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Isadie
suddenly nyx
Cap Stable.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:22:00 -
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Kristoffon vonDrake wrote:Please stop ruining the game just for the sake of piling new stuff on it. Thank you.
this. wtf is wrong with you CCP? |
NearNihil
Every time is Fuwa time
102
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:29:00 -
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The MSI hides EVERYTHING in its radius? Does this include Cosmic Anomalies/Signatures, bubbles, POS mods? Bombs? Cynos? |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
156
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:30:00 -
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So what is the point of the Scan disruptor? To put 3 or 4 up around the system and cause scanner pilots some seconds delay? Now people are going to scan those instead of the harder to scan down ships, after they dscan'd for wrecks... A joke. 
Give us some timers for the MJD, not such jokes. |
muhadin
Origin.
Black Legion.
173
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:30:00 -
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You did not specify whether the Mobile Scan Unit will be useable on wormholes?
Also i hope you are planning on adding the micro jump drive disruptor bubbles, if not then adding this new mjd module is a terrible idea.
"Love the Life you Live, Live the Life you Love" |
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Origin.
Black Legion.
332
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:32:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:Can cloaked ships use the MJD unit and and if yes remain cloaked while doing so?
Can HICs use it with their bubble up?
Questions needing answers In its current iteration the answer to both is yes. We're not dead set on keeping that as is however.
I may not have your insight and data on this but I KIND OF think it'd be a little uncool to keep that as is.
No sig. |
Erasmus Phoenix
Balls to the Walls
No Response
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:34:00 -
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The MJD thing is... odd, but I suppose it could be interesting. The scan inhibitor, on the other hand, will be broken in wormholes and broken in FW. Wormholes rely on dscan, and there are already ways to hide yourself from it or to take advantage of someone not paying enough attention.
All this is going to lead to is covops ships spamming fifty of these all over someone's wormhole, making sure they can't possibly check all of them before a fleet is formed up and ready. It's going to be hell getting information.
And being able to completely block information about what is in an FW plex will add yet another factor disincentivising fights. Can't warp directly to the inhibitor, can't dscan, have to throw yourself blindly in.
It needs to be unable to be put up within a plex, and there needs to be something balancing it or making its use exceptional for wormholes. |
Winthorp
Sky Fighters
568
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:34:00 -
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CCP teaching noobs that learning how to dscan is not needed, just pop probes and do a 1 pass scan to find the fleet. |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
155
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:36:00 -
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What happens if you light a cyno in the scan inhibitor? Does it still appear on overview? Can you mjd with cyno up? What happens if you put scan inhibitor on a scan sig?
Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:37:00 -
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Quick question: are the new deployables able to be shot in highsec without incurring the wrath of CONCORD, like the MTU/yurts?
This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Ethel Rose
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:39:00 -
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Now for the local chat inhib. Get on it CCP. |
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Theon Severasse
Sniggwaffe
WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:39:00 -
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Both of these things need to be stopped from being able to anchor in FW plexes, since they will essentially stop a lot of PvP from happening - who is seriously going to enter an FW plex that is scan cloaked unless they are in a blob?
They are also impossible to kill in practical terms by the ships that are able to enter them, since the MJU is about the EHP of a cruiser, whilst the MSI is about the EHP of a battlecruiser. |
Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
20
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:44:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:Can cloaked ships use the MJD unit and and if yes remain cloaked while doing so?
Can HICs use it with their bubble up?
Questions needing answers In its current iteration the answer to both is yes. We're not dead set on keeping that as is however.
You are joking right? |
Vinyl 41
Perkone Academy
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:44:00 -
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so with the introduction of the MJU what type of buff / change will the large MJD get ? pls CCP dont state that the faster spool time is rly worth it when we get a huge cap consumtion and a cd on it |
Tertius Tallang
House Tallang Glorious Legion
0
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:46:00 -
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Three suggestions that immediately come to mind:
- Disable scan disruption unit use inside deadspace. Being forced to warp at zero into deadspace without any way of knowing what you're warping into is stupid, stupid, stupid.
- Make scan disruption units beacons on the overview similar to cynos. Complete disruption of any not-on-grid intel gathering is an immensely powerful tool (especially when paired with well-placed bubbles - as the disruption unit is now the only warpable thing on the grid, you know exactly that anything warping to the unit (even at range) will get caught in a bubble and quite likely decloaked if your inties are good). They need some sort of noticable disadvantage - an immediate "here's someone trying to hide something" marker on the overview is a good start.
- Alternately, prevent anyone in the area of effect of a scan disruption unit from using DScan themselves and commanding their probes (warping to previously-scanned results is fine, obviously).
Also, the Micro Jump Unit seems like a hardly-thought-out gimmick that serves no real purpose except "ooh shiny". Incidentally, they're also a perfect 100% guaranteed way of escaping a noscram inty if you have them down before getting jumped - pre-aligned MJU use means even if the inty pilot also activates the unit on the same tick, they'd still lose lock and you could simply warp out during that second. I'm not sure if that's really something that improves the game in any way. |
Matthias Duran
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
43
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:47:00 -
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Since the only way to tell what's at one of the scan inhibitors is to warp onto its grid, how is it going to interact with bubbles, particularly if you then surround it with smartbombing BS just inside the inhibitor's radius? |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
682
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:52:00 -
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If you could just make wormholes immune to most changes in Eve, that would greeeeeeeeeeeeat.
No trolling please |
Vatek
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:52:00 -
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Just what we need, more things that make nullsec ratters even safer! Warp disruptors are now obsolete, better fit scrams on everything because even a ratting ship that doesn't fit an MJD can still MJD away!
Scrap both of these, they're ****. |
Grunanca
Doughboys
Shadow Cartel
117
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:53:00 -
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Matthias Duran wrote:Since the only way to tell what's at one of the scan inhibitors is to warp onto its grid, how is it going to interact with bubbles, particularly if you then surround it with smartbombing BS just inside the inhibitor's radius?
And now add the smatbombing battleships in low sec you can no long see, that doesnt even need MJD anymore to get away. I have a really hard time seeing how these are gonna improve the game more than they damage it:-s |
Alexander McKeon
The Suicide Express
34
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:54:00 -
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I believe that in the current iteration, the scan disruptor provides too great a margin of safety for PvE fleets in C5/C6 W-Space; Just anchor a few dozen of these around your system before rolling out the PvE capital fleet, and by the time any hostiles roll into your system and have correctly identified which site you're in, all assets will have gotten off the field.
If by 'east to scan down' you mean that a 16 or 32-AU scan will resolve them in a single cycle, that might be tolerable, but likely still tilts the advantage too much towards the defender. |
Capqu
Love Squad
387
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:54:00 -
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is there a reason for adding this free-extra-slot-mjd gimmick for all ships before you try introducing smaller versions of the already existing mjd?
why exactly have you gone from "only usable on battleships, requires a midslot and a lot of fitting" to the opera winfrey style of "you get an mjd, and you get an mjd, mjds for everyone in the audience"
just seems like adding content for the sake of content without any real thought behind it
http://pizza.eve-kill.net |
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Tytos Khamez
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP
Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:56:00 -
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What does the MSI do to a cyno lit inside of it? How does that appear on the overview and/or dscan? |
Berluth Luthian
Meltdown.
172
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:01:00 -
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Can CONCORD see me do illegal things near this MSU? Also, CONCORD scrams you right? So you couldn't micro jump away? |
Burl en Daire
The Ecstatic Cult of Dionysus
Trifectas Syndicate
28
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:01:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:The Mobile Scan Inhibitor could be cool but it should be a permanent structure than can be re-scooped IMHO.
The mobile micro jump unit sound interesting at first but i struggle to think of any good application for it other than letting ships avoid bombing fleets.
12s spool up and bombs only have 10s flight time. It would be a tight squeeze when jumping. |
M5 Tuttle
Deadly Harmony
Fidelas Constans
60
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:03:00 -
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Balance issues aside, its great that CCP is adding new mechanics to the game with these mobile structures. A think a lot of the hate in this thread is not necessary aimed at the mechanics themselves but at potential exploitation. The other mobile structures are seeing a fair amount of use and haven't totally broken the game yet, so I hope that trend will continue with these.
Hopefully CCP will err on the side caution and release them in a more underpowered state, then buff them later if they are unusable. |
Joshu Mumon
Four Corners Exploration
Unsung Voices
14
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:04:00 -
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Tertius Tallang wrote:Three suggestions that immediately come to mind:
- Disable scan disruption unit use inside deadspace. Being forced to warp at zero into deadspace without any way of knowing what you're warping into is stupid, stupid, stupid.
This came to mind for me as well.
If an inhibitor is used in space you can still warp on grid at 100km.
If someone drops an inhibitor after activating an acceleration gate, it leaves no way to know what is hiding without someone else warping right on top of it.
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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
8807
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:05:00 -
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Tytos Khamez wrote:What does the MSI do to a cyno lit inside of it? How does that appear on the overview and/or dscan?
The Scan Inhib does not prevent anything from showing up on overviews or the discovery scanner. So beacons such as cynos will still appear.
Thanks for the feedback so far everyone. We'll be discussing everything brought up in this thread with the team tomorrow.
It's 7 here so I'm off to get some dinner, have a good night.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
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Powers Sa
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:06:00 -
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What are the mass restrictions on mobile jump thingies? will freighters and titans be able to use them?
"We are currently planning to set the mass restrictions such that freighters can use it but anything larger is blocked."
Please no. If i'm bumping a freighter for ransom, and he drops one of these, then peaces out, then this will be just like a GM moved him.
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Kerplakershtat Rova
EVE University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:07:00 -
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Can MMJDs work while in a bubble? |
Grunanca
Doughboys
Shadow Cartel
118
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:08:00 -
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M5 Tuttle wrote:Balance issues aside, its great that CCP is adding new mechanics to the game with these mobile structures. A think a lot of the hate in this thread is not necessary aimed at the mechanics themselves but at potential exploitation. The other mobile structures are seeing a fair amount of use and haven't totally broken the game yet, so I hope that trend will continue with these.
Hopefully CCP will err on the side caution and release them in a more underpowered state, then buff them later if they are unusable.
What the difference in your opinion brtween use and exploitation? Because all I see is posts about how legitimate use of the structures will be making a worse game, not a better. In EVE people use everything to the full potential, so if something is possible with it, it will be done!
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
Origin.
Black Legion.
332
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:08:00 -
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Kerplakershtat Rova wrote:Can MMJDs work while in a bubble?
yes
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