Basically nerf now, buff later if needed. Fair enough. One of the biggest things that stood out to me was the the MMJU will have 5k EHP and a 1min activation time. If I'm reading that right, it means I hit the jump button on the MMJU and a minute later I micro-jump 100km away.

Seems like an awfully long time. Hopefully I'm reading it wrong.

You guys aren't making any sense but tbh, i don't care anymore. The Jump unit will hardly ever be used in PVP but if you disagree, then please describe a scenario in which you could deploy these things in battle without them being instantly reinforced.

That is a challenge?

Ok.. Simple so might be better examples.

You want to ambush on entrance of a gate, put a bubble.. smartbomb battleships.. and about 8 km ahea some of these units. WHen their scouts come trough you explode them.. and if enemy heavy forces arrive you use the units to get the F out after a short movment

There are several other options. But The thing is this is not a REACTION tool. That is more like a preparation of battlefield.

You just picked the worst example which says it all really... Try asking yourself why you would use this structure in conjunction with a battle ship when you could just fit a MJD to your ship and escape in half the time.

No, i am completely oblivious to the fact that you can fit modules to ships in eve.

Face it, your scenario is unrealistic for multiple reason the primary one being that if you are not in range to smartbomb your own structures, it will take you a minimum of 6 seconds to get in activation range and and additional 12 seconds to micro jump. The hostile fleet will be all over you in that time and any fleet worth their salt will have dedicated tackle with scrams fitted.

Feel free to take your time and come up with a better example as to how these will be used in PVP. I'll wait...

You guys aren't making any sense but tbh, i don't care anymore. The Jump unit will hardly ever be used in PVP but if you disagree, then please describe a scenario in which you could deploy these things in battle without them being instantly reinforced.

Mobile Scan Inhibitor

This structure prevents anything inside its 30km radius from appearing on either DScan or Probe Scans. The Scan Inhibitor structure itself however does show up on both types of scan and is very easy to probe down. So you can prevent people from knowing what is inside it but you can't prevent people from knowing that something is there.

This wouldn't bother me as a mechanic if it weren't for the fact that mounting an expanded probe launcher to scan it down ties up so much of a ship's resources and a lot just can't fit one period. This virtually eliminates the possibility of anyone using one of these getting caught in a solo pvp type situation.

I'm not sure i get it?
Did you read this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4092615#post4092615 ?

There are many scenarios for small and medscale fights in which the MMJU still can be used but not abused aka 100% get out of jail free card. Do not forget that every time MMJUs are dropped it is additional EHP the other gang has to kill or deal with the enemy gtfo or deal with tanky ships got in too close.

MMJUs are stationary. Three nano cruisers sporting 300 dps apiece will kill it in six seconds. Their drones can probably kill it before it finishes winding up. Meanwhile, the brawling gang can't move very far from the MMJU if they intend to remain in range to use it once it is done anchoring, if by some miracle it survives.

Hey Fozzie... and about the POS revamp? is that the big project that you guys are working with?

NDA?

Ok...

You guys aren't making any sense but tbh, i don't care anymore. The Jump unit will hardly ever be used in PVP but if you disagree, then please describe a scenario in which you could deploy these things in battle without them being instantly reinforced.

Feel free to take your time and come up with a better example as to how these will be used in PVP. I'll wait...

As others have noted, the Mobile Scan Inhibitor can allow a fleet to conceal its composition in nullsec or in FW against aggressors.

A problem I see with these deployables is just this, they're geared toward the defender. "Defender" in a general sense can be the ones already inside the plex, the ones camping a gate, the missioners, the ratters and so on. In general is the one already in a place managing their own business decide if, where and when set up this.

I think this is bad because if "defending" is the more convenient option everyone will prefer to defend, and if everyone defends nothing happens. It promotes static gameplay.

On the countrary I think in the current state EVE need to stimulate active/aggression gameplay.

Of course the CSM isn't the only source for feedback but they are an important one. Our election system does a very good job of accurately representing the subset of the playerbase that cares enough to click a few buttons and in my experience they have provided a very useful pool of players who work very hard to help us improve the game.

We never limit ourselves just to one group's feedback, but for me to ignore the CSM or disrespect the valuable effort they put in would be to do the community and the game a disservice.


We need to both add new things and fix older ones. I tend to fall into the camp that prizes revamping and converting older systems highly but to focus on just one or the other would leave us with missed opportunities to improve the game as a whole.

For every player that provides us the "Stop adding things and just fix stuff" feedback, there's another player that asks us to "Stop fixing stuff and just add things". Neither perspective is entirely wrong, but neither is entirely correct either.

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Ok everyone, here is our first round of changes since the beginning of public feedback. These are some quite large changes but we think the end result is a much stronger design.

Mobile Micro Jump Unit

We're cutting the EHP of the structure by 80%, to 5000hp.
We're increasing the time that the MJU takes to activate to 1 minute.
We're increasing the range at which the MJU can be used to 5000m.
We're increasing the minimum range from other MJU structures to 10km.
We're disabling the ability to jump while cloaked.

A problem I see with these deployables is just this, they're geared toward the defender. "Defender" in a general sense can be the ones already inside the plex, the ones camping a gate, the missioners, the ratters and so on. In general is the one already in a place managing their own business decide if, where and when set up this.

I think this is bad because if "defending" is the more convenient option everyone will prefer to defend, and if everyone defends nothing happens. It promotes static gameplay.

On the countrary I think in the current state EVE need to stimulate active/aggression gameplay.