Marmite has been deccing the goons for a while now and had Billions upon Billions of isk damage.

The thing is however. It has not really done anything to the Bees and they barely felt it's affects. Yes it looks impressive from Marmites point of view that they are doing billions of isk damage. But they are not doing damage where it matters... Goons Space.

So I ask you, what is the point of Wardeccing the goons if it does not affect them. I know you tried and lost some ships for your trouble. If you want them to feel it take their space, make them fight to keep it ,then they will feel it.

Normally I'd post on my main but because you are a worthless poster I am going to post on a worthless forum alt.

I know you are potentially posterier-pestered after being dunked by a goon while you were attempting to RP as a Marmite Collective pilot and shoot a structure in Hisec. It is also pretty hilarious that not only could you not shoot a structure but then proceeded to make the worlds longest blog post about how Goons ruin everything even though you made a corp called "Grr Goons". For the record, I believe the phrase "grr goons" is an ironic quip at publords who endlessly rant about how Goons hate everyone and their sole reason for their existance is to ruin your day.

Regardless of your interesting choice of corp name, I think that it is cute that you are so flustered at being beaten by goons in Peeveepee that you are attempting some kind of fail highsec banner call. Sure, you'd get some sick elite mails whilst camping the Jita 4-4 undock but that's all it's going to accomplish. Marmite Collective tried bashing a POCO twice, they didn't show up for the timer the first time and let a fleet of Basilisks and Scythes hold the field while some fail griefer smacked in local, and the second time they didn't even reinforce it.

By the way your blog is pretty terrible, so I suppose it matches your PvP skills.

I'd like to interject that as opposed to what the goonies are saying here on the forums, our efforts have had quite some impact on them.
Don't mistake their bravado to be based on fact rather than fiction. Heck, even this fine fellow above me (an alt made with the sole purpose of doing damage control on the forums (!)) struggles to hide his tears.

To the OP: I suggest you contact Tora Bushido, I'm sure we can make an arangement beneficial to both your and our cause while being bad for goonies everywhere.

f4f

D.

Wow. such butthurtedness.
U a Holeysheet1 alt?

that would involve Bushido making Marmite an 'open alliance' which just is not happening.

One and a half year ago Goonswarm wardecced Jade Constantine. Yes, a player. He dared to talk about the Goons without complete obedience and servitude, so The Mittani declared that any corp that dares to take him will be forever wardecced by Goonswarm. Jade's current alliance had 100 members. GSF had 9000.

Instead of running away from this prime case of bully, Jade requested allies. The new wardec system allowed infinite number of allies to join a wardecced corp. And this is more or less what happened. Hundreds rallied for the opportunity to pop Goons, as they are famous for their incompetence and arrogance. The war went from bully into rout in days. The forums filled with Goon tears demanding a fix. Since the purpose was to create mercenary marketplace, the ability to call infinite allies were removed.

Since then, Goonswarm is safe in highsec. Declaring war on them has 500M/week cost, making it impossible to upkeep for a small sized highsec PvP group. This is about to change.

I don't like Goons. As you can see, I'm in the Science and Trade Institute, despite I'm in the game for almost two years. I'm trading or doing PI. That makes me a carebear pubbie shitlord who should be slaughtered like some animal and driven away from the game according to Goons. It also means I have ISK. I made more than 500B in my EVE career, spent about 150B on ill-conceived nullsec plans and PLEX-ing accounts. The rest is in cash and assets. Time to make good use of it.

I'm looking for a capable highsec PvP corp/alliance to take up the banner against Goonswarm. I want this group to form an open alliance, one that accepts any corp that has highsec PvP killboard history and not a Goon ally. Kick only inactives and awoxers, not corps you had quarrel over some Falcon. Note: alliance mates can't shoot each other in highsec like corpmates. This ragtag alliance will be at war with Goonswarm, forever.

All costs + paying for your effort is on me. If you take on this task and form this alliance, I pay you 1B every week as long as you keep up the war and don't abuse your executor power to exclude anyone from shooting Goons. If the alliance goes well and enough Goons die, we can expand our scope and wardec notable Goon pets (FA, RAZOR, Gents...).

What makes me think there are Goons to shoot in highsec? Because I started an altcorp and decced Goons. Went on shooting a Goon POCO (Lonetrek is littered with them) and in short order Goons arrived to defend it. I lost the fight of course as I have no clue about PvP. But you know how to fight. Also, I counted 35 Goons undocking Jita yesterday in an hour. Since no one can afford to wardec them, they grown fat and lazy. I guess they even have missioners in Golems (kill from the original Jade Constantine war). Oh, did I forget the juicy freighters? They have a lot.

Read the link above about the Jade Constantine war. Take a swim in their tears! Want this back? Want to dunk on the largest and "most powerful" alliance of EVE? Then this is your time! Comment here if you want to be the executor of this alliance (I can provide an Empire Control 5 alt if needed). Earn your well-deserved ISK while spearheading the massacre of bees!

PS: just a small advice, if you are in war with the Goons, name your ships "Slowcat"! That alone makes them crying rivers.

One and a half year ago Goonswarm wardecced Jade Constantine. Yes, a player. He dared to talk about the Goons without complete obedience and servitude, so The Mittani declared that any corp that dares to take him will be forever wardecced by Goonswarm. Jade's current alliance had 100 members. GSF had 9000.

Instead of running away from this prime case of bully, Jade requested allies. The new wardec system allowed infinite number of allies to join a wardecced corp. And this is more or less what happened. Hundreds rallied for the opportunity to pop Goons, as they are famous for their incompetence and arrogance. The war went from bully into rout in days. The forums filled with Goon tears demanding a fix. Since the purpose was to create mercenary marketplace, the ability to call infinite allies were removed.

They're already fighting basically everyone in nullsec that isn't them and you won't raise even a percent of that effort.

I RF-ed a POCO (in Iyen-Oursta, Saturday 0:35) and no less man than Mynnna threatened of forming a 60man fleet to defend it.

If you feel "threatened" too, talk to your CEO about forming/joining. Let the Goons feel the same love they spread!

Marmite has been deccing the goons for a while now and had Billions upon Billions of isk damage.

The thing is however. It has not really done anything to the Bees and they barely felt it's affects. Yes it looks impressive from Marmites point of view that they are doing billions of isk damage. But they are not doing damage where it matters... Goons Space.

So I ask you, what is the point of Wardeccing the goons if it does not affect them. I know you tried and lost some ships for your trouble. If you want them to feel it take their space, make them fight to keep it ,then they will feel it.

Dear OP,
Rather than calling out to what amounts to be risk adverse gankers to do your dirty work why don't you try putting your money where your mouth is and forming a player run corp, join N3, or other entity that fight Goons for sov hurting them where it counts?

You're trying to hire people who keep their backs safe by living, war dec'ing, and staying in high sec ganking freighters, etc... If the loss of the station egg, the loss of supers and caps in Asakai when DBRB derped his Titan didn't phase Goons, your 500B and forum fakery aren't going to. Just take your ass to null sec and go at them on their playground or just go back to your banana republic propaganda fueled tardini articles and forget about it.

Cheers

Make an alliance yourself.
Fund the wardec from your alliance onto the CFC entities.
You insta accept the corps that apply.
Done.
Why are you making a forum post about this?

You could do it on an alt....

Dear OP,
Rather than calling out to what amounts to be risk adverse gankers to do your dirty work why don't you try putting your money where your mouth is and forming a player run corp, join N3, or other entity that fight Goons for sov hurting them where it counts?

You're trying to hire people who keep their backs safe by living, war dec'ing, and staying in high sec ganking freighters, etc... If the loss of the station egg, the loss of supers and caps in Asakai when DBRB derped his Titan didn't phase Goons, your 500B and forum fakery aren't going to. Just take your ass to null sec and go at them on their playground or just go back to your banana republic propaganda fueled tardini articles and forget about it.

Cheers

But why would anyone join an alliance ran by an alt of a trader. What I'm paying the extra for is a brand. A name that attract highsec PvP-ers and wannabees.



If it's irrelevant, why are you posting? Why do you try to push me into N3 instead?
Let me explain why Goons are posting one after the other "we don't care": because N3 is hitting the front armor of the Goons. N3 fleet is clashing with well lead, organized Goon fleets.

I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs. The odd Goon who went to shop. Miniluv who farm freighters. The idiot who is missioning in a Golem to afford that Naglfar that Mittani commanded him to have.

I want a huge alliance, doesn't matter if 90% is a useless punk who poses no threat to any Goon. Why? Because I want Goons see war targets everywhere in local in highsec. So they either don't shop, don't haul, don't mission, don't travel, don't gank, or ignore them. But some of the war targets are Marmite and such. Ignore them and bye-bye freighter. It's like placing AFK-cloakers: most of them are AFK, but some of them are covops cynoing a hostile gang.

I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs.

Let me explain why Goons are posting one after the other "we don't care"

^^ This^^

To expand briefly.

Dear OP,
Rather than calling out to what amounts to be risk adverse gankers to do your dirty work why don't you try putting your money where your mouth is and forming a player run corp, join N3, or other entity that fight Goons for sov hurting them where it counts?

You're trying to hire people who keep their backs safe by living, war dec'ing, and staying in high sec ganking freighters, etc... If the loss of the station egg, the loss of supers and caps in Asakai when DBRB derped his Titan didn't phase Goons, your 500B and forum fakery aren't going to. Just take your ass to null sec and go at them on their playground or just go back to your banana republic propaganda fueled tardini articles and forget about it.

Cheers

I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs. The odd Goon who went to shop. Miniluv who farm freighters. The idiot who is missioning in a Golem to afford that Naglfar that Mittani commanded him to have.

But why would anyone join an alliance ran by an alt of a trader. What I'm paying the extra for is a brand. A name that attract highsec PvP-ers and wannabees.

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You my friend need to look into things like this befor ranting. Haulers, well if they can dodge Marmite, they can probably dodge you (hint: most alliances use NPC corp haulers).

And the POCO money print? Are you having a laugh? Have you actually looked into how much POCOs make? Other than a handful around the tradehubs, most make between 4m/ month (I kid you not) and 100m/month. The entire collection of POCOs in highsec is worth maybe a couple of renters at most.

I'm sure this project won't be the downfall of GS but I hardly think this is the intent. The intent seems to be to give high sec PVP'ers a chance to shoot at Goons in high sec while not having to put up with war dec fees as they are provided by someone else.

To non-aligned rag taggers, that might actually sound like fun. Hell, it should sound like fun for Goons too, just another small piece of content for everyone involved.

And as demonstrated, when you attack poco's, goons show up, providing targets and gud fights for all.

Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it. He's built up a few hundred bil, and it's rapidly becoming clear that means absolutely nothing in this game, so he's trying to claw onto whatever meaning he can. He wants everyone to suddenly care that he exists, but he's not willing to put in the effort or the skill to do so. He's trying to buy glory.

...... well lead, organized Goon fleets.......

Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it. He's built up a few hundred bil, and it's rapidly becoming clear that means absolutely nothing in this game, so he's trying to claw onto whatever meaning he can. He wants everyone to suddenly care that he exists, but he's not willing to put in the effort or the skill to do so. He's trying to buy glory.

If a null sec alliance is doing industry related things in high sec, they do it on alts. If they aren't, they're either being really lazy or they want someone to war dec and attack them. I'm sure members of Goonswarm would be absolutely gleeful if you could pull together a ragtag group of high sec people, stick them in a fleet, and try to grind POCOs with them.

Yeah I'm itching to hand out the hangar full of loaner t2 logi, tech 3 cruisers, and battleships I have in high sec to shitstomp anyone coming at the shared RvBee Customs Authority Poco Crown.

If he manages to get this going and bring more pewpew to hi-sec, that's a win in my book.

I see gevlon is so starved for relevance he has fallen back on the old standby of "the goons insulting me means they are scared, not that I've done something so stupid that everyone is passing around the link and laughing".

You have a hangar full of T2 logi, T3 cruisers and battleships while the little bees are grinding structures in bombless bombers?!

I'm shocked over the obvious neglect of the well-beeing of the grunt bees.

Dark Homeworld

Ask Dark Homeworld what happened to their prized perimeter pocos sometime.

Haha, that's what you take from that post?
To answer; The more reasons to invite them to stick it to the man(/goon). I'm sure you guys didn't want those ships anyways and stuff.

D.

Context is important, for that fight the goonies where all hi and mighty boasting about how they would pummel DH into non existance etc... the Elite nullsec dudes were gonna come to hisec and show how it was done.

An entire RVB fleet was chased to their home system and refused to undock while their goon brethren were being pummeled.

So yea, Dark Homeworld / Hisec won EVE that day and I'm sure we all want a rematch. Thanks for noticing.

D.

Gevlon thinks what we should have done is ignore all the awaiting super fleets and simply deployed a couple of thousand dreads, and all would have been stellar.

I'm sure he'll take the wrong lesson away, though.

Hi Gevlon,

You should invest some of your hard won industry isk into another 0.0 alliance we are shooting for the privilege of them hearing your wisdom. It worked so well last time.

Mad Props o7o7o7o7o7

No. It's what The Mittani thinks who tells everyone in CFC to get into Naglfars. But "telling" is all he can do, because all the CFC can afford is replacing one bombless bomber a month and not a dread.

~bombless bomber~

just when i start thinking that goons actually aren't such douches ...
...you guys still surprise me from time to time.

let him do his highsec poco project, it's a win win for everybody, and he'll even pay for it.


@ lucas, sry mate, -1

-2 for asking silly questions.

L O L.

Ladies and genglemen, I present to you Gevlon Goblin, the single dumbest member of the community.

Seriously guy, you should really learn how EVE works. You use the ships the are most effective at the time. None of your guesswork math even remotely resembles reality.

just when i start thinking that goons actually aren't such douches ...
...you guys still surprise me from time to time.

let him do his highsec poco project, it's a win win for everybody, and he'll even pay for it.

edit: you remember that ccp gave us hs.pocos to generate more conflict?!


@ lucas, sry mate, -1

I don't think anyone's trying to talk him out of it. More like egg him on, really.

Kinda like how CFC won't use Dreads or Supers to counter the Archon.........or is throwing hundreds of dictors at them "the most effective ship at this time".........while you cry to CCP to nerf it...

Anywhoo.......carry on, I like where this is headed..

You may understand markets enough to make billions. But I guess you really don't understand how the spaceships work.

gevlon fyi I am richer than you and generally can't be bothered to make isk except around patch time while you furiously scrabble in the dirt for pennies nonstop

and I'm relatively poor for a goonswarm finance director

Then why don't you share your wealth with the poor little bees who suffer shooting structures in bombless bombers? GSF supposed to be space socialism. Save them, give them dreads, so they can shoot structures like decent people do. They are your bros, remember! Don't be a Randian sorry loser like myself counting ISK. Money is nothing next to friendship. Sharing is caring!

Don't be a Randian sorry loser like myself counting ISK. Money is nothing next to friendship. Sharing is caring!

One and a half year ago Goonswarm wardecced Jade Constantine. Yes, a player. He dared to talk about the Goons without complete obedience and servitude, so The Mittani declared that any corp that dares to take him will be forever wardecced by Goonswarm. Jade's current alliance had 100 members. GSF had 9000.

Instead of running away from this prime case of bully, Jade requested allies. The new wardec system allowed infinite number of allies to join a wardecced corp. And this is more or less what happened. Hundreds rallied for the opportunity to pop Goons, as they are famous for their incompetence and arrogance. The war went from bully into rout in days. The forums filled with Goon tears demanding a fix. Since the purpose was to create mercenary marketplace, the ability to call infinite allies were removed.

Since then, Goonswarm is safe in highsec. Declaring war on them has 500M/week cost, making it impossible to upkeep for a small sized highsec PvP group. This is about to change.

I don't like Goons. As you can see, I'm in the Science and Trade Institute, despite I'm in the game for almost two years. I'm trading or doing PI. That makes me a carebear pubbie shitlord who should be slaughtered like some animal and driven away from the game according to Goons. It also means I have ISK. I made more than 500B in my EVE career, spent about 150B on ill-conceived nullsec plans and PLEX-ing accounts. The rest is in cash and assets. Time to make good use of it.

I'm looking for a capable highsec PvP corp/alliance to take up the banner against Goonswarm. I want this group to form an open alliance, one that accepts any corp that has highsec PvP killboard history and not a Goon ally. Kick only inactives and awoxers, not corps you had quarrel over some Falcon. Note: alliance mates can't shoot each other in highsec like corpmates. This ragtag alliance will be at war with Goonswarm, forever.

All costs + paying for your effort is on me. If you take on this task and form this alliance, I pay you 1B every week as long as you keep up the war and don't abuse your executor power to exclude anyone from shooting Goons. If the alliance goes well and enough Goons die, we can expand our scope and wardec notable Goon pets (FA, RAZOR, Gents...).

What makes me think there are Goons to shoot in highsec? Because I started an altcorp and decced Goons. Went on shooting a Goon POCO (Lonetrek is littered with them) and in short order Goons arrived to defend it. I lost the fight of course as I have no clue about PvP. But you know how to fight. Also, I counted 35 Goons undocking Jita yesterday in an hour. Since no one can afford to wardec them, they grown fat and lazy. I guess they even have missioners in Golems (kill from the original Jade Constantine war). Oh, did I forget the juicy freighters? They have a lot.

Read the link above about the Jade Constantine war. Take a swim in their tears! Want this back? Want to dunk on the largest and "most powerful" alliance of EVE? Then this is your time! Comment here if you want to be the executor of this alliance (I can provide an Empire Control 5 alt if needed). Earn your well-deserved ISK while spearheading the massacre of bees!

PS: just a small advice, if you are in war with the Goons, name your ships "Slowcat"! That alone makes them crying rivers.

poor little bees

Mister Gevlon,

The more people coming here trying to nitpick on the message/messenger the more I believe this could actually work.

Some advice if you allow me to give it;

I'd stop posting about your plan, cloak yourself in mystery and try to connect to a couple of PVP guys willing to invest time in the project, gather intel on your target and their alts, maybe even talk with groups like CODE and others.

Once you have something concrete, pick a date, make noise about that date and start your project with a big bang.

For instance, there are many mercs in hisec. If you could combine all these merc groups for a prolonged attack on goon pocos you could hurt their morale (make sure to invite groups like PIRAT/Dark Homeworld, they - Like Marmites - have some experience welping goons http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20652088)

If you could organise a month of mercs bashing goons left and right, your new alliance could profit from that to get a nice foothold. Take over all their pocos and wait for the goonies to wardec you to take it all back. If they do, open the war for allies and watch them squirm :)

Just some thoughts.

D.

For instance, there are many mercs in hisec. If you could combine all these merc groups for a prolonged attack on goon pocos you could hurt their morale (make sure to invite groups like PIRAT/Dark Homeworld, they - Like Marmites - have some experience welping goons http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20652088)

Since then, Goonswarm is safe in highsec. Declaring war on them has 500M/week cost, making it impossible to upkeep for a small sized highsec PvP group. This is about to change.

Of course it won't work. Not in the current form anyway. But in what way is an open dec on Goonswarm a bad thing? Unless you all think there shouldn't be any conflict in highsec.

Oh, and look! We're nearly up to page 5 of "I don't care SO MUCH that I'm going to post about it!"

Oh, and look! We're nearly up to page 5 of "I don't care SO MUCH that I'm going to post about it!"

It's been said before, but are you actually asking that a group from a forum community built on posting to stop posting?

More like Dunked Homeworld, am i right?

I'd say they did p. good against a combined force that was almost 3x their size.

You are taking it all so seriously! It's hilarious! Silence would have conveyed disdain much more effectively, that's all.

One and a half year ago Goonswarm wardecced Jade Constantine. Yes, a player. He dared to talk about the Goons without complete obedience and servitude, so The Mittani declared that any corp that dares to take him will be forever wardecced by Goonswarm. Jade's current alliance had 100 members. GSF had 9000.

Instead of running away from this prime case of bully, Jade requested allies. The new wardec system allowed infinite number of allies to join a wardecced corp. And this is more or less what happened. Hundreds rallied for the opportunity to pop Goons, as they are famous for their incompetence and arrogance. The war went from bully into rout in days. The forums filled with Goon tears demanding a fix. Since the purpose was to create mercenary marketplace, the ability to call infinite allies were removed.

Since then, Goonswarm is safe in highsec. Declaring war on them has 500M/week cost, making it impossible to upkeep for a small sized highsec PvP group. This is about to change.

I don't like Goons. As you can see, I'm in the Science and Trade Institute, despite I'm in the game for almost two years. I'm trading or doing PI. That makes me a carebear pubbie shitlord who should be slaughtered like some animal and driven away from the game according to Goons. It also means I have ISK. I made more than 500B in my EVE career, spent about 150B on ill-conceived nullsec plans and PLEX-ing accounts. The rest is in cash and assets. Time to make good use of it.

I'm looking for a capable highsec PvP corp/alliance to take up the banner against Goonswarm. I want this group to form an open alliance, one that accepts any corp that has highsec PvP killboard history and not a Goon ally. Kick only inactives and awoxers, not corps you had quarrel over some Falcon. Note: alliance mates can't shoot each other in highsec like corpmates. This ragtag alliance will be at war with Goonswarm, forever.

All costs + paying for your effort is on me. If you take on this task and form this alliance, I pay you 1B every week as long as you keep up the war and don't abuse your executor power to exclude anyone from shooting Goons. If the alliance goes well and enough Goons die, we can expand our scope and wardec notable Goon pets (FA, RAZOR, Gents...).

What makes me think there are Goons to shoot in highsec? Because I started an altcorp and decced Goons. Went on shooting a Goon POCO (Lonetrek is littered with them) and in short order Goons arrived to defend it. I lost the fight of course as I have no clue about PvP. But you know how to fight. Also, I counted 35 Goons undocking Jita yesterday in an hour. Since no one can afford to wardec them, they grown fat and lazy. I guess they even have missioners in Golems (*snip* Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. Yes, even by proxy. ISD Ezwal). Oh, did I forget the juicy freighters? They have a lot.

Read the link above about the Jade Constantine war. Take a swim in their tears! Want this back? Want to dunk on the largest and "most powerful" alliance of EVE? Then this is your time! Comment here if you want to be the executor of this alliance (I can provide an Empire Control 5 alt if needed). Earn your well-deserved ISK while spearheading the massacre of bees!

PS: just a small advice, if you are in war with the Goons, name your ships "Slowcat"! That alone makes them crying rivers.

I RF-ed a POCO (in Iyen-Oursta, Saturday 0:35) and no less man than Mynnna threatened of forming a 60man fleet to defend it.

If you feel "threatened" too, talk to your CEO about forming/joining. Let the Goons feel the same love they spread!

5 pages already, 90% of them are Goons+SMA pet want to talk me out of it. Including 2 directors + Mynnna himself.

Can anyone think of a better reason why it must be made?!

I really can't see you getting anyone competent to agree to accepting anyone that applies.

I really can't see you getting anyone competent to agree to accepting anyone that applies.

Who said they should accept anyone into themselves?

Why not make it a satellite alliance with official endorsement?
The alliance executor and the director of the default corp (that takes individual pilots) are alts from directors of the real alliance.
The satellite alliance gets decent leadership and FCs. The real alliance gets a pool for recruitment, meat shield (their losses aren't on your killboard) and decoy: Goon sees war target and has to click-click to figure out if it's a good PvP-er or just an angry carebear alt. Click-Click is a long time in terms of interceptors warp speed.

This isn't how any merc corp/alliance director thinks. There isn't really any part of that example that they would see as a benefit - their losses aren't on the 'real' killboard sure, but neither are any kills they get.

High sec mercs basically think on the basis of killboard-***** measuring. Unless you can work out some way to have the alliance open without affecting the length of their johnson, you're better off hiring someone on a near-permanent basis.

5 pages already, 90% of them are Goons+SMA pet want to talk me out of it. Including 2 directors + Mynnna himself.

Can anyone think of a better reason why it must be made?!

The Whale Hunters Association is willing to undertake this project pending isk

Why would an organisation that seemingly hunts extra-large mammals want to come aft...

Oh.

I attacked 2 POCOs and both times a Goon director shown up. I make a "silly" forum post and directors come to talk me out of it. I doubt a line Goon (not to mention a pet) has the privilege of being addressed by the mighty cupola of GSF. I think this is the proper lesson.

What are your demands?

2) Teach and not grief! I completely agree that highsec is littered with morons and slackers. Those who stuff several billions into a freighter, mine in a Hulk in 0.5 or haul PLEX in a T1 industrial must be clearly reminded of his error. However it must be done in the context of informing and elevating, not of insulting and humiliating. When I was doing this holy work I gave a guide to all players I could. When Goons did the Lord's work in Jita or the ice belts, they instead spouted hate and despair, leaving the dumb just as dumb as he was. Fighting ignorance is the responsibility of all enlightened people, I demand Goons to do their part!

that sounds like a request for altruism, from the mouth of a moron and slacker who is trying to get other people to do his work for him while having basic errors about the game

for more, please see galtse.cx

Galt is a fictional character. Rand was the real world person, who dedicated her life to write books to teach people. Her heritage is in a political movement, which - by definition - spreads ideas.

The Whale Hunters Association is willing to undertake this project pending isk

I am a potential high sec pvp'er that would happily join in the cause against the nasty goon menace, but I am not gonna join up with some elitist pvp corp because I am an extremely casual gamer and I tend to clash with elitists who want things done their way.

So unless you can sort that out, you are gonna have a lot less meatshield imo. In which case you might just be better off directly paying mercs to kill goons. Or maybe you should make the alliance yourself?

OP - you claim to have 500 billion ISK.

Contact NC, buy yourself an Archon pilot, buy them a decently fit Archon and low-grade slaves, and fight alongside NC in the war. Or hell, buy yourself a supercarrier pilot, HG slaves and a supercarrier.

You might turn the tide of a battle. If not, you'll make for a hilarious killmail.

this is actually good advice, why would you use high seccers when there are already coalitions at war out there, choose your side and help fund the war!

gevlon, how is it that you're operating on an npc alt and can't figure out why nobody is scared about you being able to attack people with a gsf ticker in highsec

Nothing that happens in highsec has any effect on people that live in nullsec.

Nothing that happens in highsec has any effect on people that live in nullsec.

How many JFs has you are alliance lost in hisec???

Your entire post is elitest. I mean really cupcake. You're on here talking about being a "potential" high sec pvp'er and "people" better do what you say or else. LOL @ U

Wow, sitting in local docked up, you've really shown us what's what Gevlon! Btw, why are you too cowardly to put your main in the wardec corp? Why would anyone else join if you won't even put your own guy or risk or even undock?

The POCO in Iyen-Oursta will leave reinforced in 5 hours, 37 minutes.

Will you dare to face the fleet of Grr Goonswarm little bees? Or you didn't want that highsec POCO anyway?

Mynnna promised 60 minions to rep it! See it this way: flying Ospreys is much more fun than flying bombless bombers!

I'm in. Watch out goons this noob is coming for you!

Wow, sitting in local docked up, you've really shown us what's what Gevlon! Btw, why are you too cowardly to put your main in the wardec corp? Why would anyone else join if you won't even put your own guy or risk or even undock?

Tremble Goons!
The battle report and rise of the Lemmings is here!

The Association is still waiting for Mr Goblin to get in contact

I've shot another POCO to 60% when yet again little bee arrived

Tremble Goons!

The Lemmings have been formed. I hope 25 of you enjoyed repping a POCO and trolling some AFK pilots while I was asleep. I will reinforce some more for your continued enjoyment.

The battle report and rise of the Lemmings is here!

More war news! I've shot another POCO to 60% when yet again little bee arrived. This will be an insanely fun environment for small gang PvP-ers. Unfortunately I landed outside of web range, he managed to run away, otherwise I'd kill it myself. Remember! There is no better way to get into PvP than dunking dumb Goons.

No see we are his puppets.

Also who said you could comment pet.

"Join me, I won't help in any way and you will probably have a bad time but I will blog about it which matters to me"

"GOD why is no one champing at the bit on this one I can't work it out"

To what end?

Hey Goons, the recuitment post is up, could you go there and tell everyone that it's not going to work, no point joining, nothing to see there?

Thank you!

You didn't watch carefully. I recognized that I was wrong in previous projects and that's why they failed. This is why I did not start this project, but looked for someone who is capable of running it. I accepted my limitations.

Tora Bushido and other Marmite directors run it, I just pay the bills. Of course you can hope they fail. But they have 250B dead Goons from 2013 to prove that they know how to handle such matters.

But they have 250B dead Goons from 2013 to prove that they know how to handle such matters.

I have no clue

If your goal is to pay people to do something they were doing anyway, then GOOD JOB BUDDY OP SUCCESS.

If your goal is to make a difference, then you're going to have to do a little more than waive the wardec fee for 4-4 campers.

Wow, we kill 3-4 times that in high sec each month.

Sounds like a plan to me.

Must be plenty of new to PvP players out there or alts out who'd like to dip in and out of a perma-wardec on those nasty Goons.

Really, that's 750-1000B kills in highsec each month. According to Zkillboard history https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1354830081/history/ Goons have about 2T kills all together. So you either have half of your kills in highsec, or your figures are a bit overestimated.

Wow, we kill 3-4 times that in high sec each month.

Wow, we kill 3-4 times that in high sec each month.

I'm sure this project won't be the downfall of GS but I hardly think this is the intent. The intent seems to be to give high sec PVP'ers a chance to shoot at Goons in high sec while not having to put up with war dec fees as they are provided by someone else.

To non-aligned rag taggers, that might actually sound like fun. Hell, it should sound like fun for Goons too, just another small piece of content for everyone involved.

And as demonstrated, when you attack poco's, goons show up, providing targets and gud fights for all.

For a 290 member alliance vs a 12,000 member one I'd said marmites are doing an epic job against you guys! If Goons are so tough why don't they beat marmites back?

because marmites camp jita 4-4 which is completely irrelevant to a null sec entity?

just, maybe?

I know you don't know the game very well, so I will help you out here.

Marmite are highsec PVPers, which means all they do is sit off the jita undock and shoot people who seemingly haven't got the memo. In our case, this is usually people getting unlucky with a warpout in their Ibis / shuttle / capsule (over 2/3 of all kills), or goons who don't even know what a wardec is, why it matters, or how to check who can shoot them. Be under no illusion: Marmite will keep us permadecced anyway, because their goal (shoot clueless people on an undock) won't ever stop being met by our members.

If your goal is to pay people to do something they were doing anyway, then GOOD JOB BUDDY OP SUCCESS.

If your goal is to make a difference, then you're going to have to do a little more than waive the wardec fee for 4-4 campers.

Marmite are highsec PVPers, which means all they do is sit off the jita undock and shoot people who seemingly haven't got the memo.

I'm looking for a capable highsec PvP corp/alliance to take up the banner against Goonswarm

PUBLIC CHANNEL : Lemmings PUB - Everyone is welcome!

ARE YOU ALL READY TO JOIN "DARWINS LEMMINGS" AND GET SOME GOONBEAR TEARS ?

* If so, apply TODAY !

* Never done pvp before ? No Problem...... this is your chance to train PVP with an easy target !

* This alliance will be at war with Goonswarm 24/7/365.

* Why ?? Well, just because we can.....

Enjoy my fellow Lemmings.....

Harry Forever has been quiet of late on the forums.

His....I struggle to use the word rhetoric, because that implies more than just splurging hyperbole on the forums...but, whatever, his posts are reminiscent of Gevlons latest ramblings.

Harry = Gevlon, c/d?

Really, that's 750-1000B kills in highsec each month. According to Zkillboard history https://zkillboard.com/alliance/1354830081/history/ Goons have about 2T kills all together. So you either have half of your kills in highsec, or your figures are a bit overestimated.

I have a monthly running total that says otherwise on a killboard that we specifically post to. Here's november for the miniluv KB: http://i.imgur.com/szVvcU1.png

Nice ganking results. However 95+% of them are freighters, industrials, POCOs, mining ships and such.

These results can't be extrapolated into a highsec war against fighting ships. It's like me saying "I will solo kill 125B worth of Goons a month, since I already reached that figure". I did. On random miners.

Talking about ganking, unless Miniluv has less than 8 members, I've outperformed you.

Nice ganking results. However 95+% of them are freighters, industrials, POCOs, mining ships and such.

These results can't be extrapolated into a highsec war against fighting ships

Nice ganking results. However 95+% of them are freighters, industrials, POCOs, mining ships and such.

These results can't be extrapolated into a highsec war against fighting ships. It's like me saying "I will solo kill 125B worth of Goons a month, since I already reached that figure". I did. On random miners.

It is my goal to get every one of my characters banned from this channel while attempting to recruit you all to Goonwaffe. Cheers.

CAPS and 1337 speak will surely join soon

You mean like your own signature?

Any kills yet?

Yehhh.... the first kill we got was a Goon in a mining ship....omfg..seriously ?

This might come as a surprise to you but GSF in general is very newbie friendly and doesn't require its members to participate in PVP - so it's not surprising at all that you can kill Goons in mining barges/industrials.

Well, you'll need to get your newbies to Deklein. Because highsec is about to become very unfriendly to newbees.

Sounds like a plan. Get them into Deklein then send a bomber fleet in to finish them off

how long before this whole this is a wash and Gevlon blames everything on the slackers and everyone else involved but himself

how long before this whole thing is a wash and Gevlon blames everything on the slackers and everyone else involved but himself

He's already distanced himself by stating that it is all on Marmite, he's just funding them. So in his eyes, he can't fail.

By that logic though, it also means he can't succeed, yet still every time Marmite scores a kill on the Jita undock he will celebrate it as a victory that he attributes to himself. Anything he can get to rub his epeen.

I think he is making content for eve which is only a good thing right?

and plus more players learning to pvp (which is the best part of eve by far)

Hey guys

Is it safe for us to play eve yet or have we been defeated ?

Hey guys

Is it safe for us to play eve yet or have we been defeated ?