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Meilandra Vanderganken
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:08:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs. You my friend need to look into things like this befor ranting. Haulers, well if they can dodge Marmite, they can probably dodge you (hint: most alliances use NPC corp haulers). And the POCO money print? Are you having a laugh? Have you actually looked into how much POCOs make? Other than a handful around the tradehubs, most make between 4m/ month (I kid you not) and 100m/month. The entire collection of POCOs in highsec is worth maybe a couple of renters at most. I'm sure this project won't be the downfall of GS but I hardly think this is the intent. The intent seems to be to give high sec PVP'ers a chance to shoot at Goons in high sec while not having to put up with war dec fees as they are provided by someone else.
To non-aligned rag taggers, that might actually sound like fun. Hell, it should sound like fun for Goons too, just another small piece of content for everyone involved.
And as demonstrated, when you attack poco's, goons show up, providing targets and gud fights for all.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2384
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:13:00 -
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Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs. You my friend need to look into things like this befor ranting. Haulers, well if they can dodge Marmite, they can probably dodge you (hint: most alliances use NPC corp haulers). And the POCO money print? Are you having a laugh? Have you actually looked into how much POCOs make? Other than a handful around the tradehubs, most make between 4m/ month (I kid you not) and 100m/month. The entire collection of POCOs in highsec is worth maybe a couple of renters at most. I'm sure this project won't be the downfall of GS but I hardly think this is the intent. The intent seems to be to give high sec PVP'ers a chance to shoot at Goons in high sec while not having to put up with war dec fees as they are provided by someone else. To non-aligned rag taggers, that might actually sound like fun. Hell, it should sound like fun for Goons too, just another small piece of content for everyone involved. And as demonstrated, when you attack poco's, goons show up, providing targets and gud fights for all. I don't think there really is any intent, and that's why his reasoning changes every 2 seconds. First it was to get high sec people to be bale to pvp, then it was distraction from the war, then to mask Marmite, and now to slice their underbelly by cutting off highsec operations. It's all nonsense.
Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it. He's built up a few hundred bil, and it's rapidly becoming clear that means absolutely nothing in this game, so he's trying to claw onto whatever meaning he can. He wants everyone to suddenly care that he exists, but he's not willing to put in the effort or the skill to do so. He's trying to buy glory. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:17:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:
Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it. He's built up a few hundred bil, and it's rapidly becoming clear that means absolutely nothing in this game, so he's trying to claw onto whatever meaning he can. He wants everyone to suddenly care that he exists, but he's not willing to put in the effort or the skill to do so. He's trying to buy glory.
Everyone who posted in this thread cared that I exist.
Op success! |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
262
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:21:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:
...... well lead, organized Goon fleets.......
I lol'd Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |

Bagehi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
228
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:24:00 -
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If a null sec alliance is doing industry related things in high sec, they do it on alts. If they aren't, they're either being really lazy or they want someone to war dec and attack them. I'm sure members of Goonswarm would be absolutely gleeful if you could pull together a ragtag group of high sec people, stick them in a fleet, and try to grind POCOs with them. |

Meilandra Vanderganken
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:25:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:
Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it. He's built up a few hundred bil, and it's rapidly becoming clear that means absolutely nothing in this game, so he's trying to claw onto whatever meaning he can. He wants everyone to suddenly care that he exists, but he's not willing to put in the effort or the skill to do so. He's trying to buy glory.
Even if that were true, who cares?
If he manages to get this going and bring more pewpew to hi-sec, that's a win in my book. |

Powers Sa
828
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:36:00 -
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Bagehi wrote:If a null sec alliance is doing industry related things in high sec, they do it on alts. If they aren't, they're either being really lazy or they want someone to war dec and attack them. I'm sure members of Goonswarm would be absolutely gleeful if you could pull together a ragtag group of high sec people, stick them in a fleet, and try to grind POCOs with them. Yeah I'm itching to hand out the hangar full of loaner t2 logi, tech 3 cruisers, and battleships I have in high sec to shitstomp anyone coming at the shared RvBee Customs Authority Poco Crown. lol |

Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:49:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote: Yeah I'm itching to hand out the hangar full of loaner t2 logi, tech 3 cruisers, and battleships I have in high sec to shitstomp anyone coming at the shared RvBee Customs Authority Poco Crown.
You have a hangar full of T2 logi, T3 cruisers and battleships while the little bees are grinding structures in bombless bombers?!
I'm shocked over the obvious neglect of the well-beeing of the grunt bees. |

Samahiel Sotken
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
134
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:56:00 -
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Meilandra Vanderganken wrote: If he manages to get this going and bring more pewpew to hi-sec, that's a win in my book.
The flaw in his reasoning here is thinking there are people in hi-sec desperate for fights who aren't getting them. Fights are easy to come by, and anyone capable and willing already has access to them readily. Most people are in hi-sec to avoid fights either because they're an alt of a PVP oriented account, or because they're incapable. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2454
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:56:00 -
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Can you write your inevitable wall of text blaming everyone else for the failure of this now, so I don't have to check back later for the comedy? "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5883
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:04:00 -
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I see gevlon is so starved for relevance he has fallen back on the old standby of "the goons insulting me means they are scared, not that I've done something so stupid that everyone is passing around the link and laughing".
"I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
288
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:11:00 -
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Mister Gevlon,
The more people coming here trying to nitpick on the message/messenger the more I believe this could actually work.
Some advice if you allow me to give it;
I'd stop posting about your plan, cloak yourself in mystery and try to connect to a couple of PVP guys willing to invest time in the project, gather intel on your target and their alts, maybe even talk with groups like CODE and others.
Once you have something concrete, pick a date, make noise about that date and start your project with a big bang.
For instance, there are many mercs in hisec. If you could combine all these merc groups for a prolonged attack on goon pocos you could hurt their morale (make sure to invite groups like PIRAT/Dark Homeworld, they - Like Marmites - have some experience welping goons http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20652088)
If you could organise a month of mercs bashing goons left and right, your new alliance could profit from that to get a nice foothold. Take over all their pocos and wait for the goonies to wardec you to take it all back. If they do, open the war for allies and watch them squirm :)
Just some thoughts.
D.

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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
719
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:19:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:I see gevlon is so starved for relevance he has fallen back on the old standby of "the goons insulting me means they are scared, not that I've done something so stupid that everyone is passing around the link and laughing".
Didn't Harry Forever used to do the same thing? Fluffy Bunny Pic! |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2387
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:28:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Powers Sa wrote: Yeah I'm itching to hand out the hangar full of loaner t2 logi, tech 3 cruisers, and battleships I have in high sec to shitstomp anyone coming at the shared RvBee Customs Authority Poco Crown.
You have a hangar full of T2 logi, T3 cruisers and battleships while the little bees are grinding structures in bombless bombers?! I'm shocked over the obvious neglect of the well-beeing of the grunt bees. This is a bit unclear for people who don;t read the nonsense on your blog. Just for anyone that doesn't know, Gevlon is still under the impression that if you don't field the shiniest ships it means you are poor and/or incompetent. He's not yet learned that tactics often involve using different ships, sometimes cheaper ones. In this case field bombers who could covert cyno into any system and torp structures to death in short time. Gevlon thinks what we should have done is ignore all the awaiting super fleets and simply deployed a couple of thousand dreads, and all would have been stellar.
I honestly thought the fact that they did in fact win was going to be enough for him to wise up a little, but apparently not.
So to summarise, I think we are now clear on why Gevlon is not in null. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2781
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:34:00 -
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There's probably a lesson to take away from the fact that even the people Gevlon is trying to reach out to help him (or whatever) are offering helpful but patronizing advice at best and scorn & ridicule at worst.
I'm sure he'll take the wrong lesson away, though. 
Danalee wrote:Dark Homeworld
Ask Dark Homeworld what happened to their prized pocos sometime.  Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
288
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:44:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Danalee wrote:Dark Homeworld
Ask Dark Homeworld what happened to their prized perimeter pocos sometime. 
Haha, that's what you take from that post? To answer; The more reasons to invite them to stick it to the man(/goon). I'm sure you guys didn't want those ships anyways and stuff.
D.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2387
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:52:00 -
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Uh oh, some ships died. Dork Homeworld wins eve. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Danalee
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
288
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:55:00 -
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Context is important, for that fight the goonies where all hi and mighty boasting about how they would pummel DH into non existance etc... the Elite nullsec dudes were gonna come to hisec and show how it was done.
An entire RVB fleet was chased to their home system and refused to undock while their goon brethren were being pummeled.
So yea, Dark Homeworld / Hisec won EVE that day and I'm sure we all want a rematch. Thanks for noticing.
D.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2387
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:59:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Context is important, for that fight the goonies where all hi and mighty boasting about how they would pummel DH into non existance etc... the Elite nullsec dudes were gonna come to hisec and show how it was done. An entire RVB fleet was chased to their home system and refused to undock while their goon brethren were being pummeled. So yea, Dark Homeworld / Hisec won EVE that day and I'm sure we all want a rematch. Thanks for noticing. D.  If that's how far down you highsec guys need to bring the bar to feel victorious then by all means go ahead. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:04:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: Gevlon thinks what we should have done is ignore all the awaiting super fleets and simply deployed a couple of thousand dreads, and all would have been stellar.
No. It's what The Mittani thinks who tells everyone in CFC to get into Naglfars. But "telling" is all he can do, because all the CFC can afford is replacing one bombless bomber a month and not a dread.
mynnna wrote:I'm sure he'll take the wrong lesson away, though.  I attacked 2 POCOs and both times a Goon director shown up. I make a "silly" forum post and directors come to talk me out of it. I doubt a line Goon (not to mention a pet) has the privilege of being addressed by the mighty cupola of GSF. I think this is the proper lesson.
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Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
248
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:06:00 -
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Hi Gevlon,
You should invest some of your hard won industry isk into another 0.0 alliance we are shooting for the privilege of them hearing your wisdom. It worked so well last time.
Mad Props o7o7o7o7o7 ^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7 |

The Strawman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:08:00 -
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Victor Dathar wrote:Hi Gevlon,
You should invest some of your hard won industry isk into another 0.0 alliance we are shooting for the privilege of them hearing your wisdom. It worked so well last time.
Mad Props o7o7o7o7o7
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Colonel Rhombus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:16:00 -
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You've convinced me. How do I sign up?
Warm Regards,
Colonel Thaddeus J. Rhombus IIi |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2387
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:21:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: Gevlon thinks what we should have done is ignore all the awaiting super fleets and simply deployed a couple of thousand dreads, and all would have been stellar.
No. It's what The Mittani thinks who tells everyone in CFC to get into Naglfars. But "telling" is all he can do, because all the CFC can afford is replacing one bombless bomber a month and not a dread. L O L.
Ladies and genglemen, I present to you Gevlon Goblin, the single dumbest member of the community.
Seriously guy, you should really learn how EVE works. You use the ships the are most effective at the time. None of your guesswork math even remotely resembles reality. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
693
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:58:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote: ~bombless bomber~
You may understand markets enough to make billions. But I guess you really don't understand how the spaceships work. |

zyalino
NORDIC COMPANY Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:19:00 -
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just when i start thinking that goons actually aren't such douches ... ...you guys still surprise me from time to time.
let him do his highsec poco project, it's a win win for everybody, and he'll even pay for it.
edit: you remember that ccp gave us hs.pocos to generate more conflict?!
@ lucas, sry mate, -1 whatever |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5887
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:20:00 -
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gevlon I do not at all want to talk you out of this that would end the fountain of comedy produced by your hilarious inability to do qnyhing of note at all and your hilarious attempts to blame everyone but you
by the way what corp or alliance with a brand would want to sully it by associating with you
even test did that only as a joke "I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2387
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:21:00 -
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zyalino wrote:just when i start thinking that goons actually aren't such douches ... ...you guys still surprise me from time to time.
let him do his highsec poco project, it's a win win for everybody, and he'll even pay for it.
@ lucas, sry mate, -1 -1 for what? Stating that pocos don;t make much money, that siege bomber work or that Gevlon is a dumbass? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

zyalino
NORDIC COMPANY Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:23:00 -
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-2 for asking silly questions. whatever |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2387
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:25:00 -
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zyalino wrote:-2 for asking silly questions. You can minus as much as you want. You still haven't exactly explained what it is you disagree with, and whatever way it is doesn't really matter, the end result is the same. Silly me though I thought maybe you'd be interested in sharing your thoughts on the matter. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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