I kind of assumed that the problem was not the damage, but being tackled, as it makes you unable to actually take back stuff you mined. MWD can probably fix that, but not sure if you can fit propmod and still have enough tank, and if both will fit.

I don't think belt rats tackle, or do they?

The bolded part is where we disagree then; I see this ship as having a much more meaningful impact than you seem to suppose.



So you're in favor of making plex farmers even more uncatchable and unkillable, and letting them operate at virtually no risk in return for high rewards?

FW farmers have a large effect on system control, but they have no skin in the game. They are not in FW to fight for one side or the other, they just go where the ISK is. FW was supposed to be about using PvE mechanics to encourage PvP encounters. Instead, FW farmers exploit the PvE mechanics to make ISK while avoiding the PvP risk, but they still alter the system status, arguably even more than any of the FW PvPers.

I wouldn't have an issue with all of this if it were possible for the FW PvPers to actually engage the farmers with a reasonable amount of effort. As it is now, it is possible to catch the farmers, but very difficult to do so, and the farmers operate at very low risk. Running in a Prospect instead of a Venture will further reduce that risk the farmers face by making it even easier for them to avoid PvP, all the while taking advantage of a system that is supposed to promote PvP.

The Prospect undermines the fundamental principle of risk vs. reward as it exists in FW. This balance is already skewed, and it most certainly did not need an even further nudge towards low risk/high reward activities.

The bolded part is where we disagree then; I see this ship as having a much more meaningful impact than you seem to suppose.

Personally, I hope this new ship gets used by every plexer and eventually the neuts that thrive on FW kills will get bored and go elsewhere.
Then and only then might FW become about FW and not neutrals killboard stats and plexing for isk.

2 Militias facing off to fight for a system would be worth being involved in.

okay. but i still feel it's better to ask for plexing fixes than ask for a mining ship of all things to be balanced around plexing meta

we have a whole new set of csms to write angry letters at

Still considering if the drones makes a difference... it can tank nullsec belt rats,

you NEED to import

What they're trying to change is make Null slightly less reliant on high-sec through several means

Just as Highsec needs to import all those hi end minerals that are impossible to get in 0.5+

To what end? So far, no region of space is independent, all require moving of goods and trade. What good thing can come from singling out null as sole self-sufficient region?

consider making the Prospect being able to actually hoover gas in 0.0 without blowing up all the time.

Alright Guy's and Gal's

I did a little working it out if I figured this right you should be able to fit it this way

High

Miner II x2
Covert Op Cloak

Mid
Invulnerable II
Medium Shield Extender II
Afterburner

Low
DC II
Mining Upgrade II x3

Rigs
EM Shield
Thermal Shield

That will burn a lot of Ore

I love this ship, but it's nothing more than a pvp lolship.... I can already see whole fleets of BNI-RvB pilots using it.

But for ninja mining in null? It's just harder and harder to understand the devs.. I really wanna see Fozzie coming down from Polaris and making a demo on how to ninja mine with a Prospect in any random null sec on TQ. I'm sure that after a couple of hours he will not laugh anymore as he is used to do when he have.. ideas. Run down to a null sec system, fill the ore bay.. then what? Sell the ore to local, run back in hi sec to refine it, how exactly he imagined this will work and will be more lucrative than mining in a barge or exhumer in a secure space? Why should any sane and sober miner use the Prospect?

But again, the ship is fun .. it will be the best pvp lolship evah!