Can you show me any posts of said alliance mates touting off about their prowess camping gates?

Because, that's kind of the point and all.

Whatever people in your alliance may think about their prowess camping gates is of no concern to me. I don't understand what gave you the impression that I cared about PL. I'm just here to have fun with Goons.

Well given that your balls deep in Gevlon logic, by posting about it, obviously you care.

If you want to go ahead and just say that you're sorry and wrong, that works too.

I've just checked the in-game war history. 99.6% ISK efficiency. Not bad from randomly invited carebear alts.

I've known that Goons are horrible, but this result still surprises me!

Yes you can get pretty high KB efficiency by staying in docking range of 4-4 and shooting wartargets, who knew?

Meanwhile you should write up some more verbose garbage to tell everyone how this is crippling us

Just saw one of the finest work of a goon member :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21398904

I believed that when you grow as a alliance or you improve yourself as a player, you standards will become higher but I guess it's not the same for all .

As with anyone else, what that guys chooses to do with his time is his choice.

Priceless!

Might want to heed your own advice a bit

I'm not very good at nullbear politics but can anyone clarify the relation between space monkeys and goons, please?
From what I can see, they are equally bad at hisec but are there any other links?

D.

A wiseman once told this wee land noob, "Do not **** with the Goonswarm"

Just saw one of the finest work of a goon member :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21398904

I believed that when you grow as a alliance or you improve yourself as a player, you standards will become higher but i guess it's not the same for all .

I still can't get my head around how anyone thinks their dock / gate camping ~~~KDA~~~ matters. Are you just trolling, or do you legit think anything you do in highsec matters, at all, to anyone except yourselves?

I guess it's a case of, where the only impact you have is on a killboard you need to convince youself it matters. It's a little sad you've swallowed lies you've told yourself so easily. I guess it's convenient though, because you don't need to try to do anything else, so convinced are you by your own misplaced sense of your role.

It's about fun. Pretty simple stuff really! Eve is a cool game!

I'm sure the 21bil we killed on your SpaceMonkey's Alliance in a week is already replaced by more goodies.

I'm not able to see the stats as I'm not in game, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of that 21b is in peoples personal gear where they were too dumb to avoid high sec. If someone wants to undock from Jita with 10,000 plex in their cargo bay and get exploded, that has absolutely no effect on the alliance. The bit you seems to keep ignoring is that we are NULL SEC alliances. I capitalised the key part for you there. That's the reason your little Jita station games means diddly in the grand scheme of things. Anyone with half an ounce brains knows to avoid high sec on their mains, so for all those people you kill: thank you. You are teaching them why they should not be undocking in the Jita lag into war targets.

And just in case the above has not made it clear enough, I'll summarise. Nobody is saying your raw kill numbers are not relatively high. What we are saying is that the idea that with Gevlon paying the bills it suddenly makes high sec matter to null sec groups is laughable. What you do in the new alliance is exactly the same as what you do in Marmite, and for that matter, the exact same thing as every other high sec war corp. The only difference now is that Gevlon will be taking credit for enabling your kills, while other high sec war corps are able to function without support.

...The bit you seems to keep ignoring is that we are NULL SEC alliances...

I'm not ignoring anything, dear Lucas. I'm wondering what all these elite nullsec lords are doing in HISEC (capitalised for you there) flying badly fitted ratting/'pvp'/industry ships when NULLSEC is the place to be for them.

So, please, go on and educate the newer/inexperienced players!

Nice mantra, doesn't add up for JF/marauder/t3 pilots but seeing the source I'll take it at face value.
We'll continue to do that on top of blasting 99% of your playerbase back to where they belong

We'll continue to do that on top of blasting 99% of your playerbase back to where they belong

I'm not ignoring anything, dear Lucas. I'm wondering what all these elite nullsec lords are doing in HISEC (capitalised for you there) flying badly fitted ratting/'pvp'/industry ships when NULLSEC is the place to be for them.

thus for me this proves 99% of the playerbase in null doesn't know what they are doing while said playerbase is the most vocal when it comes to boasting about how great they are.

Furthermore, you do what all your peers do when posting, you ignore the facts, you don't even bother to look at the numbers and repeat the same stupid one-liners ad nauseum. At least try and be civil by checking before posting, please?

The new alliance is very young and shows great potential to anyone that wants to see it.
They also couldn't be further away from Marmites, they don't do what we do but again, you don't want to see that because it doesn't fit your bias-bubble.