or cry. pirate tears are the best tears.

or cry. pirate tears are the best tears.

The MSI decreases risk to ratters, the group which is already at less risk between the two.

I have never, as a ratter, thought that I needed to be safer.

Comcast scan probes

Not Xfinity scan probes? Those are much better! (they have a different skin)

For the first time in EVE, pirates will be forced to take risks if they want a better chance at the rewards.

You keep repeating that. Have you ever taken the risk of having no information at all? Minimize local, don't use d-scan, and try to calculate what "risks" you can take. Can you warp to that belt safely? Is there a guy waiting for you in that anomaly? Is this FW complex going to have just a rat in it, a farmer who just warps out, a solo pvper, or a gang of 10 guys who alpha you? Who knows?

So how can you overcome this? Scouting? What if you're solo, or if dedicating a ship of your gang to being a disposable scout would cripple the fleet? Use alts or have a bigger fleet? In other words, multiboxing and blobbing, both very dirty words for very limiting and unfriendly playstyles.


Just clarifying... that's the risk you're looking for, and its effects?

people say, " well whut if there is a bunch of MSI in the system, then the bears will have a lots of time to see the probes!! We will nevur catch em!"

If someone has invested into multiple MSI, cutting into their profits, they deserve the extra protection. This is just what you pirates are always telling people about taking precautions to not get exploded. If you want to counter this you can easily bring more people and then you will be able to scan down multiple MSI quickly and have a better chance of the probes not being detected. You have the tools at your disposal but you refuse to use them. It is shameful how some people are opposed to these great mechanics that will bring more challenging game play and risk/ reward to the game for pirates where it hardly existed before.

There's a big difference between having extra protection and having every advantage there is.

Bullshit. Thats what you bear-rats have had for years. How do you think you are entitled to blow up another player that doesn't make any mistakes?

God forbid pirates should have to take any real risks, right?

Sorry kids, 100% intel days are over. Time to HTFU. Adapt or die.

Yes, because not being prepared to fight and not stopping whatever you're doing and getting prepared to defend yourself or at least hide when someone comes in is not making a mistake. Of course.

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There is no positive aspect to the MSI as far as PVP is concerned.

It is certainly not going to encourage more PVP.

It is just a vocal minority spamming the thread with one-sided nonsense. They are absolutely livid and afraid over the thought that EVE might get a little harder for them and that they might actually have to use their brain to get kills. The MSI is an excellent tool that will force aggressors to take risks for a change while simultaneously providing a much needed layer of protection for PVE ops. Adapt or die.

Bullshit. Thats what you bear-rats have had for years. How do you think you are entitled to blow up another player that doesn't make any mistakes?

Why should aggressors have all the advantages? If anything, defenders should have the advantage. God forbid pirates should have to take any real risks, right?
Sorry kids, 100% intel days are over. Time to HTFU.

If you are hunting, it means your prey could potentially setup a trap for you, assuming you rashly warp into an anomaly with one of these on scan. Their price & size is prohibitive enough to prevent endless spamming of these, so it is not likely to be there unless a trap is being laid.

If you are worried about escaping, These things DONT COVER GATES. 75 km's - 40 km's means any body "hidden" by an MSI is at least 30 km's off a gate. Don't warp gate to gate when you see this on scan, and bounce off an unaligned celestial.

I'm saying you need to use your head, and these things won't inhibit you at all!

Sorry kids, 100% intel days are over. Time to HTFU.

So you'd be fine of course if they nuked local at the same time as putting this mod in then right, I mean you're against 100% intel after all aren't you?

So you'd be fine of course if they nuked local at the same time as putting this mod in then right, I mean you're against 100% intel after all aren't you?

the msi thing is basically "the bears wet dreams come true";
bye-bye solo/small roaming gangs running around;

if anything, this structure will encourage even more the "afk cloak camping"; instead of running around 100 jumps and catch nothing, it will be more easy/less time consuming/more rewarding to just get some t3 nullified/probbing alts in a farming constellation and use a covert cyno to jump/kill things

about the mobile mjd unit:
did you finally just managed to get a good bubble on that pesky hac/t3/whaterver sniper gang,? time to ki... oh wait they are now 100 km away from your bubble...
sniping your tackle ...
and this ^^ is just one example;
this thing will make warp distruptor point kind of useless and with that the kitting ships also : you got tackled by a small ship that won't come in your web/scrambler range? don't worry, deploy the mjd thing and jump away...

i should, like allot of other ppl, say that thise structures are more game breaking that beneficial and not nedded;
i wont do that tho, since i know that ccp, will go ahead and deploy them anyway adding the customary "we will keep an aye on it and tune it if we see the need"



oh, and speaking of keeping your eyes on stuff and that, are there any plans to "tweak" the mobile depot so that ppl cant use it to refit stabs in mid fight and run away? or is this "working as intended"?

The truth is, whenever you see these on scan, that will certainly mean someone is doing something they want to keep clandestine. That screams explore here for content to me, and is exactly why I think they are a good idea.

Mobile Micro Jump Unit
Right now we have the base version set to 20s module activation time, 48hr lifetime, 25k ehp (mostly structure), 50m3 volume and a build cost of about 1m isk. Micro Jump spoolup is 12s like an unskilled MJD. Current activation range is 2500m but we're already leaning towards expanding that.

Mobile Scan Inhibitor
Current stats are 60s activation time, 2h lifetime, 45k ehp (once again mostly structure), 50m3 volume and a build cost of ~5m isk. Like I said above, it has an effective radius of 30km, meaning that even if you're at the edge, someone warping to 0 on it can still catch you fairly easily, especially with inties.

We, rampaging solo carebears, welcome those new structures. Exactly the way they are suggested.