All players have been warned about exactly this in the Dev blog.



So you see, if they are doing this, and they are keeping it for themselves, then they are doing something wrong, and CCP will step in. If they are actually doing what they claim they are, then it is not a scam, and CCP have no reason to step in.

I hope they do for their own sake as they will be permabanned otherwise. That is not in question. What amazes me is seeing you advocating stealing from a real charity because 'Its a game, lolz, htfu'. It takes a special type of person to think that's ok.

I think it could be worse. They could be asking for Billions of ISK to line their own pockets.

Anyway, those who say the Red Cross keeps 90% of the money for themselves need to get their facts straight. All you have to do is Google and see 9% of the money donated is used for administrative costs, like salaries and other things it takes to run a business. And out of that 9%, only 4% goes to salaries. The rest is for fundraising expenses and so on. That means 91 cents out of every dollar donated is used for relief efforts, which is pretty damn good.

There are a lot of other charities that only give 9 cents out of every dollar, and use the rest to line their pockets. Get your facts straight before spouting off, it makes you look stupid.

Actually, OP is just upset that marmite is making him feel bad for not paying the ransom. Using out-of-game events to make people feel guilty or uncomfortable in game is just going too far, damnit! (saracsm)

This doesn't really seem like all that big of a deal to me.

I would however be more impressed with Marmites if they just straight ransomed a shitload of ISK and contributed a huge amount of PLEX of their own.

It's kind of lazy to ask others to do it "for you."

Blackmailing people into doing stuff that they wouldn't do otherwise in the RL world is a criminal offence. It has nothing to do with a game mechanic, that is EXACTLY my point and it nowhere justifies everything you do just because ccp tolerates the double isk scammers in jita. I have problems understanding your logic to be honest.

I've spoken with the GM Team regarding this, and the decision is quite simple.

Corporate extortion via demand for payment to cease hostilities is a valid game mechanic.

If this valid game mechanic is being used as a method of raising ISK for a good cause, then CCP will not intervene.

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What if we knocked on your CCP door and locked you down in your system for months and extorted you claiming it was for a good cause? Would the game mechanic still allowed? Probably not.

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What if we knocked on your CCP door and locked you down in your system for months and extorted you claiming it was for a good cause? Would the game mechanic still allowed? Probably not.

I've spoken with the GM Team regarding this, and the decision is quite simple.

Corporate extortion via demand for payment to cease hostilities is a valid game mechanic.

I've spoken with the GM Team regarding this, and the decision is quite simple.

Corporate extortion via demand for payment to cease hostilities is a valid game mechanic.

If this valid game mechanic is being used as a method of raising ISK for a good cause, then CCP will not intervene.

I've spoken with the GM Team regarding this, and the decision is quite simple.

Corporate extortion via demand for payment to cease hostilities is a valid game mechanic.

If this valid game mechanic is being used as a method of raising ISK for a good cause, then CCP will not intervene.

Infantry Carrier Squad Delta
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What if we knocked on your CCP door and locked you down in your system for months and extorted you claiming it was for a good cause? Would the game mechanic still allowed? Probably not.

I've spoken with the GM Team regarding this, and the decision is quite simple.

Corporate extortion via demand for payment to cease hostilities is a valid game mechanic.

If this valid game mechanic is being used as a method of raising ISK for a good cause, then CCP will not intervene.

Of note: CCP do not approve of ransoming someone's ship or pod under the guise of "Donate to the charity or I blow you up", because they (fairly reasonably) don't want the worst of the pubbies complaining to the charity about it. (And yes, some will, some miners and the like are despicable human beings). So in ransom situations, demand the ISK or other assets come to you as normal, then honor or dishonor the ransom as you see fit, then convert the ransom into PLEX and donate to the fund through the proper channels.

Thank you for clarifying this. Has different advice been given to individual pirates re: ransoms or has that just been misreported?

For example, this post



https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3902836#post3902836

As far as I'm aware, this pirate asked the same question of the GM team and was told not to do this. Is the policy different for individual ransoms or does your statement in this thread over-ride any previous petition responses on the topic?

Deffinition: Extortion (also called shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense. Making a threat of violence which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence is sufficient to commit the offense. Exaction refers not only to extortion or the unlawful demanding and obtaining of something through force,[1] but additionally, in its formal definition, means the infliction of something such as pain and suffering or making somebody endure something unpleasant.[

Thanks for the "Deffinition". What's your point?

I've spoken with the GM Team regarding this, and the decision is quite simple.

Corporate extortion via demand for payment to cease hostilities is a valid game mechanic.

If this valid game mechanic is being used as a method of raising ISK for a good cause, then CCP will not intervene.

"We thought it would be a good idea to war dec alliances. And if they want to surrender they will have to donate a plex to the lex for good campaign. We just want to do something to support the Plex for good campaign of ccp".