Naga sucks, talos over powered. Buff naga.

I think that blaster DPS is fine but needs a better optimal range.
Take for example an Abaddon in comparison. It does near the same DPS as a Megathron would with Pulse lasers, only difference is that it can shoot 60KM. I don't see much fairness in that.
TL;DR so I do not have to have a long and drawn out rant: Give blasters better optimal and falloff, Please.

I think that blaster DPS is fine but needs a better optimal range.
Take for example an Abaddon in comparison. It does near the same DPS as a Megathron would with Pulse lasers, only difference is that it can shoot 60KM. I don't see much fairness in that.

The thing is the Abaddon is very cap heavy with lasers, more so than the Mega with blasters. Reading these threads sometimes makes me smile and its like a MAKE MY RACE ULTIMATE AT ALL. If you really like the Abaddon, train for it. That's the beauty of Eve. It's interesting lots of null fleets fit Arty to the Abandon, as has been mentioned Arty is king.

As for blaster boats suffering at the hand of nuets, won't someone think of the laser boats. :)

Let's just give hybrids the range and alpha of Arty, the instant ammo load of lasers, all dmg types, the killing power it has up close and force all pilots to fly Gallente :)

The thing is the Abaddon is very cap heavy with lasers, more so than the Mega with blasters. Reading these threads sometimes makes me smile and its like a MAKE MY RACE ULTIMATE AT ALL. If you really like the Abaddon, train for it. That's the beauty of Eve. It's interesting lots of null fleets fit Arty to the Abandon, as has been mentioned Arty is king.

As for blaster boats suffering at the hand of nuets, won't someone think of the laser boats. :)

Let's just give hybrids the range and alpha of Arty, the instant ammo load of lasers, all dmg types, the killing power it has up close and force all pilots to fly Gallente :)

the traking enchancers fallof modifier needs to be nerfd to 15% - 20%
and add a script to traking computers with fallof mod maybe

and arty needs to loose some alpha and rails gain some alpha
but not an equal number an all turret classes
small, medium and large need to be looked at seperatly
cuz small hybrids are more then fine maybe a bit too fine :)

Ho you will excuse us for thinking that a pulse harby able to fully shoot/dms at 45km that manages to be neuted even by a t1 battleship (28km with faction neut), then the harby pilot really sucks.

Please show me this mythical pulse harbinger with 45km optimal.

Since harbingers have to use focused medium pulses due to gimped fitting, mine only has a 20km optimal with scorch. Hell, my legion with heavy pulses only hits to 34km.

I find it funny how everyone who complains that scorch is OP actually has no idea what ranges scorch actually hits at.

Don't you know that the only ships that count are those shield fitted so they can use lows for dps mods?

Everything else is for noobs, sry I will not discuss with you any longer you lack of bit vet attitude

Please show me this mythical pulse harbinger with 45km optimal.

Since harbingers have to use focused medium pulses due to gimped fitting, mine only has a 20km optimal with scorch. Hell, my legion with heavy pulses only hits to 34km. 45km is the optimal for abaddons with mega pulses, not this fairy tale 60km number that gets kicked around.

I find it funny how everyone who complains that scorch is OP actually has no idea what ranges scorch actually hits at.

Let me elaborate. To find out your effective range on your ship that you will hit good damage at, you Add up your Falloff+Optimal range. 60Km is the range an abaddon reaches for a pilot with moderate skills and 2 tracking computers with no scripts, as is a standard hellcat fitting. A Good pilot will hit around 75+km. If you are only able to hit 45km with an abaddon, you are both fitting wrong and have poor skillpoints.

If you want to get technical, it's optimal + (2 * falloff). At optimal + falloff, you're doing 50% damage. Everyone is quoting the Abaddon's paper DPS from EFT, which drops off once optimal is exceeded. WIth max skills, an Abaddon pilot with scorch has a 45km optimal. With 2 tracking computers, it's 52km. At 65km with max skill and 2 TCs, you're doing half damage. So basically, you're wrong.

[So you have flown abaddon in large fleets that are hellcat fitted how many times?
I'm sorry that you have no idea what you are talking about and are under the illusion of intelligence, but would you please let people who actually can fly these ships and have flown them and against them many times talk about them. Rather than posting as an EFT warrior who has most likely 0 experience with the ships he is talking about. Just please take your inner thoughts and express them to your brain alone, then rethink again before you repost - otherwise, silence your heretic tongue.

[I'm not trying to down you, It is only that you are simply wrong and are arguing for the sake of argument.

Dude, you are terrible. Your reply was the equivalent of "NO U". Try using facts next time. It makes you look like less of a ****.

EDIT: Oh, you're a drake blob pilot. Now I get why you hate the abaddon so much. But please, continue to "educate" us.

I am only saying that Blasters need a generous optimal and falloff buffing.

My concern with buffing blaster range so that it can hit at mega pulse range is the already superior damage and tracking of blasters. If blasters get what would likely be a 2x range buff, would tracking and damage be nerfed?

Really I wouldn't mind a damage reduction since that would be fair.
Tracking is fine as it is now.

There's the vindi, but only if you don't mind risking a 1.5bil ship...


(then again it is half minmatar...)

People who think the "Top 20" list is meaningful make me happy. If it were not for the hordes of people who fail to take an applied statistics course during thier lifetimes, I would not have a job irl.

ty :hugs:

My concern with buffing blaster range so that it can hit at mega pulse range is the already superior damage and tracking of blasters. If blasters get what would likely be a 2x range buff, would tracking and damage be nerfed?

People who think the "Top 20" list is meaningful make me happy. If it were not for the hordes of people who fail to take an applied statistics course during thier lifetimes, I would not have a job irl.

ty :hugs: