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Binto Kie
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Posted - 2006.04.19 21:50:00 -
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I have read the backstory and am curious about something. Why are there no Jovians? At least you can not make a Jovian character.
Is this something planned for a future expansion? Is there a story that explains why you can not play as a Jovian?
If there is a place where this is explained i apologize for not seeing it.
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Vladimir Ilych
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Posted - 2006.04.20 18:26:00 -
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As i understand it is not planned to allow Jove chars or access to Jove space while they still exist. The only Jove are GM's and the the only Jove ships are piloted by GM's
It might be that the Jove die out. Access might then be "found" to their space and all that juicy technology they have.
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Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.04.20 22:33:00 -
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^not likely. General consensus between players is that Jove is the "race" for GM's and anyone in CCP, to not only distinguish themselves as CCP, but to also explain why they have such uberwtfpwning power, in both a normal MMO perspective, an an RP perspective.
It would also allot for why there are so few Jovians that show up (GM/CCP staff) considering the mentioned Jovian disease.
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John Renwick
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Posted - 2006.04.20 22:39:00 -
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My idea is that the Jovians are planning or maybe even implementing the first stages of a galaxy-wide invasion (EVE-a-geddon). 
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Arashi Miike
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Posted - 2006.04.24 09:10:00 -
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Ala the end of Earth and Beyond?
"I should have been a pair of ragged claws/
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James Duar
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Posted - 2006.04.24 14:15:00 -
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Isn't Jove space supposed to open up in Kali? I forsee dark times for the future of EVE.
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Tajidan
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Posted - 2006.04.24 15:34:00 -
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also a reason for the rare sightings of the joves is as you might read it, that because they collect every intel around they mostly travel cloaked and their cloakings are far better than every buyable cloak on the market.
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2006.04.24 21:24:00 -
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Jovians don't really have an intrest in conquest. They are so heavily modified they are driven by fairly non-human drives apparently.
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Luigi Thirty
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Posted - 2006.04.25 02:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Arashi Miike
Ala the end of Earth and Beyond?
Earth and Beyond ended in a massive invasion?
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BH Sharkbait
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Posted - 2006.04.25 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych
As i understand it is not planned to allow Jove chars or access to Jove space while they still exist. The only Jove are GM's and the the only Jove ships are piloted by GM's
It might be that the Jove die out. Access might then be "found" to their space and all that juicy technology they have.
this isn't quite true. only CCP staff are Jove characters. sometimes the aurpra events group with do jove events, but i think they are super rare. GM's are GameMasters and use normal characters.
and before anyone replys to my post asking when there out etc etc can i be a jove etc etc. i really have zero information about the jove race other than they are ulgy looking.
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Stephen Chow
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Posted - 2006.04.25 16:51:00 -
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During the Vegas convention Q&A there was go around about Jove characters. From Oveur's reaction, we won't be seeing the Jove as players (if ever) for years.
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Jiggs Casey
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:57:00 -
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I thought I read somewhere that being Jovian was invite only...
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James Duar
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Posted - 2006.04.26 13:32:00 -
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I don't think the Jove should EVER be player characters.
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McAnu
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Posted - 2006.04.27 11:41:00 -
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Maybe we should never see the Jovians as player characters but it would be nice to be able to travel into Jovian space etc.... where the possibility of finding there high spec equipment bpc's etc may be possible (like those which are currently available through the Cosmos agent's). If the Jovian space is never going to be introduced into the game I think it would be wrong. They are supposidly the reason why we are all here in the first place so to see some higher interaction either mission based or whatever would bring a new ethos into the game. Rather than just the coveted CCP WTFBOOM machines we see on the test servers ..........
Mc
P.S. I want one of those frigs  PVP would never be the same again ........
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Crista Metana
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:13:00 -
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Going off on a tangent for a minute. I've often wondered whether there are other civilizations out there apart from the humans in eve. I think it would be great if a non human race was introduced into the game. Maybe not to create characters with, because you would need a whole new set of skill types, but as npcs and agents, or like the rogue drones. They could come out of nowhere and attack weary travellers or decimate entire fleets.
I just think it would add a bit more mysticism to the game, a new unknown alien species...que the music from the Twilight Zone.
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Tarquin Tarquinius
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Posted - 2006.05.12 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 12/05/2006 19:02:45
For some reason I was thinking that they would eventually allow players to evolve into Jovians. Maybe if they maxed all the possible skills or something.
I think I read that somewhere, but it's equally possible that I pulled it out of my rear.
I only know of two Jovians: TomB and Valar
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Niques Leutre
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Posted - 2006.05.13 01:56:00 -
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I want a Jove battleship. 8/8/8 high/med/low slots... 30000+ PG... Oh, sorry, I'm drooling on myself again.
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ElectricFox
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Posted - 2006.05.14 16:46:00 -
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Hmm, so if only CCP staff are allowed to have Jovian characters, does that make the susceptible to the dreaded Jovian disease??? If so, I would hate to see Eve die out due to their deaths of chronic depression. So if CCP are listening out there...
Some things in life are bad,
They can really make you mad,
Other things just make you swear and curse,
When you're chewing life's gristle,
Don't grumble,
Give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best.
And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistle]
Always look on the light side of life.
[whistle]
If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten,
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps.
Just purse your lips and whistle.
That's the thing.
And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistle]
Always look on the right side of life,
[whistle]
For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word.
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin.
Give the audience a grin.
Enjoy it. It's your last chance, anyhow.
So,...
Always look on the bright side of death,
[whistle]
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
[whistle]
Life's a piece of ****,(excrement)
When you look at it.
Life's a laugh and death's a joke it's true.
You'll see it's all a show.
Keep 'em laughing as you go.
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.
And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
Always look on the right side of life.
[whistle]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistle]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistle]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistle]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistle]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistle]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistle]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistle]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistle]
Repeat to fade...
keep up the good work guys
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Talos Munjab
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Posted - 2006.05.14 20:53:00 -
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jovians are the elite chars in the game used rarly amarr got there arse¦s kicked when they tryed to invade jovian space (look in back storys)hopefully it will be open and you will be allowed to work for there agents that are in empire space ( genolution) think i can use a high end lv2 or low end lv3 when they become avalible
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OrionXL
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Posted - 2006.05.15 05:07:00 -
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i whana see some joves
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
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Posted - 2006.05.15 16:36:00 -
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If Jovians were to become playable to an extent. I think that only the more experienced RP-ers of the community would/should be capable of using them to progress the game.
I'd love to vote anybody into that position, but I'd personally not like to be Jove. They're ugly as sin; most have their agression removed; they reproduce using in-vitro, and did I mention they were ugly?
I'd love to fly Jovian ships, but only if the Jove figured Meb deserved to fly one.
Mmmmm wraith.....
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Tarquin Tarquinius
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Posted - 2006.05.15 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: OrionXL
i whana see some joves
here's one
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Einar Matveinen
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Posted - 2006.05.18 11:32:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
here's one
Wow!, they're really ugly!! 
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Dolly Parton
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Posted - 2006.05.18 17:24:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
Originally by: OrionXL
i whana see some joves
here's one
thats an improvement for some of these cats in this game
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Tarquin Tarquinius
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Posted - 2006.05.20 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 20/05/2006 17:52:47
I was poking around in the EVE FAQ and I came across this:
"The races in EVE are all of human origin, though they have evolved and some have been genetically altered until they have become quite distinct in appearance and characteristics. Players may choose to portray a character from four of the five races in EVE. These are: Amarr, Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar. Each race branches off into two bloodlines. The fifth race, Jovian, is unavailable to players at this time, though players will be given the opportunity to evolve into Jovians in the future."
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.05.22 20:00:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 20/05/2006 17:52:47
I was poking around in the EVE FAQ and I came across this:
"The races in EVE are all of human origin, though they have evolved and some have been genetically altered until they have become quite distinct in appearance and characteristics. Players may choose to portray a character from four of the five races in EVE. These are: Amarr, Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar. Each race branches off into two bloodlines. The fifth race, Jovian, is unavailable to players at this time, though players will be given the opportunity to evolve into Jovians in the future."
That FAQ is about three years old, and severely outdated. They've stated multiple times that they have no intention to bring Jovians in as a player race, ever.
Tarkin > Omfg, frigs are such bs.
Red 5 > lolol, lern 2 play plz noob
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Tarquin Tarquinius
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Posted - 2006.05.22 21:06:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Krulla
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 20/05/2006 17:52:47
I was poking around in the EVE FAQ and I came across this:
That FAQ is about three years old, and severely outdated. They've stated multiple times that they have no intention to bring Jovians in as a player race, ever.
party ****er
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Pika Eadesso
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Posted - 2006.05.23 19:54:00 -
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If you wanna know why you can't access Jove space, read Theodicy in the short stories section. Links in with the chronicle story of the Amarr fleet getting wtfpwned by the Joves. I found it a VERY good read :)
For the lazy who can't be a**ed readind, the Joves destroyed their own stargates and cut themselves off from socity to stop themselves from being manipulated by "The Order" and to fight them... or something... Eh Just read Theodicy :)
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Deathwind2097
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Posted - 2006.05.28 01:00:00 -
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truly i think that the devs should make a super top secret portal, stargate, or something to get to jove space. Something that you would have to quest for, and find on your own, finding clues to the portals whereabouts. Someway to get to jove space, otherwise it would be the most useless part of EVE. I actually believe there is a way right now to somehow reach jove space, but it requires extremely time consuming insight. like i said it would be pointless to create jove space and not be able to access it. And if you found the way into jove spaceyou would be marked down, and if an information leak was found on how to reach jove space your accounts would be deleted. in addition to seeing jove space you would be granted incredible technology, aka jove bs, skills, jove modules. all the stuff that couldnt be sold either. just an idea
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2006.05.28 20:10:00 -
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believe all you want. atm there are the stars on the servers but no nodes dedicated to them...ala...no nodes...no players.
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Arngorf
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Posted - 2006.05.29 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol
believe all you want. atm there are the stars on the servers but no nodes dedicated to them...ala...no nodes...no players.
are u sure about that?
I recall CCP doing testing stuff out there... 
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Ta'el Raviri
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Posted - 2006.06.15 14:51:00 -
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I can remember seeing video's of Jove ships and all. Very nice.
I like the idea of players being able to evolve into Jove. If it is true that CCP has said that this is no longer planned, than I think that is a shame. Evolving into a Jove could/should give you access to Jove space too, with a jumpdrive.
Just my 2 cents ;)
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Verizana
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Posted - 2006.06.15 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych
As i understand it is not planned to allow Jove chars or access to Jove space while they still exist. The only Jove are GM's and the the only Jove ships are piloted by GM's
It might be that the Jove die out. Access might then be "found" to their space and all that juicy technology they have.
they will probably let us in someday when we have reached the technology level Jove are at. They are high tech and supreme and so are CCP they have the power to solve problems and stuff so we might never get into jove space anyways
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James Duar
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Posted - 2006.06.16 10:15:00 -
[34]
When we get into Jove space, it will be because we can use 'true' jump drives in a general sense, the ones which can remotely lock onto a destination system via neutrino analysis mediated through 1-D cosmic strings.
When we get there, it's going to empty. Stations, technology (but not too dissimilar to what we have by then), but no Jove. It will look like a hasty departure, and there'll be odd particle fluxes all over the place, but no sign of any additional stargates, wormholes or jump drive activations. Like they just...vanished.
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.06.18 02:28:00 -
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Make it simple to become a Jove character you sacrifice 35 million skill points and start from zero as a jove character
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Bael Don'adur
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:33:00 -
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Wanna know why you will never be able to play a jove?
Simple, no one would play any other race. CCP>LucasArts in long term planning.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: James Duar
When we get into Jove space, it will be because we can use 'true' jump drives in a general sense, the ones which can remotely lock onto a destination system via neutrino analysis mediated through 1-D cosmic strings.
When we get there, it's going to empty. Stations, technology (but not too dissimilar to what we have by then), but no Jove. It will look like a hasty departure, and there'll be odd particle fluxes all over the place, but no sign of any additional stargates, wormholes or jump drive activations. Like they just...vanished.
Sounds like what happened with the Dwemer...
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Zaul Nex
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Posted - 2006.07.17 07:22:00 -
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Well, back in Jan. 25, 2005 Kieron made this comment
"The opening of Jovian space and characters as a playable race are slated as a post-Kali expansion. As of this moment, I do not have a time frame for the release of this expansion. There is a lot of work that needs to be done, including balancing of Jovian player characters, the creation of more Jovian ships, modules, weapons and storylines/fiction, the population of Jovian space, and testing, testing, testing.
Right now, the Jovian ships that exist in the Eve database are placeholders. They have been around in this form since the day Eve went live. At that time, they were the best ships in the universe but with the addition of new ships, new ship classes, and tech level 2, it is apparent that they have a lot of massaging that needs to be done. Currently there are no Jovian items in the database that I'm aware of.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online"
It looks like playable Jovian characters are in CCP's long term plans.
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Gary Bleck
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Posted - 2006.07.22 16:25:00 -
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I was reading the tech artical about pods and somthing about it poped out at me. The jovians gave us the pod tech. They refused to modify it to our genetic makeup. They refused compensation for it. The jovians have modified there genetic material so much they no longer reproduce sexualy and have a the get depressed and die problem currently limiting there numbers. It is rummored they are observing us yes? Isn't it possible that they gave us the pod tech in order to search for persons that have a specific genetic trait or traits that they need or that would allow us to geneticaly modified to become some kind of jovian hybrid? We may be part of a vast jovian experiment to cure the plauge that is currently keeping them from expanding there empire.
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Tengu Nezumi
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Posted - 2006.08.01 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bael Don'adur
Wanna know why you will never be able to play a jove?
Simple, no one would play any other race. CCP>LucasArts in long term planning.
While potentially problematic, not a real issue if things don't really change from how they are now. Simply put, keep the galactic map as is. No connecting gates between Jove space and the rest of the universe. Disallow any Jove ship from mounting a Jump Drive that allows travel via cyno fields. Problem solved. No need to balance them against the other races for pvp purposes, and no more draw to play them than being able to see new content.
Just a thought.
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Frezik
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2006.08.01 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tengu Nezumi
Edited by: Tengu Nezumi on 01/08/2006 03:01:19
Originally by: Bael Don'adur
Wanna know why you will never be able to play a jove?
Simple, no one would play any other race. CCP>LucasArts in long term planning.
While potentially problematic, not a real issue if things don't really change from how they are now. Simply put, keep the galactic map as is. No connecting gates between Jove space and the rest of the universe. Disallow any Jove ship from mounting a Jump Drive that allows travel via cyno fields. Problem solved. No need to balance them against the other races for pvp purposes, and no more draw to play them than being able to see new content.
Why would the most advanced race be unable to use jump drives? Even with that limitation, they still need to be balanced against other ships for pvp. Combat operations are perfectly doable without a jump drive.
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Just a thought.
On a side note, a further thought occurs... since you brought up LucasArts... They had a sound idea at first, which may have worked wonders had they stayed the course. Perhaps this would be another option...
No clones, as their tampered genetic code is too far gone for a proper copy without the code suffering degredation. Death becomes a permanent affair. The sickness further limits their lifespan... X months after character creation it dies. Time to make a new one. Either way gives a pretty good influence for playing something other than a Jovian character while still allowing them to function in 'normal' space.
Theodicy already mentioned a Jovian being killed and then waking up again (presumably through a clone, or perhaps some other means of restoration).
I don't have a reference, but I think Oveur mentioned at a fan fest that observing the Jedi problem in SWG is the major reason why Jove haven't been released. It is nearly impossible to limit the number of players who become Jove in the long term.
The one solution I see to this, which Theodicy appears to be paving the way for, is a counter-race to the Jove. You end up with the game being Jove vs. Dark Jove instead of Minmatar/Gallente vs. Amarr/Caldari. Features of Kali likely pave the way for this (particularly faction warefare).
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Rathnok
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Posted - 2006.08.03 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Frezik
Originally by: Tengu Nezumi
Edited by: Tengu Nezumi on 01/08/2006 03:01:19
Originally by: Bael Don'adur
Wanna know why you will never be able to play a jove?
Simple, no one would play any other race. CCP>LucasArts in long term planning.
While potentially problematic, not a real issue if things don't really change from how they are now. Simply put, keep the galactic map as is. No connecting gates between Jove space and the rest of the universe. Disallow any Jove ship from mounting a Jump Drive that allows travel via cyno fields. Problem solved. No need to balance them against the other races for pvp purposes, and no more draw to play them than being able to see new content.
Why would the most advanced race be unable to use jump drives? Even with that limitation, they still need to be balanced against other ships for pvp. Combat operations are perfectly doable without a jump drive.
I think you might have missed part of that. Combat operations are indeed perfectly doable without a jump drive, however meeting a jovian player would not be. He was saying to leave Jove space as is. Without added gates leading in or out of it. In that event, without a Jump Drive combat operations involving Jovian player and non-Jovian would NOT be possible as the Jovian players would be isolated in their own little section of space with no way in our out for either the Jovian players or other players. Since the only ships up there would be Jovian there wouldn't be any need to balance them against anything but themselves.
This of course would not only require that the Jovian player not be given Jump Drives, they would also have to be cut off from being able to generate Cyno fields for that to work.
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Constantinee
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 02:22:00 -
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What would be cool is
I think probably the coolest thing that could happen would be like a typical ufo sighting. For instance some one jumps to jita and sits outside the m4 station in a jove cruiser or something for a few minuets. Then does it in rens, amarr, tar ect. pretty much the main systems of the 4 races. then like a few months later the jovians invade each and everyone of those systems. the players are now left to fend for themselvs as concord and racial security agents are being obliterated by the jovian ships. the jovians would then conqure those systems and for the next few months it would be up to everyone in eve to band together and take back these systems 1 by 1. massive fleet battles throughout eve. Concord and players working together. after the 3 major race systems have been taken back the jovians then move to the last main region they have left and stand their final stand. us, the players launch a massive attack on that one region until it is taken back....but anypod that the jovians manage to warp scramble is taken back to jove space and those charcters are transformed into jovians and released back eve. And finally we do not see the jovians for many other years.
Although an event like this would take months it would be fun as hell and would finally answer the jovian questions and end the story ect.
so any feedback on how this would be
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.08.07 17:39:00 -
[44]
OMG. Duck, Duck, Grey Duck: EVE edition!
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Pierre Ishti
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Posted - 2006.10.06 14:14:00 -
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While I was playing last night, the CEO of the corp my character belongs to, showed me a link to a character he had kill rights on. I went and looked at who liked him and noticed he was neutral towards the Jove Empire. I thought it was interesting so I clicked on the info about the Jove empire, and I found they had a very high standing (9.00 points) with The Society of Conscious Thought. I checked the info on the Society of Conscious thought and found that it was a Jovian school. So... I located the coordinates of the school and sent my character on the craziest suicide mission ever...
http://www.eve-online.com/background/potw/feb03.asp
My character went into the remote Germinate region, and on the way there my ship was destroyed while going towards a jump gate only 5 jumps away from the system with the school in it. My pod went as far as it could... Just two more jumps, I thought.
Right as my pod was about to jump, a strange ship came out of the wormhole and pod-killed my character in two shots. The funny thing was.. I was thinking, ahhh my ship is detroyed I should head to a station somewhere.. When I looked for a station.. There wasn't a single one.
http://www.eve-online.com/background/potw/feb03.asp
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Sheerborn
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Posted - 2006.10.06 15:05:00 -
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I heard Jovians are bisexual.
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Ramming torpedo
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Posted - 2006.10.11 20:45:00 -
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It's not much but... I designed the jove titan (if there isn't one already).
Jove Titan, the Lucifer
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Jun Redric
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Posted - 2007.01.10 22:18:00 -
[48]
Originally by: James Duar
When we get into Jove space, it will be because we can use 'true' jump drives in a general sense, the ones which can remotely lock onto a destination system via neutrino analysis mediated through 1-D cosmic strings.
When we get there, it's going to empty. Stations, technology (but not too dissimilar to what we have by then), but no Jove. It will look like a hasty departure, and there'll be odd particle fluxes all over the place, but no sign of any additional stargates, wormholes or jump drive activations. Like they just...vanished.
that'd be cool like sum sort of parrellel unierse or summit or they all imploded or summit werid but like the ammarians cus they love to overtrhough places (like george bush) go the first and claim the space or summit like that
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lady ladington
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Posted - 2007.01.12 12:56:00 -
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haahhahahah
good one sheerborn
bisexual joves
really funny
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.12 20:14:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Ramming torpedo
It's not much but... I designed the jove titan (if there isn't one already).
Jove Titan, the Lucifer
I don't like it
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Hilabana
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.01.12 23:29:00 -
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I have seen jovians and even remember some of there names ..
But why do people wish to see a jovian now days do you know how long it takes for them to be clone .
And the cloning time must be longer now that the labs that sold the items you need to clone them have shut down.
even to find a clean blood drop or part to clone from is hard to find.
plus the clone only lasts 5 days you know.
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haniko kakinomoto
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:42:00 -
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Well i think the idea about joves taking over would be awesome..whilst concord and racial guards are fighting the jove, they will be too distracted to stop pirates from blowing up noobs.....great idea :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
neways i dont think they should implement the jove as playable characters...and as we know by their back stories there is going to be very few of them ever around due to the disease. But assuming they find a cure for the disease, they could come in the form of rats in 0.0 with their mighty pwn sticks...or they could be a 10/10 plex against a jovian operation with like....Plenty of jove drones making up for their lack of pilot numbers, then in the last stage a jove titan and dreads pilotted by real joves....hmmmmmmmm
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.01.17 02:54:00 -
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why don't we just use the new skills we've found these past few months into finding jovian gates.... I am sure they are in at least 16 systems 
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GoGo Yubari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.17 09:41:00 -
[54]
This thread needs more tinfoil than is capable of being produced in the cluster in a year.
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2007.01.18 00:46:00 -
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You would kill all that's interesting in the Joves. Sure, give them stats, make them just normal characters, destroy all the mysteries and secrets, show that they are just "another playable race" with some special mecanics.
What's nice from the Joves is that mystery, that inaccesibility that opens them to our imaginations only. Take that away and all you have is a new group of ships to use. Why not make a normal ship expansion, then?
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Posted - 2007.01.21 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Verizana
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych
As i understand it is not planned to allow Jove chars or access to Jove space while they still exist. The only Jove are GM's and the the only Jove ships are piloted by GM's
It might be that the Jove die out. Access might then be "found" to their space and all that juicy technology they have.
they will probably let us in someday when we have reached the technology level Jove are at. They are high tech and supreme and so are CCP they have the power to solve problems and stuff so we might never get into jove space anyways
jove ships are player flyable, i have something called a daredevil in my hanger, and a few bpc's of something called a Gila. Go ahead, try and find them on the market, I dare yuh.
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Teinyhr
Minmatar
United Systems Navy
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Posted - 2007.01.21 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hi Lo
jove ships are player flyable, i have something called a daredevil in my hanger, and a few bpc's of something called a Gila. Go ahead, try and find them on the market, I dare yuh.
Jove ships are in the game database, but they're not seeded nor their skills, which are, quite clearly "Jove frigate" "Jove industrial" etc. Not that they need to be, they aren't really that nber anymore.
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Besides, specialization is for insects.
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Lucius Amarriantis
Amarr
Ordo Occultus Deus
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Posted - 2007.01.30 12:19:00 -
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To quote from my records
"I have seen the madness, I have touched the void.
Sansha attempted to corrupt us but in so doing he sealed his own unmaking. I was there when the Traumark Installation fell, I was there to witness the Tash-Murkon shame.
There are scarce few others left alive aside myself who could speak of the Jovian intervention. Passed off now as rumour and myth
Alas - the folly of man!
Our great emperor knew it was the only way - yet he paid dearly.....we all paid dearly.
They are within the walls, they are within our fold. Hidden by dogma and Imperial decree, they move for change. The Amarrian rule of the empire has all but ended, for at the next passing the change will be complete.
What once was unreachable shall be re-established and the fury of the north shall be unleased.
Only then shall we know true fear, true horror. The harrowing realisation shall dawn upon us and we will gaze into the eyes of the warp and despair"
The truth is not out there, it is inside. Inside the walls, inside your mind and more importantly inside yourselves.
We are beyond hope now, the damage is done.
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.01.30 12:57:00 -
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jove are a long way off but in content terms id like to see CCP perhaps slowly introduce elements of jove over time in missions, cosmos and exploration elements
I think CCP will look to expand the existing races first ( rogue drones have quite a bit of unrealised potential) esp now they are self aware or one is ( x-series anyone with the khakk and the other ones)
OF course several sub factions ( mercanery forces, UDI, EOM factions) could be expanded and given their own sub systems cosmos has expnaded storylines on a localised basis
Of course this is all NPC and content PVE based but PVP remains king of the hill so far esp with 0.0
PVP we have factional warfare combat boosters etc etc
so its a tough call planetary interaction will blur the lines between PVE and PVP - um enhancing trading routes will also add elements.
Walking in stations is just a tangent but something CCP seem willing to pursue
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Nachshon
Caldari
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:35:00 -
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Possibilities:
1. In a future expansion, players may obtain Jovian genetic modifications. Eventually, Jovian ships become flyable. You cannot CREATE a Jovian character, but you can evolve into one.
2. Sometime after factional warfare is introduced, the Jovians have a civil war. After all, we know so little about the Jovians, they could be hiding immense internal tension right now. Anyway, the Jovian Empire begins to tear itself apart. Some factions build stargates to the rest of our space. Now, any ship from our side that tries to go through will get pwned pretty quick. HOWEVER, the Jovians send ships out to the capsuleer alliances, offering technology in return for committing pilots to their cause. Over time, Jovian technology leaks out, circulating among the capsuleers. Somehow, this technology never filters down to the empires - maybe you need certain implants to use it, and only capsuleers can fit these implants.
Eventually, the Jovians reach a kind of peace. However, the new Jovian Confederacy is a shadow of the Jovian Empire. At this point, Jovians become a playable race. This is not as much an advantage as it might seem - the Jovian Confederacy is weak, with capsuleers - both Jovian and foreign - a major influence. The Jovian capsuleers will be in control of the destiny of their nation.
How will this be balanced? Quite simple: most capsuleers will use Jovian technology, if they can afford them. Jovian technology will be like tech 3 - expensive, requiring a lot of skills, but available. The Jovians, meanwhile, will have so crippled themselves that they will no longer be able to produce this technology at a high level. A weaker Jovian technology will arise that is at a level comparable to empire technology. This is what new Jovian pilots will fly. True, they will have easier access to the 'real' Jovian technology, but at the cost of not having a strong nation to take care of them.
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Amarr
Extreme Pressure Developments
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Posted - 2007.02.05 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hi Lo
jove ships are player flyable, i have something called a daredevil in my hanger, and a few bpc's of something called a Gila. Go ahead, try and find them on the market, I dare yuh.
my my my... forget to take our medication this morning did we?
a daredevil is just a multimillion-isk frigate [and an average one at that] and a gila is a slightly crippled faction cruiser [omg a black moa!]
and for some inexplicible reason CCP have deigned to make all faction items non-searchable/sellable on the open market, which means we have to use that Contracts rubbish to get faction/officer/deadspace gear
Originally by: Abyssal Angel
I usually just fill our chat channels with drivel about corp mates moms and various human organs.
Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi
OMG LOL I TIEPED THIS PSOT WITH MAI FACE
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Irome
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:16:00 -
[62]
Jovians are the perfect solution to one of the biggest problems with Eve: Sucky PVE. World of Warcraft, for example, has incredibly complex, fun, and interesting PVE. Eve does not. Solution? Jovians.
1. Open up Jovian space through some kind of storyline. Renegade Jovian faction built a gate. Civil war. Somebody made the long flight over and put a gate there. Whatever.
2. Give storyline reason why someone would want to pwn on Jovians. You could do "Jovians have X bad trait, everyone wants to fight them for righteousness," or you could do "Amarr and Caldari want to fight Jovians, but Minmatar and Gallente want to fight the bad Jovian factions," or you could do "Everybody wants the Jovian technology, even the super liberal Gallente are willing to fight Jovians for it" or you could do "No Empire faction is at war with Jovians, but certain non-political groups are willing to hire and reward capsuleers for fighting them," etc., etc. Tons of ways to write storyline.
3. Create complex, EXCITING, interesting, fleet-based PVE content. Imagine: You and 20 of your alliance buddies form a fleet to fight a Jovian deadspace scout force, consisting of 2 Jovian frigates and a cruiser. Imagine: You and 50 alliance buddies get in your dreads and battleships to assault a Jovian POS and its defense force.
4. ???
5. Win.
Seriously, Eve will finally break into the American MMO market. Even the lack of easymode will no longer deter us from playing Eve anymore. PVE content! What a concept!
Loot: Obviously it can't be so ridiculously good that it destroys the whole player-initiated, player-driven concept to the Eve universe, so here's a solution: Have this PVE content drop items that must be analyzed or researched or whatever to create BPCs of Jovian technology. Voila, you get both reward for PVE and another element to help the player-run economy.
Long run: Maybe one day, regular people figure out how to evolve into Jovians from some kind of storyline element. Or Jovians can still disappear into the void and leave behind crap to investigate. The point is, this doesn't remove the other possibilities for plans to incorporate Jovians into the universe.
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General Grevous
Caldari
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.02.07 13:52:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Bael Don'adur
Wanna know why you will never be able to play a jove?
Simple, no one would play any other race. CCP>LucasArts in long term planning.
i hear that... the Jedi of EvE
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Maaien Tekern
Minmatar
The Hidden Court
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Posted - 2007.02.08 02:46:00 -
[64]
'Becoming' a Jovian seems humourous. The Jovians are a race, not a club.
'Evolve' is aso a funny term to be using in such a context.
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Camperific
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.02.09 12:29:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 12/05/2006 19:02:45
For some reason I was thinking that they would eventually allow players to evolve into Jovians. Maybe if they maxed all the possible skills or something.
I think I read that somewhere, but it's equally possible that I pulled it out of my rear.
I only know of two Jovians: TomB and Valar
Yeah i remember reading that aswell.
But since i can think of at least one char with 150mil sp's..i can't even imagine how long it will be till they allow it
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Nionn Achren
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Posted - 2007.02.09 16:17:00 -
[66]
I take a screenshot of a jove ship.
I almost had no time and only shows a part of it.
But was a Jove ship, so they, in fact exist.Was taken in Osmeden.
Undock & warp so quick.....
http://eve-files.com/dl/87133
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Pottsey
Gallente
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2007.02.09 17:04:00 -
[67]
The real reason here are no Jove is they are losing to there enemy and the numbers are dwindling. Not that they will be wiped out they still have a use as a way to keep the other empires in check.
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XerZex
Puppets on Steroids
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.13 12:04:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Nionn Achren
I take a screenshot of a jove ship.
I almost had no time and only shows a part of it.
But was a Jove ship, so they, in fact exist.Was taken in Osmeden.
Undock & warp so quick.....
http://eve-files.com/dl/87133
that is not a jove ship - thats a faction "angel" Battle ship - go for about 800mil.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0602/angel_BS.png
named a macheral or something.
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Herrick TGN3
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Posted - 2007.02.14 10:29:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Irome
2. Give storyline reason why someone would want to pwn on Jovians. You could do "Jovians have X bad trait, everyone wants to fight them for righteousness," or you could do "Amarr and Caldari want to fight Jovians, but Minmatar and Gallente want to fight the bad Jovian factions," or you could do "Everybody wants the Jovian technology, even the super liberal Gallente are willing to fight Jovians for it" or you could do "No Empire faction is at war with Jovians, but certain non-political groups are willing to hire and reward capsuleers for fighting them," etc., etc. Tons of ways to write storyline.
The easiest way is maybe have the Jove forced into contact again to preserve their existence by abducting other races for their "clean" DNA. Since the Jove kinda screwed themselves and the other races will still have remnants of original earthling DNA. This could lead into a complex PvE quest as you have to investigate the disappearance of agents or someone else leading you to make first contact. (through the use of railguns)
Oh yeah first post woo yay ect.
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Saturous
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.25 12:27:00 -
[70]
gimmie a concord bs
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T'ni Iommi
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Posted - 2007.05.25 21:42:00 -
[71]
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Posted - 2007.05.26 11:15:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Albert Wittmann on 26/05/2007 11:14:35
I looking the corporations of Jove ... why are all ceos of the corps are non-jovians?
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Odium47
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Posted - 2007.10.14 17:35:00 -
[73]
Does anyone have the specs for all the jove ships ?
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Heliosus
The Greater Goon
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.27 06:03:00 -
[74]
Originally by: James Duar
I don't think the Jove should EVER be player characters.
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Bailian Moxtain
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.04 17:56:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Odium47
Does anyone have the specs for all the jove ships ?
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Cabbs Babbage
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Posted - 2007.11.05 18:22:00 -
[76]
I dont see how the SWG Jedi problem applies to a player population that consists entirely of pod pilots. There are no NPC pod pilots. All pod pilots could simply be introduced to the aim of evolving into more specialised faction/jove hybrids, could they not? This would not make your starting form completely irrelevant, and we modify ourselves in all sorts of ways anyway (plugging our brains into computers, editing our abilities, implants). From a story perspective, pod pilots merely become more complicated.
Unlike Star Wars, we dont have a set story to adhere to, we are writing it, etc
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.09 19:54:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Gary Bleck
The jovians have modified there genetic material so much they no longer reproduce sexualy and have a the get depressed and die problem currently limiting there numbers.
What do I get from the Jovian's for discovering the solution to the Jovian disease?
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
Post with your alt.
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Nachshon
Caldari
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.11.19 16:21:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Gary Bleck
The jovians have modified there genetic material so much they no longer reproduce sexualy and have a the get depressed and die problem currently limiting there numbers.
What do I get from the Jovian's for discovering the solution to the Jovian disease?
A Cookie-class Jovian noob frigate. It's about as powerful as a Rifter or Punisher.
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