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Zappity
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:25:00 -
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Far too expensive. That much for a paint job on a 500k hull? Umm... no. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2324
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:10:00 -
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Ali Aras wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Mangala Solaris wrote:Ive been itching to spill the beans on these, so happy this blog is out. Yeah, but you have had plenty of time to stock up buying plexes , but you were going to do that anyway, and you would never use inside information to make all kinds of coin for yourself and the other cartel members. No, because CCP IA would own us :( Also, we couldn't stockpile CONCORD LP, either.
Right, and I am sure CCP tracks every possible trading alt of every CSM member, plus all the alts of all their friends. Sorry, plex prices spiked as soon as this was announced.
Anyone who knew ahead of time just made out like bandits.
And I just love how me playing the game just got more expensive in order to pay for someone else's vanity. By the time this program hits full gear we will be seeing 750M plexes, bare mininum. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Lirbank
Mixed Mining Arts Fifth Freedom
3
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:13:00 -
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Altrue wrote:Crasniya wrote:Chirjo Durruti wrote:Stopped reading there. Srsly, WTF? I already pay you for content on a monthly basis. Would you rather your subscription money pay for ship skins, or more actual gameplay? By charging separately for skins, your subscription money isn't wasted on cosmetics development. Why would anyone complain about this? You've been nicely formatted indeed But I don't think CCP hired anyone for this so this is effective dev time wasted.
Grind some ISK (around 650-700 mill) buy a plex from the market (ingame). Convert to arum. And your subscription and some work have paid your paint job.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1501
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:13:00 -
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You should also take in mind that:
- Some poeple may not use those skins yet beacause they waiting for Kor-Azor skin or Su-ve magacorp skin - Some may not use them yet beacause they will be aweilable for one typo of a ship per class atm like it shows on SiSi where you have them only for example on Punisher, Omen, and Abbadon and they may wanot use it on a Apocalypse |
Arthur Aihaken
Perkone Caldari State
3000
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:21:00 -
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Dear CCP/Devs, as a token of my appreciation for the Ship Painting Pilot Program, I purchased 2500 AUR tokens today. Even though the paint blueprints are not yet available nor for my favorite ship, and even though this endeavour is still in its infancy - I wanted to show my support (and vote with my wallet) for what is probably the most sought-after aesthetic upgrade for EVE. Thank-you. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
257
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:21:00 -
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Bah, Kador is too dark and lacks the cold contrast that EOM ships have. It's clearly all Tash-Murkon they are waiting for!
Quote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Dear CCP/Devs, as a token of my appreciation for the Ship Painting Pilot Program, I purchased 2500 AUR tokens today. Even though the paint blueprints are not yet available nor for my favorite ship, and even though this endeavour is still in its infancy - I wanted to show my support (and vote with my wallet) for what is probably the most sought-after aesthetic upgrade for EVE. Thank-you.
You should have shown your support in not buying AUR and thus encouraging CCP going along this path. We need these skins for ISK and LP form their respective faction LP stores, not overpriced PLEX grinders. |
Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:24:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:People need to pull out the thing up their rear about Aurum. Every MMO has something similar now.
And while companies like Blizzard have turned to "$60 to bump your character up to level 90", CCP is doing it only for vanity stuff. So what? This is EVE, who the hell cares what happens anywhere else?
Teinyhr wrote:As long as it is just vanity stuff, I don't care two ***ts if it's bought with real or toy money. Why all this talk about vanity stuff? Choosing an individual paint scheme should be part of the basic game package - i.e. included in character creation (but with the option to alter it later as with avatar clothing). |
Vance Armistice
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:24:00 -
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Completely in favor of this!
I like to see CCP be able to offer players the option to have micro transactions that those of us who have the money and want the skins can purchase them without causing any p2w issues to creep up. Everyone wins here .
CCP I suggest tat you not lower the price until you have had some time and sales to reflect on.
Lastly I would have a season where only certain hulls are painted that way only some premade skins will be available at a given time, players would have to buy the skins at the low prices or get gouged by resellers tHat did buy at the appropriate time.
Keep the good stuff coming, I think there will be a strong market for it. I certainly will have one of each to display in my hangar |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2047
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:26:00 -
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The skins need to have a purely nominal cost so that no one will care if they get ganked as soon as they undock.
Pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap. This is not a signature. |
Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:27:00 -
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Celfea Dur wrote:I don't fully understand why a custom paint scheme would require a unique item ID. You're not creating a new item, you're only applying a new shading layer to an existing graphic model.
Kusum Fawn wrote: Make ship painting an addition to ships, not new ships. Making specialty ships with new colors is not the ship painting that everyone was wanting or hoping for. While it is an interesting step, this is not a good decision.
Why the same ship painted green instead of brown would have be an entirely new item, and one that is only available form specialty shops, is kind of mind boggling when you attempt to apply it to any real life analogues. This is clearly explained in the blog.
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Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:28:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:6) To the people complaining about the typeid, you did not write the DB, so you dunno how its set to draw the id's. You also have to remember, the database programing is 11+ years old, and when eve first came it, it could not support customization of ships without melting. This is also why they are testing, to see if the server's can handle this without freaking out. Then they can use the money to fix the DB so this is possible. Homeworld 2 is also 11+ years old, but every player gets to choose his own ship paint scheme from an infinitely variable palate, together with a badge of his choice (including designing his own). I know that HW2 isn't an MMO and I know nothing about programming, so correct me if I'm wrong, but surely the principles of adding colour to a computer model must be universal?
Why any forward-thinking developer would make it part of the basic itemID instead of a separately applicable element is beyond my imagination, but that's what CCP seem to have done so I think they need to undo that asap, whatever they do about custom paint jobs.
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Alvar Kesh
Ealurian Shipyards
55
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:30:00 -
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Completely suporting this. Would be great to have ship skins as common as rigs. Ealurian Shipyards' BPC shop |
Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:32:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Caelo Agalder wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Caelo Agalder wrote:Nice idea.
Too expensive.
1000 AUR = 1 PLEX
1 PLEX = 650mil ISK
1 Painting = 45 AUR
1 PLEX actually converts to 3500 AUR Still 8.5mil which, for larger ships (or T2 like Wolf or Jag) is not bad... But not a Rifter. however, billy bob player could pay for it via a plex and decide to sell it on the market for 1m isk. He paid for the plex with irl money, so can sell it for whatever he wants. Yeah, too right - people regularly sell stuff for 12% of the cost of producing it.
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21 Day Trial
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
18
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:32:00 -
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If anyone wants to have a look at some of the ships, head over to www.eohgames.com/labs
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Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:34:00 -
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Sinooko wrote:I'd rather pay $20 for a permanently applicable ship skin, than $0.25 for a skin lost in combat. This.
Crasniya wrote:Realistically, if you're going to lose your spaceship in a week, bothering to paint it and give it a name is probably a waste of some emotional attachment you should devote elsewhere.
Every feature is not meant for use in PvP. Even if they do make for more hilarious PvP targets.
DaReaper wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Edward Olmops wrote: I think if you lose 20 Erebuses per month, MAYBE, just MAYBE you can afford the paint. ;-) (and it is not that they would be unusable in regular colors)
Thanks for that input but I'm more thinking about other, more mundane ships that you regularly lose... then you don't paint them? Honestly, again, trial program, changes coming eventually. Don't paint a ship you might lose. Or if you do, don't lose it. Simple as that You guys just don't get it, do you? A lot of us want to have ALL our ships rendered in the same colour scheme.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4976
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:39:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:MeBiatch wrote:not sure if asked but will the skin show up on kill mails? That's what it says in the dev blog. It shows the new name of the ship, no mention of a change unless you know what you are looking at.
Just search the dev blog for kill:
Devblog, under "What do I need to do to get those pretty ships wrote:To reiterate, the only thing that changes is the color. All the stats will remain the same. Also, to state the obvious: When your painted ship is destroyed, wellGǪ then it is destroyed. Yes, this destruction will be supported in killmails.
Looking forward to pretty ships on killmails, yes? Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Marcus Gideon
Federal Defense Operations Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
147
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:40:00 -
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If these are mostly Aurum based, they are going to become the new monocles. Only characters with ISK pouring out their ears, or a firm grip on mommy's credit card, will have painted ships.
However, given how strenuous CCP has always made this sound (adding a new skin to an existing ship model) then I suppose they don't want too many of them running around. The underlying code necessary to make the colors on Ship A look like the colors on Ship B must be incomprehensible.
=) |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4976
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:40:00 -
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Vila eNorvic wrote:You guys just don't get it, do you? A lot of us want to have ALL our ships rendered in the same colour scheme.
Assuming CCP go down the path of "paint job is something you fit to your ship" it's not unreasonable to expect that you'd be able to update your saved fittings with the new paint job. Assemble ship, make active, *fit*. Voilla! Ship is the same colour scheme as the one you just got blown up in!
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:46:00 -
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Ransu Asanari wrote:-The Aliastra Edition ships basically look like Caldari Kaalakiota designed ships (Black with Red Accents). I'm pretty sure your upscale Gallente might be a bit insulted by that. Obviously not, or they wouldn't have used it on their Catalyst. I see no point in suggesting changes to colour schemes that already exist in game. In any case, green and black would be much too close to the standard Gallente livery.
The Aliastra Incursus is the only thing that might tempt me into acquiring some Aurum from somewhere. It would sit nicely alongside my Aliastra Catalyst in my special edition ships hangar, but that's as far as it would go - I would have no iention of having it shot out from under me the instant I undocked it, which is what's likely to happen to most of these ships if the cost isn't cut by about 90%. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4976
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:49:00 -
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Marcus Gideon wrote:If these are mostly Aurum based, they are going to become the new monocles. Only characters with ISK pouring out their ears, or a firm grip on mommy's credit card, will have painted ships.
This is where feedback becomes important.
For example, just mention in this thread what your preferences are. For me, I have two extremes:
- I really like things like the Interzone Shipping and Aliastra skins, and can't wait to paint all my derpatrons with Interzone colours, but since this is for PVP I'd be balking at a paint job that cost more than the hull or even a module.
- On the other hand, I'd like some visually distinctive and stupidly expensive skins for my mission-running ships so I can show off how stupidly rich I am when undocking from Lanngisi SOE station!
IMHO there is scope for "cheap" skins for disposable ships (perhaps leading to alliance or corporation uniform colours), costing around 100k ISK for a frigate, up to "bling" skins costing around 1B ISK for a pirate battleship (typically a Machariel, CNR, Nightmare) or marauder. I would expect "bling" skins to be obnoxiously ostentatious: lots of shiny surfaces with different metallic colours for example. No taste, no trace of artistic sense, just the space equivalent of heavy gold chains to wear while strutting your stuff.
Pink and white colour scheme for my Widow, Orca and Skiffs? Yes please =)
Polished & brushed platinum skin for my CNR? I'll buy that for a (hundred) dollar (of someone else's money)! Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
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Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:49:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Vila eNorvic wrote:You guys just don't get it, do you? A lot of us want to have ALL our ships rendered in the same colour scheme.
Assuming CCP go down the path of "paint job is something you fit to your ship" it's not unreasonable to expect that you'd be able to update your saved fittings with the new paint job. Assemble ship, make active, *fit*. Voilla! Ship is the same colour scheme as the one you just got blown up in! I never assume anything - especially where CCP is concerned. |
Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:57:00 -
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Vila eNorvic wrote:What free AUR?
Steve Ronuken wrote:back in 2011(I think), there was an eve is real campaign and for a bunch of links on facebook, everyone active was given some aurum.
Thanks for clearing that up. Other posters have been implying that free Aurum was given out to everyone, not just a minority who took part in a promotion.
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Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 07:58:00 -
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Kingstontown wrote:And lets be honest. really... a police comet.. with flashing lights? Please let us just take this game more seriously then this. +1
Ganthrithor wrote:*And by "my Machariel," I mean, "Every ship I own." Some people just aren't getting this bit. |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
335
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:00:00 -
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I highly endorse and/or support this product.
I also like the idea of dropping the prices a little for a destructible, one-off paint job but charging an increased price for a permanent change to every Rifter / Mach / whatever you fly forever more. www.crossingzebras.com |
Vila eNorvic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:02:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:I will add my voice to the people suggesting that an 8M ISK paint job for a 500k ISK frigate should probably be a job lot of 10 or 20, especially if I'm planning on using this in PVP. Good luck with that.
Quote:-+Frigate paint; around 45 AURUM (~$0.23-$0.26) for a single application |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4976
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:18:00 -
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Vila eNorvic wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:I will add my voice to the people suggesting that an 8M ISK paint job for a 500k ISK frigate should probably be a job lot of 10 or 20, especially if I'm planning on using this in PVP. Good luck with that. Quote:-+Frigate paint; around 45 AURUM (~$0.23-$0.26) for a single application
This is a feedback thread. We provide feedback about the prices we'd like to see.
If you think the prices are too high, you could also voice your opinion Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4976
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:19:00 -
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Vila eNorvic wrote:Thanks for clearing that up. Other posters have been implying that free Aurum was given out to everyone, not just a minority who took part in a promotion.
It was given out to everyone who was active during the promotion. I have the free Aurum on all my accounts that were active at the time, most of the promotion involved a Flash-based web site which I couldn't interact with.
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Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc Zero Hour Alliance
295
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:21:00 -
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Very much looking forward to this feature, although I'm not onboard with the whole aurum thing.
There is already so much similarity between corp LP stores that I think it will serve the PVE and roleplay community better if the corporation-based skins are tied to their respective corps' LP stores. This should add some more flavour to the mission runners; who atm all flock to the same corporations.
Very much like how the police frig is tied to Concord LP though, so well done there :)
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Chitsa Jason
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1207
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:36:00 -
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Woop woop.
Can not wait for the next itrerrations of this project :) CSM8 Member Twitter:-á@ChitsaJason Skype: Casparas
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Lukas Rox
Aideron Technologies
59
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Posted - 2014.03.07 08:37:00 -
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21 Day Trial wrote:If anyone wants to have a look at some of the ships, head over to www.eohgames.com/labsApologies, logos, navigation and internal lights aren't currently working, but there is 400+ customised ships to look at.
Update your CCP WebGL library. Lights, effects and animations are working just fine since I upgraded mine. Example: http://pozniak.pl/database/index.php?id=10&id2=1&nr=33470 Blogging about EVE on http://pozniak.pl/ |
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