Log in 1000 alts into system.

Invincible defense force, impossible to take system.

First off every Null Sec alliance is hard pressed to get 200 or more people to log in.

So you're saying that the 1000v1000 fights don't actually happen, and that your idea for breaking the game horribly isn't actually needed?

Well, that's a relief, since your idea for breaking the game horribly would break the game horribly.

Made me lol and coke came out my nose..... Thanks bud.

If you follow your logic then just everyone in your alliance to log in 1800 people camp system till the node crashes ?
People in null will not log in 1000 alts even if they did thats more alt accounts to plex. Speaking of abuse. How about this . Everyone log in at once crash the node reset the fight ? Which would you rather have 1 ) Stable node more strategic fights or simply allow the players the ability to crash the game on command.

Limit the number of players to a system = more strategic fights / no more tidi / no more node crashes

I can tell most of you have not lived in any high class worm holes. In order to bring any capital fleet into your enemies wormhole you have to do it over the course of days. Many many large capital fleet fights have taken place in wormholes that took planing/ tactics and took place of over the coarse of weeks. and guess what ?

I can tell most of you have not lived in any high class worm holes. In order to bring any capital fleet into your enemies wormhole you have to do it over the course of days. Many many large capital fleet fights have taken place in wormholes that took planing/ tactics and took place of over the coarse of weeks. and guess what ? The node didn't crash

No one would ever abuse that, I'm sure.

I can tell most of you have not lived in any high class worm holes. In order to bring any capital fleet into your enemies wormhole you have to do it over the course of days. Many many large capital fleet fights have taken place in wormholes that took planing/ tactics and took place of over the coarse of weeks. and guess what ? The node didn't crash

Not only will limiting the number of pilots to the system increase the strategic planning for fights but will open up Null sec to many more low sec/ high sec players that wish not to be apart of the null carebear Zergs. Null is broken / large fleet fights are broken this will fix that.

People are actually responding to this in a serious manner?
Come on...

Not only will limiting the number of players to a system help keep the node up but will also keep the large power blocks on there toes.

CCP has stated time and time again that the game in its current state cannot handle large number of players in system.
This has been known for years. We know there is never going to be a fix for the fact that the hardware/software can't handle the amount of stress that we the players can put on it. So instead of letting the players have control over whether or not to crash your node why not make a simple change to the game that keeps the node from crashing?
Limit the number of pilots to one system to 1000 players. Yes limit the number of players! It will create content. It will keep the server from crashing. No more tidi. You will see a different type of Null sec.
This idea is not new. Jita for example only what max of 2000 players on its super Node before traffic control kicks in. CCP regain control of your game and just simply limit the number of players to any one system to X to keep it up and running.
Thank you have a nice day!

There will never in our life time be a non crashable fight in Null sec.

How is this good ?

First off every Null Sec alliance is hard pressed to get 200 or more people to log in.

First off every Null Sec alliance is hard pressed to get 200 or more people to log in.
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So for the first time in a very long time we see a few Titian's used in a fight. What comes next crash. From now on keep your large fleets at home so there by limiting the number of pilots in the system already.

CCP has stated time and time again that the game in its current state cannot handle large number of players in system.
This has been known for years. We know there is never going to be a fix for the fact that the hardware/software can't handle the amount of stress that we the players can put on it. So instead of letting the players have control over whether or not to crash your node why not make a simple change to the game that keeps the node from crashing?
Limit the number of pilots to one system to 1000 players. Yes limit the number of players! It will create content. It will keep the server from crashing. No more tidi. You will see a different type of Null sec.
This idea is not new. Jita for example only what max of 2000 players on its super Node before traffic control kicks in. CCP regain control of your game and just simply limit the number of players to any one system to X to keep it up and running.
Thank you have a nice day!

Made me lol and coke came out my nose..... Thanks bud.

CCP has stated time and time again that the game in its current state cannot handle large number of players in system.
This has been known for years. We know there is never going to be a fix for the fact that the hardware/software can't handle the amount of stress that we the players can put on it. So instead of letting the players have control over whether or not to crash your node why not make a simple change to the game that keeps the node from crashing?
Limit the number of pilots to one system to 1000 players. Yes limit the number of players! It will create content. It will keep the server from crashing. No more tidi. You will see a different type of Null sec.
This idea is not new. Jita for example only what max of 2000 players on its super Node before traffic control kicks in. CCP regain control of your game and just simply limit the number of players to any one system to X to keep it up and running.
Thank you have a nice day!

I suggest you set your autopilot to g-0q86 at any given time and see how hard it is to get 200 people -not including alts- to log in to one system to sit idle in station.

Again for anyone that does not already know there is a limit on the number of pilots/players to any given system/node in EVE.
That number is already in place. It is not some new idea. It is here already. But by putting that number to a fixed point it will give the control of the game back to CCP and take it away from the players. If I can crash the node / stop the fight with one command how is that ok ?

If limiting the number of players is good enough for Jita why is it not good enough for low/null sec? If by limiting the number players keeps players from being able to crash the game/node / no more tidi / More of null sec open to be taken by more players/ gives CCP control of the game. Takes away from the large carebear zergs. You want that system fine camp it 24/7 while the rest of us take xyz .

Every system in EVE is already limited to the number of pilots.

If I can crash the node / stop the fight with one command how is that ok ?

The number of pilots in any one system has a limit b4 the node will crash.

How many large fleet fights have crashed ?

Yes you can crash the node with one command.

Tidi is not fun. Nodes crash . Jita has a limit.

Well the last 4 largest fleet fights have all crashed.

and btw I think Jita has its own server

Tidi is not the fix for node crash/ Null is broken / No large scale Titian on Titan fights ever.

Aralyn guess you have not been in many of the largest fights yet? Well the last 4 largest fleet fights have all crashed. Bigger fights= more tidi = more chance of node crashing. Why do you think there is a limit on the number of pilots on Jita ? and btw I think Jita has its own server. Tidi is not the fix for node crash/ Null is broken / No large scale Titian on Titan fights ever. No all out war. The game can't handle it. This is a way for people to be able to have fun w/o all this. You know this is a game right? Its not about having supper laggy fights ( tidi ). and the command to crash the node well lets just say with in the next 2 months you will see it happen again.

Giving the established large blocks an impenetrable advantage to always win every fight isn't one of those solutions



Really ? Yes they don't have the advantage now ?

The only people that benefit from the current game mechanics are the large scale blocks.

By limiting the number of players into a system will keep them in there system or they run risk of loosing it.

So many people want a massive open world pvp EVE well you can't have it sorry.

There is no fix for Null / Tidi is fun CCP continues to sell EVE as a game with Massive fleet battles. but don't tell ya there is huge laggy fights and if your lucky the game will not crash.

Really ? Yes they don't have the advantage now ?

By limiting the number of players into a system will keep them in there system or they run risk of loosing it.

So many people want a massive open world pvp EVE well you can't have it sorry.

Giving the established large blocks an impenetrable advantage to always win every fight isn't one of those solutions



Really ? Yes they don't have the advantage now ?

The only people that benefit from the current game mechanics are the large scale blocks.

By limiting the number of players into a system will keep them in there system or they run risk of loosing it.

So many people want a massive open world pvp EVE well you can't have it sorry.

There is no fix for Null / Tidi is fun CCP continues to sell EVE as a game with Massive fleet battles. but don't tell ya there is huge laggy fights and if your lucky the game will not crash.

For anyone that does not know. More ships are killed in Wars in highsec/low sec everyday than all of Null. w/o all the node crashing and yes there is some tidi at times in low but not much.

But I know that most of Null is full of carebears that like to put on a show every now and then but tbh its not working.

Another solution for nodes would be to stop using ****** OS on servers

The only! Only people that benefit from the current state of Null Sec/ large blog node crashing , tidi making fleet fights are the few people receiving there income from the carebear renter income.

CCP please regain control of your game fix null/ stop people from crashing the game. Open up Null to more people.

That solution also means porting to a multithread capable. May as well call that Eve2.

The only! Only people that benefit from the current state of Null Sec/ large blog node crashing , tidi making fleet fights are the few people receiving there income from the carebear renter income. These are the only ones. If its fights you are really looking for you would like so many already have create an alt and put him in BNI. CCP please regain control of your game fix null/ stop people from crashing the game. Open up Null to more people. The Zerg is broken.

The server code is not multithread capable ? This is far too big to be believed !
Honestly, are you serious ?

The server code is not multithread capable ? This is far too big to be believed !
Honestly, are you serious ?

All of these statements about being able to lock out people from a system/node are already in place.

There is not 1 person not 1 that can say that Tidi is a fix/ that Null is not broken.

Everyone complains about Null being broken. its really a simple fix. Limit the number of people in one system.

Why is it so hard for you to see it?

All of these statements about being able to lock out people from a system/node are already in place. They happen everyday.
There is not 1 person not 1 that can say that Tidi is a fix/ that Null is not broken. The game will never let me repeat this. Never be able to have the large scale fleet fights that everyone thinks happens. The hardware/ software will not allow it.

Everyone complains about Null being broken. its really a simple fix. Limit the number of people in one system.
Again the only people that benefit from these large null alliances are the few at the top who make there ISK on renter income.
The limit is already here we just have to put up with the node crashing to see it/ tidi.
Why is it so hard for you to see it?

I can understand that why certain people would want to keep the current state of Null "business as usual'.

Again the game in its current state is already limiting the number of players

Don't try and sell the idea that one Alliance or other would have a huge advantage over the other if the systems were limited to a number of pilots.

How many large Null alliances lost SOV due to huge fleet fights ? How many ? so your point is invalid.

How many people are allowed into Jita ? Oh Jita has its on Server btw. How many ?
If Jita is limited to a set number of players why is this not good for Null Sec/ low?

How many people are allowed into Jita ?

If Jita is limited to a set number of players why is this not good for Null Sec/ low?

Null is broken only people really living the dream are a select few.

By limiting the number of players into a system you make the largest alliances camp there systems if they want it bad enough.

The game being sold as open world single server Massive/ large scale fleet fights is False.

First off every Null Sec alliance is hard pressed to get 200 or more people to log in.
And in its current state the zerg is broken. You can not have many more than that atm w/o breaking the game. So your point is invalid.
By limiting the number of people it will make everyone in Null change there game play yes but will it break the game? No, cause people have to play different Yes.

Limit the number of People to a system.
No more tidi/crash

Keeps the large alliances either in there home system camping or out camping looking for more space

There is already a limit on the number of players in a system.

This would fix a lot of that

If limiting the number of players is good enough for Jita why is it not good enough for low/null sec?

Everyone already knows that more ships blow up in low / high sec everyday than all of Null. Only reason to have a Carrier is rat with in Null/ move stuff around. There is never going to be the fights that everyone wants to happen because the game can't handle it.

Null is not some mystery everyone already knows why Null is broken / large scale fleet fights are a joke.

Again the systems are already limiting the number of players

By limiting the number of pilots to a system it opens up more of Null stops Lag/crashes

More people in Null=Win

Everyone already knows that more ships blow up in low / high sec everyday than all of Null. Only reason to have a Carrier is rat with in Null/ move stuff around. There is never going to be the fights that everyone wants to happen because the game can't handle it.
Null is not some mystery everyone already knows why Null is broken / large scale fleet fights are a joke.
Why does BNI have over 5000 players ? Alts from every major Null Alliance looking for fun fights.
Again the systems are already limiting the number of players. Stop trying to sell EVE for what its not and face it for what it is.
Large scale fleet fights either end with Large amounts of Lag or the node crashing.

Null sec SoV is broken. Not one Alliance has lost Sov due to a large fleet battle.
By limiting the number of pilots to a system it opens up more of Null stops Lag/crashes


More people in Null=Win


Not a week goes by in the History of Eve where more ships didn't blow up in low/high sec. FACT

Maybe having a staged fight with preset fleets with both sides knowing what ship types is an answer.

Because the random nature that we all want does not work on a large scale. The game can't handle that.
Limit the number of pilots to a system like in Jita would change and shake up EVE to its roots.

Long term Alliances in Null ( making billions on renter income per month) would be the ones most affected by this.


Stable no lag/crashes pvp would be so nice. Limit the number of pilots to a system.

Its really that simple


and the 300 man Carrier fight did what ? Crash the game ? Tidi ? Sounds like fun :) What do Carrier pilots do outside of crashing the game ? :) We all know whats up just face it

Maybe having a staged fight with preset fleets with both sides knowing what ship types is an answer.

Because the random nature that we all want does not work on a large scale. The game can't handle that.

Limit the number of pilots to a system like in Jita would change and shake up EVE to its roots.

Stable no lag/crashes pvp would be so nice.

No one would ever abuse that, I'm sure.

......umm ok

So 4000 pilots in 6VDT.....how did that happen no node crash (maybe got close a couple times)

If limiting the number of players is good enough for Jita why is it not good enough for low/null sec? If by limiting the number players keeps players from being able to crash the game/node / no more tidi / More of null sec open to be taken by more players/ gives CCP control of the game. Takes away from the large carebear zergs. You want that system fine camp it 24/7 while the rest of us take xyz .

The only! Only people that benefit from the current state of Null Sec/ large blog node crashing , tidi making fleet fights are the few people receiving there income from the carebear renter income. These are the only ones.

http://www.jeffknupp.com/blog/2012/03/31/pythons-hardest-problem/

Its not hardware CCP has some of the best enterprise level server hardware on the market. But remember the code it 10 years old, so there are some things that are best not screwed with.

This guy is the most stupid dude in the game. Sure let's take away emergent gameplay.

Tippia, i have no idea how you keep trying to communicate with this guy.
He's clearly ignoring every response and keeps trolling.

Because of Poe's law.
For every troll, there will be 10 people who actually believe the same nonsense genuinely, so the troll becomes a handy proxy for addressing their ignorance.

Thanks for the link. Python falled a big step in my opinion :(

The saddest thing is that I have some workaround in minds, but they have probably be tried

(And who is the one who choosed python to build a server vs C++, and windows vs linux ?)

Thanks for the link. Python falled a big step in my opinion :(

The saddest thing is that I have some workaround in minds, but they have probably be tried

(And who is the one who choosed python to build a server vs C++, and windows vs linux ?)

If by keeping 1000k players in one system

Trying to put operations whose results have to be assembled in exactly the right order every time in real time onto different threads causes problems. Namely that they either get assembled in the wrong order sometimes, or the main process has to wait for one of the other threads (for one of any number of reasons).

ccp didn't think that an alliance would field that many caps with drones in a single system.

I don't think it's that hard if you partition your sets correctly. The issue is you have to build your architecture around doing it. But more importantly, you shouldn't be doing each operation with a python script.

I don't think it's that hard if you partition your sets correctly. The issue is you have to build your architecture around doing it. But more importantly, you shouldn't be doing each operation with a python script.

More to the point, if you can do a particle simulation like this with half a million points, in real-time, I don't see why you can't design an architecture to execute a game update for that many players in real-time. It's a 3 step process: (1) You queue operations bounded by a given time, you feed those operations in a useful form either to compute data structures, (2) You execute compute shaders to process the data, (3) You take your results and break them out into a suitable form for serialisation (database) and transmission (network).

The problem is that we're dealing with a several-thousand-will non-deterministic system that requires a lot of dynamism in how those sets are set up, and it's not hard to imagine a situation where the set-up takes more time than it saves to distribute the final workload among the sets.

Who benefits from the node crashing/laggy largest scale fights ? If you answer that question you will start to see that the only people that really want to keep the current state of Null/Sov laggy/node crashing/ meta gaming up and going.

Its only by thinking about the other 90% of EVE that you will start to understand that the Zerg/ mega alliance / Sov holding / epic 5000k vs 5000k fleet / Titian on Titan battles don't or will never work.

Open up Null for more players non Zerg / PvP minded players.

Limiting the number of players to a node/system will bring about more fights.

If you want your system fine stay logged in with your alts and camp it 24/7 np while the rest of us go take xyz

You will see more people leaving HS/Low going after SOV.

There will be fights with out lag/ crash

Jita Already has a player Cap


Again Who benefits from the large Alliance/corps ?

Renter income is too powerful for this idea to work I think but I still stand by my idea To fix the game with one simple solution. Put a limit on the number of players in one system.
The only ones that will be affected by this will be the ones that cause the Lag/crashes

Who benefits from the node crashing/laggy largest scale fights ?

Its only by thinking about the other 90% of EVE that you will start to understand that the Zerg/ mega alliance / Sov holding / epic 5000k vs 5000k fleet / Titian on Titan battles don't or will never work.

Open up Null for more players non Zerg / PvP minded players.

Jita Already has a player Cap

300 carriers letting out drones puts about the same cpu load on the node as 1500 people in local, that is assuming the carriers field only 5 drones each with none being abandoned.

assuming the enemy fleet brings in a similar drone fleet (domis or whatever), 600 people now output the same cpu load as 3000.

If you have 1800 pilots in local fielding at least 5 drones each, guess how much load is put on the node? OVER 9000!!!!

Null Sec in its current state only benefits the select few at the top.

CCP will not ever rewrite any sort of Code to fix tidi / node crashing. It can't be done sorry

By limiting the number of pilots to a system will make it so if you want that system camp it 24/7.

The days of Mega / Zerg fleet fights are dead the game can not handle it.

Null Sec in its current state only benefits the select few at the top. Renter income is the only real reason why to fight to keep null / Sov going. There is no other group in the game that will tell you that fighting in Tidi/ node crashing fleet fights is ok. Its not..


CCP will not ever rewrite any sort of Code to fix tidi / node crashing. It can't be done sorry

By limiting the number of pilots to a system will make it so if you want that system camp it 24/7.

There are only a few people in the game that have any sort of benefit to any fight over 500 vs 500 anyway. Why do it ? because you have the toys too.

The longer CCP allows this type of game play to go on the worse it will get. People are not ganing less SP.

You see many many non zergy, node crashing/ laggy groups with EVE either renting in Null or wondering about how they too could gain SOV.


The days of Mega / Zerg fleet fights are dead the game can not handle it.


Again who is it that benefits from the mega Zerg / client crashing fights ?

What would be more fun 1000 different people with SOV or just 3 groups that casue the game to break in so many ways

I say Shake it up to the Core!

All of the large fleet fights in Null/ Low Sec have been staged from the start ?

Open up Null to everyone keep it real . The zerg does not work for large fights.

Truthfully, I think TiDi generally goes the wrong direction.

When time slows down in game, it gives pilots tons of RL time to organize more people and move them to the fight. This creates 1000v1000 battles, which is good publicity, but will always be abused and pushed to the point that the system breaks (node crashes, slow-ass game play, etc).

Instead, if it is possible, speed up time instead of slow it down. As time speeds up, the time to escalate a fight diminishes. This rewards players pre-positioned to escallate. This also is self-correcting, as faster time means more people die which means less pilots on the field which results in less demand on the server.

Unfortunately, this would be extremely non-trivial to optimize. Speeding up the server adds load on the server now with the intention that the server's load will lesson as things come to a conclusion faster. There also might be some exploits this creates (suddenly you can increase your fleets dps by bringing so many people). I don't know if this is at all possible, but it is a conter-intuitive approach that might result in better overall gameplay.

On any given day there are more ships blown up in Low sec / High sec.

To say you can't crash a node is pretty silly tbh. It can happen pretty easy.

Null is broken

When do you think that you will see Titans used again in a large scale battle ? w/o the node crashing.
When will you see 200+ Carriers vs 200+ Dreads w/o the node crashing ?

Ok whats to stop the next fight from crashing again?

Its simple really!

Truthfully, I think TiDi generally goes the wrong direction.

When time slows down in game, it gives pilots tons of RL time to organize more people and move them to the fight. This creates 1000v1000 battles, which is good publicity, but will always be abused and pushed to the point that the system breaks (node crashes, slow-ass game play, etc).

Instead, if it is possible, speed up time instead of slow it down. As time speeds up, the time to escalate a fight diminishes. This rewards players pre-positioned to escallate. This also is self-correcting, as faster time means more people die which means less pilots on the field which results in less demand on the server.

Unfortunately, this would be extremely non-trivial to optimize. Speeding up the server adds load on the server now with the intention that the server's load will lesson as things come to a conclusion faster. There also might be some exploits this creates (suddenly you can increase your fleets dps by bringing so many people). I don't know if this is at all possible, but it is a conter-intuitive approach that might result in better overall gameplay.

Not only will limiting the number of pilots to the system increase the strategic planning for fights but will open up Null sec to many more low sec/ high sec players that wish not to be apart of the null carebear Zergs. Null is broken / large fleet fights are broken this will fix that.

How about this:

If the node crashes, there is a percentage chance that any ships in that node are totally destroyed, and pilots podded.
Suddenly there is risk involved with crashing a node.

Of course, that means that people will just flood a system with T1 frigs if there are any supercaps in that node.

There is simply no solution for this blob-sec problem.
But it is just that, a blob-sec problem, that only affects a tiny percent of the overall subscription base.

And CCP should just stop throwing any resources at it, and focus those resources on the majority of the sub base.

Time isn't slowing down as a cosmetic feature. It's actually the core mechanism by which Tidi works as advertised, allowing more real time for the server to keep up with the activity going on in the slowed game time. Sped up Tidi only makes sense if you thought pre-tidi node crashes and selective unplayability didn't happen fast enough. It's not so much a solution as an attempt to turn a few hundred people in a system into a node death sentence.

Limiting the number of people in local is nothing new ?

As the game is now you can't have X number of people in a system w/o the node crashing so whats the difference by putting a number on it ?

Node crashing alliances/corps at there will is ok ?

New game Mechanic ( you have my Titian pointed ) log in fast fast jump Crash ships saved..... Insert witty comment here ?

Limiting the number of people in local is nothing new ? As the game is now you can't have X number of people in a system w/o the node crashing so whats the difference by putting a number on it ?

Put the Number it takes to crash a node out in the open. So we all know what the Cap of players is on that system.


Tidi fights are fun. ? Node crashing alliances/corps at there will is ok ?



The system is already in place with every tidi fight there is a cap.

With every node crash guess what you have reached the player limit on that node/system.

Its simple really!

By limiting the number of people to a system ( like in Jita ) CCP remains in control, not the players.

How many people in Null really do enjoy tidi fights ?

How many fights in the past year have ended in a node crashing ?

copy paste the same crap for the 20th time

How many large fleet fights this year ended with a crash ?

I'm aware of why TiDi was implemented: The server can hold only so much load, and slowing down game time eases the load on the server. This is brilliant, especially since it helped alleviate some of the major lag issues that plagued fleet battles. At the same time, it has a very adverse affect: Players will always push the server to maximum given the opportunity, and the slowing down of game time results in more opportunity for a response. This positive feedback loop results in more pilots which mean more load. The reason people keep proposing really stupid ideas like system limits, is to deny pilots the ability to overload the server. I'm not sure speeding up time is at all pragmatic, but it is a feedback system that limits the "time-frame" of most engagements.

People are afraid of change.

A new game mechanic such as limiting the number of people to a system would

Not really, no. They just don't like it when their game gets broken for not particular reason.

GǪbreak the game infinitely more than the rare node crash does (but then, node crashes don't particularly break the game to begin with so that's no real surprise).

Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
Everything who's blue to me is who I call
When we're together.
Faster than a crashing node.
When you're here the ships all disappear
Dear and I feel so fine.
Just to know that node is fine.
My life is sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
That's how this capfight goes.
So come on Join In. Everybody.

People are afraid of change.

Do tell us.

You must obviously know. You keep bringing up how big of a problem it is. So you must have some concrete evidence of it being a significant issue.

It is not up to me to prove or disprove anything.

Go look it up for yourself.

But this is a fact: There is a limit on the number of people you can put into a fight before the system will crash.

Fact Fiction 2 : Null Sec large Zerg fights don't benefit anyone

Fact Fiction 3 : No null Sec Sov has ever been lost or gained due to a single Zerg/ fight.

It is not up to me to prove or disprove anything. Go look it up for yourself.

But this is a fact: There is a limit on the number of people you can put into a fight before the system will crash.

That limit is already in the game.

Fact 2 : Null Sec large Zerg fights don't benefit anyone

Fact 3 : No null Sec Sov has ever been lost or gained due to a single Zerg/ fight.

There is a limit already in place on the number of people in a system before it will crash.

Again the lords of Null would have you believe that EVE is fine and that by having Player controlled system crashes is ok.

Jita has a limit on players but thats ok with the Null bears.

So again who is it that benefits from the tidi fights ? The node crashing fights ?

Again the lords of Null would have you believe that EVE is fine and that by having Player controlled system crashes is ok.
They will spin any story horror and all how things are all fine in Null.

But to 99% of the players in Null that are in the tidi fights We know its not.

Jita has a limit on players but thats ok with the Null bears.

The people at the top of the food chain ( renter income ) say its all fine you should be happy to pvp here we have SRP.

But for most of EVE 99.9% of everyone hates tidi fights. Not one person likes the node crash.

So again who is it that benefits from the tidi fights ? The node crashing fights ?


Who enjoys those types of fights.?


Why fight in these fights ?

Who really comes out on top ?


Select few at the top is who

Fact 3 : No null Sec Sov has ever been lost or gained due to a single Zerg/ fight.

CCP has stated time and time again that the game in its current state cannot handle large number of players in system.
This has been known for years. We know there is never going to be a fix for the fact that the hardware/software can't handle the amount of stress that we the players can put on it. So instead of letting the players have control over whether or not to crash your node why not make a simple change to the game that keeps the node from crashing?
Limit the number of pilots to one system to 1000 players. Yes limit the number of players! It will create content. It will keep the server from crashing. No more tidi. You will see a different type of Null sec.
This idea is not new. Jita for example only what max of 2000 players on its super Node before traffic control kicks in. CCP regain control of your game and just simply limit the number of players to any one system to X to keep it up and running.
Thank you have a nice day!

Player controlled system crashes

Would it allow more people to be able to contend for SOV ? Yes
Would the older Vets have to work a bit harder to keep what they have ? Yes

Has any one fight in all of EVE been the deciding factor to any Null Sov ? No

Would limiting the number of players to a system ( which we already have btw ) break the game ? No

Is Null Sec Sov broken atm ? Yes
Are larger than life battles broken ? Yes

If CCP were to come out tomorrow and say ok guys the player limit in any system from now on is X.

Would that stop null bears from pvp'ing ?

Would it allow more people to be able to contend for SOV ?

Has any one fight in all of EVE been the deciding factor to any Null Sov ? No

not the tidi fights where we can all bring our ratting Carriers out and have some fun.

Would limiting the number of players to a system ( which we already have btw ) break the game ?

The math is right here already :
The game can only handle so many people in one system at a time

Should CCP micro manage what the players are doing in each system ? No

Would having a limit on the players in system would break up the tidi fights / game crashing. YES

No one / Not one person enjoys the game crashing/Tidi fights.

Limit the number of people to one system is already in place.

Outside of a few forum fall worriers People would love it

There is a Fix: Limit the number of players to any one system.

It would give the much smaller corps / alliances a chance at having some Null Sov.

It would produce many more smaller scale ( no game crashing ) fights

If CCP were to come out tomorrow and say ok guys the player limit in any system from now on is X.

Would that stop null bears from pvp'ing ? Not at all
Would it allow more people to be able to contend for SOV ? Yes
Would the older Vets have to work a bit harder to keep what they have ? Yes


Has any one fight in all of EVE been the deciding factor to any Null Sov ? No
More smaller scale fights have. not the game breaking on command type we have now
not the tidi fights where we can all bring our ratting Carriers out and have some fun.


Would limiting the number of players to a system ( which we already have btw ) break the game ? No

Is Null Sec Sov broken atm ? Yes
Are larger than life battles broken ? Yes

The Null Bears would like to tell you the horrors of living in Null and how game breaking it would be to limit the number of players to a system. ( That limit is already in the game )

No one likes tidi fights
Why do people show up for tidi fights ?

Why on any given day of the week there more ships blown up in HighSec/ Low Sec than all of Null ?

Who by having a limit ( which is already in place ) on the number of players in a system benefits from this ?

Limiting the number of players to a system would increase the quality of PVP/game play.

There is a limit on how many people can be in one system before the game breaks

For every post that is put up on the forums about how to fix tidi/ game crashing/ Sov / Null. They all end with trolls ( derailment )

Limiting the number of people in any one system will stop the game from crashing.

Limiting the number of people would increase the quality of game play.

Limiting the number of people to one system would allow for smaller corps/alliances to have a chance at having some SoV

No one likes tidi fights

What would Eve be like with out Tidi ?

What would Null Sov look like today if there were a limit on the number of players in any one system ?

Limit the number of players would fix so many issues that the game has.

Limiting the number of players to any one system would do nothing but help.

Who benefits from these tidi fights ?

Limit the number of players to a system would stop tidi / no more game crashes.

There is already a limit to the number of players to any one system ( jita ) ( before the game will crash is a limit )

Limit the number of players to any one system would solve all this.

Open up Null more to newer alliances/corps

Limit the number of players to a system would stop tidi / no more game crashes.

There is already a limit to the number of players to any one system ( jita )

Limit the number of players to any one system would solve all this.

Open up Null more to newer alliances/corps

There is only a hand full of people that benefit from game crashing / tidi fights in Null.

The limit of players to each system is already in place ( Jita )

Put that limit in place with fixed numbers would give us all a much better game play.

The only people that benefit from the current state of the game ( tidi fights ) ( game crashing ) fights are who ?

Who benefits from these fights really?

Put a limit on the number of players

CCP regain control of our game please!

Limit the number of players to a system

That limit is already in place just make it solid so there will not have to be tidi ( game crashes )

Fewer and fewer line of text. Running out of steam? Don't quit now. I think you almost have Tippia convinced. You just need to stick to the facts like you've been doing so far.

Facts are this no one enjoys Tidi / player controlled game crashes

Limit the number of players to any one system will fix both.

Any given day more ships are blown up in HS/low sec than all of Null.

Why would not want to help the game?

Limit the number of players to any one system would fix both tidi and ( player controlled crashes) just log more into the system

Give many more smaller alliances a chance to enter Null / Sov warfare w/o having to be a part of the tidi/game crashing Zergs

CCP has stated time and time again that the game in its current state cannot handle large number of players in system.
This has been known for years. We know there is never going to be a fix for the fact that the hardware/software can't handle the amount of stress that we the players can put on it. So instead of letting the players have control over whether or not to crash your node why not make a simple change to the game that keeps the node from crashing?
Limit the number of pilots to one system to 1000 players. Yes limit the number of players! It will create content. It will keep the server from crashing. No more tidi. You will see a different type of Null sec.
This idea is not new. Jita for example only what max of 2000 players on its super Node before traffic control kicks in. CCP regain control of your game and just simply limit the number of players to any one system to X to keep it up and running.

This again will fix the game

Limiting the number of players will stop the game from crashing

Open up Sov for smaller alliances/corps

Limit the number of players will only bring quality pvp