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502 Bad Gateway
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.14 08:36:00 -
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So people donated him the cash to get a better pc for streaming, and this is what we get
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21997154/screendump/paidpchuh..PNG
WOW. |
Alt Two
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2013.11.14 08:38:00 -
[452] - Quote
The stream is getting really popular these days. http://imgur.com/AjU2pJD |
SwissChris1
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:12:00 -
[453] - Quote
So the entire first page of posts come from forum alts and close friends that post bull**** about him being the reason they re-subbed.
I don't even... |
Tode Tuu
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:39:00 -
[454] - Quote
Phoenix Jones wrote:The brass tax is this...
Should CCP go out of its way to hire a streamer.
Actually it goes even farther than that. What Mad literally asked CCP is this.
Will CCP hire a news reporter who streams ongoing events in Eve on a 24 hour basis?
Mad Ani's probably one of the best people for the job. I'm being honest here. He doesn't have a side to take, he's streaming the facts, and he's basically been doing it solely because he likes it. He himself is removed from 90% of the game populous because he's already done most of whats in the game already. His literal interest is putting on a good show. I don't fault him for that.
Is he an expert? No. Is he perfect? No. Does he know everything? No. Does the person willing to do this job need to know everything? No.
The only thing the person needs is to be neutral, report the facts, and put on a good show.
He can do that, he's proven that too. The difference between him and the other streamers is that there is no propoganda with his stream. There is no mega corp, conglomerate, coalition supporting him. He's essentially totally neutral.
Which is what a reporter on the game needs to be. Its equal reporting on all sides, with 0 influence from anybody.
Based solely on that, he would be a good fit for doing the job of being a reporter. I could honestly care less about what he did up to this point. He didn't shoot anybody in the head, not a convicted felon and he doesn't generally hate on every living thing (as far as we know). He can do what he wants as it is currently his stream. He's bound by no rules, but he's been fairly straight forward to the community.
The community helped him with his PC, cool, no big deal. The community (some) subscribed to his stream, hey that's there choice, and allowable as per twitch. He does raffles, cool, that's him keeping the community watching.
His sole reason, least as far as I can see, is that he would like to keep streaming, and do it as more of a professional job. He can't do a 24 hour stream, keep it interesting, and ontop of that, run a 9 to 5 job on a daily basis, stay up to 3 to 4 in the morning keeping up with the CTA's, alliance attacks, and eve events, and live what most would attempt to conceive as being a normal life.
If he wants the job, hell I say hire him. You can figure out in what capacity later on. Having a 24/7 guy doing streaming of a game, that is itself 24/7... Not a bad investment. I've seen what other game companies do or attempt to do in regards to there dev's being streamers. Its usually for 2 hours on a friday, and all there doing is chatting with the community, or killing some enemy's trying to show-off the game. Mad kinda gets into the middle of everything, keeps it objective and clean, and explains like a reporter does, what the heck is happening, what stuff does, what that light and that beam is, and does it constantly as if the person just changed the channel and began watching Eve for the first time.
You don't get allot of people like that, who are capable of explaining a game on a constant basis, at all times of the day and night.
You currently have no developer in CCP that wants to do that because its not game development, it is solely reporting.
There are some people on this post that say "Hey there are other streamers, look this corp is steaming too". The difference is that there streaming for "Their corp". Mad's literally a guy who walked into a warzone with a camera and decided to report the whole thing before everybody decides to go find him and kill him.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2299
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Posted - 2013.11.14 15:01:00 -
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People seemingly haven't twigged his stream is a backup machine 99% of the time whilst he goes about using his paid-by-donation-to-stream computer for various FPS games.
Zoomed out undocks in moderate graphics don't take much computer power. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2299
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Posted - 2013.11.14 15:02:00 -
[456] - Quote
n.b. if anyone thinks Ani is a neutral reporter, I'd also assume they think Fox News and The Daily Mail show both sides of immigration issues.
Ok, ok, you Ani supporters are a bit slow, so I will say it thus: he ain't. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Asserted Invaluability
Anti Einstein-Rosen Vixens
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 15:18:00 -
[457] - Quote
I've posted it once in another thread and I'll post it again here.
If you are using EvE Clients as an integral part of your streaming AND begging for subs and donations then how is this not the same as (Or really even worse than!) what Somer Blink has been charged with doing (i.e. that three letter acronym you get threads locked for using).
You scammed in-game and was proud of it. You now get PAID for doing it, despite having no real content on your streams or even decent camera angles or information except for iBots that are normally 24 hours out of date in a big fight.
And now PAY ME OR I'LL PULL THE PLUG WAHHH!
BTW Does your "new employer" have any employees that play EvE Online? If they do you may have just lost your new job by advertising you are looking for another one.
Idiot! |
Firefox4312 Yatolila
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
18
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Posted - 2013.11.14 15:21:00 -
[458] - Quote
Tode Tuu wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:The brass tax is this...
Should CCP go out of its way to hire a streamer.
Actually it goes even farther than that. What Mad literally asked CCP is this.
Will CCP hire a news reporter who streams ongoing events in Eve on a 24 hour basis?
Mad Ani's probably one of the best people for the job. I'm being honest here. He doesn't have a side to take, he's streaming the facts, and he's basically been doing it solely because he likes it. He himself is removed from 90% of the game populous because he's already done most of whats in the game already. His literal interest is putting on a good show. I don't fault him for that.
Is he an expert? No. Is he perfect? No. Does he know everything? No. Does the person willing to do this job need to know everything? No.
The only thing the person needs is to be neutral, report the facts, and put on a good show.
He can do that, he's proven that too. The difference between him and the other streamers is that there is no propoganda with his stream. There is no mega corp, conglomerate, coalition supporting him. He's essentially totally neutral.
Which is what a reporter on the game needs to be. Its equal reporting on all sides, with 0 influence from anybody.
Based solely on that, he would be a good fit for doing the job of being a reporter. I could honestly care less about what he did up to this point. He didn't shoot anybody in the head, not a convicted felon and he doesn't generally hate on every living thing (as far as we know). He can do what he wants as it is currently his stream. He's bound by no rules, but he's been fairly straight forward to the community.
The community helped him with his PC, cool, no big deal. The community (some) subscribed to his stream, hey that's there choice, and allowable as per twitch. He does raffles, cool, that's him keeping the community watching.
His sole reason, least as far as I can see, is that he would like to keep streaming, and do it as more of a professional job. He can't do a 24 hour stream, keep it interesting, and ontop of that, run a 9 to 5 job on a daily basis, stay up to 3 to 4 in the morning keeping up with the CTA's, alliance attacks, and eve events, and live what most would attempt to conceive as being a normal life.
If he wants the job, hell I say hire him. You can figure out in what capacity later on. Having a 24/7 guy doing streaming of a game, that is itself 24/7... Not a bad investment. I've seen what other game companies do or attempt to do in regards to there dev's being streamers. Its usually for 2 hours on a friday, and all there doing is chatting with the community, or killing some enemy's trying to show-off the game. Mad kinda gets into the middle of everything, keeps it objective and clean, and explains like a reporter does, what the heck is happening, what stuff does, what that light and that beam is, and does it constantly as if the person just changed the channel and began watching Eve for the first time.
You don't get allot of people like that, who are capable of explaining a game on a constant basis, at all times of the day and night.
You currently have no developer in CCP that wants to do that because its not game development, it is solely reporting.
There are some people on this post that say "Hey there are other streamers, look this corp is steaming too". The difference is that there streaming for "Their corp". Mad's literally a guy who walked into a warzone with a camera and decided to report the whole thing before everybody decides to go find him and kill him. +1
You sir a ******* idiot. And I think we established earlier that you were a Mad Ani alt, and if you aren't you're one of the bigger white knighters in the game. |
Firefox4312 Yatolila
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
18
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Posted - 2013.11.14 15:23:00 -
[459] - Quote
Gritstone wrote:Kyathab wrote:+1, hire him.
He's a huge boon to the community. Me and my friends resubbed only because he was streaming the big fights and we realized "somewhere" out there is actually people shooting at each other which means this game might not be completely doomed yet. You needed a poorly delivered stream to realize that people were shooting at each other in a PVP game? Wow, you sir are a genius.
And smaller gang stuff is funner since you don't have to sit for hours waiting for your guns to cycle and reload constantly. At least with small gang, it's more energetic and funner in my honest opinion. But then again there are a lot of people that like the larger fights, but they're not for everyone. |
Firefox4312 Yatolila
404 Not Fun DARKNESS.
18
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Posted - 2013.11.14 15:25:00 -
[460] - Quote
Asserted Invaluability wrote:I've posted it once in another thread and I'll post it again here.
If you are using EvE Clients as an integral part of your streaming AND begging for subs and donations then how is this not the same as (Or really even worse than!) what Somer Blink has been charged with doing (i.e. that three letter acronym you get threads locked for using).
You scammed in-game and was proud of it. You now get PAID for doing it, despite having no real content on your streams or even decent camera angles or information except for iBots that are normally 24 hours out of date in a big fight.
And now PAY ME OR I'LL PULL THE PLUG WAHHH!
BTW Does your "new employer" have any employees that play EvE Online? If they do you may have just lost your new job by advertising you are looking for another one.
Idiot!
Isn't using this game to get money (i.e. subscribers to pay him + begging for money) against the EULA since CCP doesn't want people using their game for personal gain that doesn't help their company? And thus, that makes it a bannable offense? Someone quoted the EULA/TOS earlier, and I cba to find it, but it's there. |
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Tode Tuu
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 15:53:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! Thread re-opened. The rules:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others. 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.12. Spamming is prohibited.
Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to (insert other game name)GÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post. 19. All posts must be related to EVE Online.
Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only. 21. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.
Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited.22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. 26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. 31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the well being and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
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Xaerael Endiel
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.11.14 15:56:00 -
[462] - Quote
Wow, Mad Ani and his cohorts are breaking quite a few of those rules. Cleanup on isle ten! |
Beton Lebben
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 16:18:00 -
[463] - Quote
CCP's own team should be able to do this without Ani.
And have the 'Space news broadcast' shown on the large flat screen in the captains quarters ^^
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Asserted Invaluability
Anti Einstein-Rosen Vixens
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 16:51:00 -
[464] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. ....................
Yes this is quite correct. However since he LINKED his own stream in this channel and in this thread it's more than appropriate to go there and comment a will right?
Follow on peops
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Divine Prophet
Imperium Fleet
2
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Posted - 2013.11.14 18:26:00 -
[465] - Quote
His stream is not up to par at all and to pay him for something CCP can do better is absolutely not a good idea. IMP-X Fleet Command |
Buenanova Boirelle
Progress and Development Northern Army.
1
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Posted - 2013.11.14 19:20:00 -
[466] - Quote
I would vote no on the issue. and I do so as someone that has watched Mr. Mad's channel almost everyday but only because it's there along with several other streams on Twitch. To be honest there are people who do a better job of showcasing EVE when they stream it's just that they don't do it everyday 24/7. those people haven't been unemployed for almost a year though. they have day jobs.
As an EVE Subscription Holder I would enjoy an official game stream channel from Scope where the viewer can see what life is in New Eden from what's selling on the marketplace to live FW battles to Alliance politics to suggested fits for a such and such ship. pay some ISK to several random players from all corners of the galaxy to send a live feed and have someone in studio do a play by play on what's going on.
CCCP can do better at self promoting the game themselves via real players who are grinding it out everyday 24/7 and not just watch outposts for 22 hours and a bunch of colored dots shoot at each other for 2 hours. |
theelusiveyoda
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
26
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:33:00 -
[467] - Quote
TLDR: I WANT JOB BECAUSE I PLAY GAME.
Seriously if you want a job at CCP games do it through the correct means don't go on the forums and try get a Mob behind you so that you can try and pressure CCP to give you a job.
That's unprofessional and a embarrassment to the rest of the people who worked hard to get jobs at CCP or are trying to get a position there, you should be ashamed of yourself for even posting this thread, if CCP Wanted to hire you they would have contracted you already, this just screams out that you want attention.
You cant say that you haven't profited off streaming so don't go looking for CCP to give you a job just because people watch you live stream, if that's your idea of a good job application then go stream another game and apply to them as well.
Also you state that the laptop you use to stream is more stable? Surely you cant be serious as desktop hardware is miles more powerful than mobile hardware.
Also i quote "Unlicensed music? Heard of Spotify and YouTube? Next..." Just because its on YouTube doesn't automatically mean its licensed a lot of the most played versions of songs on YouTube are non publisher/license holder uploaded songs.
Also there are at least 10 people off the top of my head i would say have contributed more and deserve a job more at CCP than you do.
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Hayley Erquilenne
Hayley Erquilenne Corporation
6
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:57:00 -
[468] - Quote
theelusiveyoda wrote:TLDR: I WANT JOB BECAUSE I PLAY GAME.
Seriously if you want a job at CCP games do it through the correct means don't go on the forums and try get a Mob behind you so that you can try and pressure CCP to give you a job.
That's unprofessional and a embarrassment to the rest of the people who worked hard to get jobs at CCP or are trying to get a position there, you should be ashamed of yourself for even posting this thread, if CCP Wanted to hire you they would have contracted you already, this just screams out that you want attention.
You cant say that you haven't profited off streaming so don't go looking for CCP to give you a job just because people watch you live stream, if that's your idea of a good job application then go stream another game and apply to them as well.
Also you state that the laptop you use to stream is more stable? Surely you cant be serious as desktop hardware is miles more powerful than mobile hardware.
Also i quote "Unlicensed music? Heard of Spotify and YouTube? Next..." Just because its on YouTube doesn't automatically mean its licensed a lot of the most played versions of songs on YouTube are non publisher/license holder uploaded songs.
Also there are at least 10 people off the top of my head i would say have contributed more and deserve a job more at CCP than you do.
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502 Bad Gateway
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:15:00 -
[469] - Quote
Hayley Erquilenne wrote:
+11111111111111111111111
you know, hitting the "Like" button instead of making such a post is far more relevant? |
Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
33
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:31:00 -
[470] - Quote
Well hell, if Mintchip could get a job with CCP, why not Mad Ani?
Also, I'm still waiting for CCP to give me my bonus Blink Credit for watching their livestreams and devblogs. |
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Hayley Erquilenne
Hayley Erquilenne Corporation
6
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:51:00 -
[471] - Quote
502 Bad Gateway wrote:Hayley Erquilenne wrote:
+11111111111111111111111
you know, hitting the "Like" button instead of making such a post is far more relevant?
You know, just biomass your toon, you idiot. |
AssassinationsdoneWrong
The Nexus 7's
56
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:03:00 -
[472] - Quote
OMG! Look at that OP edit rant!
Officially renamed you UMad_Ani. Way to completely lose it and prove everyone right (which is to say you are totally wrong for any kind of responsibility on a WOT of rage, condescension and defensiveness. You really do think you are better than the rest of us right?
What does "You achieved your goals by making this post" mean? - That you achieved making an ass of yourself?
BTW, for future reference (Like you don't already know) you post your replies IN the thread just like your spam in your Twitch thread in this channel. That is if you are not afraid of getting a reply to your posts, because very few of us go back to the OP to look for edits.
AdW
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Alt Two
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
89
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:36:00 -
[473] - Quote
Mad Ani wrote:Plexes go to subscribers because I can. The cash has pretty much all been spent on this PC with 4 monitors. Reported for RMT. |
The Forgotten Strife
League of Angered Gentlemen
1
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:28:00 -
[474] - Quote
There are far more informative, higher quality, and generally entertaining streamers that represent the Eve community as a whole much better than the almost seizure inducing clusterfuck that is his channel.
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Gamst
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:30:00 -
[475] - Quote
Nolak Ataru wrote:Well hell, if Mintchip could get a job with CCP, why not Mad Ani?
Also, I'm still waiting for CCP to give me my bonus Blink Credit for watching their livestreams and devblogs.
This. Mintchip offers nothing except being a chick and having played or currently playing with PL. Mad Ani has been a part of the Eve Online experience for a while and I would hope he would get some sort of a job. Restating the fact that if Mintchip who offers little to nothing can get a job then why not Mad Ani would actually does something useful. This could be a great way to show people in High sec how much fun 0.0 is and could really be a great tool. |
AssassinationsdoneWrong
The Nexus 7's
57
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:35:00 -
[476] - Quote
Gamst wrote:[quote=Nolak Ataru] This could be a great way to show people in High sec how much fun 0.0 is and could really be a great tool.
/me sniggers
RAZOR Alliance ......... Tool
/me sniggers again.
AdW
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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
399
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:59:00 -
[477] - Quote
Gamst wrote:This. Mintchip offers nothing except being a chick and having played or currently playing with PL.
Right. Because in your world, women (or, as you like to say, "Chicks") only get hired because of their gender and the men they associate themselves with. Have you already posted on /r/mensrights to let them know? I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 "**** goons, they only kill stuff that can't shoot back, they aren't killing us fast enough, they missed my ****** Ibis so they failed, CCP ban goons they shot my ship." -- Distracted |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2307
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:39:00 -
[478] - Quote
Mad Ani wrote:Unlicensed music? Heard of Spotify and YouTube? They're both licensed and pay hundreds of millions of dollars a year in royalties. You can listen to them for your own use, but that's it.
It's not OK to (re)broadcast music and pay no-one for it. How can you not comprehend basic facts like this. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2307
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:41:00 -
[479] - Quote
Quote:Snapping and screaming at people asking questions? Blatantly people running out of excuses to troll with
Which reads as "Dozens of people independently stated the self-same complaints about me and this is backed up by past broadcasts available on my stream but it's not trueeeeeeee I swears to you" "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2307
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:50:00 -
[480] - Quote
Quote:Why did I make this original post? Yes viewers asked me to do it since after I created this stream back in January. Publicity due to the fact I am no longer on call 24/7 to stream the events. EN24 even made an article about it. It got your attention didn't it?
So I stole this from a much better forum because it's so often true:
Stages of ****** pubbie posting:
1. Terrible Post
2. Backing up terrible post with even worse posts
3. Rolling with the punches
4. Puppetmaster (sometimes this comes before #3)
5. Pouty apology and disappearance
Seems you've edited in 2, 3 and 4 into the OP, which is a unique take. We're now firmly on ~~~no im a puppetmaster guys you dont even know lol~~ "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
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