Deal with it. Extortion is a valid game mechanic.

A mission runner runs missions and uses the ISK he gets from bounties to buy PLEX to donate to PFG.
A miner mines and uses the ISK he gets from selling minerals to buy PLEX to donate to PFG.
A wardeccer wardecs people and uses the ISK he gets from ransoms to buy PLEX to donate to PFG.

I don't see any difference here. Or do you want to stop other people from donating their honestly obtained ISK for the good cause too?

So I log back to eve to see the marmites wardeccing left and right.

Here's the mail they sent out with the decs:

"We thought it would be a good idea to war dec alliances. And if they want to surrender they will have to donate a plex to the lex for good campaign. We just want to do something to support the Plex for good campaign of ccp".

I have several problems with this...

This leaves a very sour taste in my mouth, i understand when people bully others in eve just for their sheer pleasure and the harvest of tears, some (if not all) of the best stories in eve have come through the loss of someone else and they following rage and machoism is just the icing of the cake. However, why do you have to mix this with a tragedy that happened in real life ?

Can we PLEASE keep this separate ? How much and if i donated something to the philippines is my personal matter, i dont want to talk about it in eve, i dont even want to lay out how much i sent, it's none of your guys business and i certainly don't want to be blackmailed into a RL activity by anyone nomatter how "good" it is. You can dec me all day long just to be a ****, thats completely fine, this is eve in the end.

I would like to play a game when i play the game and not have this in my face all the time, especially since we come from all walks of life, i can think of alot of examples where such humanitarian aid would be a slap in your face if you just come from the wrong country or different ideology when in fact you would just love to play the game. (not in this case maybe, but where do you draw the line ?)

Plex for Good through CCP is fine, it's something i can choose to do freely and i think its great that ccp took action on behalf of the community. But this ? What if they use it as a scam to make money ? Where is the line between forcing someone to donate and convincing them ?
What if they lift the dec afterwards and then dec you again but this time for other reasons ? How... i dont even... ???

I'm probably getting flamed for this but i can't make sense of it and would love to get some input from you guys.

(no, i didnt get wardecced, this is my main and he's in an npc corp, no i'm not butthurt, no eve is not dieing, no it's not my brother who used this account)

Considering the Red cross will use 90% of the money people donate just to pay the exorbitant salaries of their executives... that itself should get you a way bitter taste than anything related to wars. I myself would never donate a single penny to red cross. I just use this money to help smaller entities close by that I can see exactly how they use the money while operatign under the natinal jurisdiction and strictly forbidden to use the money for anything other than direct help.

Blackmailing people into doing stuff that they wouldn't do otherwise in the RL world is a criminal offence.

Care to read what i wrote ? Its a difference if you chose to do it yourself or get blackmailed into it. If the marmites are so good and generous why dont they just gather the money and THEN use that money to donate it ?

Blackmailing people into doing stuff that they wouldn't do otherwise in the RL world is a criminal offence.

Blackmailing people into doing stuff that they wouldn't do otherwise in the RL world is a criminal offence.

tbh that sounds disgusting and low even by eve standards, using the plight of a RL catastrophe to bully your way in a game is the word of bottom feeders and scum of a other level

Here a Story

There this wee boy goes to school everyday, everyday he gets bullied and beat up, he plays eve to find his fun and forget about it, the bullies(who also play eve) find out and start using that to BM an extort him in game

eve communities reaction = legit use of game mechanic

Care to read what i wrote ? Its a difference if you chose to do it yourself or get blackmailed into it. If the marmites are so good and generous why dont they just gather the money and THEN use that money to donate it ? Why even mention it ?

It's not blackmail. All they are doing is offering terms of peace and part of those terms is that you donate to PFG. You can refuse the terms if you're not happy with them.

This thread alone justifies the concept.

You'd rather pay them off directly to drop the war dec, so they maybe could buy a plex with the spoils?
What difference does it make? However they frame their conditions, it's up to you to deal with it.

They're perfectly entitled to wardeccing you for whatever reason they choose.
Whatever they do with whatever you give them is not up to you.

If you don't want to give in to their demands, just go to low sec.. no need to post a whiny thread.

Nothing at all positive comes for the charity drive from this approach

And it is, of course, blackmail. Do x or you will suffer negative consequences y is just what blackmail is.

Now, that's absolutely fine in EvE but this the PFG initiative has one foot in EvE and one foot in the real world so particular care has to be taken with associating behaviours that are unacceptable in the real world but fine in EvE with it.