Only the Goon's and their like minded minions think this is a good idea, what does that tell you?

/ Signed for Removal

You guys are signing to remove a feature which you haven't even bothered to test. A feature that makes the game more player-driven, in a game that is marketed as the ultimate sandbox with player-driven emergent content.

Where is your sense of adventure? Give it a try~

Its people that post like PMCHEM that give me the slightest sense of hope for this game (and often this genre). Thank you for talking sense and demonstrating a very well thought out and analyzed position on this feature.

I concur with your perspective that POCO is a critical first (or early) big step in the DUST/EVE linkage. CCP needs to show this very alert and questioning playerbase that they've got a serious vision for this game.

People, the deadline CCP is focused on is not the 29th of November. It's the 20th of December. If CCP botches this rollout it could be a rough next year or longer. You've got to evolve and grow to stay alive in any business, especially this one.

I seriously hope they not only make the right decisions about how this new mechanic will work but also how to communicate their recently publicized 'new and improved approach' to EVE ONLINE.

I don't think POCOs are a bad idea as such (at least not in 0.0), but I'm not convinced it will suit lowsec in its current form. Rushing this feature into the live game is bad, while they could choose for a much more gradual approach (test it in 0.0). Anyway, too late to do anything about it now. We will see in a few days how it works out.

You guys are signing to remove a feature which you haven't even bothered to test. A feature that makes the game more player-driven, in a game that is marketed as the ultimate sandbox with player-driven emergent content.

Where is your sense of adventure? Give it a try~

I am just laughing with some friends and enjoying watching you and your alts post about a feature you haven't tested and aren't even saying why you don't like it (this feature you haven't used).

Pro trollin' my friend pro trollin'.

Will the Interbus POCO's have a reinforcement timer or can they been blow up straight away?
So the planet is free for my own?

I can only assume that CCP in theyre infinitive wisdom never thought about Corporations with perhaps as many as 50 members doing PI... on each 6 planets (example).

This means now, that after rights been assigned - you have 50 people that can unanchor ure POS (same rights).

I can only assume that CCP in theyre infinitive wisdom never thought about Corporations with perhaps as many as 50 members doing PI... on each 6 planets (example).

This means now, that after rights been assigned - you have 50 people that can unanchor ure POS (same rights).
Or.. did CCP assume that the directors/CEO/Trusted personal with the anchoring rights, wont mind running around on 50 * 6 planets and set up PI Offices, that will without doubt be instaganked in Low Sec/No-Sov Null sec?


BRILLIANT... *sarcasm*.


And double link capacity ? - really... uhm.. thats not really interesting, unless youre in Null/WH's/Low low sec, as High sec, and High LS cant generate enuff to even warrent a single link upgrade.. ok - i grant there are those that can squeese out more, and thus need the link - but over all - truly a poorly trade.

Seems to me like the "new proffession: PI Typhoon comes to a staggering halt.

Oh well - i assume CSM Null ppl and CCP's null friends are happy with the change, so what does our opinion matter anyway.
Time to take down the PI and POSes. Hey, look at the bright side.. now there are less PI in the game, and prices will raise.. oh wait.. that means less planets for Dust514 to invade... - as i said.. brilliant.. truly brilliant.. someone wasnt thinking this through me thinks..

- LB

No reinforcement. But the Interbus offices take longer to kill than player ones (14.5 mil hp, vs 7.5 + 4.5).

You guys are signing to remove a feature which you haven't even bothered to test. A feature that makes the game more player-driven, in a game that is marketed as the ultimate sandbox with player-driven emergent content.

Where is your sense of adventure? Give it a try~

If you can control/secure a lowsec system, now you can profit from it. Simple as that.

No reinforcement. But the Interbus offices take longer to kill than player ones (14.5 mil hp, vs 7.5 + 4.5).

So, let me get this straight? CCP, in an effort to energize the content dry and oft complained of Low Sec, introduces a feature that has profit potential (everyone magnet), pirate/maffia infighting potential w/ lots o' pvp (low sec magnet) and smacks of soveriegn/territory control as well as big potential for inspired FW fights (null sec & FW magnet).

It could be thier plan to turn low sec into the EVE farmland and introduction to territorial warfare.

Or I guess it could be a completely iditotic excuse for a PI update that is doomed to utterly fail...leading to more mass firings out of Iceland...tipping a critical butterfly wing effect throughout world markets (CCP world wide international corporation run by Vikings you know) which results in a huge double dip market collapse driving Earth into a Greatest EVEr Depression.....

Could be either. Or neither. I'll try it.

I'd rather go w/ the first one though

If you've lived in low sec you know its the second one.

Issler

Your posting is so bad -- hysterical, defeatist claims not backed up by any kind of logical arguments or sisi testing, and signed by your own damn forum name again and again -- that I may actually track down your area of operations and come kill every stupid CO in the region. Just because of your posting.

I see you're some in some terrible corp with 30% efficiency on eve-kill, operating mostly in genesis and khanid. With a string of exhumer and T1 BC losses but basically no success. No wonder you don't want anything that could possibly be shot by players, you might have to pvp in lowsec, or ally with someone who can fight for you. The end of the world!!

You're currently located in Meildolf, Molden Heath region. Doing PI there while safely doing industry and mining in the highsec island next to it? Be seeing you.

Your posting is so bad -- hysterical, defeatist claims not backed up by any kind of logical arguments or sisi testing, and signed by your own damn forum name again and again -- that I may actually track down your area of operations and come kill every stupid CO in the region. Just because of your posting.

I see you're some in some terrible corp with 30% efficiency on eve-kill, operating mostly in genesis and khanid. With a string of exhumer and T1 BC losses but basically no success. No wonder you don't want anything that could possibly be shot by players, you might have to pvp in lowsec, or ally with someone who can fight for you. The end of the world!!

You're currently located in Meildolf, Molden Heath region. Doing PI there while safely doing industry and mining in the highsec island next to it? Be seeing you.

Some inspired guesses, but, nope, did live in the high sec bubble a couple of years back and definitely not living in Meildolf, Pass through there once in a while so start there if you think chasing me down is a good use of your time.

What you don't get is SiSi testing has nothing to do with the nature of low sec in the real Eve world. I live with the low sec pirates and watch what motivates them. This "feature" assumes someone living there is going to suddenly want to work in some group hug lets all make isks fashion. They won't. They will like something new to shoot at though when they are bored or if they think it would produce "carebear tears".

I mean look at you, from forum postings you want to hunt me or pop the COs where you think I live (I've already assumed they be gone in days anyways and have taken appropriate action). What really proves my point is if you wanted to prove me wrong you'd find some low sec place where I do PI in and put up your own PoCos and tax me. The fact you didn't consider that proves my point. These will be popped just for the popping.

As to my corp, we are very typical of industrial corps, the kind of corp that finds something like PI a worthwhile pass time. Folks like us are a big part of Eve and this feature will just make us like Eve less.

And what about signing with my forum name, its branding!

Issler

Is'nt this what's great about EVE, Issler? You can be utterly certain that your limited perspective of what this game is all about and how it works is simply 'The Way It Is'. Yet, there are people ALL AROUND YOU that see the whole thing differently.

And they profit. And they hunt. And they manipulate and wheel and deal. And some play alot like you and others play differently all together.

And CCP is going to add something to the game that will change it. And despite your devoutly proclaimed prophecy, the game, or low sec or whatever percentage of reality you believe will collapse, probably won't.

You might, then, look at this whole thing differently. Or you might call Goons names on an MMO forumn.

A somewhat more arcane request:

Could we please get some good story background on the Interbus customs offices? My alliance has been discussing whether we want to shoot down Interbus COs (they're neutral, why would we?), and even whether we consider others shooting Interbus COs as piracy (they're shooting corp property of a peaceful entity, so yes; CONCORD doesn't care at all, so no?)

It's a lovely discussion, but there's awfully little backstory on the issue, so it's not easy to actually discuss the ethical ramifications. *Some* background would be nice :-)

Is'nt this what's great about EVE, Issler? You can be utterly certain that your limited perspective of what this game is all about and how it works is simply 'The Way It Is'. Yet, there are people ALL AROUND YOU that see the whole thing differently.

And they profit. And they hunt. And they manipulate and wheel and deal. And some play alot like you and others play differently all together.

And CCP is going to add something to the game that will change it. And despite your devoutly proclaimed prophecy, the game, or low sec or whatever percentage of reality you believe will collapse, probably won't.

You might, then, look at this whole thing differently. Or you might call Goons names on an MMO forumn.

I live in lowsec (somewhere in Molden Heath and have spent the majority of my Eve life in low sec of
null) and do all my PI in low sec.

Some inspired guesses, but, nope, did live in the high sec bubble a couple of years back and definitely not living in Meildolf, Pass through there once in a while so start there if you think chasing me down is a good use of your time.