With improvements to NOS, are we going to see enhancements to batteries?

is FOR REALZ, no April fool.

is FOR REALZ, no April fool.

if you're looking at the stats on TC's, surely you can see that they currently BUFF ~half the TRACKING of an easier to fit and more generally useful TD? it kind of sucks that this is the counter to TD, and you need two of them to counter a single TD.

TC's should probably BOOST the same TRACKING as a TD, and imo they should be pretty easy to fit, since they're just a TD defence module. trying to HIT a FRIG off one is pretty much just a joke, even if you buff them.

so yeah, buff is good, but why by such a tiny amount?

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...enhancements to batteries?

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Speaking of blood raider ships how but giving the skin some love it looks like its covered in poo now not blood......It would be nice to see NOS actually useful again.

You mean make them worth considering ever?

the new Blood Raider ship line.

I am very concerned that this changed might make it too easy for frigates to hold tackle on bigger ships possibly making it impossible to neut a frigate to loose its tackle
I am all for frigates being used more maybe one day in large scale combat but I don't think this will do any good atleast for small NOS

With improvements to NOS, are we going to see enhancements to batteries?

Another vote for changing their fitting requirements. They feel like they still have huge requirements that tried to balance them back when they worked like neuts that gave energy back. They don't any more, so they shouldn't be so agonizing to fit.

I told you that last summer's Nos mechanic change would fail and something like this would be necessary.

Thanks for removing the utility highs from both Gallente HACs

Thanks for removing the utility highs from both Gallente HACs

Since you are revisiting the topic of energy leeching, could the currently fairly useless Semiconductor Memory rigs maybe get the same treatment the battery modules got with their reflect bonus?
The game mechanics look to be in place already, don't know if there are any programming reasons this wouldn't be a Little Thing(ߦÇߦ¦) ?
I honestly don't know _anyone_ who uses this kind of rigs as they are completely outclassed by the Capacitor Controls, with a nice little pvp only bonus there would be a serious choice between more efficient cap recharge and defense.

I use them, and I'm far from alone.

Ranger!

But you said that Nos would "become more popular on all cruiser class, and several BC's", which was predictably wrong. I mean, you didn't even notice how few utility slots modern cruisers have!

I said that the mechanic changes was a bad idea because it would have minimal effect on usage patterns and future changes would be required, particularly for heavy Nos... which was right. Especially for the heavy Nos bit, which is being ignored in this crude blanket change and will require another set of fixing in in the future...

there too difficult to fit ... at least half there fitting requirements .. probably needs a 3rd off really..

large cap battery works well on a brawling dual rep Ishtar. (small blasters in the highs).

Does the 'Strigoi', 'Vrykolas' and the other Nosferatu actually exist in-game?

Eh... It's a beneficial change I guess. But the fix you REALLY need to make is to correct the fitting issues.

Until the PG/CPU costs are reduced down to Neut level or lower, the module is still only going to see use on specific tackle ships. And as many have pointed out, the changes you are proposing only make it MORE likely they will be fitted on tackle boats as opposed to more widespread use. While you are at it, you could also take a look at making Cap Batteries NOT suck (again fitting issues).

There is an odd situation on blood raider line, specifically cruor. We know changes will make its web and neut/nos out of sync. I believe the main idea of the change is allowing cruor to reach faster (cruor is always slower than others) target than netu/nos him. As it is explained many times in pirate ship thread, cruor will face opponents web when he get close enough and will not be able to reach his neut/nos range. This makes cruors main power ineffective.

We dont want to make one ship too powerfull over others. So CCP did not grant similar bonus for cruor web and neut/nos ( I still think it is a wrong decision). CCP can instead buff nos in a different manner. Make its overload bonus as range bonus so that it can reach web range. All the other ships will benefit from it if they use nos but we know it will be mostly used by blood raiders. So the change will not be specifically for cruor but it will solve one of big problems for the ship.

I'm seeing more fits being created, shared, and used than I have seen in a long time on cruiser size and down. Large NOS, predictably, not so much... since NOS is a not a weapons system designed to be effective vs smaller ships like Neuts specifically are.

a bunch of useless stuff

While this is a nice change, it doesn't address their problems on small-class hulls and the general uselessness of utility high slots. Small nos/neuts need their range extended to match warp scramblers. This has been asked for for years; since you're finally looking at the modules, I say it's about time it gets done.

You mean make them worth considering ever?