. Whining about intel isn't a reason to **** all over a guy who wants to do something he enjoys doing, and to some extent people enjoy him doing. Wearing a fedora and sunglasses inside while you are on a webcam streaming, that's a reason to **** all over a guy.
"Insert Philosophical Statement Here" |
cpu939
Eternal Darkness.
Fatal Ascension
42
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:38:00 -
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Strinyth heart wrote:Ssllit Romney wrote:One of the benefits I can see to this is that Mad Ani actually has some pulse on where the big fights are going to be (better than CCP) and they could use this intel to reinforce the nodes where this will occur, increasing the quality of large fleet battles. Players are the ones supposed to inform CCP which systems are going to have a big fight happening so that they can reinforce the node, and that can only be done with a day in advance, so Ani wouldn't do anything that isn't already done by both CCP and players.
this.
It's a no from me there are other things ccp could do with the money to better the game, i know there are some that have come back/joined due to the stream he is doing but lets face it. If he was to give it up others would take it over for free.
Hiring anyone not just mad ani to fly around watching people fight could lead to so much tinfoil hat posts and ccp's IA getting a lot more work |
Strinyth heart
Magnus Opus Xodus
8
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:46:00 -
[439] - Quote
Bosquit wrote:I think its been proven that people will watch Eve streams, and that in some form it attracts new viewers. Ani's stream is the biggest and would be around to stream the massive fights people wanted to see, whether that is entertaining when tidi kicks in is sort of the viewers preference.
I'm not too sure however Ani is the right person for a job, or if this is even worthy of a job, but he has been the only one doing it fairly consistently.
I am however amused by the fact that the majority of people complaining are part of Black Legion, Goonswarm, and Pandemic Legion, all alliances who have whined and complained about the stream because it provides some form of intel. Really....you need to get over it, as if people aren't already aware of what you are doing with the ridiculous amounts of spies or people have eyes on your fleets already. Whining about intel isn't a reason to **** all over a guy who wants to do something he enjoys doing, and to some extent people enjoy him doing. Wearing a fedora and sunglasses inside while you are on a webcam streaming, that's a reason to **** all over a guy.
Goonswarm dislike that mad ani gives intel of their fleet movements? I don't think they really care, since more often then not they will have dbrb streaming his point of view of fights without any delay. The fountain war, they had dbrb streaming i think it was a bomber fleet, again no delay, this war is the same thing, dbrb will also stream sometimes his bomber fleet, with no delay, if they were all that worried about giving intel to enemies, they wouldn't allow that.
And you are right that a big portion of the people that posted on this tread are part of big alliances, but you can't really discredit the points that they made about why Mad ani should not work for CCP as if they were just whining that he's giving intel to their enemies.
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Kyathab
Lions Of Judah
Insidious Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:02:00 -
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+1, hire him.
He's a huge boon to the community. Me and my friends resubbed only because he was streaming the big fights and we realized "somewhere" out there is actually people shooting at each other which means this game might not be completely doomed yet. |
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp.
Northern Associates.
256
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:34:00 -
[441] - Quote
no , use your energy into the game. There are some interesting twitch streamers tho, look into them
edit: oh btw did you smoke that money for your so called new rig?
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Gritstone
The Graduates
RAZOR Alliance
24
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:15:00 -
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Kyathab wrote:+1, hire him.
He's a huge boon to the community. Me and my friends resubbed only because he was streaming the big fights and we realized "somewhere" out there is actually people shooting at each other which means this game might not be completely doomed yet.
You needed a poorly delivered stream to realize that people were shooting at each other in a PVP game? Wow, you sir are a genius. |
Rakahn Tazinas
It hurts when IP
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:16:00 -
[443] - Quote
+1
Common CCP, give this hero a job! |
Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations
Surely You're Joking
256
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:10:00 -
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The brass tax is this...
Should CCP go out of its way to hire a streamer.
Actually it goes even farther than that. What Mad literally asked CCP is this.
Will CCP hire a news reporter who streams ongoing events in Eve on a 24 hour basis?
Mad Ani's probably one of the best people for the job. I'm being honest here. He doesn't have a side to take, he's streaming the facts, and he's basically been doing it solely because he likes it. He himself is removed from 90% of the game populous because he's already done most of whats in the game already. His literal interest is putting on a good show. I don't fault him for that.
Is he an expert? No.
Is he perfect? No.
Does he know everything? No.
Does the person willing to do this job need to know everything? No.
The only thing the person needs is to be neutral, report the facts, and put on a good show.
He can do that, he's proven that too. The difference between him and the other streamers is that there is no propoganda with his stream. There is no mega corp, conglomerate, coalition supporting him. He's essentially totally neutral.
Which is what a reporter on the game needs to be. Its equal reporting on all sides, with 0 influence from anybody.
Based solely on that, he would be a good fit for doing the job of being a reporter. I could honestly care less about what he did up to this point. He didn't shoot anybody in the head, not a convicted felon and he doesn't generally hate on every living thing (as far as we know). He can do what he wants as it is currently his stream. He's bound by no rules, but he's been fairly straight forward to the community.
The community helped him with his PC, cool, no big deal.
The community (some) subscribed to his stream, hey that's there choice, and allowable as per twitch.
He does raffles, cool, that's him keeping the community watching.
His sole reason, least as far as I can see, is that he would like to keep streaming, and do it as more of a professional job. He can't do a 24 hour stream, keep it interesting, and ontop of that, run a 9 to 5 job on a daily basis, stay up to 3 to 4 in the morning keeping up with the CTA's, alliance attacks, and eve events, and live what most would attempt to conceive as being a normal life.
If he wants the job, hell I say hire him. You can figure out in what capacity later on. Having a 24/7 guy doing streaming of a game, that is itself 24/7... Not a bad investment. I've seen what other game companies do or attempt to do in regards to there dev's being streamers. Its usually for 2 hours on a friday, and all there doing is chatting with the community, or killing some enemy's trying to show-off the game. Mad kinda gets into the middle of everything, keeps it objective and clean, and explains like a reporter does, what the heck is happening, what stuff does, what that light and that beam is, and does it constantly as if the person just changed the channel and began watching Eve for the first time.
You don't get allot of people like that, who are capable of explaining a game on a constant basis, at all times of the day and night.
You currently have no developer in CCP that wants to do that because its not game development, it is solely reporting.
There are some people on this post that say "Hey there are other streamers, look this corp is steaming too". The difference is that there streaming for "Their corp". Mad's literally a guy who walked into a warzone with a camera and decided to report the whole thing before everybody decides to go find him and kill him.
Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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Xaerael Endiel
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:29:00 -
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What I think a lot of people aren't realising is this is not only politically a bad move for CCP to do, and would cause a lot of friction between players and CCP in a year that's been fraught with problems already... it's most definitely a TERRIBLE financial one. No matter how generously I run the numbers, CCP loses money for paying someone to stream.
Look, we get it. Mad Ani doesn't want a real job, and wants to sit at his PC all day with his feet up, playing horrible music to almost nobody, because most of the people who watch his stream mute it. Who wouldn't want a job like that? |
Gematica
Militaris Industries
Northern Coalition.
35
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:57:00 -
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Are you doing this because CCP is clamping down on RMT'ing??? Using EVE to beg for isk and Real life money to build your streaming computer?? Which now you need more money for??? I liked you when you flew with us as a fellow pilot in NCDOT but now you have turned into this EVE "street begger". The stream is a great idea but the constant asking for isk and cash is not.
My reference to RMT'ing is easy enough to explain. I will rob a quote off evenews24
"6) In game ISK prizes for subscribing with real money. Sounds like RMT to me."
Simples |
Bluemelon
Polaris Rising
Gentlemen's Agreement
59
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:24:00 -
[447] - Quote
You're a ******* idiot |
0mni Ca
Origin.
Black Legion.
22
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:31:00 -
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Can I start a petition to not get him hired ?
My answer to his post is a NO! |
Bandua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:20:00 -
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Mad Ani... dude, kinda feel sorry for you. This is so fail on so many levels. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp.
Northern Associates.
256
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Posted - 2013.11.14 07:56:00 -
[450] - Quote
bump this awesome tread
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